Has anyone tried MDMA or E for depression? Tried of the same ol shit. I want a lil change

Mushrooms is the key to curing depression.
I've been self medicating with them for over a year now and in the first week I noticed a major difference, no more suicidal thoughts or impulses to murder random people. I'm genuinely happy these days and it doesn't feel like a lie like mandy does if that makes any sense

it may exacerbate chronic depression since MDMA causes your brain to release dopamine

heavy and frequent users will experience the negative side effects

if you honestly want to self-medicate your depression your best bet is probably a small dose of a psychedelic like mushrooms, a chill place to do it when you don't have to rush anywhere or worry about anything, and a desire to think about what's driving your depression

you can’t get md in the uk? you must be joking, or you live in the middle of nowhere. just buy it off the internet anyway

How can hallucinogens treat depression?

dude mdma is meth and mda justsmoke weed if you're going toself medicate. I mena thatd be hard core as fuck and my buddy used to do that.

If you ever tried it, you know that is not just a terrible idea, but an incredibly stupid one.
your brain will be totally depleted of dopamine, and you will feel more shitty and depressed than ever the day after. Dumb fuck.

he was replying to the oxycodone post

thats absolutely not true, I was depressed for 15+ years and the first time I did MDMA I saw how awesome life can be, since then Ive lost 50lbs and honestly its given me more than any antidepressant has and it had lasting effects for about a year after

they can change your outlook/view on things

>justs moke weed
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Not MD I can get that shit any time, oxycodone I can't get unless it's under a different name over here like with a lot of prescription drugs

fuck im retarded my bad. ive only seen oxys in london of garbage street dealers which i would never trust

That’s why I’m afraid to try them. It seems to me that this can change me not for the better.

they open up your mind to new thought patterns and also allow you to disengage from yourself and look at your life and self from a more neutral position, so the things you are deeply concerned about from one angle might end up being no big deal when you consider the rest of the problem from different perspectives

there are scientific studies showing it but those are part of a formal therapy program, but if you do some mushrooms, even just a small dose and spend some time thinking about your life and everything else you can change your own understanding of your reality

Only take at a massive rave or even a club. Dont take on random weekend, you just end up in someone kitchen talking shit if you're lucky! Amazing drug tho

It's not about the hallucinations that's just a bonus if it does happen (it's not a guarantee you will get trippy visuals) but it helps shift your perspective on things along with actually helping fix the chemical imbalance in my brain as I'm clinically sad. One of the pharmas is working on a antidepressant based off shrooms

>chemical imbalances
well what do you suggest? Docs?
I mean don't want to get much into details because hurrdurr retard or whatever and im not necessary looking for a "cure" I'm just tried of feeling the same weed high, alcohol drunkness, one in a blue moon the coke high. Like I said, been a shit year of just thoughtless overthinking a scenario and not coming insense with myself.
Like refined Xanax bars times 10 and being able to remember

in my experience, adverse reactions tend to only come from large doses

This is a drugs thread so I just thought we are all high which is why no one has called anyone a faggot yet. That's why I can't get it here because I don't trust that kind of shit off of a street dealer and none of my regular dealers can get them

just take a gram of dried mushrooms and you won't really be tripping, but you can get the same mental clarity and elevated mood

probably good to note that ket also has antidepressant properties, there’s a pharmaceutical made out of esketamine (an analogue or some shit) used to treat clinical depression

Actually I have never tried xanex either, I've tried to get yanks to send me some xanex and oxycodone to try but none have come through for me

daily reminder to stay safe and know your limits when taking drugs

I know about ket but I could never do it again, I spent a solid 6 months on that shit and it nearly killed me. Its used as a fairly common treatment here by the NHS

I understand the comedowns can be shitty. But I have tried MDMA twice and haven't yet felt like I was rolling or just in tune with music or vibes etc.
tried like 1.5g first time and I was having a good one. Second time just fucked me up, never again. Not much visuals I was just stuck to the kitchen floor for 6+ hrs even pissed myself.
My self medications so far have involved alc and weed. I tried xanax 7 months ago and it did not end well like always. I fuckin pop those lil fuckers like skittles.
Fuck man Idk at this point its a gamble. I have at least 1 good day out of the week. good day means when I don't think of blowing my shit off at the end.

