Democrats still scrambling for hope

Democrats still scrambling for hope

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>hurr durr we've already made our decision and this trial won't change it. Ofc we're being partial.


don't need preparation for an empty plate.

you've obviously never been in the courtroom with a prepared lawyer with evidence in your defense

As an independent, The blues are being stupid.

If they pick Biden, then Trump is going to win a second term. They need someone to sway people to their side, and Biden brings even less to the table than Hillary did.

If they pick Sanders I could see that drawing the voters the Dems need away from Trump to win, but with Biden I don't see that happening.

Personally I don't really like either side, but it's sad and amusing to watch them shoot themselves in the foot over and over. It takes real incompetence to lose to Trump once, much less twice.

No because I'm not a fucking criminal you piece of trash.

Can't believe you mutts really are that stupid ...

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Wow, your dad must be proud

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Bolton is getting a subpoena, McConnel doesn't have the votes to stop it. Keep seething.

Let me explain a few things
1.dem dont want witnesses
They pretend like they do but right now 3 of their nominees are stuck in washington and they DO NOT want biden to get this nomination. He would be killed on a stage with trump
2. 70 something percent of americans want witnesses is true but 35 or so percent want biden Schiff and the wistleblower ... Not what the dems want. And they will never agree to one for one. If they did this entire election goes up in flames
3. This whole thing has been a sham. The dems expected the muller report to be the impeachment start last year and this is all thwy could drum up on short notice .
4. This is all to give the dems a "we tried" speech to their base for november elections

This whole thing is over and trump will get his second term. Get over it

lol i'm a social worker. had an attorney general represent the state/my cases in court. his side of the table always looked cluttered af, but he never "lost" in court (unlike the parental defense)

imagine being a demofag in 2020

Ok......

just because your side of the table is neat doesn't mean you know what tf you're doing

They want witnesses but itll open the door for Republicans to also choose witnesses like Hunter Biden. It won't be like the one sided sham in the House where only democrats were allowed to call witnesses with no cross examination allowed.

The difference is having mountains of evidence of Trump's guilt, versus some vague criticisms about how the Cheeto-in-Chief can literally do no wrong.

>mountains of evidence
>needs witnesses to prove case
Pick one libtard

Democrats shouldn't be afraid to offer up the Bidens if they've got nothing to hide. On the other hand, Russia has led Burisma, so if the Bidens genuinely did do something shady, they should know it is going to come out.

But Republicans literally also called witnesses.

Yeah it looks more like they have no ideas and therefore less paper.

They shouldn't be afraid to offer up the Bidens even if they DO have something to hide. This isn't a battle. It's not Republicans vs. Democrats. It's about justice and law. If the Biden's did something wrong too, then fuck them.

Just admit that no matter what the democrats do to try and defend our democracy, you'll instantly discredit it.

No matter what. There's nothing that can be done. You're a drone for the GOP.

Ya'll subscribe to literally every last logical fallacy.

Moving goalposts seems to be popular at the moment.

>full partisan impeachment
>This isn't a battle
Please

Nice dodge there faggot
Is there a mountain of evidence or do they need witnesses to prove the case?

.... Dont worry ill wait

Actually they don't. The charge was that Trump put pressure on a foreign government to investigate a political rival and his son using funds that the president had no right to hold up. In fact the hold on that money was found to be illegal. This was denied by Republicans until Bolton came out saying yeah it did. Now the presidents Lawyers are arguing that Trump did in fact do it but that it does not rise to the level of a crime and that the president should not be removed from office for doing so. These are just the facts as they are now. No conjecture. Please explain how that is ok in any way shape or form.

Part of the evidence is witness testimony, no?

Why is it one or the other? When did that become a thing?

The walls are closing in.

They aren't going to pick Sanders, because both sides have their dicks in Wall Street and commies are bad for business.

Bolton said trump WANTED TO tie it... Now lets assume thats true
He can want the moon... Doesnt mean he got it.
Facts are facts... You cant hold the money over Ukraine's head when they dont even know about it which everyone agrees they had no clue.

Thats like me saying i need you to do me a favor... And me not telling you i have a vid of you sucking cock... What do you care? You dont. Id have to tell you "hey i got these vids and you need to do me a favor"

He dodges left.... He dodges right.... He still wont answer...

But my wife!

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thats what happens when one side decides to actually consider the evidence, while the other side has made up their minds already

both sides are terrible. stay home. dont vote. mother russia appreciates your support

Because if you have a mountain of evidence you dont need a first hand witness

If you are found in an alley covered in blood holding a bloody knife with a tape of you saying you are gonna kill someone and that person happens to be in the building who's ally you are in you dont need an eye witness of you stabbing the victim

lol trump paid 150,000 dollars to cheat on her while she was pregnant

clown world

Ok. So what you're saying is that Trump wanted to put the aid on hold to pressure a foreign leader. And that he did put a hold on that money, but because he didn't tell the foreign leader explicitly in a phone call that he was putting the aid on hold that it wasn't wrong? And all the lying and stonewalling is because he is just so incensed by being investigated, despite his own admission that he would have explicitly carried out the crime if it wasn't a crime?

NO. YOURE WRONG

THERES NO QUID PRO QU....*gets updates*

OK, EVEN IF HE DID DO IT, YOU CAN ARREST A SITTING PRESIDENT CAUSE OF REASONS.

ALSO, THE DEMOCRATS ARE THE ONES USHERING AUTHORITARIANISM AND WANT TO DESTROY THE LAWS.

you described exactly what the dems did in the house as well

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>I'm an independent

Thanks retard. You're just a wasted vote.

>Russia has led Burisma
Russia hacked Burisma
Fuckin autocorrect

>get over it

You first.

Isn't the Trump administration hiding all the hard evidence?

Not complying with subpoenas, refusing to cooperate with the investigations, obstructing the efforts of the other branches, etc.

