Clark admits the old Real Superman is better than Nu52 Superman, Jurgens BTFO of everyone

>Grant Morrison first made Superman edgy in his terrible Action Comics run
>Geoff Johns made him worse in his JL and Superman run
>Greg Pak made him even WORSE
>they all made Nu52 Superman so terrible that DC had to retcon him as a fake and bring back the Real Superman
>Jurgans takes it a step farther and dubs him BETTER than the previous edgy nu52 Super"bro"
>X Gonna Giv it to ya starts playing

Pffffffthahahahahahahahahahaha! That is freak in rich! Clap. Clap. Clap. Brava, Morrison, Johns, and Pak! Brava! You all did such a terrible job on Superman that even he admits the Real Superman is better. It takes effort to mess up that bad. Clap. Clap. Oh man.

But hey, at least the Real Superman is back. Hopefully during the Watchment event they can put the Real Clark back in the Daily Planet.

Okay, good to you

Damn, new52 Superman wasn't perfect but that's just mean-spirited.

hopefully they can also get rid of and retcon geoff johns shitty shazam and bring back the real captain marvel (maybe the one from the convergence issue)

If Jurgens put half as much effort in his scripting than he does in self congratulatory, he'll be an almost above mediocre writer.

Dont compare Morrison's to Johns.

Morrison was based on the original late 30's superman.

Johns was just a Kool Edgy modern superman

Story time?

But who would take his place as the nostalgia wank king?

Morrison still made Superman edgy. He started it and other writers followed his example
>b-b-b-but it was suppose to be edgy! It was a parody of the golden age hero! It's ironically shit!
Then Morrison should have made a Superman that was Unironically GOOD.

Now his Superman is dead and retconned away so they can bring back the Real Superman.

And Morrison doesn't care because he never cared about Supes and just wanted a paycheck and a chance to do weird edgy shit. Now he's writing terrible movie/tv script comics like Klaus.

You sound like you never read Johns Superman past the first 2 JL arc, in short you're an uneducated faggot.

>These are who I have to share the storytime with

Check the catalog.

user do you honestly consider this to be edgy?

I finished reading Gran'ts Action Comics just a while ago so I'm glad to find this thread. I liked the main story, Vyndktvx's master plan was awesome, but it's disjointed as fuck and I'm not talking about the time travel. The story would constantly go off course right in the middle of a battle so we can have an issue about a guy that sells Superman shirts or something random. It was very jarring. Aside from that I liked it. I don't think this Superman was edgy, the only time he was kind of a dick was when he was overly aggressive towards Glen Glenmorgan but that was the start of his vigilante career, he got better.

Did anyone like the villains this run introduced? I never see Cred Forums mention any of the Anti-Superman Army in Superman or supervillain threads. The K-Men, Eric Drekken(the evolution guy), Nimrod the Hunter, Metalek, Xa-Du, and Lord Vyndktvx.

No, I love it when Superman acts like a tween's Batman fanfiction and actung scary. Superman should talk like that all the time. Superman should be threatening, not compfy.

It's too bad DC got rid of him and brought back the real Superman. Sigh....

(Btw that was sarcasm)

>Clap. Clap. Clap.
>Sigh....
>(Btw that was sarcasm)

It's either bait for Morrison fanboys, or casual faggotry. Supes is a benevolent, idealistic type, so casuals get the idea that he treats criminals with kid gloves all the time. So him calling corrupt businessmen rats is "edgy" to them

Johns, Byrne, the list could go on...

>it's a squirrelfag thread

I really hate that they took Superman in this exciting new direction and then assigned fucking holding pattern writers to him.

Don't compare those 2 with Jurgens, they've actually produced stuff worthwhile.

At least Tomasi can provide a good Shota fan service and a good issue after each 6 mediocre issues.

Johns is actually pretty innovative so don't even think about comparing him to Jurgens.

It's "bravo", not "brava", you goddamn ignorant piece of fucking shit.

>So him calling corrupt businessmen rats is "edgy" to them
To be fair he did more than just that. He threw Glen's men into the wall, was an asshole to the cops, and almost gave Glen a heartattack by jumping off a building with him.

After the Terminaut/Brainiac invasion he was put in a mental asylum.

Glen was a crook but Superman could have handled that all better. But this was the start of his career so of course he's not perfect at it yet.

edgy as FUCK grant

The idea that Superman acts like Mr.Rodgers to everyone is a puerile one.

I read Darkseid War, and i wish i didnt

>Then Morrison should have made a Superman that was Unironically GOOD.

He did, those comics are great.

Why should Superman go easy on him?

You've never read superman before, have you. It's fairly fucking obvious.

I just hated the collar and shipping with Diana.

Yeah his Action Comic is so great and totally didnt drive away fans like Linkara!