xanax sucks, got it a couple years ago from someone at my college, i forgot what happened for the whole day and woke up at 4am in a gypsy field

DO you you even feel the come down a this point? I smoked crack for four years and I wouldnt come down. Id be upset without weeed but thats normal for a pot head. SOme people dont come down since theyre down is rock bottom. If theres no come down and you dont see ourself spiraling into the deph with it I dont see a problem.

Xanax is only good if taken maybe 1mg max with drinks etc to hang. or 2mg with weed.
anything after that and you're not in control.

took 50 (2mg) bars during a 36hr period. Started Friday, woke up Wednesday night. Don't remember shit. I thought It was Monday.

why has no one pressed mdma in the monopoly red hotel shape?

Yes.

MDMA, you will like it too much.

Shrooms, maybe bad trip, you will feel better for a few months.

If you go for anything than shrooms, but better go for less than more. Hallucinogenic bad trips are very very uncomfortable, especially overdosed. Nd take a experienced trip sitter

Isnt Ketamine supposed to be the way to go for depression?

dude: one of the well known side effects of E is feeling sad, down, depressed, etc.

go ahead and take it and know that you will feel much worse in 24 hrs.

You ever try working out hard for 3 months o most every day for 3 hours say bye to your depression or at least a real inpomen

well to put it simply yes to all other drugs that aren't alcohol. I can drink everyday and not have a hangover. Like my oxy and alc comedown sucked a bit but I wasn't more depressed than I was before

For me hallucinogenics always feel like my brain is going overclocked and I compute things much faster. Like I skipped a year of thinking about my problems. Unless the last time, I took first time acid and I took anxiety out of that trip.

OK so I'm not missing out on much then, oxy is the one to go for? When it comes to stuff like that I've only had experience with pain killers like gabapentin which was like being on coke without any of the downsides

I tried nearly every drug with depression. I don't have them anymore. What helped me was actually not taking drugs anymore and doing sports and eating healthy. Think about what you want and how to reach it. And then take little steps. Also take vitamin D supplements and go every day for a walk at fresh air for 30min.

Drugs are really nice, but you beat your depression with self-improvement and by learning that you can shape the world the way you want it.

Use psychedlics for events not for states of mind. MDMA can help you through traumatic memories or periods. Psychedlics can help you think in new ways. Research everything first and understand your best methods for harm reduction as well as use.

Some people do have breakthroughs on these drugs. If that happens wonderful. And keep your mind focused on the long goal regardless. Which is a consistent worldview of you in the right place, according to how things should be, which is as they are, in the felt present moment.

I recommend reconnecting with yourself within nature, and fellowship with others, then carrying those new memories with you into all your days from then on.

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I wanted to try E with my wife before but didnt have a reliable source, so I've stuck to weed.

6 yrs ago I was /fit/ mode. good tunes and a runners high was all I needed shit was so cash. So I understand what you mean. I work with steel all day long, lifting, carrying,loading etc. 8hr days and haven't yet felt that high once. Wish I had more strength to then maybe to some good dedicated lifting or running again.
xanax is good for ..well..anxiety. you can go up to a chick and somehow the words flow out your mouth to get her number or set a date up. But just the right amount. That sense of fuck yeah and the high is addicting as fuck. And thats where people fuck up. Downsides with xans are the shitty fuckjing withdrawals , gotta really taper down and be monitored in case of seizure

Benzos are like being drunk but without your body is drunk. You know that feeling when you are drunk but not feeling dizzy or intoxicated? Like after 4 beers. That's like benzos. It's a more clear and focused drunk.

Opioids are like you lay in bed with the person you love after you had sex. Opioids is more or less love. But it's pretty addictive because such nice.

Mdma is like being in love. Like when you talk with very good friends in a good mood or you met someone and you fall in love with him and you have that exciting feeling that you really deeply like him.

