Give one good reason why not to vote for Bernie-chan in the 2020 primaries

Because you niggers keep spamming propaganda I will vote Trump

>kike
>commie
>will flood the country with "climate migrants"
>will take the guns
>enable criminals and drug addicts
>will massively increase taxation
> "war on whites"

Bernie chan is the only dem who can beat Trump, and the fact that the majority of the political elite hate him is even more reason to support him

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Feel the bern

(literally feel him and accept bernie chan inside your heart)

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Bernie Sanders is a disgusting man, but also an embarrassing one. A man whose views and behavior are so out of touch with the American mainstream that his passionate supporters think he is the best option for doing something about it. It's telling that the Republican Party rallies around Donald Trump while Bernie Sanders rallies against them.

No, Bernie Sanders can't save our country from itself. No, he can't get us out of our increasingly deep debt. No, he can't save Obamacare, or raise the minimum wage, or pass a genuine Medicare for All. But if he wanted to, he could. And even more importantly, I hope he didn't miss the irony that his 'call to action' order comes a week after NBC's last outing of a #Snowden story that could conceivably lead to a permanent exile for Snowden (although given the relative lack of black and white choices in our past White House we might just as easily consider Snowden's papers a collateral damage that can be more easily ignored than claimed).

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That picture is appalling. The last officially recognized act of a samurai, was killing a Japanese socialist and forever putting the notion to rest.

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Because I don't want to see him meet the same fate Seth Rich did.
When the DNC runs out of options to cheat him out of winning the nomination, I'm afraid they'll get desperate

> he is on video saying 90% is an acceptable tax rate

> wants to give illegals free health care and make tax payers pay for it

> will be dead soon

> id rather die from constipation thanks, because even then id be full of less shit than someone who says he isn't a communist.

Bernie-chan isn't a socialist, he's a Democratic Socialist fucktard.

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Incel tier posts kys.

Kys faggot nazi

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tfw socialist with three houses and a millionaire

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You can't call people faggots, comrade.

i cant tell if you are trolling or just a weeb...which is it?

when you worked within the communist machine, spend your honey-moon in the communist machine and praise the communist machine....guess what i will suspect you of being...any guesses?

No matter how many primaries Bernie wins, once the super-delegates come into play, the DNC will give the nomination to Bloomberg.

I wonder if any Bernie boys have even considered this.

> faggot nazi
proof that they have no idea what hitler did to the gays

I-I've found a new fetish...

Liberals are insufferable braindead asshats these days, they don’t think past surface

That is dehumanizing. I think we should protest.

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nice dubs, i had been avoiding the chans for 6 months now because it just got too cringe and "white male bad REEEEE" in here...but...
you're here forever... so im back.

and like usual, they flee in terror from a fact...fucking pussies.

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shuttup faggot
shut yer faggit yap "liberals this, liberals that"
choke on a black dong mongler

you misspelled "nigger"

Take note- Conservatives have never been ashamed of that name. And the opposite, the Liberal now HATES being called that. So, now they changed it to "progressive". Lulz.

Truth
Truth

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i posted a meme....the only funny thing about obama is that he is our worst president.

Free college would require everyone to pay much higher taxes to cover it. Colleges would have less of a reason to strive to be the best resulting in worse professors overall since theres less of an incentive to prosper.

we pay more for shittier teachers and worthless degrees for fags who play fortnite

already covered the 90% tax rate....i think the commies are just popping in and out every so often like a couple of Ritalin addled groundhogs with ADHD

The faggot do nothing Democrat lay about liberals from Reddit are invading the board yes. It’s sad and sucks
Lol, someone’s very mad

Because he'll die in the first year of his term

time to sage them posts i guess and sink this fucker... are there other oldfags around?
how long have you even been on Cred Forums?

so?

your idiocy knows no bounds

Because a minimum wage increase does nothing to help the working class as corporations and big business just hold it against their neck and enforce a larger work load during a shorter work period. Resulting in NO extra cost to them for the same productivity expectations.

Because a federal jobs guarantee does nothing to solve the problem of the number of jobs decreasing faster than the amount of jobs being created resulting in an economy with a surplus of workers and a drought of jobs, an increase in unemployables and Trump changing the "unemployment" window to make it look better. He is just going to spend a bunch on infrastructure and pretend that he can actually create enough jobs to give everybody a good paying job without ending up needing to build an office building to stick a bunch of people to get paid to do nothing.

Bernie is unrealistic with his medicare plan and will get no support from republicans in the general due to it, he plans do dislocate millions of workers and dismantle an entire "industry" while having no realistic plan to assist those dislocated workers in an economy already struggling.

He focuses on demonizing the rich and step on the working class in hopes of winning over the middle class, leaving NO elect-ability against Trump.

Those are three good reasons.

Dubs demands, fuck these faggot liberals

I hate eating zoo animals.

Never let evil take root. America has failed on this one precept and now only war will excoriate it.

he wants US healthcare to be like Denmark not Venezuela

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send this one to the gulag

I can give you about infinite reasons to vote for him.

Be honest. They're all free things you want, right?

>That picture is appalling. The last officially recognized act of a samurai, was killing a Japanese socialist and forever putting the notion to rest.

Gomenasai, my name is Ken-Sama.

I'm a 27 year old American Otaku (Anime fan for you gaijins). I draw Anime and Manga on my tablet, and spend my days perfecting my art and playing superior Japanese games. (Disgaea, Final Fantasy, Persona series)

I train with my Katana every day, this superior weapon can cut clean through steel because it is folded over a thousand times, and is vastly superior to any other weapon on earth. I earned my sword license two years ago, and I have been getting better every day.