Sondland himself wanted to provide a more accurate testimony during the House impeachment forum, but said all his emails and content were being held from him.

Both sides are the same. It's rich folks telling poor folks the reasons we should be fighting each other.

He didnt tell anyone. Thats the point. Thats like walking into a bank and just saying please give me some money... You will be laughed at and escorted out. But walk into a bank and say you have a gun and shit changes real quick

Without the threat its just asking a favor. Which he as a private citizen (which he is ) is allowed to do. Hell the whole mueller report was based on made up intelligence fed to the dnc from a foreign source.

So yeah if ukraine never knew about the cash then there could be no exchange... Both parties have to understand the "this for that'

y'all are fuckin fags on both sides thinking youre smart or have any idea what is going on. none of this matters. you have no say in what happens ever. just shut the fuck up, eat your cheerios, and go to bed

Evidence of what? Ukraine never even knew the mo ey was on hold so they couldn't have known that trump wanted an investigation in exchange for the money. How is this so hard to understand?

Are you seriously telling me Ukraine had no idea they were to receive the 400m in aid?

Like it was going to be a surprise gift?

kek

But he nailed 4 out of 6 of those, you liberal faggot wagecuck shill.

kek - stupid poorfag

Trump helped millions move from middle class to upper class.

He literally won the trade war.

Anything else don't count.

The defense argument keeps evolving with each breakthrough/revelation.

Moving goalposts fallacy.

We can't convince you of anything. Ya'll are fucking nuts.

>helped millions move from middle class to upperclass

who? i sure don't know any of them

No they didnt .they admitted that. They didnt know until the article was published and when it was and they found out they started making calls within the hour. Like as soon as they knew and that was a month after the call. Have you not listened to the testimony?

Sanders doesn't have enough support in his own party

it doesn't even evolve. it straight up changes

legit trump is old news. Everyone is tired of discussing anything to do with him. Unless, you're on twitter or pol. The impeachment is going nowhere and we knew it never would. Stop talking about these faggots.

The only one moving the posts is schiff

He said he had everything he needed for the trial . overwhelming evidence.... Now he needs more witnesses... The defense only defends against the accusations. If those accusations change so does the defense

Thats part of the innocent until proven guilty thing we have

that's literally not how legal arguments work

Seems like we all should just agree to disagree since absolutely no one is going to change the mindset.

Arguments like this is the equivalent of whipping our your cock and repeatedly pissing into the wind and expecting a different result.

Only two woke mother fuckers in this thread.

/thread

Yes it is... If im accused of slapping my wife and at the trial im accused of murder my defense will change

Shes legitimately not that hot plus she was a prostitute.
We live in a world where our president is married to a former prostitute.

Let that shit sink in.

Just imagine we had Snoop Dog as our Democratic president and he did what Trump did.

There shouldn’t be any scrambling.

That would two separate trials you fucking moron. You dont go to trial for one crime and the trial "changes". Literal smooth brain who has never been to court. Sit down, do as your told, and stop giving your shitty opinions.

The right can't meme.

I swear if a video comes out tomorrow of Trump running around the White House lawn in the nude while chasing a little boy his cult will find ways to say it's a good thing.

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that's not how the legal system works. charges don't just 'change' midtrial. If the charges against you changed, the trial would be dismissed.

You might get charged with assault AND attempted murder, but you wouldn't go to trial being charged with assault and have it changed to murder.

It's almost like the media was regarding obama, eh?

This is the only outcome of a party system

>something
>the literal same thing
>hurr pike wun

Exactly. So your defense would change.

right, but the defense doesn't change before the accusation, which has been what's happening

was,*

>Evidence of what? Ukraine never even knew the mo ey was on hold so they couldn't have known that trump wanted an investigation in exchange for the money.

An attempted crime is still a crime, even if the victim didn't know about it. Trump can be both guilty of the offense and completely incompetent at the same time. In fact, it's the only thing he's good at.

The right wing media was ready to crucify Obama because he held a cup during a parade and liked a dijon mustard.

We deserve a better class of politician though. I'm not saying that's easier or simple to fix. Just stating the obvious.

You dont get accused of crime AT the trial for another crime. You literal fucking retard.

Imagine being this much of a retard. Trials have both witnesses and evidence. Can you even imagine a court case where the prosecution would say, "Nah, just skip the eyewitness testimony. We've got more than enough evidence." Of course you'd have to be this brain dead to have voted for Trump.

>Obama does good
Oh, he's so good!

>Trump does bad
Oh, he so good!

>this retard
It's the same thing.

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I disagree. They have changed the accusation . first it was quid then it was bribery now its abuse. And during the houses opening remarks they threw all those out there and hope they stick

Fox and Limbaugh. That's some viewers but the other diehard libs have a stranglehold on mostly everything else.

Remember his scandals. Like the tan suit.

Prepared as in prepared to vote the way they decided months ago without caring about any information or arguments? Yeah, sounds prepared.

Keep feeding the two party system you mindless idiot

>first it was quid then it was bribery now its abuse

Wrong, dumb red hat. It was always ALL of those things, and still is.

Fox has one of the biggest news network into the country, quite trying to pretend like the right wing is oh so oppressed because the left wing has more channels. Unless you want some kind of a forced parity rather than let the market decide like affirmative action for journalists?

>first it was quid pro quo
>then it was bribery, which is a form of quid pro quo

This is why the right isn't taken seriously.

Is walking into a bank and asking for money a robbery? No its a joke.
You have to have the threat to make it a crime.
They didnt know about the money so there was no threat. It was just an old man asking for a favor.

Thats not a crime or an attempted crime

Obama did a lot of bad shit but they knew they couldn't say shit because Bush did the same things and they couldn't stop sucking him off during that time.

>As an independent,
Nah, Vlad.