Just my 5 cents.

It can help but it's temporary. If you do a shitton you'll feel horrible the next day. If you stick to 120-240mg you'll be fine.

DUde dugs are differnt for every person. no experience is the same unless you're talking about a shared halucination. Benzos make me pass out at any dose. morine makes me feel awake and relaxed. Idk here you get these happy feelings from down. For me they just postpone phsysical pain.

That's some good value for 5 cents
I'm just trying to get my head round why Americans seem to like oxy and xanex so much when MDMA, coke, weed, DMT and everything else you can think of that's not meth or heroin just seems more fun, especially after what I've read from you guys tonight

I used to be really healthy.Never drank. Never smoked. Ran 4 miles everyday, lifted every other day. Ate my good ol .75g per lb I weighed. Took my sups like a religious man. Up until 2014 when shit just starting going downward and it hasn't stopped since. ive cut down on alc and most bullshit. But now im just trapped again with my depression.
>MDMA can help you through traumatic memories or periods
This is pretty much what im looking for. Im focused on what I want, and its to be free of these repeating thoughts. I convince myself ive overcome them but right before I sleep or right when I wake up, their there to fuck me once more.
IMO this is exactly how I feel. Since im an alc I would usually take 2 bars and drink maybe a 6 and be set for the entire night, but since im an alc, I also couldn't stop drinking or popping them. My oxy experience felt like that tbh I just laid there feeling satisfied for idk what reason, but I realized it felt to good and it was only a one time try.

I have found you either like opioids or you don't there's not much middle-ground. They make me itchy and hot (slight allergic reaction probably) so they're on my list of worthless drugs like meth and pcp and crack.

opium for some reason is totally different from all other opioids for me though. shit's cash

Yes, it didn't work and made me so much worse in the long run. Also started a drug problem which I'm still having a hard time kicking

Dont take it at a massive rave or even a club. Take it in your kitchen with your two best friends.

You will forget but only while you are high, that's the catch with mandy because for every bit of happy she gives you, she takes it back tenfold the next day. The last time I tried to top myself was because I was on a heavy comedown and my dumb ass couldn't cope

Actually read today about how LSD’s can help rid you of anxiety, depression, and chronic pain. It was on a reputable search engine site but we know these days how some of that goes, so not sure how much vetting was involved.

only times ive ended up in a kitchen spitting the shit with some bros has been on alc and coke. Straight till sunrise. Im sure I wouldn't be able to handle the comedown now without a xanax or someshit to fully sleep it off.
Well last time I tried it was probably 5 years ago and they've only been MDMA caps and not really a comedown just like a groggy feeling and gone after breakfast and shower , but you're saying if this is the real shit ,then make it worth it?

So what happened when you got depressed? For me my depression was triggered by being leaved from my gf 10 years ago. Haven't found someone new for longer than a month since then. Idk, I would wish someone to live with but I'm okay with being alone now and I think I learned alot for my future gf.

You need a speedball injection mixture of heroin and coke without too much coke--most people use way too much coke.

Well from 2014-19 I was mostly happy because I had a good gf but didn't feel like I was doing my best at being a man. I wanted more , but drugs and alc, and well being in a relationship brought everything to the mix. I quit my bullshit and got myself together in 17. At the beginning of 2019 she left me. For someone else. And mind you this was at the point when I had my shit together and was being a responsible adult. Shit took a blow. I find some new chicks here and there, but can't make any solid connections. I have learned a lot , but lately I can't shake this shit

I don't touch caps or pills it's just straight MDMA crystals for me which you wrap in a rizla and you bomb that shit. Used to do about 2g a bomb and maybe 3 or 4 in a night so I used to get cunted. I remember going for a piss and the moment I got my dick in my pants after finishing and I just collapsed, the horrible bit was that when I fell it felt like I was falling for hours.

The come down after nights like that would last most of the day if not two but the thoughts going through your head are toxic and disturbing so if you were in a bad head space with a lot of toxic thoughts before hand prepare for a shit show in your head

That would be an interesting one as a low dosage of LSD like sub threshold probably does have some benefits but who wants to do acid without seeing shit. If shrooms have antidepressant qualities then why not acid?

