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>Adventure Time: literally a beaten, dead horse, ridiculous popularity that it garnered at the start of the decade has plummeted, fanbase is completely dead, nobody cares or even comprehends the overly bizarre and experimental episodes it's trying to do now to stay relevant; Renewed for eighth season; feature film in development

>Regular Show: Confirmed eighth season is the last. Cancelled

>Gumball: Confirmed sixth season is the last. Cancelled.

>Uncle Grandpa: Confirmed "fifth" season is the last. Cancelled (with the production crew unaware until the news itself broke public)

>Steven Universe: Only current show with genuine promise -and- good ratings, at the cost of an incredibly divisive "love it or hate it" reception and a toxic fanbase.

>Clarence: Not Renewed as of this post (likely due to creator controversy) = Not looking too good.

>We Bare Bears: Good show, that's about it. Not offensive, but not too engrossing. Feels like it's still finding its footing. Renewed.

>Nu Powerpuff Girls: Despite the massive marketing push by CN themselves in the vein of Teen Titans Go!, utterly flopping.

>Teen Titans Go!: YOUR NEW FAVORITE SHOW AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>Mighty Magiswords: Marginally good premise; bad execution; too fast-paced

>Ben 10 reboot: jesus fuck ben 10 still exists?

Thoughts? Am I just looking at this too bitterly?

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>utterly flopping.

How utterly are we talking here?

user, cartoons were literally never 100% good. You've always grown up with shitty cartoon, you just remember the diamonds in the rough.

Someone show him the twerking gif.

I'm somewhat sad to see Uncle Grandpa go. But, fuck I love that image.

>Gumball: Confirmed sixth season is the last. Cancelled
Source?

twitter.com/benbocquelet/status/773562028489314309

I gotta be honest I've enjoyed every we bare bears episode I've seen. Its soft and fluffy and thats okay sometimes. Especially these times.

Lakewood Plaza Turbo will save cartoon network.
>tfw when you see a kid's face on a cartoon on "Yoursday"

I see it as kind of a positive honestly. Just a show, doing good work, quietly moving along.

Reminds me of KotH over much of its run. It kept being made, it kept being quality, and it often did so without drawing much attention.

I prefer it to having really vocal fanbases. OP commented that SU has a toxic fanbase, but that's pretty much how I view all fanbases. They are inherently toxic beyond a certain point.

When the fuck is LWPT coming out?

Eh, as part of the SU fanbase I can't really comment on that without bias, but really works shouldn't be judged on their fans. Fans are usually really stupid people, and mobs doubly so. I agree with the koth comparison and you need stuff like that, you need balance for this. All those other shows are absolutely bonkers for the most part and you can't have insanity all the time without some routine to break it up now and again. Although I gotta be honest, I still dream that AT will be good again but at this point to me, its like watching a severely depressed man in a steel box at the bottom of the ocean. Every breathe is closer to death and he knows even if he gets out he'll still die anyways, hes given up but he doesn't have the strength to do anything but lay there and breathe.

At what point did you just lose all interest in AT?

I'm pretty sure it's confirmed to come out sometime in 2017.

When Finn grew his arm back.
I wasn't angry, I was just like
"Oh...that's it?"
Fuck that show had some potential, and I hope to shit that Steven Universe never falls into the same situation.

See my problem is theres always a few good episodes per season, but I guess six really just took me out of it. I'm sick of what they're doing to Finn, its like torture. I enjoyed stakes and some other episodes but like, they can't seem to maintain any kind of consistency and nothing good ever seems to happen.

My point is that I don't think it's uniquely bad. It's just a big fanbase.But it's not particularly worse than any other fanbase other than in size.

Breezy

The show was really going somewhere but that one episode caused the series to jump off the rails and tumble down into nothing.

I tried to stick with the show but it was never the same, and the new episodes aren't doing anything to bring me back.

...

Sexy.

Eight, six, and even five are great numbers for a show to have.
It's how they end that really matters.

...

Lowest rated show on the network bad.

Gumball is not cancelled idiot. It's ENDING. There's a difference.

Well the ratings are pretty low, i don't know if they have the lowest ones in CN, but they're low, but i'seen series with lower ratings get second season like Star vs. they keep pushing the nuPPG, but i don't know if they care about the ratings if this sells merch is a success to them

The point is that the show is no longer producing episodes.

The problem with adventure time is that it kept finn being depressed because FP dumped him, and marceline and bubblegum refuse to fuck him. If he gets a girlfriend, has a coherent storyline or atleast one thats fun to watch, and stops with the over pretentiousness ill go back to watching it.

>Clarence: Not Renewed as of this post (likely due to creator controversy) = Not looking too good.
explain?

The only thing you're wrong about is WBB being a good show. It's shit, just a toned-down even MORE boring Regular Show that will be forgotten by everyone 5 years from now. SU is spot-on, and the show's production itself has been affected by it's success in a bad way. I was into it a ton about two seasons or so in, had been watching it since it premiered, but I'm kind of fucking sick of it and it's forced love/sex/gender lessons it tries to teach. Wish it woul shut the fuck up and just tell the story it was slowly building up to instead of backtracking to background characters just to let kids know it's ok to be gay. I've taken a hiatus from it. Stopped watching after the Smoky Quarts post week filler or whenever.

Just abouut everything else is so un-noteworthy it doesn't even matter. Gumball, Clarence, Regular Show;all of these are basically meme shows. They exist to be meme'd or remembered in that same since and have a lot of 'references' in them. Like FFS I saw a Clarence episode referencing Don Bluth, that makes no fucking sense. Everyfucking thing is just a reference now and I'm sick of it. I keep thinking back to the original Last Airbender and how it kept everything fresh and even it's worst episode was a great one compared to the rest of the animation on tv. When will we get a cartoon that introduces such new things and has such an interesting premise and well written characters again? And preferably doesn't fucking go off-model every fucking scene (SU, PPG, Clarence).

Also, ending gumball this soon was totally unjustafiable. That show is the best thing CN has on it besides SU(fight me faggots), fuck whoevers idea it was to end it prematurely.

>feature film in development
It's not happening, guys. Warner Bros. hyped us up for nothing!

Skyler Page (creator) inappropriately touched a CN employee.

>Full OK KO and Long Live the Royals series: not officially announced outside of this (animationguildblog.blogspot.com/2016/03/the-animated-production-among-us-again.html) but look promising

Short story even shorter, the creator and voice of clarence was a known perv at the office, and grabbed some hot animator tush. DESU im glad they complained about literal sexual harrasment instead of making it up because "MUH PATRIARCHY".

Ben himself decided to end it.

OK KO will save cartoon kino, screenshot this.

>promising
What is promising about this. Just more video-game/anime rip off action crap with shit character design

it should be noted that the person who got touched didn't make it public, her friends did

Then they shouldve kept it on without him. Aslong as theydve kept some of the writers and the general style of the show they couldve prevented it from becoming a zombie like spongebob. also, sauce on that pic plz senpai

i haven't checked with it in years, but a week ago i asked my 9 year old nephew how he likes the show now (he was crazy about it when he was 5-6 years old, back in the show's heyday) and he tells me "it's too boring and confusing now, i can't follow the story"

really oughta tell you something when even it's target demographic is getting tired of it...

So, is that supposed to make it any different?

Because many people get rantingly mad about her not handling it internally.

>tells me "it's too boring and confusing now, i can't follow the story"
That made me feel way too much about a cartoon. Even if it was one of the major shows to get you into animation.

D-dont say that, its still happening, r-right?

>at the cost of an incredibly divisive "love it or hate it" reception

wut? almost everyone likes it or at least says it's a good show

get out of your echo chamber, you fucking idiot, everyone hates that fucking cucked out, tumblr incarnate piece of shit show

AT and RS needed to die years ago. Both of them are extremely convoluted and repetitive.
Gumball ending at S6 is better than it becoming a zombie. It's hit-and-miss ratio has been pretty bad recently too. Let us hope that CN won't try any weird fuckery.
UG lasted much longer than it should have. Should have been 2 seasons at most. All the attention it is now getting due to its cancellation just shows me bad signs.
SU definitely has its problems, but I can see why people like it. It will definitely get to its end, despite how crippling bad the episodes can be sometimes.
Clarence lasted far longer than I thought. I'm surprised that the controversy didn't shut it down immediately and I'm even more surprised that the shitty show lasted as long as it did after that fiasco.
I can't say much for WBB, other than CN fucked it over with their schedule. Why renew something that never airs?
Replicating the TTGO formula for PPG is criminal, but it's not like the original source ended on a high note. It's just a small, annoying stain that you will always notice. Nothing harmful, just annoying.
TTGO is definitely blotting the schedules. For every decent episode, 10 bad episodes are there to laugh at you. It's disgusting to see how reliant a channel can be on a single show.
Magiswords has no reason to exist. I can't imagine it surviving long, but God is cruel and unpredictable.
Ben 10 reboot doesn't look bad. It looks like a decent show for young kids these days and they'll probably enjoy it. I loved the original, but I'm not going to let nostalgia influence me to hate this show.

