How do I get out of incel hell? I'm 23 years old, white, 5'7", in pretty decent shape (I take care of myself)...

How do I get out of incel hell? I'm 23 years old, white, 5'7", in pretty decent shape (I take care of myself), and don't have a lot of money. But women simply do not respond to me on dating apps, and when I go to bars and clubs with my friends, women just ignore me, or they friend zone me. Also, is the "incel" thing really just a meme? Or is this a reality that men actually face, and a reality that I will have to face for the rest of my life? If so, then holy fucking Christ this is going to be a painful and long existence...

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It gets better as you get older. Stick to venues or places that allow you to actually talk to the girl. I'm 5'6" and had limited luck at bars. I did great where I could actually sit and chat.

kys manlets

You can be SURE that there are people here had either no relationship or at least 5 year dry streak at the LEAST....

I think it all depends on you and your surroundings.. you is how approachable you are, what kind of vibe you show (ask your friends' honest opinion on how they see you, or what kind of impression they would get from you if you were a stranger), are you more outgoing and actively approaching or are you the more laid-back... surroundings, they matter... you should go to places comfortable to you that can actually gain you a relationship... some women just look to have fun... some don't.. some would just like to chat and see where it goes... if you think your surroundings prevent you from getting anything substantial its time to find other venues....

Trust me, I've thought about it. And I know that height plays a huge role in relationships, especially nowadays

spotted the lanklet assmad that his "superior height" hasn't given him any better luck with girls because he's still an awkward ugly fuck lmao

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i dunno man, im the same height but 26, fucked 5 girls, been in 2 rls that lasted both 2 years, currently have a fling with a cutie
also lost my incel status at 18
just play it cool, get drunk, be fun, and dont give a fuck about your height

Fuck your height... just be consistent... it shouldn't stop you man, you should never think that height is the problem.. girls don't just look for physical attributes... social behavior, body language, abilities, hobbies... once a conversation gets going all of that can shine... while height can be a problem because of stupid expectations, just like most men expect the same of the other sex (just think about things you would consider awful for a girl to have and how many are actually like that and suffer from such prejudice)... so there's prejudice.. but you can break the barrier, be consistent and if there's no luck change the location.... or look to improve yourself somehow(if that's the actual problem... asking others for your impression on them is helpful... just don't post your pic here or anywhere pls... ask your actual friends).

Once you think you're an unlucky incel... that's where you get into a VERY BAD LOOP which will ruin your point of view and women will pick up on it.

Thanks for the advice, and no, I would never post my pic here... Not stupid enough to do that. Also,regarding what you said about changing location, where should I go, and what difference would changing my location make regarding women? I live in New Hampshire by the way.

Lower your standards. Girls at the club came for the same reason you're there. You have to actually talk to them though, they will not come up to most guys. Find the ugliest girl that you would be willing to be seen with and talk to her. If she doesn't respond, find the next ugliest girl, if she also shows no interest, you have a lot to work on. The way to stay out of the friend zone is never do anything for a women unless you get something from it.(not sexual) If you give her a ride somewhere she buys you a soda, or fixes the zipper on your backpack, just something. Women are like dogs, if you do something nice for them for no reason, they will expect that every time. My wife is so well trained without knowing it, she will say "if you fix the mirror I pulled off my car(rearview pops off the ball joint cause she hangs shit from it), I'll wash your cars windows"

>midget rage

step 1: be sociable
step 2: get good looking, diverse, and interesting friends
step 3: with the new outside perspective that you have a cool friend group, you will look cool making your attraction go up

> is the "incel" thing really just a meme? Or is this a reality that men actually face
lol it is real af. i got lucky once then haven't had sex or even touched a woman in about 20 years and counting. it only gets worse.

Fucking Christ. Not trying to sound like a total pussy but reading what you just said made me extremely depressed.

you cant bitch like a women then claim you are a man

i can't give any advice on how to beat it obviously. just telling you this is as real as it gets. now i know that time i had sex was the only time in my entire life it will happen. because now i don't even try anymore because i hate women because of how they reacted towards me for all of those years.

Most heightists and people who rage and obsess about height are almost always bitter miserable failed male faggots, bisexual, or MtF men. I’ve never heard an actual woman obsess over it like these men do.

These hypocritical men can even be shorter themselves (although many are taller too) but they cope with their disease and with their abnormality by attacking straight normal men around normal height or shorter. It makes them feel that they are not the abnormality which is wrong.