I get similar comedowns like that but off shitty coke id be buying and being on a 3 day alc binge.

You ever talked to someone about it? For me it helped just to say it to my doctor. Was like half of the job.

Please don't, they can damage the serotonin receptors.

Don't have a doc. But last time I went to the medical clinic I asked if they can treat for depression or anything and they asked "you're depressed??" well no shit im asking for help. They simply said to contact a specialist or someshit and never spoke about it again. It took a lot for me to ask, and haven't asked since then. I've mostly tried to deal with it by doing more exercise (even if I do 8hr manual labor) and getting better. cutting the alc to maybe twice a week if im lucky.
Literally what helps sometimes is talking to random people on the internet

I need a way to find some near me.

The kind of darkness that just seems to cling to your mind after MDMA is nothing compared with coke and booze, it's just normal prang shit with coke and thinking your friends are now your enemies or other stupid shit. The mandy left me thinking about really vivid and detailed ways of killing myself and others, complicated murder suicides and shit like that or if you are high up you will sit on the edge just wanting to jump. The worst bit is you feel like you can do it so thank fuck I'm not a yank otherwise I would have gone for the nearest gun. I'm not describing it that well but tbh it's fucking hard to put into words other than mandy make you sad sad

Depending on where you live you can just pick them at the right time of year. I can go into the woods by my house around November before first frost and pick a few KGs if I get there before the pikeys do

You should tell one good friend, that's what my doctor told me. I didn't do it, but you should do. You are probably stronger than me. Also you feel bad now, and that's okay, but that feeling will disappear. Don't let depression comfy you. Keep fucking the depression. Little steps are always good. Also don't drink alcohol alone. Go out with your friends. It's important to do the exact opposite of what depression wants you to do. But at same time don't be too hard to yourself.

I can't give you an exact solution, but life is too short to have sorrows.

Quit being such a faggot Millennial, go stock up on booze, weed, and cigarettes like a real Man. Beat your "wife" for not picking up winning lottery tickets if you're still feeling gloomy.

If your coke makes you feel dirty then it's not coke, or you've been sucking dick to pay your dealer and should switch to something cheaper like meth. Or just go huff some paint.

That's why you use chewing gum with cocaine you retard

Coke in the UK gets cut with bass and all sorts of other shit so it's never any good and you feel the speed way more, that's why I like to wash it up or buy rocks and smoke it so no speed and you don't get a nasty comedown either

Mushrooms are easy as fuck to grow. You can buy the spores legally online.

Don't think your reply went unnoticed. I just don't know how to reply. You are correct. But this got me thinking.

If you want to "medicate" your depression with drugs do acid or shrooms.MDMA fucks with your dopamine receptors big time.You might be the happiest you've ever been for a few hours but after that you'll probably be a sad raging faggot for a few days.

That's not how MDMA works.

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In the motherfucking WB.....

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Yeah the article talked about low controlled moderate low dosages to help rid of depression and anxiety. It talked about how a woman had chronic pain brought on by Lyme disease and had to constantly take pain killers and did other drugs. She was hanging out with a friend and thought what he had was cocaine so she snorted it and it turned out to be an LSD. She accidentally took 5x what is needed for a normal 12 hour trip. Her trip lasted 36 hours with long periods of black outs and violent vomiting. After she came down she had no chronic pain, any dependency or withdrawal of pain killers or other drugs. Article stated happened to her back in 2015, so about 5 years no issues.

Sorry 550 times the amount.

www newsweek com /woman-550-times-normal-lsd-dose-cocaine-1489045

When going 5x the dose you would have to start asking MK ultra scientists for answers. It just goes to show we know fuck all about this as a species so maybe it's the key to fixing issues deep rooted in the brain

550x*

Exactly. Brain is a lot more complex than we may ever know.

It will, in the long term, make the depression much worse dont do it.

I want to know what her trip was like, she must have literally seen the entire universe flowing around her