Basically everyone who I've met off of Cred Forums who has actually seen it likes it to some extent.

What diamonds do you see in the rough of the OP?

>everyone
>everyone

>incredibly divisive "love it or hate it" reception
Is this samefagging or beautiful pottery?

Alot of people on Cred Forums hate it because "MUH GAY REFERENCES", even while they masturbate to traps with nazi banners in their room. Really the only popular shows on CN right now are gumball, TTG(yes, its quite funny nostalgia fags), and steven universe. But since gumballs ending, aswell as regular show after some how getting funny again, there gonna need new shows to replace them. And even though mighty magiswords has a hot MC, even if its not that nad its still only filler. They need something meatier in terms of content for their channel, or theyll turn into the next nick.

Can I get some numbers here on Nu PPG? Google is failing me.

and where is this "everyone"? cause even here people who don't like it are a minority , so where am i supposed to look for its detractors?

AT doesnt need to die, only go through a rebirth. Gumballs episodes have been great lately, and have no reason to die. TTG and steven universe are great, so you and your shittaste can go fuck themselves. But i think everyone can agree the nuPPG is fucking shit.

Gtfo of here you butt mad conservative trash. Have fun being shitted on while the world embraces their sexuality you prudish modest retarded mong.

Boy that's a lot of buzzwords ya got there, kid.

They have their killer app (Steven Jewniverse) and it's really all they need, just like Nickelodeon and Spongebob.

The era where shows like Courage, EEnE and Powerpuff Girls all existing at the same time is never going to come back. That's not how the industry works anymore.

? We've moved past feels and into vines. Magiswords is too slow, TTG isn't loud enough. This is the ADD age

Different user, and not trying to be snarky, but are there any shows where the creator stepped down and the show's quality didn't suffer?

CN is going to go downhill again by 2017, similar to their 2007-2009 dark ages

I like TTG and look forward to JLA.

Gumball is a terrible show because it doesn't do anything except spam and regurgitate the following jokes over and over again:

- SCREAM TALKING
- Cross dressing jokes
- Nudity jokes but ONLY for the male characters with the censor blur.
- Homosexual moment jokes

That's all that World of Gumball is. These same jokes repeated over and over again in different types of plots. Think the only different type of episode plots is the one with the Evil Turtle or the ones about Rob. There's also romance Penny episodes, but fucking hell Gumball transforms into a seriously annoying faggot in those episodes to the point the other characters don't want to hear him gush about Penny.

And that's another thing, Gumball is a horrible protagonist. He's annoying, lazy, entitled, a jackass, retarded, and LOUD! The other characters aren't much better...

Richard - Retard
Nicole - Her main shtick is her SUPAH POWAH and that crap also got overdone and over spammed.
Anais - A less annoying Lisa Simpson.
Darwin - A less annoying version of Gumball himself

But that's not saying much at all. The show really sucks and Cred Forums kisses its ass too much even though it doesn't deserve it.

Are the numbers from a decent source? I'm not an american so idon't know where i can find the ratings of this shows

Dont say that damnit

Youve barely even watch the show i take it? Your just out to hate it because if the dumb dad trope which your MRA self cant stand, and because its bright colors are too "immature" for a sophisticated adult who drinks mountain dew and shitposts on a japanesse loli porn site. Eat a chode you grimmey little faggot.

>Nudity jokes but ONLY for the male characters

>Adventure time
They really need to wrap up the story and be done with it. The new episodes are ok, but there is still enough of that 2deep4u shit and status quo'd plot lines (see Kings ransom and They broke his crown) keeping them from being good. First time hearing about a feature film, mostly because I don't even keep up on AT stuff anymore.

>Regular show
Probably time for RS to go, can't say I'm not gonna miss it though.

>SU
They really need to get this on a regular airing schedule. The way the show is written makes it very aggravating to watch in the "bomb" format as you get a few plot episodes followed by a ton of filler episodes followed by waiting 3-4 months for another tiny bit of story.

That sucks Gumball is canceling

I thought it was pretty funny whenever it was on, not really much to complain about
I wouldn't have minded if it stayed for at least one or two more seasons

no one probably watched it because of bad time slots or for some other weird reason

>your just out to hate it because if the dumb dad trope
He is mad at Gumball and he he is right. Gumball is an unlikable piece of shit. He and his family are the worst thing about tawog Ironically, Richard is the best watterson right now

Like people said, the creator decided that it was time to end it, which I think is an okay thing to happen. Sometimes its just time to move on.

>it kept being quality
>that entire final season exists

Wow, did you fall face first in dog poop or did you always have shittaste?
It still hurts, especially when it still had so much life in it. Also, what are we supposed to move on too?

>Long Live the Millennials

Barf, why couldn't Forever Eleven have gotten a miniseries instead?

At least Full OK KO might be cool. The pilot was cool.

The great shame of white civilization is trash like you. Fortunately, Eastern Europe is still telling you cunts to fuck off.

For me it was when Jake and the unicorn had kids but the kids had accelerated aging, it rubbed me the wrong way since it was hyped as a major event and then nothing since they were barely around.

I recommend reading, or getting into music. But, really just find other things you can do. I play guitar, which is nice because hobbies like that allow for as much time investment as you can give it. Give it a go.

Oh jeeze, how will we be able to continue on in life knowing that we don't have the approval of a group so important and not full of literally whos as Eastern Europe?

Have fun while i pork your daughter and your wife fucks a black man behind your back you dickless faggot.

>Having a daughter
>Having a wife
>2016
How cro magnon of you, Neanderthal user. Go back to your block of ice and freeze for another hundred thousand years.

Fine, a niggers fucking your waifu pillow behind your back

Easy fix, I fuck the nigger while he's distracted.

>slips dick in while ooga booga isnt looking
>pssh, nothing personal kid

Bump

and receive AIDS.

That's why he got fired. The show is doing fine, it's been doing fine without him since season 1. It will get renewed eventually.

I used to think everyone was overreacting when they were talking about shoving messages down your throat but then I saw Beach City Drift. Jesus Christ what the fuck was that episode?

What's wrong with Adventure Time? How is it different from the beginning?

Adventure Time also has a season 9 and more miniseries' in development. Marceline's VA said it in an interview.

Its messages arent shoved in. Of anything its fan service as much they can sneak in there. Stop getting so butthurt and enjoy the show, without worrying about "filler".

aids typically goes the other way
and btw
>not using a condom while surprising the negro from behind.

>Go back to your block of ice and freeze for another hundred thousand years.
And tell us where the sheriff went while you're at it!

>Its a Cred Forums tries to prove that nobody cares about Adventure Time thread judt because people don't flood the board with threads like SUfags anymore

But user, Forever Elven was just a Mabel Pines expy in an even more "So Wacky" Land of Ooo clone. It wasn't original and it used general six year-old humor the whole time.

Matt Berry voicing the Buttwitch was really fuckin' neat though.

>Gumball: Confirmed sixth season is the last. Cancelled.

You fucker. Ben wanted it to end, CN never said they'd pull the plug and they might even give it another season even if Ben leaves the show.

Damn, I actually like Regular Show.

Learning that Gumball is ending just compounds the hurt.

>Damn, I actually like Regular Show.
same, season 7 was strongly better than 6

Not only that, but won't be surprised if CN begs him to continue.

He will not. And it's great. It won't become a zombie like Spongebob.

Shut the fuck up you cunt. Id rather it be a zombie and still have some jokes then have no gumball at all.

bump

WHAT THE SHIT?!

Please tell me that's just an edit

bump-o-matic

>popularity has plummeted
And a bear shits in the woods, also you're exaggerating.

>fanbase is completely dead
Could've sword we've had a few threads this week, theres on up right now. Do you miss the talkback threads we have for every episode?

>its trying to stay relevant because I say so
Ironically that statement is irrelevant.

>renewed for eighth season
And a ninth

>Dude, Initial D lmao!

Breezy. It was a real "none 'a this matters" moment.

Was it really though?

>wanting yet another rainbow 80s wackyland series
Fuck off, tripfag

Forever Eleven was fucking garbage user, sorry to admit.

The "joke" with LLTR is that it's stereotypical sitcom archetypes (fussy mom, edgy teen girl, loser teen boy, etc.) put in a medieval setting.

Also it's decently funny. The main characters are bland as hell (sitcom family archetypes are overdone, as you say), but the side characters and side moments are good enough to make the show worth watching.