This is a shill using standard shill post layout

>Fox has one of the biggest news network
>biggest news network
>news
Kek

Just because some dipshit tries to break into the bank through the vents and is too stupid to get past the first one and the bank doesn't notice the next day does not mean a crime didn't happen.

/thread

Bush fumbled his words from time to time, but that's about it. He didn't handle the war very well, but none of you faggots would fare any better if hit unprepared with the biggest terrorist attack in the history. On top of his verbal fumbles, he passed a bunch of relief laws that ended up helping people as well as pushed tax benefits and bonuses to help people that were worst off.
Meanwhile trump used his presidency to sign as many government contracts to himself as possible so that he can dip on YOUR tax money.
Suck a dick. Bush may have been a retard but he was a lovable retard. Trump is just a retard.

Ever told a lie, even a small one? It needs a lot of organisation, documentation, obfuscation and persistence to even appear credible.

This shows which side is full of shit.

>It was just an old man asking for a favor.

GOP called and asked you to stop moving the goal posts too soon. They haven't admitted it was a favor yet.

But that's exactly what they did in the house. Thats why they didnt take the subpeona to the courts. They recalled them.
Thats on schiff not trump

>hurr durr we've already made our decision and this trial won't change it. Ofc we're being partial
its almost as if this is how we got to impeachment in the first place. There were far more dems for the first vote than republicans. Of course they teamed up. Now you salty little shits cant stand when the same fucking thing is done to you.

eat shit faggot

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>ITT: Trumpsters can't remember which version of the denial script is currently in play.

Really? Where are those articles?

Sounds like calling someone a murderer at an assault trial

the only accusations have been abuse of power and obstruction of congress. both have been backed by strong claims and evidence. nothing has changed since day one except the defense

Because what Trump did was apparent from the start. The investigations did nothing but keep peeling back layer after layer of wrongdoing. If the Dems had found that Trump had placed a hold on the aid money because he had intel that it was going to be misappropriated by corrupt Ukranian autocrats, then it would have stopped there and there would have been no impeachment. But that's not what happened now, is it?

>Sounds like calling someone a murderer at an assault trial

Which you would do, if the assault also resulted in murder. Dumbass.

He didnt try to break into the bank vault.

He asked if he could go in.

Bush was and is a war criminal in addition to being dumb as a brick.

But at least he understood how to at least pretend to be a politician. He lied to his voter base about what he could do for them, but he attempted to follow through at least. Trump lies, gets caught lying, takes no action on part of Middle America knows he doesn't have to because everyone in the flyover states is going to suck him off regardless just to STICK IT TO THE LIBS.

Take your false equivalence and fuck off. The Dems are far from perfect, but the Trumptard party is a cesspool of corruption.

Yes they have.. Its in the memo of the call
He ask for a favor

No threat not tieing money to it. Just asking a favor . again they didnt even know the money was on hold for over a month

>He asked if he could go in.
while holding bank manager's daughter hostage.

But no crime here, folks. Fucking red hat retards.

Little everyone know that this kind of attention Trump want.

>Is walking into a bank and asking for money a robbery? No its a joke.
Welcome to the ranks of everyone else with more than two brain cells to rub together that think Trump is a joke. Still corrupt, though.
>You have to have the threat to make it a crime.
Trump deliberately withheld aid from Ukraine for the exchange of Ukraine announcing an investigation into Hunter and Joe Biden. That's the threat.
>They didnt know about the money so there was no threat.
That's false. They did know: washingtonpost.com/politics/2019/12/03/ukraine-knew-aid-was-stopped-ukraine-knew-what-it-was-expected-do/
>Thats not a crime or an attempted crime
Withholding the aid without notifying Congress is a crime. It's a direct violation under the impoundment control act of 1974.

You'd think if they were innocent, they'd gladly want to present all of their evidence that proves it so.

Wtf is a strong accusation? And if there is evidence then there is no need for witnesses

"Yeah, I bought a ski mask and a gun and walked into a bank, but they didn't KNOW I was going to try to steal from them"

Incompetently committed crimes are STILL crimes.

Stop defending Trump solely on the basis than his scheme failed. You sound so fucking stupid.

the evidence in the abuse of power is the documented conversation for ukraine to investigate the bidens in exchange for military aid

the evidence for obstruction of congress is the bullshittery that ensued after the whistle blower made the report/during the investigation

Except that Ukraine did know that the military aid money was on hold. How hard is it to understand that you are just buying a Russian counterintelligence talking point?

But if the manager had no clue the daughter was being held then its still just a favor...See the manager would have to know the daughter was even missing for it to be anything other than a favor especially if the daughter was kidnapped for a different reason (like giving a corrupt country deadly weapons. You might just want to make sure those weapons wernt going to be used against you in the future)

Documents and witnesses were both blocked in the house by the same people who are trying to block them in the senate. Does that sound like a fair trial to you?

... Dont worry ill wait

Can you seriously be this retarded? Or are you just a paid Russian shill? Please tell us which of these he has actually followed through on?

>And if there is evidence then there is no need for witnesses
You clearly have no idea how law works. You want to make an airtight case then you should have both evidence and witnesses. But the fact of the matter is that the White House isn't providing the necessary evidence to Congress when they are requesting it, and they are stifling witnesses from appearing before them. Hence the whole "Obstruction of Congress" charge in the impeachment articles.

>But if the manager had no clue the daughter was being held then its still just a favor.

Um what about the kidnapping, fucktard?

Stop derailing about what Ukraine knew. It's not an element of the charge, so it's completely irrelevant.

Trump was impeached because of HIS conduct, not what Ukraine knew or didn't know about his conduct.

A poorly executed attempt to do something wrong is still an attempt to do something wrong.

Either way Ukraine did know about the hold and were requesting information about it fairly early on.

>Wopo
Fact is when ukraine found out at the end of sept they started making calls. Nothing the lib media spins can stop that fact.

