Magneto

So how long before the holocaust is retconned as "the genocide" or something

Never. Magneto has been reverted to childhood and de-aged multiple times

That only works for stories going forward because he only gets deaged after X-Men fights.

Obviously a solution is to retcon in a deaging before he meets them too.

why would they do that?

It doesn't really make sense that the relatively young Charles Xavier was best buds with an ancient holocaust survivor though.

Because they already retconned Franks Vietnam past into being the Gulf war, it only makes sense that they're going to retcon this too.

WWII ended 70 years ago which means that Maggie has to be between 75-85 years old, if they keep his origin the same without retcons that means he'll end up older than what most people are when they die from old age real soon.

they de-aged him once already; even with the sliding time scale crap, he'd be 40-50 right now.

just retcon a long lifespan as a secondary mutant power.

Like I dunno, maybe he uses control over the iron in his blood to regulate his body and prevent the ailments of old age.

>Retconned

>Not Franklin Richards fucking shit up again because he doesn't want to grow up.

In 30 years or so they're gonna have to pull out a Steve Rogers freezepop style retcon. They can't just change him to Armenian or get some other imaginary genocide, the negative press would be enormous.

How about making him African? (they have plenty of genocides to choose from)

I'm so sick of Magneto. I want more of Doctor Polaris

it actually does, both men are around the same age and Xavier has also been de-aged

in fact a man at the end of his life - having raised and lost two families - and another at the end of his life seeking to pass on what he's learned makes sense

from there you just have to accept that they're de-aged before it becomes an issue

>but

one of them can literally read minds and the other one has innate control over one of the four fundamental forces of the universe

it doesn't make any fucking sense grow up

It is so fucking retarded that only the holocaust is the bad genocide. Like fucking genocides happen all the time in bosnia, with the armanians, with in rawanda, darfur, ect ect.

But remember the 6,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 goy. None of the other genocides matter. Not even the other people genocided in the holocaust

The man has been de-aged four times, and is a master geneticist. He can remain that to the end of time.

It makes zero sense. There's nothing specific about Frank's military past that defines his backstory beyond how that's how and where he learned his skills. Magneto's past is integral to defining his origins and motivations.

Eh, to be fair 'Nam and the Gulf are two 100% different beasts.

'Nam was a fucking slog. We were there for years and people in the shit were there for quite some time, and saw/did some pretty fucked up things.

The Gulf was a steamrolling. We rode in like Cowboys yippe-ki-yay-ing and blasting shit and then were done. Yes some soldiers got exposed to chemical agents and that was bad but it just isn't the same.

Keep in mind that Frank usually has a decorated history in 'Nam, as a guy that got out, and came back again and again. That fills in a lot more about his character and personal need for war than the Gulf ever could.

As far as Magneto goes, he does have to stay Holocaust. It just is the most well-known and impactful genocide to the large majority of western society, and the immediate connection it elicits with the audience is a major factor in keeping Magneto identifiable.

It blows my mind that the Rwandan genocide was barely 20 years ago and people have already forgotten it.

because the (((people who control the media))) only give a shit about the holocaust, and only like half of the people who died in the holocaust at that

Frozen in stasis by nazis that escaped to south america

I don't even know what the Gulf was, that's how much of a non-issue it is and makes for a trash background for the Punisher.

Don't give me shit about history, I'm not American but I do like what you lot do with war.

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I could easily see them giving him a healing factor.

maybe some evil nazi experiment gave it to him.

easy peasy retcon

They can retcon him into an ethnic german after Merkel and (((bankers))) complete their plans.

The holocaust has already been retconned dozens of times. One day in the future, they'll be teaching kids that billions of jews died and Hitler was a midget, had half a testicle, was a terrible artist, and was half gorilla.

I actually wouldn't mind that for a short time before it's re-retconned
Could use it to show how "tolerant" and "progressive" fucking kids and raping any un-escorted woman out after 6pm is.

Would Mag-hammed get government benefits?

>Can't even talk about Magneto without actual holocaust deniers shitting up the thread


Can we please have a comics board and jettison away from this shit?