Yeah, seriously

>the fanbase is dead, that means the shows no longer popular!

So fucking hype for OK KO. The leads are interesting, but there's so much potential for such a varied and waifuable sidecast.

As far as regular show and gumball goes. 5 to 8 seasons is a pretty good haul.

5 to 8 seasons is a rather large amount compared to most cartoons.

>>Adventure Time: literally a beaten, dead horse, ridiculous popularity that it garnered at the start of the decade has plummeted, fanbase is completely dead, nobody cares or even comprehends the overly bizarre and experimental episodes it's trying to do now to stay relevant; Renewed for eighth season; feature film in development
Flimsy fanbase.
>>Regular Show: Confirmed eighth season is the last. Cancelled
Shit show.
>>Gumball: Confirmed sixth season is the last. Cancelled.
Eh, it did all it could. The creators will make something better next time.
>>Uncle Grandpa: Confirmed "fifth" season is the last. Cancelled (with the production crew unaware until the news itself broke public)
They couldn't have been unaware, even non-fans saw this.
>>Steven Universe: Only current show with genuine promise -and- good ratings, at the cost of an incredibly divisive "love it or hate it" reception and a toxic fanbase.
Shitty show.
>>Clarence: Not Renewed as of this post (likely due to creator controversy) = Not looking too good.
Shitty show.
>>We Bare Bears: Good show, that's about it. Not offensive, but not too engrossing. Feels like it's still finding its footing. Renewed.
Really shitty show, marketed solely towards hipsters. Market towards someone who has money to spend.
>>Nu Powerpuff Girls: Despite the massive marketing push by CN themselves in the vein of Teen Titans Go!, utterly flopping.
Shit. It's not the 2000s.
>>Teen Titans Go!: YOUR NEW FAVORITE SHOW AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
Great show. Has merchandizing, making fun of millenials, lots of easter eggs for true comic fans, fun for little kids.
>>Mighty Magiswords: Marginally good premise; bad execution; too fast-paced
Seems poorly thought out but will probably get better.
>>Ben 10 reboot: jesus fuck ben 10 still exists?
This is what beating a dead horse looks like. Adventure Time still has legs.

this comment is ironic though right

>modern Adventure Time fanboy

cancer

>Regular Show
Okayish until Thomas "left", episodes afterwards were pretty good besides the wedding one and it actually has a proper character building arc with Rigby learning not to dick around all the time.
>Gumball
Creator wanted it to stop on his own merits
>Clarence
Decent SoL
>WBB
Carried by cute bears, great example of showing SanFran being full of hipster bubble-tea/tote bag assholes.
>TTG
Hit and miss spinoff based on a hit and miss weebshit adaptation
>Mighty Magiswords
Gateway cartoon into liking Slayers, expecting them to take a huge jab at Revolution-R if it gets renewed

the fact that it isn't that different from the beginning is the main problem, new developments are hinted to and happen and then either keep being hinted to without happening or happen and then are immediately reversed so it's back to square 1

Exactly, it's not like symbiotic Titan or generator or some other cartoons that get cut at 1 or 2 seasons.

It's probably more different from it's initial form than any cartoon in TV history. Watch Slumber Party Panic, then watch Crossover or Grables 1000. It just happened gradually so no one noticed.

>AT
It's a great season

>RS
Was great

>GB
yeah I wish it had another season but six is a lot it had a good run

>SU
Trash

>Clarence
Is gonna start up again

>Bears
still new, it's average

>PPG
was a mistake

>TTGo
Is great

>Mighty
What?

>Ben10
is gonna be PPG 3.0

man this 2000s face is not going away is it

I hate Gumball but because of Richard.

Shit taste: the post: the experience

>SU: Trash
>TTG: Great

This is possibly the worse taste I've ever seen

It's a comfy show and nothing more, which is alright.

The opposite of that is the worst

Around season 5 when not much was happening, too much randomness and focus on side characters.

>Adventure Time: zombie show with an occasional good episode but needs to die

>Regular Show: Fantastic show with a respectable run. I loved everything about it.

>Gumball: Absolutely hilarious and a masterpiece, six seasons is also respectable

>Uncle Grandpa: Hit and miss animated sketch cartoon that had a good share of great and shit episodes. I'll miss Mr. Gus.

>Steven Universe: A show that is overhyped to death but still pretty good. On par with Regular Show and Gumball in animated goodness. No more townie episodes please.

>Clarence: Wonderful show about childhood. I absolutely love the characters, world, and humor. It will be missed but I never expected it to go too long after Skyler Page had to be strapped to a bed.

>We Bare Bears: A cute little show about bears, San Francisco, and nature, but that's about fucking it. It's kind of average and I won't care if it disappears.

>TTG: Absolutely fucking hilarious. It's retarded, and it's best that way. Hated way too much.

>PPG: An absolute abortion of a cartoon. It fucks up in literally every category whether it be animation or just pacing.

>Mighty Magiswords: Looks decent. Could be fun.

>Ben 10: Why?

Don't bother man we have like 1000 drones here
There is someone defending Steven universe on Cred Forums at every point of the day

Hats the se 6 people making 100 post a minute to keep the thread alive and baiting like crazy so the poster counter goes up
There is clearly no interest in adventure time left, hell there is clearly nothing to talk about

Shame, damn shame. CN is removing all the good shows and keeping the ones people rarely care about minus UG They better renew Clarence because I actually ate my words for once about anything they aired. I thought it was going to be shit when it debuted but it wasn't. It's one of the good shows that's keeping CN afloat at this point along side WBB and TTG

I have no hopes for Ben 10. Not because of the art style, but because it's your average 11 minute time-span episode so it won't be the same. I have a feeling it'll be like TTG (don't get me wrong, I have nothing against the show but we don't need a 2.0 on the block)

It's an edit. CN is stupid, but they ain't that stupid.

>HAHA MEMES RANDUMB HUMOR SO FUNNY *AND* WE'RE SELF AWARE OF IT
Yeah man, way better than SU.
Because there is literally nothing wrong with Steven Universe unless you're a diehard homophobic, conservative bible-thumper

Getting pretty sick of people shitting on Adventure Time just because they take chances and don't spell everything out for people. Adventure Time is one of the most daring animated shows ever, and people complain bc its "trying to be deep". It's a show about growing up and coming to terms with harsh realities, plus it's still fucking hilarious and thought provoking. I dare any of you to even try to think of anything as conceptually layered as "The Hall of Egress", this single episode is better than the entirety of most of the other shows listed in OP's post.

People bitching about Finn getting his arm back in "Breezy" neglect to mention how his arm basically became an extension of the grass sword, and was utilized later to kill Orgalorg (so it was set up and then paid off later.) Motherfuckers get mad at the show because it challenges them and they say "oh it fell off", that's the dumbest shit ever. Raise your standards try to keep up with people trying to push the envelope, anons.

your own post is exactly why SU is such trash

>hahaha we're so progressive if you hate me you're Hitler!

just social jerkoff garbage

It's low, one of the lowest rating series on CN. It does much worse than Uncle Grandpa and that show got cancelled.

Uncle Grandpa last aired show on CN.

August 4th
Supernoobs
4:00 pm: 1,008,000 (0.18)
4:30 pm: 979,000 (0.18)
We Bare Bears: 1,051,000 (0.19)
Teen Titans Go!: 1,738,000 (0.35)
Steven Universe: 2,153,000 (0.56)
Uncle Grandpa: 1,324,000 (0.33)

Meanwhile when PPG came back with a new ep it did terribly for a new ep. Gumball beat it despite being a repeta ep.

September 1st
The Amazing World of Gumball: 1,029,000 (0.19)
The Powerpuff Girls: 995,000 (0.22) (Series Low)
Steven Universe: 1,357,000 (0.37)

September 19th
The Powerpuff Girls: 875,000 (0.21)

September 20th
The Powerpuff Girls: 760,000 (0.16) (Series Low)

PPG can't even crack 1million anymore, series tanked hard.

I'm glad Gumball is ending because it's ending in it's own terms and on a high note, something a lot of cartoons can't say.
>- Nudity jokes but ONLY for the male characters with the censor blur.
>He didn't see the episode where Nicole finally got naked

Its an edit. But the actual thing doesnt look that much better either

Are you insecure with yourself user? It's okay to be you. No one will judge you for being gay or transgender user

I can't fit my feet inside assholes and it hurts me

The only edit is the cig

It had been losing me for a while, but Beezy was just one stupid romance plot too many. I didn't watch Adventure Time to see a goddamned Degrassi plot.

it's these enough to kill this shitshow or what other anons say about just having to sell merch enough to keep this alive? just tell me the truth user, don't give false hopes

It got renewed for a second season but that was done early on. If it keeps getting those type of ratings would not be surprise if the second season is it's last. Also the source for those ratings was from:

toonzone.net/forums/threads/cn-ratings-thread-part-15.5340901/page-72

Flame Princess actually

I didn't expect much out of yet ANOTHER love interest and when it became obvious it wasn't going anywhere (a few months down the line) I was sure it was going to end poorly. Then fast forward to when all the characters seemed to lose their personalities and became boiled down unemotional dolls, it was clear that the show had already reached its peak with the Lich.