They are so diseased and miserable, many of the folks in blackpill and lookism communities are these types.

The actuality is these people are more abnormal and inferior to any normal straight man, hell even a god damn deformed dwarf isn’t as bad as them faggots

No worries man, I appreciate your perspective.

Find some nice escorts you bitches. Escorts are the best and they don’t discriminate, just be hygienic. it’s business to them. Skip the games.

i watch porn and stuff so i like the idea of sex but honestly after 20 years of not touching another human it would be way too awkward for me now and i would never let it happen voluntarily. so i am done with it. truly celibate.

I would beat the shit out of you if I could for disrespecting yourself like that. You don’t deserve that

This lgbt guy insults your height and you play right into his hand and just attack your own self. He is warm inside with you saying that. What a spineless man you are. You lost

>midget cope

OP here, I've seriously thought about doing that, but I'm afraid I'd get arrested. I've saved a shit ton of money and plan on going to Thailand or the Dominican Republic on my vacation to fuck prostitutes though. Although this isn't going to satisfy my urge to have a relationship with a white woman.

Go to the websites ‘eros’ or ‘tryst’ or ‘skipthegames’

Look at the statistics. You sodomites and trannies are the ones blowing yourselves to hell every day and you’re a very small population percentage

So rage all you want, you are the one who is doomed my friend. Your blind rage and trolling is due to your misery. You ain’t got nothing to offer but a disgusting uncute body and a poopy hole

How do I know if it's a police sting or not? I'm 23 man, I'm young and dumb lol. I don't want to end up with a fucking felony on my record for the rest of my life just because I tried to get some pussy.

>WAAA WAAA women ignore me and friendzone me
Why wouldn't they? What do you do to get their attention and impress them? You aren't owed anything from bitches.
Work on improving your confidence and on creating a life that women will want to be a part off.
Also maybe bars and clubs aren't your thing. Figure out what's your thing (what you enjoy) and look to meet women in that environment.

I didn't mean your living quarters... but the venues you visit... try another type of place where you can pick up women... you will be surprised by the options... and to answer where, almost everywhere is right... you can go for places where the intention is mostly obvious(like clubs) but everything is open (in how you approach them) you can try and approach but there is no foundation, no rules... and it can be hard to do so in such places.. in other occasions, like an outing with friends where you go with a group to do something specific (not the free for all at the club), you're working within a frame that promotes interaction... brings you more of chance to spark a conversation... volunteer-work(you WOULDN'T BELIEVE me if I told you how fucked up this is), meetings, conventions, pubs(yeah... I know..), hobby-related(same group of some kind of sport, gym, etc.. ), all of these are more encouraging to spark a conversation.... if you're looking for something quick... well you would find it there, but I would say more so with clubs or abnormals(everything socially awkward, which reluctantly helps you..).

>5'7"
you don't. 5'7? you're not even a man. best you can hope is to pay a prostitute to lay there disgusted at herself and you while you tell yourself you're a big boy now. kys, faggot

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lol ok midge

Sure you sissy-hypno addicted faggot... I bet you so tall your dick's a speck of dust for your eyes and you flail when there's wind.... you can't fuck since you can't see your partner's face... what a fucking troll.

insult me all you want. doesn't change the fact that you don't register at all on the male-scale

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These individuals are more miserable and in more of a world of hell than you could ever imagine my friend. Ignore the parasites. Thy will literally kill themselves in likely under a year from now.

You gonna be alright man, enjoy the simple things, I’m sure you got people who love you.

And you do, smelly fagboy?

Look for good women not lowly whores

And stop asking Cred Forums for personal advice like this, it won’t help you

like not being able to reach the cupboard and having to ask real people around you to get you a glass, or a bowl, or even worse, having to climb your little stepladder? I bet you love the feeling you get when you climb on top of your little box so you can see yourself in the mirror when you go brush your teeth

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Damn this niggas a textbook incel

Lol I know and everyone knows the real reason you get triggered over another mans height

Do your daddy and momma a favor and put a bullet inside yourself, at least faster than you were already going to. That will legit make the world a better place. Michael Jackson heal the world type shit

kek... here's your answer, midget

It's kinda homo how other dudes obsess about other dudes bodies. Never understood it.

Ignore everyone who's telling you you're never gonna get a gf because of your height or financial status, because it just doesn't work that way. I've never dated a woman so i can't give you any advice from experience on how to pick up ladies, but as a girl myself all i can say is: be funny, that's it, just be funny

m.youtube.com/watch?v=BWf-eARnf6U
Now you know what to do, fagboy. Make the world a less abusive sick place and destroy yourself.

