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President
Caleb Thompson
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David Bailey
Trump
Robert Gutierrez
nope, never, no way, no how.
Henry Scott
is
Luis Gomez
I like Bernie.
Jordan Lee
gay lol
Adam Adams
Of the communist party
Austin Nguyen
Hooefully. It would be a big hit to the global elite and their political stranglehold on US politics.
Joshua Clark
Wanna be president, destined to lose
Angel Jackson
still your president.
Jeremiah Williams
Yeah but 4 years too late. We could've avoided Trump altogether. Every goddamn Democrat has to spend his entire presidency fixing the previous one's fuck-ups.
Mason Gutierrez
uh huh, because Obama did a great job NOT airstriking children like Bush did
Justin Brooks
Oliver Walker
Delusional.
Asher Rivera
97 Trillion reasons not to vote for Sanders:
city-journal.org
Jeremiah Moore
>wants open borders
>embraces AOC's support
>supports BLM
Has no chance of beating Trump. Winning these little democratic caucuses means nothing in the context of an election against Trump.
Jonathan Foster
soon enough
Dylan Hall
You are a dumb patsy for the rich elite that rule this country. Take an economics and civic class loser.
Sebastian Bell
I have a constant dull pain in my head and frequent headaches I am also scared of suffocating in my sleep
Hudson Morris
Bernie won't even get the nomination.
Caleb Peterson
bruh just get a cpap
Dominic Thomas
Easy: current, future or former inmate
Cooper Garcia
Nicholas Lee
comfiest server for suicidal trans girls
all welcome /q3XQyZc/
referral code (post this): 8035
Easton Cook
european style casket
Ryder Thomas
In here, people don't understand socialism.
Christopher Fisher
>I'll insult you in hopes that you see my way of thinking.
Stay classy, user.
Nathaniel Richardson
You know what would be classy? Education, get some.
Xavier Sanchez
>Muh elitism
Hudson Ward
You know nothing about me, you are full of assumptions and bile, tell me why i should even bother conversing with you.
Evan Foster
Nope. It's cute to dream though.
Brayden Adams
soy boy libcuck snowflake here, Bernie will win! You best watch out trumptards! Bernie bros unite!
Joseph Peterson
I'm full of assumptions? You're the one who thinks that wasn't my first post in this thread (it was). Don't talk to me, or anyone here. it's never worth it. I learned that in Cred Forums 101.
Muh dick
Ryan Reyes
Luke Anderson
A pedophile
Nicholas Cruz
Hudson Sullivan
And yet, here you are.
Easton Martin
Josiah Watson
Cred Forums goes in Cred Forums. you faggots are the new mlp shitposters.
Eli Smith
Bernie is a family man just like us. Look how happy he is with his lovely wife.
Tyler Wright
Lol
Xavier Martinez
Evan Reed
Fucking kikes.
Grayson Ross
Lucas James
I've never been a good student, I like learning too much. I failed Cred Forums 101 when I taught myself to use the Cred Forums API, made a website that tracked shit posters, and then got accused of being the leader of the shit post Illuminati. I was doxed and raided by 5 boards, Moot participated even, until I convinced him to check his emails and see he had admin access to the website for months. I was a dumbass, still am, but at least I got my schooling.
Hunter Morris
Jonathan Hernandez
Trump is going to start that investigation of bernie over russia. Boob case close. Fox new is great at the propaganda.
Sebastian Bennett
Logan Jenkins
The walking pile of grease soaked corruption may get another term. What you don't realize is that irrespective of your alignment in his cult of personality, you too will eventually feel the tightening of the economic pressures. America will die a slow death at the hand of oligarchic manipulation. It won't be malicious, it isn't really malicious now. The ends, they say, will justify these means, but that is the lie. There is no end, just the cycle of corruption that you are facilitating. Short sighted gains soaked in the fetid remains of the American dream.
You are our shame.
Hudson Thompson
Nope, its true.
Ayden Hernandez
...
Sebastian Hill
kek
Lincoln Williams
Chairman
Jack Reed
WHy does bernie live in a house? checkmate libtards
Aiden Reed
FAKE
Dylan Cook
If Bernie Sanders likes taxes so much, he can give all his money to the IRS
checkmate libtards
Charles Taylor
Everyone who votes for Sanders gets a free pony!
Like totally FREE!
Did I mention the free ponies?
#TotallyFreePony
Isaiah Sanders
Awwww yisss gimme dat freee sheeeeeit
Xavier Roberts
sucks
Isaac Rogers
How would a globalist be a hit to the global elite?
Jack Harris
Trump has had to spend the last three undoing all of Obama's globalist bullshit. We finally have our country back, it is now time to strengthen it, not vote in a self proclaimed socialist.
Isaiah Hernandez
This guys gets it
Adam Myers
He can't even pull a majority of Dems, how do you expect him to win the general election?
Jordan Sanders
Your REEEEEEEs will be the loudest when Trump loses.
Jose Lewis
Hudson Wright
You act like the republicans don't use a winner takes all system which reduces the chance of a plurality. Trump wouldn't have had the majority in 2016 if they used the democrats system.