I really thought they were going to break away from tradition and neglect the status quo since they kept hinting that Bubblegum was going to do something terrible or drastic, but when the crew began to rely on "magic will solve literally everything" my interest started to fade quick.

Then cut ahead to Breezy and Finn's dad, everyone in the show just didn't have any goddamn emotions. Finn was just "sure, okay." Jake dropped out from being a role model/pal to being the nagging voice of reason and/or antagonizer, Bubblegum could get away with literally anything despite interfering with the Flame Kingdom's only sound method of protecting itself, Marceline became irrelevant, and Finn's dad was an infuriatingly shallow character.

Those early episodes where they actually had whites in their eyes feel like they were made a decade ago when it's only been like 6-7 years compared to what we have now. They could've gone with a more serious overarching plot where Finn is forced to deal with his emotions and mature into a warrior, but instead he became a (and I hate using this word) beta who just goes with the flow because even his writers weren't sure where he was going to go in order to progress the episode.

Thank you, so the stuff that they're airing now is not the second season is just the second half of the first one? Well i knew they order the second season before they even show the cartoon to the public i wonder if they give a fuck about the ratings they bring back the PPG to be a cash grab, anyone knows if there place to know if the merch is selling?

gumball and regular show is ending.


yet at the same time ben 10 is coming back.

don't care for the adventure time or the other shows.

Nothing makes any sense. When they are talking it's just Adventure Time lingo mixed with nonsense trying to be deep. There was one episode with Magic Man where he was spewing literal nonsense that was trying to be deep. It's all bullshit. It's not taking any chances either. It's either lesbian shipping or stupid mini arcs that go nowhere or are dropped immediately. It's stagnant. It never evolves.

Because the others channel's are good too baka

Begins the new era OP.

I can't believe there's still people out there who still care about Adventure Time and think it's "deep".

Though, I do wish the network would air reruns again, specifically the early episodes.

>Clarence: Not Renewed as of this post (likely due to creator controversy)

If the creator controversy caused the show to end, it would have been in the first season when it got cancelled.

It's likely not getting renewed due to nobody caring about it

The thing with Star Vs. is that it's on a pretty obscure channel that most people don't have, so the low views are excusable.

PPG 2016 is on a channel where it's shows get 2-3 million views on average, and it's struggling to even pull in one million.

Right at the beginning of Season 5

Fuck off man, don't kill me hope.

Sadly this will probably be true. Been a year and a half since announced and no news at all to speak of, and the crew said before they have trouble making long serialized storyline and stuff. Still a chance but I wouldn't bet on it, especially since when was the last time a cartoon had a theatrical movie?

Are we talking about Cartoon Network cartoons or cartoons in general getting films?

the last cartoon on Cartoon Network to get a theatrical film was The Powerpuff Girls in 2002, which bombed pretty badly.

The last cartoon in general to get a theatrical film was Spongebob with his 2nd movie in 2015

Oh yeah, there was Spongebob I guess, already forgot about that.

What was the next most recent one beside that? I don't think CN has done one for a long time.

I feel like you're judging the show off of images posted here. Gumball is a great cartoon and what I think episodic shows should strive to be.

How are there this many people here still liking Regular Show? Been boring for years now. Thank goodness they're trying to mix things up with the new season but it's still been so dull for the past few seasons.

Regular show gained a threaticalmovie to.

Why are all of the good cartoons dying at the same time? Gravity Falls started it, then suddenly half of CN is ending, Wander of Yonder canceled.. What's next?

That was an online only movie wasn't it?

We're in season 2 and season 3 was already comfirmed user

Fiona and cake's first episode. None of the jokes really hit.

>not loving that rape joke
>or Ice King being a fanfic writer
some good stuff in there, the second one was where they went from trying to be funny to cashing in on that sweet fangirl money.

That was a TV movie

Alright the fanfic part got me I'll admit, but the rape joke felt half finished and rushed.

When did Bubbles become Him?

Steven Universe

>Wander of Yonder canceled

literally the best thing to happen to cartoons this year

To the point where we stopped making threads about it. It's THAT bad.

This. Based Steven triggers Cred Forums and it pleases me

Basically all this.
I actually liked the last Ben 10 but man of action needs to stop
Or make something new like generator x or something

>>Adventure Time: literally a beaten, dead horse, ridiculous popularity that it garnered at the start of the decade has plummeted, fanbase is completely dead, nobody cares or even comprehends the overly bizarre and experimental episodes it's trying to do now to stay relevant; Renewed for eighth season; feature film in development
sad, once the most popular thing in popculture, now it dies a fadding death
>>Regular Show: Confirmed eighth season is the last. Cancelled
its having a more dignified death than AT, at least it gets with an ending rather than just not being renewed
>>Gumball: Confirmed sixth season is the last. Cancelled.
glad it ends while its still good instead of a fadding death
>>Uncle Grandpa: Confirmed "fifth" season is the last. Cancelled (with the production crew unaware until the news itself broke public)
sad, but suprised it lasted as long as it did
>>Steven Universe: Only current show with genuine promise -and- good ratings, at the cost of an incredibly divisive "love it or hate it" reception and a toxic fanbase.
bleh, but at least CN cares about one of its shows rather than being the Teen Titans channel
>>Clarence: Not Renewed as of this post (likely due to creator controversy) = Not looking too good.
i doubt people still care about that, but i doubt people still care about the show

>>We Bare Bears: Good show, that's about it. Not offensive, but not too engrossing. Feels like it's still finding its footing. Renewed.
i don't see the show getting any better than it already is, its cute... but its untimely inoffensive and the peak of "alright" sitcom level stuff. its only down hill from here, as time goes on its just gonna suffer from repeated plot lines, flanderization, and seasonal rot
>>Nu Powerpuff Girls: Despite the massive marketing push by CN themselves in the vein of Teen Titans Go!, utterly flopping.
what happens when execs make a show, the writers and artists just won't care
>>Teen Titans Go!: YOUR NEW FAVORITE SHOW AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
it isn't even a CN original which is the worst part...
>>Mighty Magiswords: Marginally good premise; bad execution; too fast-paced
is it really a good premise? the show suffers more than from its pace and execution....
>>Ben 10 reboot: jesus fuck ben 10 still exists?
after how CN just dumped Omniverse like they wanted to be done with it, i'm surprised too

Nah it aired on tv too

>that moment when pale blue eyes starts to play

So you haven't been to the talkback threads? Alright

>Adventure Time: zombie show with an occasional good episode but needs to die

>Regular Show: Fantastic show with a respectable run. I loved everything about it.

>Gumball: Absolutely hilarious and a masterpiece, six seasons is also respectable

>Steven Universe: A show that is overhyped to death but still pretty good. On par with Regular Show and Gumball in animated goodness.

>TTG: Absolutely fucking hilarious. It's retarded, and it's best that way.

Are there any decent pilots being taken up?
Damn it I don't want to lose CN too, I'm not even over Nick being lost yet.

>its having a more dignified death than AT
>Hasn't been good in years and people have literally forgotten about its existence which isn't a meme like AT people don't even know its still on
>CN burning through episodes ala Omniverse

>PPG 2016 is on a channel where it's shows get 2-3 million views on average
Yeah...3 years ago, nowadays most shows on CN barely crack 1.5 million viewers and the only show that gets consistently 2 million is TTG

>man this 2000s face is not going away is it
It's a 2010s face

Why is it so apparent that most AT detractors are retards who dropped it ages ago and just parade shit Cred Forums states?

>tfw I hate all these shows
Gumball is the only one that doesn't look like shit thou and has impressive art style/animation but it's comedy sucks donkey ass

Still have the lowest ratings in the channel, how can the We are bears can be more populat than the nuPPG?

I couldn't keep watching it, the story writing was really weak and aimed towards kids, as it should be.

>Still have the lowest ratings in the channel,
That title goes to Clearance and even then NuPPG is merchandise focus so all it really have to do is push a product, they'll pull the plug if the show can't even do that right.

> NuPPG is merchandise focus so all it really have to do is push a product, they'll pull the plug if the show can't even do that right

This is the thing i want to know, this thing was created to be a cash grab, so they probably don't give a fuck about the quality of the show and the ratings, but there a way of know if this thing is selling merchandise?