I speak Japanese fluently, both Kanji and the Osaka dialect, and I write fluently as well. I know everything about Japanese history and their bushido code, which I follow 100%

When I get my Japanese visa, I am moving to Tokyo to attend a prestigious High School to learn more about their magnificent culture. I hope I can become an animator for Studio Ghibli or a game designer!

I own several kimonos, which I wear around town. I want to get used to wearing them before I move to Japan, so I can fit in easier. I bow to my elders and seniors and speak Japanese as often as I can, but rarely does anyone manage to respond.

Wish me luck in Japan!

Then he should start proposing Denmark's economic policies of lower corporate tax rates and lower regulations rather than Venezuela's oil economics but with billionaires as the crude.

Or just....proper wealth taxes

i'm Australian. but, hell, if they'll let Russians vote, why not?

OK, so I work, save, invest, and pay taxes on all I earn. Then the liberals want to tax what I've already paid tax on. Sounds fair.

He's a communist piece of shit and every bernie bro is a soy filled little baby dick who's going to get his lights punched out when the shit hits the fan. Bernmie bros are weak.

he showed he has no spine even gave money he collected last campaign to the person who stole it from him

You're a liberal. You moron. Jesus fucking christ learn what capitalism is one day.

Because he's going to win regardless of what you do, making your specific vote unnecessary.

because he thinks women want to be raped

check mate
bitch

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>40 years of trickle down failing to do anything it promised
>"libruls are short sited durrr"

He's a filthy kike and a hypocrite.
/thread

>This thing is working but I'm saying it's not for some reason
>Therefore we should switch our economic system over to something that has never worked

superpower

Maybe we should take out Tom Perez preemptively.

Under proper socialism, we will all be millionaires.

Odd how 50 years of Democrat social programs haven't eliminated poverty, ended racism, and made America a "workers paradise".

It couldn't be that by perpetuating those problems by making the victims slaves to the Democrat party, they can go on promising solutions in perpetuum?

naww.... that's crazy talk. Bernie 2020

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Russian Troll here. Putin just released a huge cash flow almost 20 billion. Trump will be re-elected and Biden, Sanders and Hillary Clinton will all be arrested soon after the 2021 Inauguration.

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Odd how Republicans have dismantled, crippled, or taken active measures to prevent access to said services.
>reality has a liberal bias

You mean when Trump cut 500 billion dollars from medicare?

>oh wait, that was Obama

I mean, if we're having a real discussion, he believes Communism works because by cooperating we can achieve more than competing.

This is fundamentally untrue. Do we cooperate to pick litter up off the streets? How about to keep public restrooms sparkling clean? Do we cooperate to pick toilet paper and paper towels up off the floor or wipe the ring of mold around the bowl when we use a gas station toilet?

Cooperation, while it sounds nice, has never worked. I honestly don't understand how anyone could be so dumb to actually believe what Bernie believes, but then it seems politics attracts morons by nature anyway.

>Obama's a liberal
Imagine being this Foxcucked.

Those programs exist because of pervasive institutionalized racism, user.

So you're in favor of ending those programs and welcoming Full Social Diversity?

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I can give 97 Trillion reasons why:
city-journal.org/bernie-sanders-expensive-spending-proposals

>Obama cut 500 billion dollars from medicare
no he didn't dickhead

>www.city-journal.org
what's this faggot shit?

what's this day of rest bullshit?

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Its all sourced and linked to mainstream media, government, and bernie's own sites.

>Judging a book by it's cover

Fuck you and your stupid faggot right wing blog ok?
Delete that post.

no it isn't trumpshit

fine, play ignorant partisan games, i dont give a shit, i have no horse in this race anyways.

why is the commie thread back?.....
go stand in a bread line you fucking halfwits.
remember to sage.

>ignorant partisan games
your attitude got trump elected you fucking faggot
you aren't above this
you're just as much to answer for this

>i dont give a shit
you tried to push a bunch of right wing fucking bullshit attacking Sanders on the rest of us, got caught, and now you're trying to do damage control and getting laughed at
eat shit trumpfuck

> best economy weve had in a really long time
"you aren't above this"
am i detecting some bad arguments?

You know what, i'm sick of shits like you forwarding the duopoly tha tis American politics, you all try to tar and feather anyone who isnt lockstep with you, and that goes for both sides, meanwhile the shitters in DC laugh at the BS they spew and proceed to powershare.
Both parties are bullshit parodies of politics and the "left" and "right" play right along.

Get off your hamster wheel and start thinking for yourself.

Trump is a failed Presidency
and we're still riding Obama's economy

literally put your own dick up your ass

see

It's simple logic user. You're trying to get away with the false equivalence that the Democrats are just as bad as the Republicans and do the same shit.

You literally should be made to eat shit for pushing this obvious falsehood.

Republicans are as much to blame as Democrats for not doing anything, they are literally afraid of their own shadow, and are content to powershare with Democrats.
If you can't see this, you are also deluded, and shame on you too.

Because i ain't no commie bastard.

>durr their both the same
>i didnt elect drump
>you did because durr their the same durr
you literally should be made to eat shit trumper
inb4 durr im not a trumper
yes you are trumpshit

>i dont no nuffin
Sanders isn't a communist

I'm not registered with either party because they are an absolute joke, and i refuse to vote for either major party, fuck em both.

well, im glad we both know the length of it...your mother must have informed you.

anyways, your libtard economists all said that the economy would have dipped by now, and it didnt, you can look at other presidencies as an example of economy fluctuations, your lefty economists said "impossible to sustain" and here we are, still at a record high.
the only thing obama did was drone strike the shit out of the sand people.
he has accomplished the least out of any president weve had, and had the slowest recovery from the economy fuckup that bush created that there has EVER BEEN.

also, why should i join "your team" if you treat me this way? You aren't earning any favors talking to me this way.

Because Socialism is for fags.