Listen i understand you hate trump but that doesnt mean you get to make shit up

When ukraine found out the started making calls...and that was when the article came out. Its ok your tds will be cured in november.... Of 2024

He would find a way to blame it on Hillary.

To many libtards to reply to individually so ill just say you are all morons

Trump didnt do what he is accused of. Period.

See you in 2024 for more of your retarded shit and get ready because if there is ever another dem pres he will be removed from office in his first year

And good luck with your tds

Don't forget about the flag pin, and the tan suit!

>THE DEEP STATE MIND CONTROLLED ME TO MOLEST THAT BOY!
I could honestly see him doing this at one point.

If you read the article, you'd know that Ukraine knew as early as July. You have no argument.

Bull
Fucking
Shit.
The Democraps made it their mission from the moment President Trump won the election to find something to impeach him for. This wasn't a case of a high crime or misdemeanor, but rather a desperate bid to tarnish his perfect name. I can't wait to see the crimson tsunami they've unleashed in November. Trump wins again, House and Senate go deep red, and we get two more justices. You retarded libcucks can go die. Save yourself the trouble, just get it out of the way now.

>I don't actually have any points to make that don't make me sound like a drooling moron, so i'm just going to broadly accuse libs of being retarded so I don't have to actually defend my points

>I'm too much of a pussy to give a reply of real substance so I will act tough
btw, how many dem politicans/lackeys have gone behind bars compared to republican ones ever since your emperor was elected?

Keep dreaming, user. You now own the shitstain that is Trump.

Damn. Fucking. Straight.

This is why the founders didn't want a party system...especially a TWO party system because all the wealthy would have to do is buy both parties and have them fight against each other to make the people think they have a choice and matter.

Meanwhile, the wealthy win either way...but in different ways. It's why the red south sucks (massive poverty, abandon homes everywhere, racism, etc). It's why the blue west sucks like California (massive inequality, gentrification, has ton of laws against starting a business despite massive pollution problems). San Francisco has enough empty homes to house ALL the homeless...three times over. No joke. Shit like this doesn't happen by accident. It's by design.

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Not a nigger, unlike the wannabe king we had last time.

But that's not what is happening here is it, you brain dead goat fucking mongoloid? Bolton is only going to confirm everything that has already been stated by multiple witnesses.

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>implying an illegal immigrant can be president
>also implying donald trump is a lady

Correct, Obama is not a nigger unlike Bush.

>implying an illegal immigrant can be president
Why not? We had one for eight years, and the left loved it.

Did the artist use the Mr. and Mrs. Smith movie poster for their poses?

Kid yourself even more. Trump is the dumbest nigger alive, and he isn't even black.

Ive been proving you tards wrong this whole thread

Doesnt cure you of orange man bad

I think Rachel is on ... So yeah go watch that

Still winning, faggot.

>I totally pwned you earlier and watch how cool I am by moonwalking out the door!
lol fag

>Trump impeached
>Winning
This is why the right is retarded.

>2017-2020=8
Retard.

2017-2009=8
You colossal fucking cockgobbler.

he also endorsed companies as a sitting president (against the law) and faked a weather report for a hurricane (against the law), those are just the ones i can come up with off the top of my head. neither were sought out in court

Again, meaningless. The left declared their intent to do exactly that from day 1. They set out with a verdict in search of a crime.

No, retard....Voting for colors (red, blue) or animals (elephant, donkey) is retarded. Vote for the best candidate regardless of their political affiliations and hopefully inspite of them. Being independent is the only way to go. Party loyalty is for faggots.

Whenever you think you're wasting time playing video games or watching porn...take just a second to contemplate someone actually spent a lot of time making something like this in defense of a retard who managed to somehow lose all his inherited wealth in real estate (his own daughter admitted this in an interview that Trump told her a bum had more wealth than him at one point) and his imported foreign whore.

We're not taking about people born in US states, retard.

Watch, the right will say how him lying about the pathway of a powerful storm and spreading panic in an area that was not going to be affected by it is not a big deal. Ignoring the fact that passing off false weather reports as being legitimate is a federal crime.

Kenya isn't a US state. Unless you have secret proof that President Trump was born outside the US, like Obama was.

Oh my lord we have a Birther.

the president literally committed no crime, it's legal for him to rig the 2020 election because all elections in the US are rigged
time.com/5768470/donald-trump-impeachment-trial-constitution/

salon.com/2017/05/13/the-dncs-elephant-in-the-room-dems-have-a-problem-its-not-donald-trump/

>The left declared their intent to do exactly that from day 1.
The impeachment inquiry started in late September of last year, well over two years into his presidency. The right is really fucking retarded.

He did 1,3,5, and 6

All of these lies. I cannot in good conscience ever think of enabling these men and women anymore.

that's literally what happened. point is, trump has broken several laws, but none of them were pursued in impeachment because none of them were a direct threat to the "democracy"

With how "smart" you are, I'm surprised you're not out there in front of the Senate representing Trump at his trial. At the very least, you should pass this info along to his lawyers so they can make your argument for you.

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I'm sorry that the truth hurts your retarded little brain.

Umm, what if the bank manager didn't know yet that his daughter had been kidnapped....

You're on Cred Forums, user. Trolling is a favorite pastime.

>1
we paid for the "border"wall""
>3
literally no middle class person i know benefited from "tax cuts", but it seemed like a lot of corporations did
>5
we still outsource most of our labor and get our oil from international sources
>6
a bullshit assassination was committed like two weeks ago based on flimsy pretenses with no clear strategy

I'm not talking about Cred Forums.

This has to be a troll, right? Nobody could actually be this stupid?

Oh. Well, you're living life. Trolling is still a favorite pastime.

If only the opposing party was in control of the DoJ, the Executive Branch, the Supreme Court, and the Senate. Maybe they could get to the bottom of all of this.