>, but there a way of know if this thing is selling merchandise?
Until we get a sales report of the revenue no but if they keep quiet after a year or so then it probably means the sales aren't good.

the end of Regular Show is at the very least having the creator take part in it
Penn doesn't even care about Adventure Time anymore

>but if they keep quiet after a year or so then it probably means the sales aren't good

What do you mean with quit haven't they pushed this show in every social media? or how they edited their comic con panel in their channel when in reality the place was silent and no one gived a fuck

You say that... but you obviously don't know what your getting yourself into

Sure he doesn't, that's why he's dedicating all his time to working on the AT movie.
Pen cares about the show, he just can't handle being in charge of everything that's related to it.

>Steven Universe
>Good ratings
Just decent ones m8

UG is a terrible show though. I don't know why so many people defend it.

WBB has gone downhill past the first couple episodes. It's not worth watching anymore.

NPPG and TTG are basically on life support. For some reason CN still believes in their ability to make bank

Who unironically thinks AT is deep? The show explores mature themes, but that doesn't make it deep. People have been caring about south park since the 90's, why does a show still having a fanbase for over 6 years surprise you?

>lingo mixed with nonsense trying to he deep
I can give you only three episodes that even meet this statement, and all were in season 6: Breezy, Astral Plane, and The Comet. But somehow these three episodes represent the entire show.

>Lesbian shipping
There has yet to be any romance user, its shipping fuel, and there's about four episodes that have a decent amount. "What Was Missing" "Sky Witcy" "Varmints" and "Broke His Crown." Some honorable mentions would be "Take Her Back" and the beginning of "Checkmate." The latter two aren't as focused on bubbline.
>goes no where and immediately dropped
Go on.

>never evolves
>ignores the fans that stopped watching due to a change in tone and focus
Sure thing lad

We've been on hiatus for the past three months, do you want us to talk about the lack of new episodes?

>Unironically liking Uncle Grandpa
What's it like having shit taste?

Yes. Yes it was.

>is it really a good premise?

I think so. Although I do agree with OP in that it's a little lacking in execution. It could've been a Xiolin Showdown-esque show where they actually hunt down the swords against evil, but that rarely happens. I still don't think it's bad though.

>When Finn grew his arm back.

this

and when they got Betty in the present time.


and the only thing kinda good was Stakes, but fuck i use to love this show and that's makes me even more sad

What's wrong with the final season? Had some real loose ends tied.

I dont think you know what being "cancelled" actally means

Where are we on Long Gone Gulch?

>actually going back to carefully read OP's post
>All shows he says are being cancelled are being cancelled
I don't think you know what being "cancelled" actually means

dude i gonna be be eternally mad about mods deleting /svtfoe/ and having 4 threads about /su/ but i love the show and i don't know how 3 faggots that hate tumblr are suddenly everyone

So, by your words, Spongebob is justified for still existing?

If they were canceled, they wouldn't be airing any new episodes, even if they are already produced.

Definitely during the Betty episode. I was only watching AT for the lore back then so yeah I was already on the edge of dropping it because of Finn's boring episodes. The Betty episode was the last one I hyped for.

Last episode I watched was Huntress though because it had the long awaited fan favorite.

>not liking Ben 10

how much of a shit taste pleb are you

Finn's arm was literally that important? It's not even done yet.

The importance wasn't the arm but the writers deciding if they should go break the status quo or go back to pretending none of that actually mattered.

Think of it like Ice King finally getting closure only to be resurrected into his S1 mentality.

I fell off a while before the Flame Princess stuff because I stopped watching TV a lot, but I got hype for the whole "Finn's Dad" thing. Deep down I knew it was going to be super lame, but when it did exactly what I thought it was going to do (nothing) I just got fed up and quit. I recently watched the newest Card Wars episode and loved it, but I couldn't care less about the show any more.

AT: There are diamonds in the rough
RS: Same three plots - the show! Wasted potential
GB: Pretty fun, glad it's not doomed to run forever
UG: Legitimately sad. Way underrated
SU: The only CN show I really care about now
CL: Haven't followed it enough to care
WBB: Comfy, not much else
NPPG: Garbage.
TTG: Rough at first, but pretty funny
MM: Voices are awful, art is awful
B10: Don't care - have never cared

appearently the execs pressured them into maling Finn's arm loss to only be temporary

marketing reasons an all that
have to keep the character design consistent

That is the thing with networks tho
They will never approve of too many lasting drastic changes to the status quo, because it limits the possibilities of the show's re-runs
They prefer airing the episodes in whatever order they please, without being limited by petty things like continuity

I hope adult swim takesnover SU and makes it more... Mature?

Imagine SU without the kids' show barriers up

Oh so it didn't matter, you're just rustled the writters didn't give Finn a robotic arm got it.
[citation needed]

>pretending nothing matters
To be fair, they're not exactly done. "The Comet" and "Crossover" both show that the arm Finn has is now magical, and combined with the grass sword. The grass sword is no longer attached to Finn, it IS his arm. Even in "Flute Spell" Finn tells HW his arm acts involuntarily when playing the flute, he isn't playing the flute, his arm is. (Although a misconception on how Flutes are playedx it's besides the point) Finn STILL has interest in a robotic arm, evident in "Preboot," when Finn sees Tiffany's bionic arm he is fascinated by it. The storyboarders animated that, the writers had Finn show that he is interested, it is intentional, they know what they are doing.

Explain Ninjago then, many, if not all characters go through changes in design, most notably Zane. Where's your argument there?

>Did nothing
Well what were you expecting? A guy abandons his son to die and you wanted a father son bonding? Finn wanted to multilate his father after their first interaction. Finn even sent his dad off of Ooo after realizing how shit he is. Finn did turn around to accept that he isn't going to change Martin in the season 6 finale. However, Finn does still think of Martin as someone who has negative character traits, evident in "Don't Look," where Finn transforms into Martin/moster hybrid after feeling like he had done wrong. What awas there to expect? We already knew he was a piece of shit that abandoned Finn in his first actual appearance.

They can push the show all they want but if we get no actually report on how well the merch is selling then its probably not doing well. We knew TTG was selling well in terms of merch about a year into its run so they definitely won't reveal if NuPPG is failing or not for at least for the next few months but from what I've seen the target demo ain't biting.

>SU: The only CN show I really care about now
That's just sad....for you

CN is really pathetic now

What happened to experimental miniseries like OTGW?

Not him and I don't think SU is all that either, but really, the sad thing here is CN. It's a wasteland now.

OTGW was a ratings flop

I don't think this is true, wasn't it nominated for awards even?

i'll fucking murder you friend

Well yeah I mean say all you want about Stu but at least in his reign there were more shit on than fucking TTG and they were getting talent from all over not just CalArts
No he's right it did do poorly in the ratings and CN did advertise the shit out of it I even saw billboards of its premiere all around Atlanta, it was definitely more of a critical darling than something they wanted to pursue further ventures with. And yes it did win an Emmy last year.

OTGW was spin together from a indy film into a mini series for fall/Halloween syndication
It wasn't "experimental" it's just a long line of one shot shows/mini series. It's why the voice cast is mostly top shelf actors and the like, it was always planned as a one time thing and nothing more. Also it got killer ratings and has for the last 3 years been doing what they wanted, a special treat when ratings flux this time of year.

>No he's right it did do poorly in the ratings
it made over a million each night it was aired in one of the weakest months for ratings on TV
can we please shot just shitting out our mouths whatever sounds right?

>Also it got killer ratings
Below 2 million is not killer especially in 2014 where standards for ratings on CN was higher
>3 years
It began in 2014

>it made over a million each night
Wow...its fucking nothing

It won 2 Emmys
Outstanding Animated Program
Outstanding Individual Achievement in Animation
and it's ratings were 1.19 to 1.55 million in November.
Also the fact that Wirt was Elijah Wood should have been a big red flag to anyone that this was never planned to be anymore then a limited series.

See they say Summer time is a bad time here but somehow I see more bullshit and stupid during the fall semester here then any other time on the board.

Remember when John K did the same shit years ago and no one gave a fuck?

So that's 3 shows derived from Adventure Time, one from Robot Chicken one that looks like it belongs in bumpers and another reboot of Ben 10 and nuPPG?

That looks to me like complete creative bankruptcy to me.

You do know that every show on CN gets over a 1 million views right? Very rarely do they fall below 1 million. Getting 2 million is considered good (used to be average but due to the channel's scale wide drop in viewership its much rarer for most shows not named TTG) and 3 million is great. OTGW never reached 2 million in ratings and given that it was a highly advertised special that is not good.
Nothing he stated was wrong though, those ratings aren't exceptional at all. Why are you getting so butthurt over nothing?