>I'm proud my apathy could get drump re-elected
eat shit trumpfag

Lol

Hey bud, not sure if you managed a GED yet, but facebook tier arguments about communism don't convince people anymore.

Also, over and over bernie is a democratic socialist. Like northern europe, and other more civilized countries in the world. Its basically stopping corporate welfare and giving those resources to the people. Like literally capitalism but more responsible.

>Wut is electoral college

I'm in a blue state thatrs going Dem regardless of what i do or dont do.

Now get off your damned soapbox and go bother another "Trumpshit" as you so eloquently put it.

i'm not the first guy who replied to you, but you're on a red board. buck up bucko, a couple bantz isn't gonna kill you ffs

Not that user:
>assuming alignment
Democrats can be bad while Republicans are outright evil. They're not mutually exclusive.

I asked earlier if anyone knew if Kyle Yurek was still a Bernie staffer?
Not nice to her his lies about the Gulags and Soviets treatment of undesirables when I have family who suffered from Soviet abuse.

>your libtard economists
user you literally elected and still support a President who has at least 6 bankruptcies we know of.
You have no credibility deriding other economic theories or indeed even venturing into a discussion of the subject in the first place.

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actually bernie is no kind of socialist at all, but a social democrat. no scandinavian country is socialist, and the failures of american political education don't mean we have to go around redefining words.

Both are irredeemable.
Not worth endorsing with a vote.

You're right user Bernie will go down as one of the best presidents in US history, rivaling the likes of FDR and Teddy Rossevelt.

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>user says blanket statement about group that is superficial
>user likely supports group that is physically unable to get over skin color

user probably thinks hes a real deep thinker huh

I'm a democratic national socialist

>waa somebody said something mean to me on the Internet
>I'm gonna be stupid and vote for Trump just to punish you

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> the political party that calls everyone nazis and fascists
> burn books
> take the guns away
> judging people by the color of their skin
> literally enacts political violence

you have some issues as a political party...maybe scrape some shit out of your bed before you criticize anyone else?

Yeah, because as we know, nobody ever spams Trump shit.

no trumpshit
what is "apathy?"
what are your hilarious excuses to avoid responsibility for how politically stupid and shortsighted you are?
What is "shut up?"

Bankrupted the closest casino to New York City, no less. That's a special kind of stupid.

lol, keep trying, user, you are fucking hilarious.
American Politics is ion a slow spiral down the drain, and the cold civil war will become hot because of people like you, mark my words.

>Works in DC
>Lives in Vermont
>Also has a small, 1000 square foot cabin that was inherited by him
>Remains one of the poorer members of the senate

Despite being a millionaire Bernie Sanders has proven himself against the top one percent. He rarely ever flip flops and he's been fighting for the same issues for decades. user, I don't see anything wrong with Bernie.

Thank you! I hate that he points towards us in Scandinavia but doesn't get it right a single time!

no wonder college needs to be free if people like you exist...

anyways, the money would come from the wall street speculation tax which is expected to cover the costs of college. Also, with free state college it would become much MORE selective to get in as there is a steady flow of income and students would really need to be deserving/high quality to get in.

>Democrats are burning books
ok time to put the internet away for tonite trumpie

This. Bernie bros are constantly attacking people, yet the media doesn't report on any of it. But if one liberal stages a hoax, it's wall to wall coverage.

alrighty then, just name one thing i said that was incorrect
did he work within the communist regime to further the goals of communism and leave when it collapsed?

did he go have his honeymoon in a communist country?

does he praise the workings of the communist regime and its leaders?

im sure you can answer all of these with a simple google search.

Except for one of the most important questions for the working class, immigration. He had it right before but now I hope he won't be the nominee

>durr were gonna go civil war on your ass durr
you can't even leave your mom's basement lol

Shit, I would. He would only win 14-16 states. Would be fucking hilarious

>millionaire
The vast majority of his personal wealth is tied up in the house he lives in. Who knew property values in the Northeast were absolutely bonkers?

Oh, wait, everyone in the Northeast.

I've been on Cred Forumsee since uh since 2000. And its traditionally had been a place of counterculture against the conservative establishment. So go back to Cred Forums, racism isn't cool anymore.

14-16 states that put him over the top trumpfag

socialism leads to communism

>if information is true Denmark would be one of the poorest countries in the world
>mfw Denmark is the most prosperous country in the world

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Correct except for the fact that he refused to call himself a social-democrat and his staffers call them class traitors

no it doesn't trumpshit

that looks like some assumptions, i didnt vote for trump.
i would like to point out that i didnt say anything supporting Trump, i said you were wrong...big difference.
how many multi-million dollar businesses have you run?...clearly you know so much about how bankruptcy works.
ive yet to see a single thing to denote that you do anything but push talking points.
these are not theories, the economic growth is charted, you can find it easily.

>i didnt vote for trump.
all you do is defend his policies and attack those who criticize him. Fuck you. You probably didn't vote at all, right? You fucking coward. At least take ownership of what your shit fucking tier attitude did to this country and what you're about to let happen again. Fuck you. Don't fucking reply about how durr their both bad I'd make you eat pavement you fucking twerp.

they have been....i suppose your news outlets didnt cover that one when it happened....they did indeed burn books that they disagreed with...it sounds silly because it is silly, and its why i dont describe myself as a liberal anymore, because they went nuts.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
2000? you sure?
newfag

Cite sources or GTFO. Here's some hardcore righties burning bibles:
>telegraph.co.uk/news/religion/6346662/North-Carolina-church-plans-Halloween-Bible-burning.html

>durr dumbrocrats burn books i heard about it
you were told to stop posting trumpshit

Your vote doesn't count during a presidential election, asshole.

we'll see if his plans for unionization actually amount to a shift in control of political economy. i would like it if bernie were a crypto-marxist, or the leftmost elements of his coalition end up pushing us towards that kind of reappropriation, but i'm not holding my breath for bernie's administration becoming the dotp. he will govern as a social democrat, he will probably not get the majority of his agenda through.

think again
>The leader of the 1917 Russian Bolshevik Revolution, Vladimir Lenin, once said, “The goal of socialism is communism.”