1) he's still building the wall
2)no one cares who you know
3)whataboutism
4)currently not at war with Iran
Cope faggot

In case you forgot, the conservatards announced they were going to impeach Hillary before she had even been elected. Had she had the electoral votes, we would have gone through this partisan horse shit based on Benghazi, the email server, and Pizzagate.

point is, trump did nothing on that list

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You sound like the house managers

Keep repeating the same shit over and over no matter how often im proven wrong and when someone says

Thats it its over ....call them a fag

Hahahaba

>1)he's still MAINTAINING the wall
>2)no one cares who you know that disproves my point
>3)I'll call whataboutism because I can't defend myself with actual facts
>4)narrowly avoiding another war in the middle is how low I set the bar

Yeah but they started the mueller report in the first year... They expected that to be the reason for the impeachment but when mueller said "yeah he didn't do anything" they had to figure something out fast... This was just the first thing they can jump on

why does this have to be so difficult

the obama/hilary liberals overthrew the elected president of ukraine and pillaged the fuck out of the place for their own party's benefit.
trump wanting an investigation of corruption is codeword for dislodging the bloodsucking fangs the democrats sunk into ukraines neck after they wrecked the place
Trump is actually trying to liberate ukraine which is why even their president was eager to help him out.

now democrats are throwing spastic tantrums because their about to lose a large chunk of their ill-gotten plunder and will likely be exposed for all kinds of corruption

fuck all this petty impeachment babble, Trump is doing the right thing

But he did tho. Lol

the mueller report started because there was leaked info that russia interfered in the 2016 election

pics or it didn't happen

The Mueller investigation was started in the DOJ, not by the democrats. How many times do I have to say this? The right is REALLY fucking retarded.

>buying into the left/right wing agenda
If you unironically believe that democrats and republicans and obama and trump and bernie and bush are anything else but heads of the hydra, you have been duped

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>Being this autistic

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user is actually correct

No there was made up evidence. The steele dossier. They wanted to link trump to russia and they planned on impeaching him for that but after 2 years they still had jack shit so they needed something ...anything...else. And this is all they had so they went with it. Its going to fail and trump will get 4 more years

Would have been better for the dems to find a real candidate and win... But dems cant win so here we are

Dems defending democracy......but we have a democratic republic

The Steele dossier did not start the Mueller investigation.

Also Mueller proved collusion.

they dont need a real candidate they need a real platform that consists of more than just free shit for everyone

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Trumpkins still sucking that Fox News cock I see.

soooo do you get all your news just by reading breitbart and fox news headlines?

So what user, probably every president has fucked bitches on the desk like JFK and RFK spitroasted Marilyn Monroe. Clinton fucked Monica in the office
Obama sucked Michelle's dick
Trump's wife got naked

Who gives a fuck

>being loyal to a party over the nation

1. Dems do want witnesses. It's not because they don't want to be on stage against Trump; in fact, they do want to debate him. Trump is just too much of a pussy to do it.
2. Give me the poll that says 35% want Biden, Schiff and the whistleblower to testify, otherwise you're just blowing shit out your ass.
3. The Senate Trial is a sham, I agree. It's a kangaroo court run by corrupt Republicans.
4. This is to show how corrupt Republicans are.
Now you get over it.

>proved collusion between trump and russia
>impeaches for abuse of power

Ffs i can't believe how stupid you are . stop watching cnn and read something

>inb4 i do read durr durr wapo huffpo

You can bitch all you want.

Collusion was proven. Don Jr. was just deemed too stupid to know he was violating the law.

Mueller proved he is senile and didn't have a clue what was in the report or who wrote it.......poor old man

>fox news
>not realizing theres been an explosion of conservative media outlets over the past decade
hello hillary

Incorrect

I wish I can get out of parking tickets by just feigning stupidity.

Hahahaha trump would kill biden just like he ruined hillary
All any polling will say is 70 something percent want witnesses... Why is that? Why dont they ask anything other than "do you want witnesses?" Because they dont want to flesh that out. Find me a poll that says they want bolton or "the boys" you wont. Thats what gives them away.
Of course you think the senate is a sham trial... You are retarded
And lastly ... Pic related faggot

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Lol what kind of independent are you. Moderantes, centrist and independents dont like socialist wannabes that live in fantasy land or people that hate themselves and are miserable nevertheless elitists which makes up 100% of the bernie cocksucking brigade. Hispanics that escaped socialism with speak greatly against him, the establisment is against him, and the DNC is going to try hard to push him away like they have been doing. Literally, voting dor Bernie is the equivalent of being a complete cuck, and asking tyrone for ass to mouth on a daily basis for morning breakfast.

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Ahh the hillary defense lol

nah the dems looks unprepared. republicans don't have any reason to scramble.

Trump is quite literally the best president since George Washington.

Correct, however this case isn't about the Bidens. If they did something egregious, they would have their own trial.
The Admin is trying to keep people in the dark about the details regarding the bidens, everyone who knows them understands why they don't need to be on trial.

>Zlochevsky, founder of a company Barisma does some shady shit.
>Burisma gest bought out in 2011, Zlochevsky is still on hook for his corruptions
>Prosecuter Shokin covers corruption and doesn't do shit.
>Obama Admin says Ukraine needs to shape up.
>Hunter Biden's firm starts to help in the rebuilding of the tarnished Burisma.
>Whole world pushes for Shokins firing since he wasn't doing shit about corrupt people, including Zlonensky
>Shokin is fired.

If anything Burisma hired Hunters firm because they wanted to insure their practices are in line with the world's expectations. I can't fathom anything shady going on in this. Worst case scenario, Hunter was helping his daddy in the cleaning up of Ukraine. All the shit Trump is saying makes no sense as Burisma was never in trouble.. it was their ex-founder. It's nonsense.