Nathaniel Ramirez
PRESIDENT OF WHAT ? HOUSE NUMBER 4
TRUMP WILL BE THE US PRESIDENT
Ryan Bailey
That is why we don't use the communist committee system.
Asher Nguyen
>democrats system.
IS RIGGING SHIT
Lucas Bennett
Implying Trump isn't an old dying fuck either?
Robert Bailey
That's right!!
Andrew Cook
Is there any proof of the math on this?
Luis Cox
ooooh, a crowder meme...you KNOW this is totally accurate and not at all completely unfounded bullshit!
Lincoln Powell
well bernie's had more heart attacks, so there's that
Nathan Moore
Communism
Adrian Young
BBC SLUTS EVERYWHERE
WHITE CUCKS
HOMOSEXUALITY
AND YOU SAY PRESIDENT
Cooper Perry
makes sense that you would also shill for Bernie too then.
Wyatt Jones
...of the Democratic Socialists of America. Not of the US.
Gavin Long
Nolan Taylor
yes. Ran it on Google calculator. It checked out
Jeremiah Jackson
PRESIDENT BERNIE SANDERS
Ayden Kelly
>first day of bernie presidency
>bunch of roasties storm the white house
>bernie slinks off to the white house cuck shed
Alexander Jenkins
Feel free to start the US over somewhere else if you truly feel that way. I'm sure you'll have success.
Jason Allen
Not when 2/3 of the voters say they wouldn't vote for a socialist.
Asher Roberts
Trump is the biggest fucking CUCK in the world.
Melania has to be fucking someone else, nobody would ever fuck Trumps ugly old bald ass
Eli Roberts
>Pulling numbers straight from my ass
Bernie will beat the living shit out of Trump
Jayden Thompson
Very nice guy. Never sexually harassed anybody, unlike trump
Nolan Watson
Unless Trump walks up to his podium, in which case Bernie will nope off the stage like a cuck like he's done before.
Jaxon Morales
He ain't a socialist tho. He's like center left, a social democrat.
Isaac Smith
No, he is proof that the ugly guy gets the best women. He gives hope to all the ugly men everywhere.
Nicholas Lewis
Nice boomer meme, you cocksucking faggot.
Christian Wright
That poll was on all the major networks last week, dumbass.
William Davis
No problem, the left will just redefine words like they always do.
Watch them turn the word "socialist" into "social democrat"
Tyler Williams
Edgy boy
Aaron Hernandez
lol no.
Universal healthcare more than pays for itself. See: the entire developed world
USA owes a huge infrastructure repair debt regardless. It'll only get more expensive if you don't unfuck it before it implodes.
same re: climate change. I'm not having kids so it makes no direct difference to me, but if you give a shit about your crotchspawn surviving past 30, you may consider the issue worth looking into
Michael Parker
>President and Russian asset
ftfy
Kevin Smith
I've already bought real estate on the moon.
Julian Adams
he's a fucking Marxist. He's only pretending to be a "sociali democrat" to steal democrat vote because he is to much of a pussy to run on a social democrat party
Nathaniel Price
universal healthcare = pure unadulterated socialism. Every single person who works hard enough to afford their own healthcare will have to pay double or lower their healthcare standard all because they would be responsible for the lives of people who don't try as hard to protect it. Effectively turning people slaves of each other. Whatever I would benefit cus i'm a lazy bum fuck. I would never work a day in my life if I didn't have to lmao.
Luke Wilson
Zachary Morris
>No, he is proof that the ugly guy gets the best women. He gives hope to all the ugly men everywhere.
Not because he literally bought his wife!!!!!
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Brandon Kelly
hired a gay man for VP
James Ross
I don't shill for anyone and I'm a moderate, the dumbest political position of them all.
Nathan Martin
Camden Rodriguez
No, no it wasn't. No.
Aaron Hill
trips of truth
Nathan Evans
He is a self proclaimed socialist who voted with the Dems in the Senate. He only added the Democratic socialist a when he started running for president to confuse the ignorant and uninformed.
Joseph Bailey
TRUMP SUPPORTERS-IF TRUMP IS UNOPPOSED IN YOUR STATE, VOTE SANDERS IN THE PRIMARIES.
Daniel Evans
Watch how the right insist the world is run by Jews by using (((this))) and turn normal peaceful shit into hate symbols.
It's super fucking idiotic, like I'm sorry if you were bullied or whatever, but you got to grow up and stop with your bullshit, you obviously don't know nothing about "the left" if this is the dumb shit you say, stop watching Ben Shapiro and study
Adam Hughes
Economy 101
Jace Barnes
Yea right, all Trump has to do is take away Bernie's mic. That is the kind of weak ass man you want as President? I guess bending over and being submissive is appealing to the gays and trannies.
Jaxson Kelly
Camden Watson
>ignorant and uninformed
the only reason why donald trump got elected is because of the ignorant and uninformed.have fun using your buzzwords for bernie sanders
Colton Gray
how about trump supporters stay home and not vote.since idiot voters are the reason why america is such a pile of shit
Connor Martinez
My skills are in high demand and I help make a lot of money for my employers and I; but If we go full socialist then I'm just going to stop working and live off handouts while I play vidya and sleep all day.