Again, you dumb Nigger. Your vote doesn't count during a presidential election.

In what? History? Or your life time?
I strongly doubt you are educated enough to know about any presidency before the ones you were alive for

Bullshit to 1. Increases in wages will result in more money in workers pockets overall. People cannot survive on single minimum wage jobs anymore because of trumps presidency where theres been huge rise in people needing multiple jobs to get by.

Bullshit 2. If you tax corporations who are hiding their profits in tax havens and skirting paying their fair share you'll have more than enough money to create federal jobs. Especially jobs needed to improve infrastructure which what FDR did in the past, AND IT WORKED YOU MORON.

Bullshit 3. His medicare plan is extremely realistic and the most detailed one thats been published yet. Your daddy trump tried to get rid of the ACA without a standby in place and was prepared to dump millions of people off in being uninsured. Anyways, bernie will likely have to take a similar stance that germany has on nationalized healthcare which has private companies contracted to distribute publically offered insurance. It works and doesn't upend a whole industry.

This whole notion of classes is false. There is a capital class, and then there is working class. Bernie wants to make sure that the capital class doesn't take everything we have while we squablle over social issues. If you knew any american history you would understand that our whole history has been a battle of working class against capital class, and that bernie would shift the fight to our corner where we have a shot for a fairer distribution of wealth.

You're terribly misinformed or a paid troll.

>Vladimir Lenin speaks total credibility to me
commie

and there are the personal attacks, because that is all you are capable of, you lack any substance...
no i did not "attack those who criticize him" i called out some bullshit, you are pushing lefty talking points that are old and disproved fairly easily, i would not have to defend the idiot if you weren't being about as tolerable as a lead dildo covered in fire-ants

>you dumb Nigger

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You retarded?
California, washington, Oregon, New York, New Jersey, Rhode island, Vermont, Delaware, Connecticut, Mass, Hawaii, Maryland, Maine, Illinois, DC. The close blue states Hillary got would flip and Trump wouldn't lose any close states he got. Would be a landslide and like I said, hilarious.

I agree with all of this but Bernie is going to die sooner than later. We don’t need someone who is about to die running the show.

I'm no commie. I'm a republican Trump voter.
Democratic socialism is socialism
Socialism is communism.
Just like the Marxist Stage theory; stage 5 is Socialism.
Fuck commies, fuck socialists, fuck Bernie

You know what man? I’m not who you are replying to but i like those ideas and I’m a conservative.
Bernie kinda reminds me of Teddy Roosevelt. Teddy was Right wing but he made a lot of great changes that we still appreciate today. National parks, Food safety, etc.
it’s still early to see, but i hope Bernie gets the nomination. It would be nice to see some changes.

>The close blue states Hillary got would flip
no they wouldn't trumpshit
>Trump wouldn't lose any close states he go
yes he would
people are tired of his shit and Sanders speaks to them, especially about health care

>durr i noze wut socialism is
shut up trumpshit

That's why it has to be Sanders/Warren

In case you can't count, that's not even 200 hahaha

missing the point, i never called anyone a nazi...i dont care if they burn books, because they never declared it was wrong to...im saying that the left was being hypocritical.
it happened around the berkly riots, i just searched "book burning liberals" and there is some talkshow host yapping about it...i hate talkshows.

He also served as the US senator for vermont probably 15 times over for the amount of time he did any of those things.

Did he turn vermont into USSR 2.0? I'll let you simmer on this one for a bit.

>I don't have an argument so I'll call you a trumptard, then I'll get confused and call you a commie, then I'll realize my fault and call you a trumptard again
Nice b8

Bernie bros make up half or less of the dems. The other half ain't showing up in November.

>hahaha
simple reminder you support a criminal mob boss presidency and the Senators who covered it up

I'm excited because to me Bernie is finally the guy whos willing to talk the talk and walk it too.

Like Teddy/FDR and others, Bernie is looking to trust bust, improve infrastructure, get us something better than social security/medicare/medicaid.

not even a little upset, just astounded that insults are what pass for an argument...its like "if i scream until they ignore me, i win!" is the goal...i dont get it...is this what you think is an argument?
SPD is a disorder that more or less made me into a robot, my emotional range is that of a coke can....i couldn't get upset if i wanted to.

You say that now, but I'm sure you'll be voting for Bloomberg in November anyways.

user you literally quoted lenin
you're a fucking commie shut up

Future taps to Warren, Yang, AOC, pretty much any progressive candidates would be better than conservatives or corporate democrats.

Then you all want to suck trump's mushroom cock in 2021. We don't.

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you'll be choking on boomturd when Sanders wins

>how dare you
kek

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i dont live in Vermont...but i can look i suppose...what do you think a senator does?....they are one of many...you could be a senator for a long long time before anything you enact gets passed.
that is a silly argument, and makes no sense.
il be charitable and assume you just made a bad example there.
but since you clearly know allot about the geezer, what DID he do over his tenure as a senator?

Can't even disavow his campaign managers/staffers saying they'll put people in gulags.

look user please we've moved on
you're in deep denial
you get vein popping mad when anyone dare criticizes your Dear Cheeto and then claim you had nothing to do with him getting elected. You're simply mad af

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Because he doesn't understand Economics 101 in the least. He's also a jew cuck.