>Elijah Wood

He was the main character in Tron and that was a full series

what the shit? Gumball is fucking great. god damnit

>and it's ratings were 1.19 to 1.55 million in November.

TTG by average gets 2 million viewers with every new episode. So a high profile highly advertised mini-series did worse than an average episode of TTG. That is bad.
>full series
>18 episodes

>You do know that every show on CN gets over a 1 million views right?
yes that was my point where the talk was "it was a ratings flop" but keep in mind that 2014 was a tough year for cable in general and November is a weak month for ratings.
>Why are you getting so butthurt over nothing?
I'm not I'm just sharing that I notice that people say more educated posts in the fall then the summer.
Good point but I feel that happen because of Disney money. CN is different beast.

According to TV guide TTG averages 1.5 as of the fall of 2015.

>but keep in mind that 2014 was a tough year for cable
CN's viewership drop didn't take affect until mid 2015, premieres would still do 2 million in the ratings back then. You are right in that TV in general suffered from a major drop in viewership in recent years so OTGW didn't "flop" in the sense if you stack it against what CN does nowadays.

10 Highest-Rated Premieres on Cartoon Network in 2015:

Teen Titans Go! (January 8): 2,421,000
Teen Titans Go! (July 3): 2,350,000
Teen Titans Go! (February 26): 2,332,000
Teen Titans Go! (June 30): 2,298,000
Teen Titans Go! (February 19): 2,276,000
Teen Titans Go! (June 29): 2,278,000
Teen Titans Go! (July 1): 2,273,000
Teen Titans Go! (July 29): 2,260,000
Teen Titans Go! (April 9): 2,234,000
Teen Titans Go! (February 5): 2,223,000

TTG also doesn't get the same bomb treatment as the other shows on the block.

If any case OTGW did better than We Are The Royals which didn't even crack 1 million. Will be interesting to see how Magiswords does this week given people are claiming its CN's replacement for AT

>I'm not even over Nick being lost yet.

Nick is the best network at the moment

>best network
>Spongebob still everywhere
>all new shows are mediocre to downright forgettable

>defend steven universe
>have to be a faggot about it.


I love the show but why are you people so retarded. if you want people to like you you make yourself more respectable you don't start flinging names in a tantrum. its the same reason many people including gays and transgenders hate the lgbt community

Nick
>Harvey Beaks is one of the greatest animated series on tv
>Welcome to the Wayne was ordered for full series
>Hey Arnord and Rocko's TV movies
>Hillenburg is back to Spongebob and some people parise it, but it's not for me, anyway
>The Loud House is a cute little mediocre show, a huge hit though
>TMNT isn't good, but isn't bad either
CN
>Gumbal is awesome on every level, a future classic
>SU's quality is debatable, but still a huge hit. I personally enjoy it, but I'm not delusional about it
>Clarence has a great heart but unfortunatelly no one cares
>TTGo is CN's Spongebob, I don't hate it, I don't like it, makes bank for them though
>WBB is actually the one that's mediocre to downright forgettable
>Might Magiswords isn't good yet, very undercoocked show, will probably tank
>AT is a zomby, a flop, has no repeats
>Regular Show too

I feel like CN has no interesting new shows at the moment, I like the ones I watch right now, but the shows they ordered seem
>mediocre to downright forgettable
Seems like CN is up to a dark era again, while Nick is making interesting decisions after being completely fucked up on every level. Disney put a lot of money in new XD content, but all their TV networks, exept for Junior had a huge ratings decline in 2016, so all of those cool new concepts by great showrunners may get fucked over by wack management.

Next 5 years will be very interesting in terms of children networks rivalry, considering Netflix will also be an important player.

>Harvey Beaks is one of the greatest animated series on tv
Stopped reading there

They made the Royals miniseries, which was nowhere as successful as Over the Garden Wall, and so they gave-up

Have fun screaming about being such a faggot. And people here drag Rebecca for shit like that

probably because you barely know how to read

>MMS is a replacement for AT
>not UG
????

>Harvey Beaks is one of the greatest animated series on tv
HB is an incredibly boring show that doesn't know what it wants to be probably why it failed and Greenblatt is wraping shit up early.
>Welcome to the Wayne was ordered for full series
Why is this a positive?
>Hillenburg is back to Spongebob and some people parise it, but it's not for me, anyway
His episodes hasn't even aired yet.
>The Loud House is a cute little mediocre show, a huge hit though
Who fucking cares? And it ain't a huge hit either. Once we start seeing LH merch and shit then you can start gloating.
>TMNT isn't good, but isn't bad either
Doesn't even air on Nickelodeon anymore and is largely a Nicktoons hangover and no its fucking shit now


Also good job not mentioning Pig Goat Banna Cricket, Fairly Oddparents, Sanjay and Craig, the cancellation of Alvin and the Chipmunks and the slew of terrible live action shit still on the network. So much for making a combat.

>Gumbal is awesome on every level, a future classic
Thanks for the laugh
>>SU's quality is debatable, but still a huge hit. I personally enjoy it, but I'm not delusional about it
>still a huge hit
>I'm not delusional about it
Kek
>WBB is actually the one that's mediocre to downright forgettable
Nah that's most of Nick's lineup which no one even discusses here unless it has to do with waifus and pedos
>Might Magiswords isn't good yet, very undercoocked show
So its just like The Loud House. All CN has to do is push the shit out of it until it catches on much like Nick did with The Loud House
>AT is a zomby, a flop, has no repeats
Jesus Christ so many buzzwords with nothing to back them with.
>Seems like CN is up to a dark era again, while Nick is making interesting decisions after being completely fucked up on every level
Not even close, the important thing is that CN is still getting new shows every year while Nick is still recovering.
>B-b-b-b-but The Loud House
Yeah but what about everything else on the network?

Best part is that nobody will even remember Harvey Beaks once it ends so your constant asspain doesn't warrant anything substantial.

>HB is an incredibly boring show that doesn't know what it wants to be
Harvey Beaks knows exaxtly what it wants, to be a slice of live show with great character developement. It failed because of mismanagement
>Why is this a positive?
Because it's an interesting concept, based on the shorts
>His episodes hasn't even aired yet.
You know what a term executive producer means, right?
>Who fucking cares? And it ain't a huge hit either. Once we start seeing LH merch and shit then you can start gloating.
It's in a top 3 along with Spongebob and TTGo, ratingswise. The show literally started few months ago, merch never starts so fast for an animated sitcom.
>Doesn't even air on Nickelodeon anymore and is largely a Nicktoons hangover and no its fucking shit now
Shit shows are AT and RS. TMNT is at least bearable. For now. Merch sells so good it'll be the next zombie cartoon.
>Also good job not mentioning Pig Goat Banna Cricket, Fairly Oddparents, Sanjay and Craig, the cancellation of Alvin and the Chipmunks and the slew of terrible live action shit still on the network. So much for making a combat.
Alvin is a french show and wasn't cancelled by Nick. PGBC is Nick's Might Magiswords. Cool artstyle, shit pacing and writing. I don't give a fuck about FOP and S&C, for the same reason I didn't mentioned nuPPG, Ben 10 and OKKO.
>Kek
SU is a #2 CN show, if you count premiere ratings. So yes, it's definetelly a hit.
>Nah that's most of Nick's lineup which no one even discusses here unless it has to do with waifus and pedos
Lol at you implying popularity on Cred Forums means shit. A lot of shows people over here stan have shit ratings. And Spongebob is the most popular one and everyone hates it.
>So its just like The Loud House. All CN has to do is push the shit out of it until it catches on much like Nick did with The Loud House
It's already started with hideous ratings. And they promoted the shit out of it.

>Jesus Christ so many buzzwords with nothing to back them with.
This whole thread decribes how bad AT is now. You don't know how TV Schedule works?
>Not even close, the important thing is that CN is still getting new shows every year while Nick is still recovering.
It's kinda in reverse.
Who gives a shit? I like it, it's a great show that ran for ~100 episodes and will have a conclusion for a series finale. Cartoon Network's main audience are older kids, boys and teens. Nickelodeon's audience is more girly and way younger. And it's more internationally exposed than Cartoon Network. Having a a general on Cred Forums full of shitposting, holywars and waifufags will definetelly not make Nickelodeon money so why it should be relevant to anyone?