Trump single handedly destroyed the Clintons, he is about to sodomize the Bidens, and everyone else that is being implicated in the impeachment trial. But the silly dems have their heads soo far up their asses, they still havent been able to move on from that faithful night, where America picked DJT to lead our great nation.

>Why dont they ask anything other than "do you want witnesses?" Because they dont want to flesh that out.
Keep telling yourself that. The pain will set in no matter what you think when Bolton is called.
>reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-impeachment-poll/let-them-speak-most-americans-want-witnesses-in-trump-impeachment-trial-reuters-ipsos-poll-idUSKBN1ZL33O
>The poll showed that Republicans and Democrats want to see people like Bolton and Pompeo tell the Senate what they know about the administration’s policies in Ukraine.
Trump is about to get his butthole bleached from all the orange spray tan he uses and you'll be ready to lap it up to defend him in any way you can.

at least try to make it believable

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Fuck you im being sincere.

Credible**** you can atleast attempt to sound smaht

but he didn't though

you sir, need to lay off the crack

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Here btw
google.com/amp/s/amp.axios.com/trump-impeachment-trial-witnesses-poll-1a23098b-df75-4731-b6e3-0c5978f84d7b.html

Get cucked libtard

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>Trump single handedly destroyed the Clintons
Hillary still not locked up.
>he is about to sodomize the Bidens
Trump is on trial, not Hunter or Joe.
Remind me again whose head is so far up their ass?

>you can atleast attempt to sound smaht
you English needs some work Boris. Do they pay you as you learn?

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Yet they wont show the poll ... Just

"Take our word for it republicans want to hear from bolton"

See>819517953 faggot

I think we know....

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>source: the OMFGMPEACHZORRSDRUMPFNAOWW!! research center

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he done white boi pucci

Nowhere in the poll does it even suggest they want Biden, Schiff, or the whistleblower specifically. I linked an article that DOES have a poll question on Bolton and Pompeo. Where are your facts you fucking ingrate?

nobody killed themselves with 2 shots to the back of the head

A Russian expert academic tells the house that Russia is actively involved in dividing America.
That if the don't reign in the WH, get on side with each other, stand against Russian "active measures", then American will lose to Russia.

What does America do?
Plays right into Russia's hands. How stupid can America be.
You guys get what you deserve.
They have done the analysis, worked out how America works, found their fracture points and broke America apart.

So long America. You could have stopped this. Even your intelligence people said it was coming. But you have got yourself into the mind trap that nothing is real, that I only know the truth and that authority is always hiding the truth about vaccines, aliens and foreign threats are not real.
The greatest example of a people who ruled the world but gave it away because they were stupid.

next thing youll be saying is jews run the world

wsj.com/articles/3m-to-cut-1-500-jobs-posts-lower-profit-11580214061

bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2020-01-27/trump-china-tariffs-are-hurting-u-s-manufacturing

marketwatch.com/story/us-manufacturing-pmi-at-3-month-low-in-january-2020-01-24

lemme know when you've read those and I'll find you some farm links.

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Well the majority is certainly not asking for Biden. You can dance around the issue all you want, the fact of the matter is a majority of people know Trump is hiding something and they want to know what.

>How stupid can America be.

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all that matters is my team vs your team

No your article says "believe us .. All 75% want what us libtards want"

Mine at least admits the Republicans polled probably want biden

This is why no one takes you libcucks seriously... You just refuse to live in reality
Now go chop off your dick and try to make people call you by your chosen pronouns

cool it with the antisemitism

Schulchan Aruch, Choszen Hamiszpat 156

If it can be proven that someone has given the money of Israelites to the Goyim, a way must be found after prudent consideration to wipe him off the face of the earth.

>wsj.com/articles/3m-to-cut-1-500-jobs-posts-lower-profit-11580214061
one company...

>bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2020-01-27/trump-china-tariffs-are-hurting-u-s-manufacturing
opinion

>bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2020-01-27/trump-china-tariffs-are-hurting-u-s-manufacturing
pmi for one month

didnt even have to open the links

Never have I ever had such a distaste for considering the evolution of politics in today's developing society. And yet, the reality really sinks in when you watch some apostle of "truth isn't truth" glibly explain to you that you did not see what you saw. In the flesh. Where I could look them dead in the eye with unwavering conviction. What a world we live in. Now I can watch sponsored garbage filter get aggressively peddled left and right, in the real and online. All this blatant, aggressive marketing. It's like watching a living, connected entity of obfuscation meander around in the corner of the room. A big, dumb idiot bulb, emanating waves of pure distilled stupefy.

So many people are willing and eager to go up to the mat and prostrate themselves, for this. All of them. What is America worth anymore? There's no truth. There's no justice. There's nothing there to save, nothing to recover. This rot. This pervasive decay. This sickening purification of the fibers that once held together the thin veneer of Old Glory. The illusion of a greater good. That's all that's left.

more like every president from about 40 years after the founding of the republic. only now do the openly shake the hands on camera of our enemies, aka their friends.

The poll mentions NOTHING of Biden as a witness. The poll posting by Axios just gives an opinion that perhaps some Republicans would like Biden to be a witness, but makes no reference.

I'd love to see a humble self made man like Bloomberg run things.

This is incorrect. Maybe the majority of people who think trump should be impeached think that... But thats all dems... So of course they want their witnesses.
But
If you just ask people "do you want witnesses " then you can skew the answer . especially when they dont follow up with "what witnesses would you like to see?" Because the media cant spin that.

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Because they wont ask "what witnesses would you like to see?" Because that cant be spun by the media. Thats why none ask that question. At least axion will admit repubs probably want the bidens

What is Biden's stance on Andy's logs?

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>didnt even have to open the links
Of course, and that there is the problem today.
"I do not want to be exposed to anything that could cause me thing ("My Brian Hurts") or could face you with the fact that you are wrong and to choose to correct your ways.