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nice trips.
they dont get it, but they refuse to actually make any real arguments.

those programs are the institutionalized racism because they are the soft bigotry of low expectations you know nothing retard.

pre 60s blacks had lower divorce rates than whites. they had comparable marriage and out of wedlock birth rates.

after the government told them they didn't need a husband and it would pay for them breeding illegitimate children look what happened. 73% out of wedlock birth rate from 20%. weird how they incentivize shit behavior and you get more of it.

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And how does a President with 6 bankruptcies who just added 2 trillion to the National Debt as a result of giving tax cuts to the richest people understand economics, user?
Also, Sanders is anti-Israeli occupation of Palestine. You're literally a pawn in their game.

ancient
jewish
communist

So you're in favor of ending those programs by accepting Full Social Diversity, user?

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i dont even really like him all that much, and telling me that im mad isnt making me actually mad....its just....still not an argument, you lot are the ones calling names and throwing tantrums, i stopped using inflamatory language a while back, you have no support for the claims you made and instead just try to call anyone who doesnt agree with you an idiot.
i am largely A-political, i just dislike dishonesty and research allot of stuff, right now our dumb civilisation is embroiled in what equates a race war, war of ideology and a political shit-storm...so i looked into it.
one side had graphs and the other side had feelings
one side had clearly defined standards, the other side wanted to make men into women and import a 3rd world country
one side had reasonable arguments, the other side had political violence.

now tell me what im in denial about and while you are at it, please dictate my beliefs to me....oh party of tolerance.

>i dont even really like him all that much,
BUT YOU KEEP DEFENDING HIS POLICIES
AND LASHING OUT AT OTHERS CRITICIZING HIM
>I can't get mad
YES YOU CAN FAGGOT FUCK YOU
>now tell me what im in denial about
HOLY FUCKING SHIT YOU ARE DENSE:
YOU ARE AN ENABLER OF THE CURRENT SYSTEM
THINK FOR YOUR FUCKING SELF AND STOP ATTACKING PEOPLE WHO WANT TO MAKE THIS WORLD A BETTER PLACE

>i am largely A-political,
>but durr it looks like the democrats are worse than the republicans
faggot

>they can't make any real arguments.
like believing socialism=communism?

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Ah I see we have resorted to good old cherry picking, but not just cherry picking, easily fabricated "proof" cherrypicking with zero context.

What is capitalism?

I'm in favor of ending all forms of welfare, dismantling public education, and massively reducing the federal government .

I don't know what full social diversity even means because I was educated and not taught what to think like you were apparently.

it's become clear to me that voting can't solve what's wrong with the country. trump will win 2020 handily against Bernie. after that, who knows. the war is coming.

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Are we really going to go for the not real socialism argument?

It's what my daddy whupped into me when I got a little too big for my britches around the trailer park. Like his daddy before him.

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It's nothing to do with tax cuts you stupid fuck. He has the largest budget deficit in history because of high government spending. But the problems with the economy lie mostly with the federal reserve regardless, not with presidents.

> policy
point out the specific time i defended his policy, just one time i mentioned a policy i like that he has...id like to see it

> mad
how is this so hard to understand, i have an imbalance that makes me deadpan calm in situations i should have healthy emotions...its a disorder, i was calm during a car crash, i was calm when i got assaulted...i dont want to be this way, i just am.
>denial
i am beginning to think you dont understand...i do think for myself, and i have yet to attack anything, i just want you to stop being so obstructive to information, this could have been a real argument instead of the emotion explosion (good album name) that it has been...from you.

>zero argument
>indoctrinated 20-something detected

enjoy your gender studies degree and 100k debt

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A miserable little pile of secrets. But enough talk. Have at you!

I personally can't wait for the war. I can't wait to dig ticks like you out my country. It's gonna be so fun. Pull the fucking trigger faggot, please

its a flag they must carry, "its never been done right!" and "we would do it the right way, not how Stalin did it!" even though....thats the way it was intended to be.

Our government gets enough of our money, they dont need MORE

>I'm in favor of dismantling public education
of course you are
don't want any poors getting any good ideas how to change things
>I don't know what full diversity is
yes you do
and you're going to avoid answering the question the rest of the thread.

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yes we are trumpshit
we are
Sanders is not arguing for control of the means of production, he is proposing New Deal style policies like Franklin Roosevelt did.
Now shut up.

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>durr trumps shitty economic policies don't matter
>ron paul durr
lol kys

I mean while I'm not in gender studies, of course I have student debt, tho again I'm not 20 something either.

It's funny how you have to either be born into money or go into debt to get an education, not that you would know anything about education. Oh wait, sorry let me put that in your native tongue.

Are you a edjyamacation guy or do you use oбpaзoвaниe?

Communism works*.

*for certain values of "works". Small, largely homogeneous groups operating at an agrarian / light industrial tech level, preferably with strong familial or ideological ties. Deffo not nation-state economies.

"only my opinion can be heard, be quiet"
spoken like a true socialist dictator.

By attacking Sanders and people who criticize Trump you are supporting Trump's Border Policies, his Tax Cuts for the Rich, his refusal to push for universal health care and believing climate change is a "hoax."
You keep attacking the wrong side faggot. Shut up.

>public education

it makes drones like you who have bought in to the ideology of Bernie but you ignore all of the 20th century. 100+ million dead as a conservative estimate of those who died in the implementation of communism.

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>btfo
>coping
>no u
lol snowflake literally stick your own dick
up your ass

Kibbutz were an absolute failure despite external injections of funds. so call me an skeptic about it working in the exact setting you described.

dont feel like it

I'm voting for him, actively talking to friends and family to do the same

You literally want a nation of stupid people so stupid people like Your President can control them.

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>New Deal style policies like Franklin Roosevelt did.
Literal socialist policies which extended the length of the depression and left us with unpayable messes? Ok, so nice to know that traditions are being kept alive.