Why work when I can get guaranteed healthcare, food and shelter?
>it's called doing your part and being a decent fucking human being you shitlord!
fuck that. gibme my free shit!
Evan Lewis
Still haven’t figured things out it seems...
Caleb Lee
If he does anything like that we will have Trump fucking arrested for election fraud and thrown right the fuck IN JAIL!!!!!
Nathan Ward
>weak ass man
yeah,like the man who couldnt fight for country so he decided to win a bowling trophy instead
donald trump is a weak piece of shit,just like his hillbilly moron supporters
Aaron Howard
Universal healthcare does not pay for itself. That is why all the European countries are scaling it back. It is bankrupting their economies. Just look at Finland.
Chase Perry
He's a bloody liberal, he just understands that the workers deserve full compensation and that healthcare is a human right, literally only you idiots think it's not a right. Plus, the fucking democrats are running against him, they are just as conservative as the republicans.
Jackson Peterson
Matthew Green
> weak ass man
> bone spurs
Jaxon Adams
Lucas Phillips
You say that, but Bernie has been pretty clear from the start that his position is not based on any Marxist ideals and that the government should not own the means to production. He merely believes that the workers who make most of the wealth should get their fair share. His tax proposals are the most extreme "socialist" policy in this regard, and yet they'd still be nothing new to America. We've had a 90% tax before, we'll have it again.
Charles Thompson
Ryan Diaz
>the fucking democrats are running against him
makes my sticker peck out-
Gavin Jackson
Benjamin Fisher
You are seriously going to be butthurt come November, aren't you?
Matthew Cruz
galaxy brain
Lincoln Nguyen
amen, he has my vote!!
Isaac Evans
The democrats say "ask not what your country can do for you", and republicans hear "gimme free shit"
Josiah Morris
Are you fucking stupid? You don't buy a basic human right, and it's implemented in European countries like Spain and England, nobody is losing money, and fuck you, people die because they can't afford healthcare in the USA. Everyone deserves healthcare, we can't let people die just because they are poor. Stop acting as if the lazy rich capitalist are more deserving than the rest of the world.
Kayden Hill
Landon Sanders
I agree, but it's not simply that you don't have to work and chill all day, on top of that if you DO work, you won't get as much out of it as before because they need to take it and redistribute it.
Honestly, I think what we should really be trying to do is fund robotics and AI so that robots can create wealth, then the government can buy fuck tons of those robots and use them to fund their socialism, everyone gets benefits and if you work, you get the benefits PLUS your hard work. Win/Win for all.
Daniel Russell
One of these two men couldn't fight off 2 black girls who took his mic and hijacked his event. Now you tell me which one of them is the cuck.
Carter Powell
Dipshit Jew who if he were any older would of been oven baked and not running
Jackson Morales
Matthew Thompson
You guys could be doing better, so much better. Of course your governments learn to suck the blood just enough so as not to kill the host. Most diseases that continue their existence work the same way.
Ayden Barnes
Zachary Cox
>you don't buy a basic human right
Tell that to the slaves who bought their freedom.
Samuel Morales
Caleb Turner
How dare you insult this brave soldier
Kayden Foster
Austin Sanchez
Hell no, dude is weak A.F.
Ethan Walker
Dominic Parker
Arrested for... election... fraud?... In... jail? What? Can't take a joke, a baby, and an idiot. Ladies and gentlemen, your typical leftist!
Parker Nguyen
Gavin Gray
>huh?...what?..where am i??...trump is a cuck??...i am too????
Typical Cuckservative
Hudson Gutierrez
Christopher Wood
Nature would just be like.. ehh kill them, only the ones fit for survival make it anyways.
But the human in me agrees that we shouldn't just let each other die if we can do something about it. The issue becomes when you force some people to sacrifice a portion of their own lives. Whatever, I have faith that we'll figure it out eventually.
James Gonzalez
Healthcare is not a right. You need to pay for it. I love how the leftists call anything they wish to push on the working people a right. It is my right not to have some communist bitch steal my money to pay for lazy niggers and illegals.
Owen Stewart
What? You obviously don't live in Europe, you wouldn't have said that. And you're missing the point, it's a a human right, just like free speech or the right to work, everyone has it, they cannot be denied unless they live in a capitalist hell hole like the USA. I'd fucking rather pay taxes instead of paying individually, we'd all be living in the streets if not.
Xavier Rivera
Juan Watson
Alexander Perry
Unlikely.
Not an americuck, I live in a first world country
Thomas Brown
Not a hell hole at all, our poor are fat as fuck, only drug addicts who refuse help are in the streets. and we're rich as fuck. We got a big fat military dick that sprawls across the earth and jizzes all over you faggots.
Cameron Lopez
Privacy is not a right, you need to pay for it with VPNs and other services! Poor people don't deserve privacy.
Nolan Carter
Asher Richardson
Brody Rodriguez
is that supposed to mean something fag boy? i bet you're as sad as they come.
Anthony Harris
vOTe tRumP!