Can't wait for the omnibus that will totally come out because Morrison's action comics is so popular!

Good thing Morrison's Nu53 Superman isn't being pushed to the side for the Real Superman!

Truly Morrison's Action Comics is Kino!!!

Anyone here or elsewhere actually care about Superbro? I mean, yeah, he has some cool moments, but the only good thing about him that he was great friend to Bruce, Dick and other few people.

Its obvious the only Supes you've read is ASS aka baby's first Superman story.

Because he was suppose to be Superman. That's what Superman does. He's not a bully that hurts people with no remorse. He does his best to take down enemies but not dishing out extreme punishment.

Maybe if you read less Batman than Superman you would know this, kid.

Batman is going to go BALLISTIC. For him, new 52 Superman IS the real Superman and this faker doesn't even compare.

Well I definitely called it. I'm going to go out on a limb and say that you also think he's a perfect mary sue and is boring as well, right.

I like both Superbro and Old Supes.

This is an excellent assessment of Morrison's Action Comics

I never really got where this ''SUPERBRO'' stuff came from, old supes may not have had uppity stories but he was a good man, not edgy at all.

Nobody liked Nu52 Superman.

Why do you think his comics skyrocketed with Rebirth?

>I'm going to go out on a limb and say that you also think he's a perfect mary sue and is boring as well, right.
No. Any other retarded projections you'd like to make?

Nah, the Real Superman and Batman are going to bond on dinosaur island, thus helping to rekindle their friendship.

The Trinity book will also do that.

Eventually, Batman will get his memories of Superman pre-flashpoint and realize this is the Real Superman and his best friend and the edgy nu52 Superman will be forgotten.

The End.

>That is freak in rich!
>Slap. Slap. Slap.
>Clap. Clap. Clap.

Clearly you didn't see all the superbro threads.

Hell superbro is far from the most drastic change Supes has ever had.

The Superbro threads are three guys who only exist on Cred Forums circlejerking to their contrarianism.

>Clearly you didn't see all the superbro threads.
Clearly we saw different ones. His storytimes didn't get half the attention Superdad is. Or are you referring to how all the Superbrofags are shitposting saying that Cred Forums totally loved Superbro guys?

Well, since NOBODY (except Bruce and Lana) cares about his death at all, even inside DC universe itself, it's true.

>Linkara
Delete this.

>New52fags current status
Come on guys. get it over it :^)

Superbrofags are a minority even on Cred Forums. People dislike Action for Jurgens not Superdad. And Tomasi got some major props for his last issue.

Shit we should be driving fans like Linkara away.

Why do we allow troll threads again?

Superdad comics is best comics so far, but i'm worried about Clark-Bruce. Their bromance were one of the best thing in Pre-new52. And it was one of the best thing in new52. And since Superbro is dead, Bruce will never be friend with Superdad. That's really sad. Diana seems ok with Superdad and accepts him as her pre-new52 does. Bruce, at other hand, don't even trust him or like him at all.The only hope for Trinity.

It's sad because they were all really good writers. I mean Morrison wrote All-Star Supes. All he had to do was take that and make him into the nu52 (so simple). Instead he decides to do weird experimentation and make Superman like his golden age bully self (even though nobody likes the golden age bully Supes). Not to mention having his parents killed off.

And Johns usualy makes fun Superman comics. And I can't believe Johns had Superman causing the Great World to blow up and would think people would be okay with that. Did he not see the MoS reception?!! And turning him evil for Darkseid War?!!

And Pak. Sweet Pak. He wrote a funny and comfy Hercules run. But then he gets put on Superman and has him depowered, cut his hair, and get rid of his cape?

And don't get me started on Lobdell!


All of these writers should have created the best Nu52 Superman runs ever. It's amazing how badly they tripped and failed.

Fartbirth Supes is not Superman.

It's not trolling if its true.

Even DC admits that edgy Nu52 Superman was a horrible mistake and needed to be corrected and that we all are better off forgetting him.

>that's what Superman does
No it's not. It's what you say he does but you're not really a superman fan so you wouldn't actually know.

You're not Superman!

You really shouldn't be paying attention nostalgiafag like Jurgens says.

See

Shouldn't you be busy reading Batman and Wolverine, kid?

What's hilarious is that I probably read more Superman comics than you.

I'll be okay with this actually. Superbro and Batbro must exist for the sake of universe. I'm actually okay with WW, Bruce and Barry get their memories back. Hal too, I guess.

I liked that last Superbro arc with him learning how to be human and eating hamburguers.
Also Superbro with a beard was awesome.
I've read lots of old 52 Supes and i have nothing against him been back, but i could've given Superbro more time.

why do people keep calling post-crisis superman the real superman

aint the real superman the guy on the cover of action comics #1

Post Crisis Superman is the Real Superman and the one everyone loves.