I'm still gonna vote for Bernie

no they didn't trumpshit
in fact WWII was the New Deal kicked into maximum
you're literally a mushroom cock sucking lackey

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What's shitty about his economic policies? By every metric, the economy is doing better and more people are working and the average wages are increasing. What exactly is the failure of them?

Got any evidence that kibbutzim or other intentional communal arrangements fail, and at a rate higher than comparable hierarchical structures?

we’re not doing communism. get over it.

If that was the case, why did post war usa enter into another depression for roughly 6 years until the war economy controls were eased?

Burning a $2T hole in the budget?

sorry bro getting late
too high I thought this was a trump thread
>I'm still gonna vote for Bernie
so am I

right on brotha

Because every other industrial power on the planet had been actively bombed. Repeatedly.

We've already done this. Catch up.

no I want schools in the hands of parents and local communities, not centrally controlled by some national agency.

we had schools before the government got involved.

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en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kibbutz_crisis

so, by your logic, you can go on a shit slinging adventure all day long

but if anyone argues with the bad ideas you are slinging and inflammatory behavior......they are in the wrong?

i never supported any of those things....but if you want to talk about it, we can.
the border policy is "dont let people who are not citizens in without doing the paperwork" thats what it was under obama too...look back at the border policy, its largely the same, just obama was ignoring the ones that slipped by and never deported anyone

about the tax cuts, they were for specific things that i dont really know enough about, i know it was something that some people liked, some disliked, i could research it....but i dont honestly give a shit about what some dickhead with a skyscraper is doing.

as for the health care, you can look at our close neighbor canada and their 3-4 week wait times...social health care exists here, but universal health care is a bad idea for us, this one is complicated, but it promotes bad healthcare practice, we can talk on it if you like.

as for climate change, its not a hoax, thats fucking retarded...we agree on something.

So just curious, when Bernie wins, what 1st world country are you all going to move to that doesn't have Socalized Health Care.

Hard Mode, which one also doesn't have free higher education?

I'm not voting in a communist with a national socialist agenda. hell nah

yet again im flattered, your mother must be singing my praises, but il not be doing that, thanks for the self esteem boost though.

... so the USA entered a depression because everyone else got bombed to oblivion but began to recover before those countries were even starting to get repaired coincidentally and with no relationship to when the war controls got removed?

lmao...

November is going to be a bad month for you guys. which country will you guys move to for your red paradise after this year? China? Venezuela? North Korea?

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Because he wants universal healthcare, open borders, and said universal healthcare for illegal immigrants who dont pay taxes. White people are the only ones contributing positively to the economy through taxes so unless Kike Sanderberg changes into a white national socialist who wont give healthcare to subhumans he deserves no votes at all

I see you did your standard tactic of avoiding the question presented due to the fact it would have required a bit of thought and research on your part, which we know is something you are incapable of.

I enjoy getting money back from my taxes. Where does that idiot think money comes from otherwise?

its interesting that they arent bringing up Venezuela, given that its the most recent socialist regime....to fail and starve a bunch of people.
but what the fuck, a little cannibalism is good for ya!

so fucking close to an epic GET, wonder who got it....

Well, answering "Japan or Singapore, neither of which have socialized medicine but do have compulsory insurance and/or health savings" would have been answered with something pathetic, so why bother humoring you rather than insult you for being a filthy commie.

Well there are quite a few countries that manage to have policies similar to the ones presented by Bernie with great success.

Canada, Switzerland, Japan, Sweden, etc. How is your list doing btw?

samefagging myself to let you know i was hoping we could actually have a discussion, but the Wife is telling me its bed time and i am more interested in making her happy than you, pussy wins....im off to bed...best of luck to your regime.....and try to be more palatable, nobody takes you seriously and you hurt your cause when you are insufferable like you've been...anyone will tell you.

"Health care in Japan is, generally speaking, provided free for Japanese citizens, expatriates, and foreigners. Medical treatment in Japan is provided through universal health care. This system is available to all citizens, as well as non-Japanese citizens staying in Japan for more than a year. Students can register for health care in Japan through the National Health Insurance System, or in a health care association plan provided by their employer. If they enroll through their employer, their insurance contributions will be deducted automatically from their salary; if not, they must remember to pay the NHI tax regularly. Self-employed and unemployed people must enroll in the National Health Insurance plan at their local government office. Their NHI tax is determined based on income."

Well I can see just by doing an iota of research you have no idea what you are talking about. Nothing new here.

Describe, briefly, what policies of Bernie Japan follows. Quote the law, if possible.

democrat

>"Health care in Japan is, generally speaking, provided free for Japanese citizens, expatriates, and foreigners. Medical treatment in Japan is provided through universal health care. This system is available to all citizens, as well as non-Japanese citizens staying in Japan for more than a year. Students can register for health care in Japan through the National Health Insurance System, or in a health care association plan provided by their employer. If they enroll through their employer, their insurance contributions will be deducted automatically from their salary; if not, they must remember to pay the NHI tax regularly. Self-employed and unemployed people must enroll in the National Health Insurance plan at their local government office. Their NHI tax is determined based on income."

Japanese military spending is TINY. They benefit from the USA protecting them for free.

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jew

Japan isnt filled with niggers

>Democratic socialism is socialism
>Socialism is communism.
>Just like the Marxist Stage theory; stage 5 is Socialism.
>Fuck commies, fuck socialists, fuck Bernie

Hey so when Trump tweets this:

"IF OUR FORMALLY TARGETED FARMERS NEED ADDITIONAL AID UNTIL SUCH TIME AS THE TRADE DEALS WITH CHINA, MEXICO, CANADA AND OTHERS FULLY KICK IN, THAT AID WILL BE PROVIDED BY THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, PAID FOR OUT OF THE MASSIVE TARIFF MONEY COMING INTO THE USA!"

you must have a real problem with that, right? because socialism leads to communism and all that.