Thomas Cook
Isaac Cox
>Healthcare is not a right
I think most of Europe would argue it is. Shithead. Also you shouldn't be on Cred Forums if you are under 18.
Hudson Howard
nice dubs, faggot
Brody Turner
Why did you tell her that you're an admin?
Why didn't you marry her? Do you have any idea how many dicks she had? Holy shit nigga you're fucked up
Parker Lopez
Forgot the jews
Eli Wood
Ethan Roberts
Even Canada has private supplemental insurance, cuckboy. Wanna know why? On the shit plan everyone gets, you go on waiting lists for stuff you need. You may die before you get care. But if you’re rich and have private insurance, front of the line. OR the rich come to the US for treatment. Same with Britain, google that shit
Brayden Miller
Isaac Hill
A right does not infringe on some one else's. "Free" healthcare is just redistribution of wealth. Like most of these programs. It boils down to "I don't want to be productive and earn my way, give me free ( that guy over there's ) stuff.
Lincoln James
Samuel Baker
This guy gets it
Cooper Howard
Camden Morales
learn this, then come back and try to say Bernie has the right ideas
Angel Hughes
Grayson Perez
Bernie has the right ideas.
Gavin Collins
LMAO
David Hill
You're a dumb piece of shit. Who's rights are you infringing by having healthcare for everyone? Nobody's, you're just too fucking stupid to understand that it's better to pay hundreds instead of millions.
Christopher Harris
en.wikipedia.org
> muh wait lists
I'd tell you to read, but the US education system seems to only produce semi-literates at best
Luis Morgan
Bernie is going to cuck Trump, isn't he?
Eli Parker
Adrian Howard
you can't just go around willy nilly stealing peoples shit. oh wait governments already do that, yeah we're gonna fight to slow it down as much as possible, otherwise we would be a starving 3rd world country of beggars and thieves.
Kayden Baker
Ethan Phillips
Grayson Flores
You trusting wikishit for information lolz
Blake Barnes
Carson Ross
Of what?
Jason Morris
Bernie isn't going to fucking win, HELLO?! Trump won the last election, do you think those people will be like, ehh lets give SOCIALISM a try...
Isaiah Collins
Been here since 2007 and I am well past 18. And that "right" is bankrupting Europe, and the quality of care is shit. That is why anybody that can, comes to the US for treatment.
Logan Gonzalez
Dylan Turner
Robert Wilson
Minimum wage is a price floor. You obviously did not learn. Try again
Oliver Sullivan
David Ramirez
Jeremiah Kelly
>Immediately distrusting all sources of information, even if it might be right
Yup, Trumptard here
Lincoln Moore
You're too fucking stupid. Most first world countries have healthcare, you idiot. We're aren't going to let someone die just because you don't understand human rights.
Caleb Green
Nolan White
Leo Bell
Jayden Hill
why did he do it?
Josiah Bailey
I don't fucking buy it, we have tourists from the USA coming here to get medical treatment. You're full of it.
David Cook
OMG-
one of these human misfires posted a funny meme.
Gavin Stewart
based on all analysis of his and many other plans, I would pay more than I do now though taxes. I made the stupid mistake of being successful and make a decent amount of money that will be taxed at a higher rate than others to pay for this. Please tell me what percentage of my money you have the right to?
Josiah Barnes
trump's a ticking time bomb and you all fucking know it
Nicholas Turner
whatever you say my dude
Elijah Perez
you're trolling but thats ok. the only reason your countries can maintain health care is cus you don't have to spend much on your military cus big ol murica daddy is keeping the world safe for you all, otherwise hitelr would have fucked you all hard as fuck already and/or muslims would have jihadded your anuses to hell and back.
Landon Ramirez
b-b-but b-bernie is two years older!
Benjamin Walker
don't believe those statistics, they come from people who actually participate in those things. when the actual elections come around, the majority of the voters that don't appear on those statistics get up and go vote.
Noah Long
all of it rightfully belongs to the workers, which purely for convenience sake will be managed by completely disinterested, honest politicians
Brody Lewis
Shifty Jew
Ryder Bennett
Carter Sanders
tfw I forgot how universally popular his opponent was
Juan Johnson
What are you? Someone's boss or something? If so, fuck you, dirty capitalist. You're basically proposing the idea that poor people don't deserve to live. And which country are you talking about? In Spain for example, the working class pays the same, and the companies/people who own privatised property pay another kind of tax (small and big companies pay the same btw). You're just lying through your ass, stop roleplaying.
Zachary Gomez
Just so I understand, what policy in particular did you have an issue with?
Robert Evans
I personally knew a Canadian who died on a waitlist. But u got wikishit, yeah?
You win
Juan Hill
>"Free" healthcare is just redistribution of wealth
Ownership is a concept created by the state, maintained at the expense of the tax payer. Those who claim to own the greatest stores of wealth can claim so only because of the legal system which agrees to recognise that ownership, the police and agencies which enforce it, the social contract shared by the population who consent to it and the state's protection of this entire structure from destruction by outside actors. Without all of those mutual social agreements the only things Bezos can claim ownership to are the things he can protect with his own hands. Without the labour of the general population who staff the police and the courts, the financial sector and the military protection of the country which recognises that ownership, nothing is stopping the local proles from strolling up to his mansion, throwing him out the door and stating "This is ours now".