>Harvey Beaks knows exaxtly what it wants
Nope, its stuck between being a Nick Jr. show and a Nick show., Biggest reason why it failed is because it has no favor in it and is just mundane. Nick tried with it but it wasn't pulling its weight just be glad that's ending on Greenblatt's terms and isn't being pushed to die on Nicktoons like Kungfu Panda and TMNT.
>Because it's an interesting concept, based on the shorts
So...nothing? Believe it or not this was the exact same fool-hearty decision that got us Breadwinners and Fred!
>You know what a term executive producer means, right?
He never stopped being the executive producer dumbass, that's just a worthless title to give credit to people who don't do anything. The 10th season is suppose to be his return to writing episodes before he stepped down after the movie those episodes have not aired yet.
>It's in a top 3 along with Spongebob and TTGo, ratingswise.
And? Its only in its first season. Korra had great ratings in the first season and then dropped off every season after that, saying a show is a huge hit out the gate is about the stupidiest thing you can say in regards to cartoons.
>Shit shows are AT and RS.
No you just don't like them. The fanbases for both of them are happy with what those shows have been dishing out lately while the same can't be said for TMNT fans who hate all the wasted potential the show has become in fact I doubt you've even been keeping up and are just saying shit because you have no stance. Anyways with the 2nd movie bombing it sure as fuck won't be lasting long.
>Alvin is a french show and wasn't cancelled by Nick
It was. The studio shut down and Nick canceled it.
>PGBC is Nick's Might Magiswords. Cool artstyle, shit pacing and writing.
The artstyle in Magiswords is terrible. Also if you're going to prove a point in regards to how well Nick is doing you can't ignore the shows that air on the Network, you're just proving my point.

>SU is a #2 CN show, if you count premiere ratings.
Last episode premiere scored a 1.32 which was lower than the Gumball premiere. SU's ratings are inconsistent and during the last bomb it only got a boost thanks to having TTG as a lead in.
>This whole thread decribes how bad AT is now.
No the whole thread is just using the same stock comments in every AT hate thread with people calling out the bullshit with no rebuttal. There's no actual argument or substance to your argument because you dropped the show ages ago so why should we take what you say seriously>
>You don't know how TV Schedule works?
More so than you do that's for sure.

>Who gives a shit?
Just like nobody gives a shit about Harvey Beaks and won't remember it so who cares what you think? It didn't do anything for the network nor was it a critical darling like Adventure Time is so really why should we take anything you say seriously?
>Having a a general on Cred Forums full of shitposting, holywars and waifufags will definetelly not make Nickelodeon money so why it should be relevant to anyone?
And yet Loud House is a "huge hit" while Harvey Beaks didn't make any money for Nick. You're just filled with contradictions aren't ya?

>Nope, its stuck between being a Nick Jr. show and a Nick show., Biggest reason why it failed is because it has no favor in it and is just mundane. Nick tried with it but it wasn't pulling its weight just be glad that's ending on Greenblatt's terms and isn't being pushed to die on Nicktoons like Kungfu Panda and TMNT.
Proves the fact that you never watched it. There's nothing pre-schooly about the show. It's actually way more adult than Chowder was. The only reason it failed was Nick not trying with it up until the end of season 1.
>So...nothing? Believe it or not this was the exact same fool-hearty decision that got us Breadwinners and Fred!
Again, proves the fact that you never watched it. Breadwinners and Fred were shit from the start.
>He never stopped being the executive producer dumbass, that's just a worthless title to give credit to people who don't do anything. The 10th season is suppose to be his return to writing episodes before he stepped down after the movie those episodes have not aired yet.
He wasn't curating the show as an exec from the times of the first movie till the times of the second one. Now he is. Sometimes showrunners don't write a single episode on their own and just give the writers new ideas here and there. That's exactly what he doing, the episodes that started airing right now were written after the second movie
>And? Its only in its first season. Korra had great ratings in the first season and then dropped off every season after that, saying a show is a huge hit out the gate is about the stupidiest thing you can say in regards to cartoons.
The big ratings came from teens and young adults. Kids didn't watch the show, just look at the demos.

>No you just don't like them. The fanbases for both of them are happy with what those shows have been dishing out lately while the same can't be said for TMNT fans who hate all the wasted potential the show has become in fact I doubt you've even been keeping up and are just saying shit because you have no stance. Anyways with the 2nd movie bombing it sure as fuck won't be lasting long.
Both fanbases are minimised, based on both ratings and Cred Forums threads. The people who still watch those two are just dumb stans who will eat everything. TMNT never had potential, lol, it always was a silly show for kids that promoted the toys. It didn't change that much and has the same problems it had durning season 1. Movies have nothing to do with the series audiencewise.
>It was. The studio shut down and Nick canceled it.
It was a well known fact the show won't last longer than 2 seasons before Nick US even started airing it. They werenot expecting it to score so good, that's why it premieres on every Nickelodeon in the world a long time berore Murica
>The artstyle in Magiswords is terrible. Also if you're going to prove a point in regards to how well Nick is doing you can't ignore the shows that air on the Network, you're just proving my point.
The main point of my first comment was the future, and Nick's future projects are way more interesting at this point.
>No the whole thread is just using the same stock comments in every AT hate thread with people calling out the bullshit with no rebuttal. There's no actual argument or substance to your argument because you dropped the show ages ago so why should we take what you say seriously
The reason people have the same reaction to it just means a lot of people obviously can see the decline. Actually the nu-AT is the show that doesn't knows what it want's to be at this point and is completely unrelated to it's first season.
>More so than you do that's for sure.
Can you show me where AT repeats are over there?

I don't feel butthurt about Harvey being unnoticed, it actually was treated very well for being so low-rated.
The fact that Harvey isn't as profitable as Spongebob or Loud House doesn't mean it's unprofitable. Nick could've cancel the show mid-production like they did to El Tigre. Again, international broadcasting means more than you think

>There's nothing pre-schooly about the show
Every episode ends with a life lesson message
There's no edge with the humor its largely fart and "kids say the darnest things" jokes.
More shit happens in an episode of Dora than Harvey Beaks

It suffered the same problem as the first season of 7D but whereas that show had clever gags and a neat premise Harvey Beaks has none of that. And stop blaming Nick for the show that clicking with audiences, if they really didn't care for it they would have shoved it to Nicktoons ages ago.
>Again, proves the fact that you never watched it. Breadwinners and Fred were shit from the start.
And way to miss the point. Wasn't even comparing the show in terms of quality, though you are just blindly believing the show will be good based on nothing, just that this is something Nick has done before.
>He wasn't curating the show as an exec from the times of the first movie till the times of the second one
He's still listed as executive producer in every season along with creator's credit much like Pen is still listed as executive producer of Adventure Time despite stepping down from showrunner
>The big ratings came from teens and young adults. Kids didn't watch the show, just look at the demos.
More kids watched Korra than fucking Loud House so your point is moot.
>The people who still watch those two are just dumb stans who will eat everything
But apparently you, who dropped the show, has more say in its actual quality than the people who stuck with it because they like it and wasn't just following a bandwagon? Okay. Doesn't help your case that the people who left to AT went to SU and we all know great that fanbase is.
>TMNT never had potential, lol
>lol
Right. Actually it did, people loved the first season because it had a lot of interesting aspects to it and then it just got worse as it went on. Once again who are you to say if a show has any potential or not.

At this point isn't Finn just a sociopath that just wants to fuck any girl he can get his hands on while disregarding any other girl he had in the past like Fire Princess

Also it's kinda silly but Lemongrab was really the only thing that grabbed me to the show because of how silly and wacky he was as well as interesting

but thats just me

>. Movies have nothing to do with the series audiencewise.
Actually it does since they're apart of the same franchise and share the same audience and take in the same share in merchandise, part of the reason why TMNT is still on the air is because of the success of the movie since the TV series has not been doing well at all in the ratings and got pushed to Nicktoons so that was keeping it afloat.
>It was a well known fact the show won't last longer than 2 seasons before Nick US even started airing it.
Wrong. The studio recently shut down due to financial issues and Nick ordered the episodes well in advance, the only unprecedented thing is the show doing well but the studio shutting down was not known when Nick picked up the show.
> was the future, and Nick's future projects are way more interesting at this point.
So far all you've listed is one future project which isn't very interesting, if you go from an objective stance CN still has more shows in development and coming out within the next few years while Nick is slowly recovering there's also no guarantee that Wayne will even do well to begin with so you're really just talking out your ass.
>The reason people have the same reaction to it just means a lot of people obviously can see the decline
No its literally just the same stock arguments over and over again that gets refuted with the same response.
>Why Breezy is a bad episode?
>Because Cred Forums said it was
Over and over again to the point where there's no point in taking the bait.
>Actually the nu-AT is the show that doesn't knows what it want's to be at this point and is completely unrelated to it's first season.
Look another stock argument.
>Can you show me where AT repeats are over there?
There's no consistency to CN's schedule outside airing just TTG, sometimes I see RS on the weekdays sometimes I don't. Sometimes SU is weekends only sometimes its not. Clarence just got back on the schedule after being absent for months.

Wow...that user wasn't kidding. The people who complain about this show don't even watch it anymore.