Oh and also, 5'7" isn't even short

>Ignore everyone who's telling you
>I've never dated a woman so i can't give you any advice
boy... that's is some 900IQ shit.. kek

>but as a girl myself
tits and timestamp or fuck off, larping faggot

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you lgbtq men don’t speak for women

Why not continue watching your shitty pornhub playlist?

LOL... some people are better fetching things from high and others from low... both equally effective... next time you need someone to climb your roof and replace some tiles since your house is leaking... don't ask all those "small" guys that get the job done... people like you end up doing trans-surgery cause they ain't man enough and can only hope to become a bitch sissy slut.

>be me
>make 160k / year
>white, 6 ft tall, 165 lbs
>I'm no 10/10 but im not anywhere near ugly
>own my own house

I can't even get a date. Oh well more time to drive around in my corvette I guess. It's not you my Kings, the modern female wants a 15/10 chad who has a salary of at least 5 million per year. There's nothing wrong with any of you; it's women's unrealistic expectations and shitty attitude.

Women in the workplace! I've never been a hit on the apps or in bars. But once those ladies get to know you...bam!

Ignore the heightist lankfag sissy loving jews in here. The truth is you gotta be funny and or atleast a good conversationalist. Through conversation let people discover who you are and what your set in stone goals are. If a woman finds you atleast interesting in all of those areas you are immediatly more attractive in her eyes. Remove your thought procces from thinking that women like exclusively tall muscular men cuz its objectivelly not true to most normal brain- wired women. Truth is women find masculinity attractive meaning power, status, confidence and the ability to take helm when needed. Yes its hard to be all of this but that is just another shitty societal pressure you have to endure. Good luck OP and dont let these incel bbc loving faggots in here bring you down. Its a shit situation for men in terms of dating today but i know youll come out stronger than ever.

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Fellow manlet here 5'6" 25 yo. Dont give up, I believe in you, we are all gonna make it.

The same expectations we have in many cases... all distorted... but it doesn't mean you can't find someone... consistency... don't say to me you "tried"... if you're serious about it... and not just as a secondary objective.. bet you will find one in time, 3 years max.

Ignore this guy. On paper he's fine, but there's something about a loner in a sports car that's off-putting. That and being Incelar can't help. Make 'em laugh, son, and you'll be laughing.

RIP God damn u should win an award for that roast lmao spitting some truth 10/10

Fucking right... that's why connections with people who know you, even though they could be impotent land great jobs... same with girls... the more they know you.. the higher are your chances... and it's best in a safe environment

I had a long term gf but she was crazy. Got mad at me once for taking her on a date.
I've fucked 16 women. I'm not an incel. These vapid thots just want to ride the cock carousel until some gigachad billionaire sweeps them off their feet (which will never happen)

I really do think you're hanging with the wrong people and locations... (where the thots are thriving) either that or you attract the type by flaunting your achievements, pay grade and materialistic riches... which attracts the very type you hate....

You're definitely right. I've just become sour as I age. I'm only 28 so I'm not ancient dust just yet. I hate how tons of modern women don't contribute to the world and instead take pictures of their asses and post on Instagram.

Well... unfortunate to say but they do contribute to the fappers.. can't say it's a good contribution.. but a contribution nontheless..

Yea it is. Unless you're Asian.

You need to get rich OP. Then women will use you for money and you’ll use them for sex.

My best friend is 5' 4". He makes 300k per year, married a cheerleader from pit and drives a new Porsche. What's your fake height done for you.

>coping Asian faggot detected

Ching Chong you the worst

>implying that faggot is tall

Yo he’s likely short himself, just a self hating literal fag using a coping mechanism to make himself feel relevant in his life

so touching all the midgets banding together, stroking each other, trying to convince yourselves you're actually people

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Take up running. Join some sort of running club or marathon training group in your area. More than 50% of marathon runners are female. DON'T go apeshit and start hitting on every one there. When you're doing distance training there's a lot of time to talk. Get to know some people in the club. Vow to not go one a date for at least a month. Even if none if the women in the club are available they have friends. Bonus: lots of tight asses and sexy yoga/running clothes. Last piece if advise. Keep your eyes up. Women think much of you when you talk to their tits. You can do this user.

" Said the elephant man, as he wept inside a dark gloomy room, hating life and considering suicide, he deeply knows that he's a victim but denial keeps him moving on... like the inhuman hollow he is.