The protection of ownership is the largest social welfare program in the United States. It is nine tenths of the law. The people who benefit the most from this welfare program are those who claim to own the most. Redistribution of wealth from the wealthiest who horde it to the poorest who pay for its protection is an essential market correction.
Josiah Bennett
I don't see how it's even possible for Bernie to win
Jacob Baker
Feeling the Bern. Feeling it in my heart. And in my fists.
Julian Anderson
Anyone can go to an emergency room now.
Checkmate libfag
Blake Young
maybe, maybe not, the pollsters try to correct for that so it's a question of whether they estimated correctly more than anything. we do know that democrats turned out way above normal in the last midterms and swept the house, so you can probably expect dems to turn out again in big numbers this year which is statistically bad for trump.
Chase Kelly
Teehee I see them pencil arms flailing around lol
Eli Russell
i guess that's true. idk, as someone who wanted trump to win cus it would stir shit up, i'm also down for Bernie cus of the same reason, except i think Donald has bigger and hairier balls.
Austin Lopez
Education is elitist?
That was a two word condemnation of the entire USA.
Chase Price
mean look at her. We all would
Brayden Fisher
Still getting the republican votes. I mean, I guess we know where their loyalties lie now, right?
Jack Collins
Then why are my Canadian friends coming to the US so they don't have to wait 6 months to see a doctor?
Nathaniel Morales
I just feel like if the democrats focus on bashing on trump and making it seem like you're idiotic for voting for him, they are bound to lose again cus people fucking hate that. I know I do.
Sebastian Barnes
dubs don't lie.
> I got mine, don't wanna pay no taxes
> Wait, where did all the police go who were stopping the angry pitchfork mobs?
Alexander Bailey
Bernie has the right ideas.
Hudson Collins
how cute, let me guess, you are in college and one of your professors woke you
Lucas Martinez
>no rebuttal
Logan Wood
tell me how a price floor succeeds with this model?
Brayden Watson
The problem is that its true.
Why the fuck are you voting for someone out of spite? Vote for someone who you agree with.
Bentley Powell
ITS TIEM BOIS
AMERICA RIGHT NOW IS TESTING 1463 NEW CASES OF COVID-19 AND RIGHT NOW HAVE A SLOW RECOVERY RATE BECAUSE 80% OF AMERICANS ARE OVERWEIGHT AND UNHEALTHY.
RIP AMERICA, HOPE IT SPREADS LIKE WILDFIRE SO I CAN WATCH WHAT EXCUSE TRUMP WILL COME UP WITH, WILL HE SCREAM FAKE NEWS OR NOT.
EITHER WAY ITS GOING TO BE AN INTERESTING NEXT 2 WEEKS WITH LOTS OF AMERICANS GOING TO CHURCH BEING INFECTED, JUST LIKE THAT KOREAN GUY WHO WALKED INTO A SOUTH KOREAN CHURCH AND PURPOSELY INFECTED PEOPLE WITHIN A COUPLE OF DAYS THE CASES SHOT UP.
GOODBYE AMERICA YOU WERE GOING TO DIE SOON ANYWAY....
Robert Watson
Bern 2020
Levi Johnson
Moar liek "Dear Leader", amirite, Comrade?
Jonathan Williams
cant fucking wait
Andrew Long
F E E L
T H E
B E R N
Jackson Anderson
Not my president
Nicholas Bailey
I hope Bernis wins the primary. I have followed several of these threads and now believe the democrats will do anything to stop Benis.
Brandon Smith
First by acknowledging that what you have is a crude model without any sort of relation to actual values and relational sizes.
Then define "success".
Then by moving the lines accurately to gain success.
Justin Stewart
Ian Kelly
Van For Sale.
David Jenkins
All of his job destroying regulations, his amnesty for fucking illgeals, his push of the faggot/tranny agenda and his pushing for more gun control. Just name a few.
Robert Smith
Denmark Norway Canada UK... and you fucks think your making us great while we have the most retarded healthcare system anyone could imagine
Samuel Martinez
Grrr.. askin me 2 do my civic duty... what fuckin country is this
Sebastian Ortiz
Trump 2020
Eli Cooper
not the picture numb nuts, the concept of supply and demand. Minimum wage is a price floor. And price floors and ceilings always fail. Its Econ 101
Cameron White
Spoken like a true communist.
Logan Gomez
He is a globalist and a jew, what are you smoking?
Dylan Sullivan
Last election democrats felt cheated out of their proper candidate and polls showed an unreasonable lead, so voter turnout was at an all time low. The anger and resentment stemming from this are sure to bring out more voters, far more than voted for Trump in 2016. Whether or not this translates into victory in the election is another debate entirely.