People around Trump tried hard to convince him that tariffs were bad but he would not listen. They told him the only people it would hurts would be Americans.
But Trump has for decades been convinced about China and could not be shifted. Now he has the power.

Like grandpa who is convinced that the paper boy is sneaking into his bed and peeing on him.

And the democrats were partial in the impeachment? Fucking retard. Both sides are cocksucking dicks who'd shoot their own mother if it aligned with their party

Im sure he loves them. With the amount of shit he spews its only logical he likes to swallow it too

All this because the locker room tape.

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All this because Donnie didn't get enough hugs

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fuck china. i wish hed put 99% tariffs on those fucking commies. why were trading at all with a literal slave state is beyond me

people want cheap shit and china literally owns much of the us

Explain how you believe democrats haven't been partial. I would have a hard time believing anything you say would rise to the level of Mitch McConnell blocking witnesses for the trial.

How could anyone love a human being like donnie? He was unloveable from birth. One of the very few incidences where Im perfectly okay with abortion.

look mommy, i made a meme!

Are you so ignorant of how the economy works that you would hurt so many US businesses, families etc just so you can fuck with China? Do you, like Donnie, have no fucking idea how tariffs work?


You are a cunt of the first order.

topkek, you are a true fucking retard. None of what you said is even remotely close to vaguely true. Keep licking that boot, cuck. Maybe if you make it shiny enough, he'll give you a peck on the forehead.

>justifies slave labor to spite trump
you liberals never cease to amaze me

Fpbp

lololol
>obv non-lib thinks the right don't rejoice in cheap labor
>mfw user needs to read history
Sure

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underrated post

theres a difference between conservatives and corporate republicans. ive always been for higher wages, but with natural growth by cutting taxes and regulations, keeping hordes of illegal immigrants out and of course, heavy tariffs on nations utilizing slave labor

Should go read the patriot act. Bidens name is all over it

Trying to make up shit to over turn a elected official you dont like is a attack on democracy

What exactly are they impeaching him for? Oh that's right, things that don't even exist in the constitution. Fucking retard

"defend our democracy"

You're legitimately fucking retarded, little faggot.

>natural growth by cutting taxes
Have you looked at the past history? Tax cuts are not what they are cracked up to be and MOST so when only for the rich.
The rich have what they want. Their tax cuts go into the like of the stick market (which btw are balanced companies full of so much free credit that/Fed money) that it is on the brink.
But the middle and lower classes spend tax cuts.
>regulations
Yeah when America (since FDR ) had them the markets worked well - when they were axed the markets eventually crashed. America (and the world!) paid for that fuckery.
>heavy tariffs on nations utilizing slave labor
Depends on how you do it. You don't fix that by moving your own people to a low wage economy were people are just reserve labour unit to be absorbed and discarded according to the whims of Joe Ceo and his bonus prospects.

Just want to note, since minimum wage climbed to $15/hr here my life has gotten significantly worse because service at all stores and food establishments went to absolute shit. There are no workers.

oh yea mean like schiff not letting Republicans call witnesses or letting trump have a defense in the house? Or having secret depositions? or maybe lying that he dosnt know who the whistle blower is? your a fucking mongaloid who needs to be put down

Hurr durr dems have been screaming impeachment since 2016 before he was even elected.

>My life is worse because there aren't people degrading themselves for poverty wages for my direct benefit.

Cry more.

youd rather have a war mongering, nigger loving, rape defending witch. Shut your cunt mouth and let the adults talk

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U dumb cunt

Yeah. When he failed to disclose his tax returns, failed to resolve his conflicts of interest, and appointed his family members to high offices. He SHOULD have been impeached then. We just had to wait until now so that Nancy Pelosi could use the timing to try and fuck with Bernie Sanders' campaign. That's what this is really about. Trump has committed just a ridiculous shitstorm of crimes, but it's only worth their time to impeach him now when they have a chance to throw another election for their billionaire donors.

So, is the DNC's strategy to just ad hominem everyone who isn't for Biden?

p-much. They're going to sabotage Bernie again because they'd rather lose the general election than have to make actual substantive progress.

nationalreview.com/2018/06/us-mexico-border-wall-being-built-slowly/#slide-1

soleimani was a scum fuck who killed hundreds of Americans and thousands of civilians. eat a hot bag of frothy cum you commie faggot. and you dont know any middle class people because your a basement dwelling troglodyte.

Not disclosing your tax returns isn't an impeachable offense. You people are so fucking stupid you should literally just be dead. World would instantly be a better place

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Might as well the drag the side of beef out of cold storage and let her "campaign" with him at this point.

Looks like Trump in 2020 again.

Just a quick reminder of Article 2 Section 2 of the constitution that states no president that's impeached (not kicked out of office, just impeached for those of you slow in the head) cannot be pardoned.

This is why Nixon QUICKLY resigned. To have Ford pardon him for his crimes. Even if Trump quit right now and had Pence take over, he's still going to jail.

Don't believe me? Well, you can Google the constitution if you doubt that part. As for the FBI going after him, he's done nothing but shit-talk them the past 3yrs. If YOU worked for the FBI and your boss did nothing but shit talk you, and now you had the opportunity to put him away, tell me you would do anything to make it happen. The FBI, DOJ....everyone...they have to be fucking foaming at the mouth waiting for him to walk out of that White House. And whether it's less than a year or 4 more...sooner or later, they'll have him.

And Republicans will be remember for decades to come that they gave total support and backing to a federal criminal. And I hate Democrats almost as much as Republicans. They're all full of shit so I take no pleasure in their gain.

But I DO hate Trumptards. When the tax cuts gave to the rich and cut around $200 per person in their return (everyone I know lost that much at least), I was GLAD to pay it just because it hurts poor Trump idiots more than me.

I admit I just skimmed it because of the speed of this board but I do not see a god damn thing in here about Mexico paying for the border wall...

Everything you said is bullshit and you're a retard.