No on in this thread is denying the holocaust happened. All anyone is saying is that there are a lot of other genocides, including ones that were part of the fucking holocaust, that people forget about because because there is a disproportionate number of jewish story tellers in western media

I for one cannot wait for Bos-neto

>Hey guys what about the other 5 million killed in the holocaust or the genocide in PR, or bosnia, or the armanians, or the various ones in africa

>WTF WHY THE FUCK ARE PEOPLE DENYING THE HOLOCAUST

Magneto wasn't even Jewish, he was a gypsy

It has been retconned

>gypsy gets power to control metal
If the holocaust didn't happen, he'd be great at stripping houses to sell their wiring/plumbing as scrap metal.

>that people forget about
> this thread is 99% people talking about them

Also, the holocaust is the most known one because western europe has been the focus of western historians since the dawn of time - with the addition of the USA when it became independent.

If you're going to blame someone, blame the education systems that are eurocentric and can be arsed to teach historical/politicale events of africa, asia and the middle east unless they are directly related to western imperialism and colonizaiton.

As Galactus explained:

"Sliding timeline, I ain't gotta explain shit"

Hey, according to their belief system, they're "special" people, so they their own special tragedy that's bigger than anyone else's.

Its remembered because as Americans we helped to stop it. Its why the Native American or any that may have been caused by US intervention is downplayed/forgotten.

Modern day genocides tend to be overlooked simply because of the politics or how they only hit 3rd world countries.

As for topic, they're going to borrow from fox and have it so the X gene slows down aging.

>holocaust
>even being taught in schools before the shindler's list came out

Wait, besides the gorilla one, we don't already say that?

The holocaust was included as early as 1962 (Europe since Napoleon), and reference to the nazis depriving minorities of their rights as early as 1952 (Europe in the 19th and 20th Century).

That's pretty quick as textbooks (meant for students, rather than scholarly work) are concerned.

Never. Being a Holocaust survivor is such an integral part of Magneto's character and motivations that removing or changing it would change the core of what he is.

>ywn read a Magneto-style Native American character fucking up the US Government and SHIELD

Eh as long as they say he's been fighting the X Men since the 80s it should be okay

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>just retcon a long lifespan as a secondary mutant power.
It's already literally officially a superpower in-universe. I don't mean "literally" as figuratively, I mean literally literally Magneto said he stopped aging because magnets can do that apparently.

That sounds like something which would have been perfect for the 1602 line.

that is truth
im murrican and i don't even remember the gulf war being anything it was such a non issue.

well then, tell us about the other people in the holocaust then. nothing is stopping you but people getting bored, but then again, it wouldn't be Cred Forums anymore

Just looked it up and it only lasted "6 months, 3 weeks and 5 days"
I'm not saying it can't be a war because it was so short, but it can hardly be anything that bad if it was resolved in such a short time.
What a load of shit.

It wasn't a war, it was just wiping out a few sandpeople.
I don't see that tying into what makes the Punisher the Punisher.

Everyone who died that wasn't a jew.
That good enough for you, (((user)))?

Armenian genocide didn't happen

Prof. X is still dead right?

They should just give him the last hurrah MGS4 Old Snake style. "Somewhere in the near future" Magneto is old, and a young dindu nuffin mutant who can't control his power got killed by Avengers. He then waged a war against Avengers and got kill. #MutantLivesMatter

Something along that line
Of course then revive him and deage him

not really

i mean, the only reason ANYONE remembers the halocost is because it was 6 mil jews right? call me when another 6 mil of a religious race are killed.

and no, sand people aren't people

Mind you, you need to take into account that wikipedia is literally run by jews and far far-left cunts, hence the 11 gorillion.

You're pretty dumb since those are all numbers from written sources. There's even a link to the source right next to the number.

>sand people aren't people
So jews don't count?

You're damn right, user.

Okay, just making sure you weren't being biased about different kinds of sandpeople.

Go back to Tumblr where you belong.

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Just give him like a second power? Like, he is the embodiment of magnetic forces or something.

> well known fact
> tumblr

???

Please tell me about how your school taught you about the work of eastern philosophers, user.

Cyclops is already Mutant Big Boss, though.

He was the golden boy hero of mutants everywhere, who killed his mentor, went crazy so he could fight a war that no-one else was willing to fight, established his own island nation for (mutant) soldiers, threatened the entire world with WMDs, and was finally taken down with the help of a younger version of himself working for the same jackasses who made the problem he set out to fight. He had a kid who ended up looking older than him thanks to weird science screwery, and he had a semi-professional relationship with a blonde pair of tits that was laden down with all sorts of baggage from the last woman he was close to, who he had to murder to save the world.