Owen Morgan
>city-journal.org
You are aware this is an organization founded by Reagan's CIA director who funded the mujahideen in the 80s right
Grayson Bennett
numb nuts was unnecessary, Cred Forums makes my grumpy, but as I said floors fail
William Nguyen
>the most retarded healthcare system anyone could imagine
is medicare for all-
Nathan Bailey
>"I took a semester of econ during my first year in college so I obviously know more than anyone"
David Nelson
Thinks just because he comes in here firing off dubs he can spout off a bunch of communist bullshit and get away with it
Jaxson Nguyen
This is the most retarded shit ever
>Instead of collecting $200, pay 35% tax.
One, there is already an income tax slot to land on. Just increase it from 10% to 35% Two, passing go is like getting your income paycheck. You're saying 'stop getting a steady income'.
Figures the only way to criticize Bernie is to twist a game literally invented as an exaggerated parody of capitalism and further twist it into some kind of dystopian straw-man society to base your argument on.
Robert Hill
That is why we have the second amendment, so I can shoot any mother fucker that tries to steal my shit.
Tyler Mitchell
well actually I took 6 semesters since it was requires for a BS in Business finance. But minimum wage is a price floor and you learn the dangers of floors and ceilings in Econ 110. so you wouldn't need more than 1-2 semesters to see its failings
Daniel Robinson
JUST DONATED $$$ TO BERNIE!!!!
BERNIE 2020
Dylan Jackson
What you goddamn retards fail to understand is that the rich ALREADY get free shit, both from the government and in the retail environment. Its beyond fucking time that our taxes go to benefit the 99% but you are all far too stupid to grasp this basic concept. America deserves to die
Evan Hill
Yes this is a possibility, it could go either way. It really depends on who they put up against trump. if they choose that super creepy old dude that publicly smells girls in front of everyone, forgot his name, yeah dems are screwed, Bernie.. i also think is a bad choice cus most people are scared of communism. But who knows. Here's hoping for things to change as much as possible.
I'm just so sick of the same old parties doing their thing one after the other. it's like tag team and they both love to fuck us.
Jaxon Scott
Amen
Jaxson Cook
People who have heard Bernie's policy and first thinks "Wait, thats communism" were never going to vote Democrat anyways. Normal people think for a sec and ask 'why and how', not jump to Fox News talking point conclusions.
At the very least though, if Bernie gets elected I hope a new Progressive political party forms so they can leave the DNC in the dirt. They are sooooooo fucking corrupt and shady.
Asher Cook
You really haven't been paying attention have you.
foxnews.com
Fox link provided so you don't complain about sources. Sanders is strongly disliked by the establishment media and those in charge of the Democrat party because he opposes the big capital interests which those institutions are dedicated to defending. He's a jew in the same sense that Chomsky is a jew.
Charles King
You are aware that all the information in the article is linked and sourced to mainstream media, government, and bernie websites, right?
>Judging a book by it's cover
Benjamin Torres
>shoot any mother fucker
yeah, in my rural area, there are so many rednecks with high capacity mags, Santa Claus sublets.
Easton Hughes
What I love about Bernie getting more traction and Trump having been voted in is that people are sick of the establishment. And it's about time.
Xavier Edwards
There is a clear difference between a price for a product, a service and a salary in how they work in the larger scheme of things.
Low salaries are, near 100% of the time, redeployed into the market in a short time frame. Thus, for the market at large its near inconsequential except for one thing: it pushes some of the growth down towards the low-level economy, and removes some from the higher end. In the US right now, almost all wealth is placed in large holdings, and it will lead to a stagnation of the market.
We will, without serious adjustments to the distribution of the economic growth become Japan.
Carter James
As a Norwegian I find it hilarious that you think giving living wages will hurt the economy laughable.
Right now, the only ones benefiting from the current system are the already wealthy. And they benefit like fucking shit.
Bentley Morris
Leveraging the benefits of the free market while correcting for its failures isn't Communism sorry. Your lives are getting worse because the primary failure of the free market is taken as a benefit by the minority who profit from it, leading to it being protected at the cost of everything else.
Robert Carter
But they create the wealth. The poor don't create wealth and the government sure as shit doesn't either. The wealthy have the means to create jobs and prosperity.
Carson Hughes
Stick Bezos on an island by himself and see how much wealth pops out of him. Wealth is collectively created by every cog in the machine, you just attribute entirely too much of the credit to the owner of the machine's copyrighted name.
Bentley Peterson
OMG, that is stupid-
Jaxon Wood
Like anybody should listen to a pussy who was too scared to debate a skinny jew with glasses.
Liam Rogers
that's just one guy. I mean in general. When you tax the rich they just transfer that over to the workers and people buying the services. Shit gets more expensive. If you set minimum wages, they just hire only the most qualified and create less jobs. You never really take away from the wealthy.
Julian Russell
My grandfather ran a small paint store in Allentown PA. He got enough customers that he needed some help stocking and sweeping up. He was able to afford a certain amount and found a young man that was willing to work for that amount. Along came minimum wage. MY grandfather could not afford to pay that amount. So he had no help and the young man lost his job.
Ryan Thompson
Yeah, the Amazon brand creates all that wealth on its own - it has nothing to do with it workers!
> being this retarded
Alexander Torres
I suppose you think coming up with the idea for an online bookstore early enough to manage the brand to monopoly control of a market is a feat that should be rewarded with 2.8 million years worth of the average US salary? Because that sounds like a completely sane distribution of credit.