>The people who still watch those two are just dumb stans who will eat everything.
Actually you see that shit with SU and Loud House defending bad episodes and writing, the AT threads got better once the bandwagoners left along with RS. Lots of threads has never been any proof of quality ever.

Filmore (Remember that show?)
Dark wing Duck
Gargoyles
Aladdin
Hercules
Dexter
DBZ
As Told By Ginger
SpiderMan

I also really liked Cow and Chicken, Yu-Gi-Oh!, Rugrats, Timon & Puumba but I'm not sure if they'd stand up nowadays

>Every episode ends with a life lesson message
You just described 75% of every non-pre-school animated show, including SU, GF and some AT episodes
>There's no edge with the humor its largely fart and "kids say the darnest things" jokes.
Again proves the fact that you never watched it
>More shit happens in an episode of Dora than Harvey Beaks
One is educational adventure show and the other one is slice-of-life. Groundbreaking.
>And stop blaming Nick for the show that clicking with audiences, if they really didn't care for it they would have shoved it to Nicktoons ages ago.
Too bad you can't read because I already mentioned that they care about the show now, but didn't try when it premiered. Nick completely changed the promo tactics and way of airing new episodes. That's why they finally beat Disney Channel after the ratings drop that started in 2012.
>He's still listed as executive producer in every season along with creator's credit much like Pen is still listed as executive producer of Adventure Time despite stepping down from showrunner
Again, the episodes that premiered this year were written after he joined the team again. It doesn't means he wrote them from start to finish.
>More kids watched Korra than fucking Loud House so your point is moot.
Comparing ratings from 2012 and 2016 is wrong because cable TV insanely changed in those 4 years
>But apparently you, who dropped the show, has more say in its actual quality than the people who stuck with it because they like it and wasn't just following a bandwagon? Okay. Doesn't help your case that the people who left to AT went to SU and we all know great that fanbase is.
Both of those fanbases were always extremely snobby, had waifufags and acted holier than thou. In my country, two networks still air the show, so I catched few episodes on TV. Also I tried to watch all hyped-up big events, even though I dropped the show.

Finn fucking up with Flame Princess and going right back to Bubblegum. I didn't start outright changing the channel when the show comes until Breezy happened.

>Actually it does since they're apart of the same franchise and share the same audience and take in the same share in merchandise, part of the reason why TMNT is still on the air is because of the success of the movie since the TV series has not been doing well at all in the ratings and got pushed to Nicktoons so that was keeping it afloat.
Audiences are different. The cartoon is extremely childish and movie is TV PG 13. Nickelodeon's main demos are below 13. Merch is different too, because kids are not dumb and the character designs are different. TV series still air on Nick, the repeats are send off to NickToons, because it's a boy oriented network, just like CN and Disney XD are.
>Wrong. The studio recently shut down due to financial issues and Nick ordered the episodes well in advance, the only unprecedented thing is the show doing well but the studio shutting down was not known when Nick picked up the show.
It was known when it started airing in the US. Nick wasn't a main production company and Alvin isn't considered a nicktoon.
>So far all you've listed is one future project which isn't very interesting, if you go from an objective stance CN still has more shows in development and coming out within the next few years while Nick is slowly recovering there's also no guarantee that Wayne will even do well to begin with so you're really just talking out your ass.
You can watch the Wayne shorts right now on Nick.com. The TV movies are also great. The only interesting new thing CN has is OKKO and based on the pilot, even that show looks very dated already.
>No its literally just the same stock arguments over and over again that gets refuted with the same response.
So you think this is a conspiracy? If a bunch of people have the same feeling towards something, it a meme or they are bandwagoners?
>Look another stock argument.
Was used ironically, because user used this argument against Harvey Beaks, without even watching the show.

>There's no consistency to CN's schedule outside airing just TTG, sometimes I see RS on the weekdays sometimes I don't. Sometimes SU is weekends only sometimes its not. Clarence just got back on the schedule after being absent for months.
It's sad when the only cosistency in past 6 months was the lack of AT outside of premiere timeslots

Thats just Adventure Time but with video game and anime references. I dunno about you, but I've had my fill.
I want action shows to come back; Justice League, Teen Titans, fucking Sym-bionic Titan etc

Its hard not to judge a fanbase that drove a girl to a suicide attempt cause she drew the fat character as thin.

Breezy was the last straw.

After Cinnamonbun joined flame princess. Or only a little bit after finn lost his arm.

Hearing thst he grew it back disgusted me. It retrospectively made me realize I should have quit a lot sooner.

Throw in Regular show and thats a lot of shows ending. What are they replacing them with?

Oh wow, they made the main character black after he was white in the pilot.

LEGO

Thats what gets me the most. If there was nothing else good then whaever, but it went against a seriously cool show and won out cause "hipster cartoons are in right now"

While I think a lot of Season 13 was pretty bad, I fucking love Just Another Manic-Kahn Day. It's even technically the series finale which makes it even better. The episode where Bill is in a wheelchair is good and so is the one where they have to tear down the McMansion.

You're part of the cancer killing the industry

Atleast every TTG makes is original, no stolen shot for shot from anime.
Oh but its a "homage". When does the homage end and the originally fucking material begin?

The problem is PPG will sell way more toys than UG ever will. I think we'll be getting a long running series simply to give them an excuse to make more toys, despite how few people watch it.

>>never evolves
>>ignores the fans that stopped watching due to a change in tone and focus
>Sure thing lad

Aside from Finngetting older, what changes do we actually see in the show in each episode? How is the show different, in a positive way, to what it was when it started on a episode by episode basis?

>new developments are hinted to and happen and then either keep being hinted to without happening or happen and then are immediately reversed so it's back to square 1

That's because the creators are trolling you and people like you.

And you just keep takin' the bait. Pathetic.

Always refreshing to hear a voice of reason like this. Thanks user, good timing.

>fuck everything

>story writing was really weak and aimed towards kids

It hardly has a story. It's mostly episodic with an overarching plot that they haven't executed well.

It's also not really aimed at kids, as anyone can find the humor entertainment, if anything it makes you feel like a kid again.

I don't remember what episode but I remember it was Bubblegum telling Finn to fuck off and it was night time, and the giant gumball people were there too, I honestly don't remember, I wonder if anyone knows what episode Im thinking of.

Basically it returned to status quo the following episode.

>>Ben 10 reboot: jesus fuck ben 10 still exists?
Just wait for another season of Total Drama.

although the ridonculous race was tip top tier

ADVENTURE TIME IS FINISHED BOYS ADD IT TO THE CANCELLED WALL

I'm pretty sure it was called Twelve Forever.

Is it cool to hate Steven Universe now? I thought you guys liked muscle girls.

im happy its ending on its own terms.

You sound like the kind of fan who complains when Family Guy does a joke that goes on too long or cuts to Conway Twitty.

THEY ARE MAKING FUN OF PEOPLE LIKE YOU WHEN THEY DO THAT.

Jesus.

im loveing the last season of regular show so far.

The Lich I guess? Though I'd think you would remember the Lich being there because he's only been like like 5 episodes.

That one was real good, no idea why that made you drop it.

bump

>he doesn't know what cancelled means

That's something you need to observe for yourself. Me describing a color to you does little than seeing the color for yourself

Lucky of the Hill was a different show

>Steven actually has to grow up. Make real adult decisions like putting down the dog, or accepting that some people are just asses like Lars. Takes on more and more responsibility as it goes on.
>The gems actually do have some sexual tension. Pearl is still embittered after getting rejected by the love of her life and secretly resents Steven to some extent, being a bit hard on the boy. Sort of like Snape.
>Greg actually makes a effort to improve himself in order to be a better father to Steven. Ends up living in a decent house in the last season.
>The past is a Second Apocalypse-like one where the Gems invaded earth during what was essentially the Antediluvian world. Lost primordial continents, dinosaurs and left overs from the pre-Cambrian period, supernatural shit, Valusian remnants, etc.
>flashbacks show the Gems doing battle with Atlantaen Sorcerer Kings, Valusian high priests, Cimmerian warriors, Dwarves, Fairies, Biblical heroes, etc.
>show that it was extraordinarily bloody and that Rose Quartz grew disgusted with the slaughter. Then when Diamond Authority sunk Atlantis, Lemuria, and Mu deep under the sea she couldn't take it anymore and rose up in revolt.
>Onion is a horror from beyond the void. He's sort of like Gaunter O'Dimm in the sense that he just wanders around tormenting mortals like Steven.
>Give Steven another human girl to hang out with. Someone his age and relatively normal so he has someone to talk to.

JUST

CONFIRMED

...

>tfw south africa women are into BWC

Fuck I miss edd ed and eddy.

>I'm not even over Nick being lost yet.
but Harvey Beaks and the loud House are pretty good.