Nobody like Golden Age Supes. Which is why making Nu52 Supes like him cursed him.

Alright, faggots.
Can any of you explain why you take Squirrelfag's bait instead of reporting him? Do you enjoy encouraging his cancer? Are you that damn stupid and/or new?

Oh, and sage.

I literally don't know who this squirrel person is that you speak of (tho calling them a homosexual slur isn't nice).

But the OP ain't lying. It's not an edit. It's not bait. It's Truth. Truth that even DC regrets Nu52 Superman and that the Real Superman is better and Fun.

Also announcing your sage is against the rules.

Fuck off and get cancer, squirrelfag.

>Anyone here or elsewhere actually care about Superbro?

Yeah. He was awesome. I blame the red underwear autists for the current events.

Nope. The real Superman is pre-crisis Silver Age Superman who everyone hates for being "too OP." Whatever.

>Axe body spray

Might as well have called him a chad. The incel is showing hard in that comic.

I don't know who this squirrel is or what squirrels have to do with Superman.

But my point still stands, it's not bait if it is True. People prefer a Fun Superman over a edgy Superman. They are called COMIC Books, Not EDGY Books.

Also, calling people a homosexual slur is impolite.

>Which is why making Nu52 Supes like him cursed him.

Why does everyone miss that Golden Age Superman was just a starting point for Morrison and that by the end of issue 18 he's grown into the classic rendition? Hell once he throws away the jeans and shirt Morrison dropped the old Socialist theme and went into his standard mind fuckery.

Am I the only one that's actually read Morrison's Action Comics run?

>Johns is actually pretty innovative

Kek not at all

I'm a red-underwear fag and I have nothing against Nu52 Superman. He was great, it's his costume that sucked.

>Eventually, Batman will get his memories of Superman pre-flashpoint and realize this is the Real Superman and his best friend and the edgy nu52 Superman will be forgotten.

This is how people treat superman when he dates the wrong girl. BTW. They want him to die and be forgotten.

Man, you guys suck.

Because the first issues turned alot of fans away (like Linkara). First impressions mean alot.

Fuck Linkara.

I'm serious, why aren't you dead yet?
You do nothing but make the same kind of cancerous shitposting thread over and over again. How fucking empty your shitty worthless life have to be to do that? Why don't you kill yourself? It would set you (and everyone who has to read your idiotic shitposts) free.

This what happens when Clark dates Diana. Either he dies, the world goes shit, or he turns evil.

I still hold out hope that Superbro comes back. I further hope that he dates another non-Lois and they let it work and chill with the character assassination because the OTP folks have their ship.

>"I I read more than you so I'm superior "
This again ?

So are there two Supermen then or what? How exactly did the old Superman come back?

Made a deal with Anti Monitor, showed up, told New 52 Superman he's not worthy the mantle and snapped his neck.

You're not a Superman fan

>calling ASS baby's first superman story
It's true, Cred Forums just doesn't fucking read comics.

Are you just a full time casual, or are you a batfag?

He sold his red shorts to the devil, got to ride a taxi out of the last reboot.

Superman is Superman.

>Grant Morrison first made Superman edgy in his terrible Action Comics run
stopped reading here, is it possible to be more wrong than this?

>Never read a Golden Age Superman comic

He was like that in the early years. Hell I'd say he was even more ruthless than Superbro.

It's a Neron makes hell of a deal episode.

>you should kill yourself because of your beliefs
GamerGate pls leave.

Read Convergence, then Jurgen's Lois and Clark series. Clark and Lois conceived a kid during their time trapped in a domed Gotham city, then went back in time and averted the original crisis before coming back to N52 earth and settled down there, with Classic Clark occasionally helping out behind the scenes. Then N52 Supes, via a whole bunch of physical ailments, wound up dying and Classic Clark took up the mantle again.

Let's play a game.
You post three stories where superman acts like you think he should.
Then I'll post fucking thirty stories where he acts like I think he should. Because it'd be easy- aside from nu52, Byrne, the Elite, fucking Identity Crisis and a tiiiny handful of other stories, i could just throw darts at his publication history and be correct.

You are wrong. The end.

>he's still not killing himself
I swear, I'd storytime a doujin but unfortunately people (you know human beings, something a trash bag like you will never be) decided to have a conversation here.

Nope, Rebirth Superman is the Real Superman.

The others are just fakes.

*dropping the mic*

>It's a Neron makes hell of a deal episode.

I sincerely hope that the next time we see him he is wearing some red shorts.

Nobody likes Golden Age Superman.

People want a Superman that inspires and hugs people.

Not a edgy Bully Superman that hurts people (while taking pleasure in it).

>*dropping the mic*

You might want to pick up a comic book with those free hands and alleviate some of that ignorance.