Robert Brooks
The people who organize those platforms need incentive. The random people buying and selling on amazon don't normally come together as a whole and create the platform evenly for the good of the people.
Dominic Jones
Incentive is fine, but gaining the power and authority of a major world country is a bit much.
Owen Ortiz
You know what really made me sick though? At the last Dem debate the last question asked was "Should the person who gets the most votes become the nominee? Or should it be contested and left to the super delegates?" Everyone there except Bernie said "Popular vote doesn't matter, leave it to the 'process'".
Dems have been working for 3 YEARS since the 2016 election to abolish the electoral college, the thing that makes the popular vote mean NOTHING. And yet there they are up on that stage, telling the Democratic party that the popular vote, the majority will of the people, doesn't matter. All because they know that Bernie is going to get the most votes.
William Baker
I cannot wait for your denial in November.
Get fucked while we pass solutions for your benefit, fellow citizen!
Joseph Taylor
>You don't buy a basic human right
what is:
>a water bill
>a mortgage
>rent
>groceries
Bentley Barnes
But were they talking about the nominee? because if they choose based on popular vote, but popular vote doesn't win the election, then the democrats (and republicans), who want to win, might want to choose someone who can win the electoral. But yeah, and I have tons of friends who refuse to vote simply because of the electoral college.
Thomas Lopez
Gunz included!!!
Brody Brown
I suppose you, who has probably contributed nothing to society, deserves some of his money?
Jacob Green
no, no you missed the point completely. YOU are stupid. Too indoctrinated and stupid for me to reply further.
Take your victory lap, genius.
Charles Green
Utilities have regulations on what they can charge you for public service, and for the rest of those you can shop around at clearly advertised prices.
Can't do that with healthcare.
William Butler
>When you tax the rich they just transfer that over to the workers and people buying the services
Yep
>Shit gets more expensive
Yep. And then some of that wealth will trickle back up into the hands of the wealthiest again as they provide products and services for the newly enriched workers and pocket their cut. However you've just changed the relative worth of different people's needs which will rearrange markets in a manner that provides greater benefit to the workers, because they now have a greater share of the wealth.
The supposed efficiency of the market comes from the way it creates motivation for everybody to seek out and meet the needs of other people for financial gain. This drives innovation and problem solving, creating solutions which should in theory make everybody's lives better. However the market also places different prices on different needs and wants. It is more valuable to meet the needs of those with the greatest share of wealth, because they'll pay more. For that reason the more wealth inequality grows the less effective the market becomes at meeting the general needs of society. As wealth collects into the hands of a few, more of the market realigns to provide its services to those wealthy few. Eventually you reach a situation where designing a new suit for Bezos provides a greater financial reward than solving 3rd world hunger.
This is why wealth inequality is a problem, and like the board game Monopoly growing wealth inequality is an in-built feature of the free market. Redistributing wealth from the few to the many will also redistribute the focus of the market, from meeting the needs of the few to meeting the needs of the many. Continually correcting for the continually growing divide in wealth is an essential role of government if you want the market to do what it's good at.
Landon Carter
Dylan Wood
>All because
they're democrats. Where the fuck have you been.
Read this thread. follow the thought process of people who can structure a sentence. What level are they operating on?
I can not wait for November. I hope Bernis gets the nomination. We will get a referendum on this collective level of intelligence.
Kevin Sanchez
Brody Edwards
I'm ok with Billionaires paying more.
Go fuck yourself LMAO
Henry Thompson
All I know is that, based on history, countries who's governments give greater freedom to their citizens are wealthier. When you try to predict and control such a complex thing as the economy, you're bound to make lots of mistakes. When you give it freedom it figures it all out. Now the problem seems to be, how do you deal with that when you see that this natural process, naturally benefits some people and causes wealth inequality. The inequality isn't that bad, what's wrong with someone having more money than someone else? It's maybe thought that some people might have all the money, while others barely have anything and so they suffer. But this is all just worst case scenarios made up by the mind.
I really think that corporations stand to gain more from selling to many people at lower costs (if they have the technology to mass produce, which we have) than it does from selling one suit to some guy for millions of dollars. I mean eventually the dudes gonna have a closet full of suits and maybe he doesn't want any more? Idk, what you said seems pretty logical but the mind loves to think in extremes.
Brayden Price
Yea, they were talking about the nominee. But that doesn't make sense though if you take the person who got the popular vote for the Democratic nomination, snub them, then expect the plurality who had their candidate taken away to vote on someone who had lesser overall support. If Bernie gets the majority vote and then gets robbed of the nomination, the Democratic party is dead. They will never win another election EVER if a large portion of their base entirely loses faith in their process.
Xavier Price
>Billionaires
What happened to taxing the shit out of millionaires?
Christian Cook
Dylan White
I mean, that isn't an incorrect statement. The point is though we have enough taxes already they could be spent more on the general population instead of the interest of corporations and foreign interests. Cut the military budget in half and we're still outspending the next country, and it frees up 300+ billion a year for M4A, Green New Deal, funding for social programs. College and Trade Schools can already be paid for with a few cents tax on stock exchanges, and that would have the extra benefit of steadying out the stock market since people will have to make more considered exchanges instead of doing it for free.