>What first world country you moving to without free health care?
>JAPAN
>...Japan has free health care.
>MILITARY SMOL!
Master tier debate skills, there.

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Ah I see. We are moving the goal posts now. Pretty sure that has nothing to do with when you stated , but in understand you have trouble following your own ramblings.

Universal Health Care, affordable (and soon to be free) Higher education. Which are two of Bernie's primary platforms. Their major point of contention would be immigration, which is partly due to the fact they are significantly limited on space. Again tho you want everyone to do all the research for you, so that you can just ignore it and shuffle the goal posts a bit further away.

I love watching how much in denial Democrats are about their unfair primary system.
The GOP could have dumped trump but they respected the process to the letter and he became the nominee, and now president.
Bernie is just there to sucker millennials out of their cash yet again.

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Japan has the SDF. They benefit from having offensive acts of war completely written out of their constitution.

... are nigga for real or you can't fucking read. Socialized medicine and compulsory insurance ain't the same fucking thing and it very much not fucking free, or otherwise doctor visits would not have cost me a dime. Caps of 30% of cost of service based upon ability to pay and requirements you are paying into insurance are literally written into the law. Aka, you have to fucking pay you twat.

We could afford Universal care if we weren't blowing $1,000,000,000,000 per year on our military empire.

Assisting certain markets with subsidies =/= government ownership of markets and a command economy you utter fucking brainlet, you literal tool. Read some fucking Kropotkin

so wait you're okay with assisting oil barons with subsidies but if you assist like, people who have cancer, you're basically hitler? that's seriously your worldview?

>Japan has the SDF
The SDF is a joke, and funded mainly by the USA. If you ever want to disappoint your japanese parents, tell them you are joining the Self Defence Forces.

its almost like the USA had a hand in writing their constitution

seems a bit rude to bitch about it now

Meanwhile Canadians come over the border for our healthcare because of how well Universal Healthcare is working over there /s

insurance companies are sending people to mexico to buy drugs because it's cheaper to pay them for their time, flight, and hotel, than to just buy the drug at the local CVS.

But sure all seems fine over here!

Yeah, ive never been asked to go to Mexico for any of my scripts. No need to make shit up to push an agenda.

Where are the proofs?

Because if you wanted a socialist/communist, you would simply move to a different country.

The only reason you're voting for Bernie is because you think your shit money handling skills will be fixed with other people's wealth.

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hello
here to interrupt your politics with washtub bass
that is all

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You can literally search it, your on the fucking internet big guy. It will be like the third article down.

SO KAWAII

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No, you are confusing socialized insurance and 100% free full coverage insurance. It is still socialized, it is just not 100% coverage. Compulsory insurance would just mean you are required to have insurance, regardless if how you get it. Socialized means it is provided by the government through tax dollars and subsidies.

Sorry if that is difficult concept for you to grasp. You could learn more by seeking higher education, but we know that you can't afford it. Maybe Bernie will fix that for you.

>look at that faggot over there

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"Best"... lol... you fuckers are so goddamn stupid. Kill yourself.

>>oh shit he got me
>>oh I'll just post a picture and call him a faggot, that will show him!!!

god these bernie bros make me seethe. I cannot mentally live in a world where bernie could have and will win. Looking forward to working with Donald and all of Donald's supporters to stop this menace.

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Bernie wants socialized healthcare which, as this fellow pointed out in a rather brash manner, is not the same as universal healthcare. Universal healthcare is about access, socialized medicine (a la NHS) is about gubernamental control of the delivery of medicine. And Japan most definitely is not controlling the delivery of medicine and is veryvmuch arranging it for access. Where Bernie just looking into increasing access a la Japan, the goal would be to decentralized everything as Japan has done and increasing the number of physicians to attend everyone. Not, for example, expanding Medicare and it's authority to determine how service can be delivered and how much has to be paid.

And I have not heard of any plans to take on the 10k per year that is charge bybmost Japanese universities, seeing how most if not all aren't public institutions and even the public ones charge only 2k less than the private ones for the most part. A massive program to nationalize all these universities or start paying all these fees sounds like an interesting undertaking which I can find no news for. Care to link to where Japan is doing either of these? Or do you mean that Japan wil continue what it always has done and help low income students with exceptional grades get scholarships?

Most of you crotch rots barely have hair on your balls and think Little Bernie is offering something your mother couldn't. A father figure, too bad he won't win for you.

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cute that you believe trump is actually in charge

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He'll disarm the prolitariat preventing a true revolution and prevent the collapse of the American empire.

A socialized program is one whose expense is mostly paid by people other than its users (Food stamps) rather than the individuals who use it (Airport Security). To argue the later is socialized because everyone who uses it pays into it is to argue literally everything is socialized, which... well, is just dumb.

the-japan-news.com/news/article/0006021575

Google is hard. However you are way more articulate then the average idiot here so I'm just going to assume you truly didn't believe there was work on such a project and not that you are incapable of doing research.

Don't mind me I'm just going to vote for Bernie so I can stay at my wage cuck job in the fast food industry therefore giving me time to play footnote longer.

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It must be if you link an article stating low income students of sufficient grades will be given scholarships to go to universities. I am this close to thinking you are trolling.

Find anything anywhere that says that is the definition of a socialized program. I'll wait. Or are we making up definitions.

Please copy and paste the portion where grades are mentioned.

I know it is rude to plug my thread in here like this but if you can answer any of the questions any better than I would appreciate it

That's not how evidence works. If I were to make the completely factual claim that the largest market of medical tourism is the United States, both in terms of people and money, me not linking anything to support it is a point against it rather than evidence you are a lazy socialist.