And he's absolutely based and right.

Remember the time in Uncanny Avengers where Magneto and his cohorts murdered a whole African town?

But let's overlook that becuase he's Jewish and Jewish people cannot be bad

>holocaust
>fact
Pick one, faggot.

> that reading comprehension

The fact part was referring to the eurocentrism of knowledge, explaining why the holocaust is so well known, not about whether it happened.

jfc. Maybe they DID teach you stuff at school, but you were too retarded to learn it.

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Morrison was right, fuck Magneto being a sympathetic villain because "muh holocaust"

>thread isn't about how mags is getting old as fuck (which has been explained in universe multiple times) but weird racist shit

I've never felt one ounce of sympathy for Magneto.
Having some shit go down when you were a kid doesn't excuse trying to holocaust people who actually did nothing.

>weird racist shit
I can tell you're not from 'round these parts.

>Xavier has also been de-aged
Clone body. Plus, Xavier was like on his 30's when he founded the X-Men, his powers just caused childhood hairloss.

I thought he lost his hair because Apocalypse began shaping his body to look like his.

You shouldn't joke about that when movie synergy is a thing.

>I can tell you're not from 'round these parts.

neither are these fucks, this didn't use to happen before Cred Forums and Cred Forums came.

Cred Forums was always here, user, even before Cred Forums

To add to this, they've already flat retconned Xavier's age before he got the clone body, he originally fought in Korea, it got moved up to Vietnam. That'll eventually have to change as well.

THAT'S BECAUSE YOU WERE TAKEN IN BY THE BBC! Filthy British lies! But did they ever say a bad word about Winston Churchill? CHURCHILL! With his cigars, and his brandy, and his ROTTEN paintings! ROTTEN! Hitler, there was a painter! He could paint an entire apartment in one afternoon! Two coats!

That's a good point actually. Why don't they make Magneto a Bosniak? Or even just a non-specified Balkan guy. They can keep him 'white', so it's not too jarring a change like making him Rwandan or something, and it brings it up to date by about 50 years. Everybody's happy.

Turkey pls leave.

Hi Cenk

Just have Cyclops lead the new Brotherhood and Logan the new X-Men

Will you asshats stop with this same fucking question every week?
Marvel has a dozen different immortal mutants and you pricks just can't tolerate a popular character having a canon connection to one of the single most evil acts of bigotry history has ever known, not because a really old mutant doesn't make sense, but because you don't want to be reminded of history.
It is his canon history.
The character doesn't work when you retcon it away.
Just fucking admit that real-world history is important to the X-Men story themes.
It shouldn't get whitewashed away every time someone feels ashamed of what happened.
Grow up.

This

>underage b&
>Holocaust denier who thinks it was invented by Steven Spielberg in the 90s
>No teeth

Fuck off

>Marvel retconning the holocaust
>ever

>I mean literally literally Magneto said he stopped aging because magnets can do that apparently.

I guarantee that if you went to some kind of 'alternate medicine' showcase, there someone making that exact same bullshit claim.

That's no argument.
Even if there wasn't a dozen mutant characters with more than one powerset, it's still canonical that Magneto grows stronger and healthier when exposed to strong magnetic fields.
The same principle applies with Dazzler and noise, Havok and cosmic rays, Shaw and kinetic energy, Bishop with any kind of energy, Iceman and moisture, Wolverine and beer, even Storm and the Earth's natural environment.
It's already an established thing with elemental and energy manipulation mutants.

we all know that wearing a magnetic bracelet fights the effects of old age, which is why they cost like $60 at that kiosk at the mall, and Magneto is basically a walking magnetic bracelet so ipso factoad

I'm bugged that he and Charles are supposed to be contemporaries even though Magneto must be much older than him at this point. That, and the widening gap in his history where he does fuck-all besides maybe conceiving the Maximoffs. I wish there was a convenient excuse like Captain America being frozen or Namor getting amnesia.

>Retconning the holocaust
kek

This is what Tom Brevoort actually believes.

>murdering a whole African town in Uncanny Avengers
Yooooo wat????

Do you mean the S-Man M'zee bitching about something? Cause he was brainwashed by X Skull.

I'm pretty sure the only time Mags showed up in UA was to kill Red Skull when he was in Genosha in the Skull's mutant concentration camp.