Article 2 Section 4: The President, Vice President and all civil Officers of the United States, shall be removed from Office on Impeachment for, and Conviction of, Treason, Bribery, or other high Crimes and Misdemeanors.
Trump is accused of withholding aid from an ally in exchange for favors to help him win his reelection. If you do not think this counts as treason, bribery, or high crimes than you are a traitor to this country.

tax cuts benefit the rich the most because the rich pay the most taxes, furthermore i find no comfort in the fact that an institution thats trillions of dollars in debt and bloated with massive inefficient bureaucracies controls more of the public wealth.

and yes im all for regulations on financial insitutions, large corporations, banks, investment firms etc. you can regulate and tax them out of existence for all i care, but its small and medium businesses that suffer the most by taxes and regulations and ultimately benefits the rich. it was these fucks who had nothing else to do but toss around huge gobs of money that gave us these crashes.

what trump is doing is exactly what i want for the economy and wages are rising. its not rocket science, when so many help wanted signs are going up, businesses have to compete for labor which means higher wages, and without paco to snag up or chinese slave labor to feast one, they have to pay it or else eat shit

>omg user said something that could be proved wrong.
>I point it out
>I strike a hit for my guy
>My guy is not a fuck!
>be brb
>need to fap in bathroom before mother notices

Word of advice? They know!

This post reeks of hypocrisy and faggotry

don't forget to kill yourself

The President shall be Commander in Chief of the Army and Navy of the United States, and of the Militia of the several States, when called into the actual Service of the United States; he may require the Opinion, in writing, of the principal Officer in each of the executive Departments, upon any subject relating to the Duties of their respective Offices, and he shall have Power to Grant Reprieves and Pardons for Offenses against the United States, except in Cases of Impeachment.

He shall have Power, by and with the Advice and Consent of the Senate, to make Treaties, provided two thirds of the Senators present concur; and he shall nominate, and by and with the Advice and Consent of the Senate, shall appoint Ambassadors, other public Ministers and Consuls, Judges of the supreme Court, and all other Officers of the United States, whose Appointments are not herein otherwise provided for, and which shall be established by Law: but the Congress may by Law vest the Appointment of such inferior Officers, as they think proper, in the President alone, in the Courts of Law, or in the Heads of Departments.

Glow nigger.

It doesn't. You're a dumbass faggot

Also dumbfuck, is ACCUSED. They have no fucking proof but went with it anyway. You suck their dick hoping rain comes out huh?

Trump blocked any of his witnesses from testifying, there were no "secret depositions", and the whistle blower identity has nothing to do with the trial.
Trump blocked his witnesses because he's guilty, republicans were involved in every meeting but pretended to be oppressed for retards like you to eat up, and you lot just want the whistle blowers identity because you want to either intimidate or kill him because how dare he bring a crime to light.

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The spawn of a very stable genius

retard

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He has admitted it multiple times. Including on live television.

btfo to single word meme response

no you're just an actual retard
you bought the us vs them mentality hook line and sinker because you're a useful retard

i would tell you to kill yourself but you lack the self-inflection necessary to understand why it is your best course of action

Such drunken shit

>attacking the person instead of the argument
sad

trump isnt playing along with their silly games because it would lend this utter shitshow credibility.
in case you didnt know, most americans think this whole ordeal is just a leftist temper tantrum, even apolitical people are sick of hearing about this retarded shit and dont even know why the fuck its even happening.

but keeping making yourselves look like a bunch of crybabies, youre making the word democrat synonymous with the word egh

there is no argument to attack
it's understandable that you might believe you had one though given your mental impairments.

Not user - but are you fucking serious?
Ofc not. You just want to troll because in you own life you feel powerless.
>sad
Yeah, you are

>you're just an actual retard

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>this desperate for (You)s

Here you go champ!

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kind of like how you just make shit up? The ends justify the means right champ?

I forget, it's okay to be a hypocrite when it's you or "your side" doing it you absolute dullard

deep analysis lol faggot

Wow.
So many people in Murrica feel that their life sucks that they have to resort to this.
What happened?

thanks for letting me know i struck a nerve

mission accomplished
let's pack it up boys

R E N T F R E E

In every poll most Americans support removal form office of the traitor in chief.

No

They don't lol
Imagine going through life this delusionally, this self-righteously

>Actually I won and you are mad so I'm leaving
so desperate

yeah they support it so much they're going to vote him in again kek

No I mean you literally just acknowledged that you were steaming mad

Don't try to back out now champ

I just want to take a moment to thank you and your friends at the GRU/FSB for your spectacular work at fucking up America.

We wanted it but you guys did.

lol faggot this is not an argument
you should kill yourself for thinking this mass of logical fallacy qualifies as a valid debate point

most polls are not designed to monitor public opinion, theyre designed to influence it

You're clearly unaware that they knew they wouldn't get Trump out of office. They knew the Republicans wouldn't dare vote against glorious leader. Its hardly a fair system given that the verdict is handed by a partial house. And with supreme court judges partial to whichever party gave them their cushy job, neither would the courts provide a fair verdict.
I don't think he's abused his position enough to warrant being removed from office, but he certainly deserved to be impeached and held accountable for the dodgy shit he pulled with Ukraine. It's good he's not gone unchallenged on this, but anyone who's convinced its going to work is being an idiot, and anyone else who thinks he dindoonuffin is just as much.

the only dodgy shit that happened in ukraine was the democrat rape and pillage that took place under the obama regime.

trump is trying to liberate ukraine

whatever it takes to deny evidence

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lot of crazy sad people out there...

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Of fuck, you know it's bad when even fox news have to admit it.

>not an argument
wot
Are you just following the trends of posts you see?
You post shit you see to make you feel good even though you don't know what it means or how it should be applied?
>omg newfags

Fox news polling is usually pretty good in actuality. They changed polling firms recently.
- a leftist