Dominic Fisher
Sanders supports Chinese Communist Capitalism. Even the Communists had to resort to capitalism to gain wealth, LOL.
wsj.com
Ethan Lee
What do you mean? They'll get more in tax too. Bernie's tax plans haven't changed just because he wrote a best selling book.
Brayden Myers
Nobody should have his amount of money.
Levi Roberts
Wow lol, i get your point now. They really need to get rid of the electoral vote.
Christopher Williams
Well, it isn't wrong to give credit to countries like China and Russia for their absolutely mad-lad economic growth. They came with great individual costs though. You have to be able to identify the strengths and weaknesses of other political systems in order to further evaluate your own.
Christopher Bennett
Whatever commie, us democratic socialists are okay with millionaires as long as they pay their fair share. We don't believe the government should seize the means of production. Our philosophies aren't Marxist. A commie like you wouldn't understand.
Cameron Johnson
>calls me a communist
Jose Nguyen
>communist
Jose Sanchez
Well, you better be ready to eliminate the top 10% of the population then.
Think about it though. How did he acquire that money? He didn't exploit peoples labor. He provided a product that people willingly went out of their way to purchase. The thing he talks about are people that amass great wealth at the detrimental expense of others; cheating them out of their labor value and basically not providing them benefits they deserve. If at the end of the day, a billionaire owns a company that has all it's workers being fully compensated the value of their labor and without the detriment of the population as a whole, they deserve their billionaire status. There isn't anything wrong with having wealth if you aren't fucking people over to get there.
Aiden Barnes
When you study economics, there have been a number of times in history where entire economies are destroyed.
Wealthy and poor alike are devastated. Everybody is at zero.
In less than a generation the new wealth is distributed nearly identically.
The previously wealthy are then the new wealthy and the poor are still poor.
Manipulation of populations has never worked without the most extreme totalitarianism.
Joseph Brown
>commie
Nathan Long
>Nobody should have his amount of money.
Can you blame me commie?
Andrew Wright
I see, so you don't know what a communist looks like. Too young? Probably. Sanders knows though, and he speaks against them.
James Howard
The electoral vote is something else entirely. It basically says "Since you live close to other Human beings, your vote is worth less". It is an old system that helped incentivize candidates to go campaign out in lesser population areas, since to win you only really needed to campaign in the highly populated areas to get the most votes by far. Now though with the advent of the internet and social media and such, anyone can stay informed politically if they just spend a little time to research candidates. We don't need the electoral college anymore, and all it does is provide people the chance to essentially steal an election against the popular vote since certain places have people's votes worth more than other people.
Blake Jenkins
What if I told all you commies and socialists, that communism, the perfect ideal is inevitable, but it will not come about by force. It will only came about by setting life free. Have faith that human endeavor is rooted in love and it will inevitably lead to where we want to go.
Elijah Perez
>He didn't exploit peoples labor
you can not 'exploit' peoples labor if they ask for a job.
Parker Cox
>so you don't know what a communist looks like
It's literally there, in the picture, in black and white and you're too fucking retarded to comprehend it. Holy fuck
Nathaniel Perry
The goal of socialism is to seize the means of production thus bringing about communism. The goal of democratic socialism is to mitigate the corruption inherent in our overall superior economic system.
Robert Jones
Matthew Adams
I'd call you a Marxist.
Isaac Collins
Even Snopes admits this is true.
snopes.com
What a bunch of faggots on this board!!
Zachary Cooper
Right there in black and white is misleading rhetoric devoid of significance. The blind one here is you. That's why you can't see my words and rather assume that they come from ignorance. I understand your perspective just fine, I'm a moderate not a bernout. Maybe you could make an effort?
Leo Young
>democratic socialism
Jason Harris
They don't care, they're too fucking stupid.
William Myers
Based on history, top tax rates have fallen dramatically over time. We're not talking about taking things into new and uncharted territory, we're simply talking about stopping the trend of increasing amounts of wealth and power being concentrated into an ever fewer number of hands. "Freedoms" do not need to be lost, you already have taxation and you already have government spending. We're just talking about tweaking the numbers, and not even in new ways.
As far as healthcare goes, Americans need to understand that the reason your healthcare is more expensive than anywhere else in the world is because you currently have a huge middleman industry dedicated to actively exploiting a population who have no choice but to pay whatever price is placed on their own lives. You are getting gypped, because the free market allows you to be gypped. A proper public health service allows for that entire expensive ambulance chasing insurance industry to be cut away like pus out of a wound. You don't have to pay for any of that adminstrative bullshit and you will be richer for it as a country.
Your observation that Bezos can only buy so many suits is correct, and it's the reason why you'll see better economic growth in an economy that can provide moderate wealth to a large number of workers, rather than obscene wealth to one baron who will invest it rather than spend it. Enriching the average worker boosts local businesses, restaurants and services, it creates more jobs and it creates those jobs in your own country. Another billion in a fat cat's mouth will probably only benefit the Canary islands and the London stock exchange.