Not who you aren't responding to, but here you go.

usnews.com/news/best-states/articles/2018-11-01/utah-insurance-company-is-paying-people-to-pick-up-their-prescriptions-in-mexico

Sorry Google and research is not a skill you have learned yet. Maybe you will in college. On the bright side you will be able to afford it when Bernie is president.

Here are a couple
>your vote won't matter
>bernie is part of the elite, not against it
>his policies deny basic economics
>his policies cost more than taxes can possibly cover
>he successfully passed through a systems of psychopaths at the top, there is no denying he is a psychopath himself
>his policies will hurt people he's "trying to help"

Anything to back any of that up or just talking out your ass, I know you commonly confuse it with your face.

Not having send anyone yet sounds pretty much like it hasn't happened, and they mentioning that this applies to anything that reduces the cost of procuring the medicine, including those in Utah, sounds like this is some hypothetical rather than something anyone has done (again, no one according to them).

>Meanwhile top two quintile Canucks come over the border for health care because they shouldn't have to wait in a priority queue with the poors.
FTFY.

Not that user. He DID pass through a system of sociopaths (not psychopaths, largely) and narcissists and rose to the top. That, in and of itself, isn't a value judgment.

Again, if you would do the research yourself you would find more recent articles.

theguardian.com/us-news/2020/feb/11/utah-cuts-healthcare-costs-flying-employees-mexico-prescription-drugs

Oh well. "You can lead a horse" etc.

It doesn't mention grades, seeing how this about the universities rather than the students, but if you know how Japanese scholarships work then you know it's tied to that given the ones that are not elegible. Why?
Because it's a grant, which are given only to students who have been accepted after passing the standard university exams, and the policy specifically denies eligibility to universities who do not fulfill the acceptance requirements or that show signs of financial weakness that might lead them to not fulfill the necessary quotas.

Aka, this isn't free college, as the eligibility requirements and the scholarship requirements clearly show.

For non serious procedures, don't forget that part.

but that's wrong

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Lol, you think they are just going to give Jim Tod, who has never learned how to even spell his name, free college tuition if Bernie is elected or something? No wonder you fucker are always so angry.

If it weren’t for the Bernie spam, we’d still have Trump spam

Bernie spam is much less annoying so let’s keep it that way

Thats the PEHP crash incentive you fucking inbred. The program literally pays you to go there. Fuck me, read your own articles. You are the type of people that vote blue.

But that's wrong. Most of the people coming into the USA come for heart, brain, and cancer treatments.

So it's actually just our current scholarship program and nothing else rather than what Bernie says that they will pay everyone's higher education? Well, nice to know Bernie isn't serious about what he is saying and he's just gonna continue what we are doing? Neat. Hope it's the same for healthcare.

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Yes... it pays you to go there because it is cheaper for them to have you fill your prescriptions there then it is to do it in the states... which is exactly what the first user said, jesus christ can you even follow your own train of thought or is it like riding one of them bulls at the rodeo you are so fond of.

Have a source on any of that. Of course you don't.

To be fair, they pay them to go there because drug manufactures charge exorbitant amounts to insurance companies who then in turn have to increase cost for everyone.

Our current scholarship programs can't even cover the average community college, let alone a 4 year institution. Clearly you have never been to college before.

IT PAYS EMPLOYEES. READ. Fuck we need another plague.

As opposed to the bloodsucking middle in medicare whose entire purpose is telling you no when you need medicine?

healthleadersmedia.com/strategy/flourishing-medical-tourism-business-america

...which are prima facie less severe than the ones currently being treated in Canuckistan, otherwise they'd be at the front of the queue. Also, got any numbers to back that up?

The INSURANCE covers STATE EMPLOYEES. LEARN TO READ, NOT PARSE FOR BUZZWORD YOU RETARD!

>>The cost savings are so large that the insurance program can pay for each patient’s flight, give them a $500-per-trip bonus and still save tens of thousands of dollars.

>H3.Group empowers today’s healthcare professionals with solution-focused information and intelligence to guide their healthcare organizations’ efforts in achieving compliance, financial performance, leadership, and organizational excellence.

Any reputable sources that AREN'T nuts deep in the US healthcare-industrial complex?

Weird, no mention of chemotherapy, cancer, or any other terminal illness...

pehp.org/

You can do you're own work, unless you need Bernie to find someone to do it for you.

If going by the average cost of private institutions in Japan, 10k, vs the maximum grant, 7k, neither will the new program. It's almost like its not intended to pay for everything.

Lol, I'm not doing your work for you. We already covered the fact you can't read and are just parsing for the nearest buzzword. You proved that when you pretended the previous article supported your position when you found that one word, and called it a day. Not realizing the patients in question were state employees. You are a lazy piece of shit who couldn't even pass a high school level requirement of research and citation. Hope you got your GED before they increased the difficulty of the tests, I'm sure you couldn't pass them anymore even if you had the answer sheet right in front of you. You wouldn't know how to read it.

Who would you accept as a legitimate source?

Also, related:
amjmed.com/article/S0002-9343(18)30620-X/fulltext

schoolynk.com/media/articles/245ea105-7e5e-49db-ad13-17c083b9a00a
>>The tuition itself per year is fixed at 585,800 yen (around 5348 US dollars). There is a separate admission fee in the first year, which is also fixed at 282,000 yen (around 2575 US dollars).

the-japan-news.com/news/article/0006021575
>>Up to about ¥700,000 will be provided in annual tuition fees, and up to about ¥910,000 will be provided in grant-type financial aid.

Google and Citation are still difficult.

Still no reference of terminal/serious illness... odd. Also two different people you are replying to. Medical tourism does happen. But it is for non threatening procedures.