And red boots.

>Superbrofags
>Not nostalgiafags
All they do is masturbate to the handful of good stories and ignore the vast pile of shit Superbro was in.

> this syntax
Never criticize anyone's writing agin.

>Not a edgy Bully Superman that hurts people (while taking pleasure in it).

The fact that one of the things that people hold against Superbro was that he made some fucking nazis feel bad and liked it will only ever make me like him more.

>And red boots.

Yeah!

>threading to post porn on a WORKSAFE board.
user, that is mean and dangerous. What if you post porn and someone comes to this thread while at work and their boss sees the porn? They would get fired. How would you feel if you got some innocent Joe who just wanted to discuss comics got fired because of your porn addiction.

Ow! I just cut myself on your edge!

>Nope, Rebirth Superman is the Real Superman.
So let me get this straight, you think a fella that sat in his house with his wife and child during all Darkseid's invasion or the Darkseid/Anti-Monitor fight or during Forever Evil where most people were trapped is Superman? You think the guy that didn't lift a finger to help innocent during all these times of great need, let's not mention day to day life and smaller threats, but during these periods where humanity needed a superman, you're telling me the "REAL" Superman was sitting at home, banging his wife and watching cartoons with his son? There are villains in the DCU more heroic than this clown.

I know you're pretending to be retarded to get (You)s, but does anyone really believe this imposter is even a Superman? DO people seriously think this convoluted plot straight out of the worst parts of the 90s is good?

Pal, Nazis are edgy.

>Clark Kent isn't Superman
Aand dropped.

Does the word edgy mean anything anymore? Apparently being happy Superman is anti-nazi applies somhow.

I guess when you're a nazi you forget that people do not sympathethize with you. This isn't an abberation, this is how it should be.

>even he admits
do you know the definition of the word perhaps?

If YOU get fired (as if a fat shitposting fuck like you has a job) and commit suicide and will never shitpost here again, I'll be extremely proud of myself.
Case in point, fuck you. You pissed me off and so did our idiotic mods who are so lazy they probably don't wipe their asses when they take a huge shit after all those hot pockets.

Yes, why do you think he's alive and his comic selling so much while the edgy nu52 Superchad is dead and forgotten?
Real Superman: 1
Fake Superchad: 0

Kawakaze master race here, but Kashima is fine too.

Superdad needs to spend some time learning how to be a hero from Peter Parker. Guy has one kid and suddenly can't be bothered to help a world full of kids.

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Superman never takes pleasure in hurting people. Superman loves all life and believes in hope in everyone can change. There is ALWAYS another way.

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>Chad

Anyone else noticing a lot of incel speak from the superdad fans?

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The most important part of superman is that he is a man. Men enjoy pushing nazi scum around.

Deal.

That's just one autist who should've been range-banned a long time ago.
Then again, he could proxyfag.

The character's name is Clark, not Jesus. He punches bad guys to solve problems. He doesn't turn the other cheek.

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Since I've been mostly in Cred Forums for the last couple of months can someone explain to me who is this squirrel fag?
I remember the hurr durr DC is edgy and misogynistic threads but that was a long time ago, though this thread does feel like them.

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Yep, it's him, alright. Unfortunately he's back.
Same typing patterns, same kind of obnoxious shitposting. Even the same phrasing.

I guess our mods are too new to remember him which is why this is a third on my memory thread made by him that wasn't deleted on sight.

He changed the tactics a little, but he's still obvious.

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Fuck, wrong image.

Thanks user. And keep up the good fight.

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I can only hope that maybe one day mods will get wiser to his shitposts.

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I just realize that I should've gone with Bismarck.
You can never go wrong with Bis-ko.

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>All those gay nu-male minority falseflagging and projecting all over thread

>Jurgens unmade edgy Superman
>Jurgens
>not edgy
cool story, Cred Forums

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Browsing Cred Forums at work - even the "worksafe" boards - is just playing with fire, pure and simple. If you care about your job do not do it.

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Okay hold up.

I can understand how you would paint superman, I have enough oil and guache painting history to be able to do so, but those light shafts in the background? The stars? How

Like literally how?

...why is there hentai here? And This is stupid as fuck. Superbro is the one that risked his life to save the Earth many times.

And now for some Bismarck femdom.

>>Superbrofags
> >Not nostalgiafags
> All they do is masturbate to the handful of good stories and ignore the vast pile of shit Superbro was in.
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> > this syntax
> Never criticize anyone's writing agin.
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> >Not a edgy Bully Superman that hurts people (while taking pleasure in it).
> The fact that one of the things that people hold against Superbro was that he made some fucking nazis feel bad and liked it will only ever make me like him more.

4chn guys like to imagine that everyone who disagrees with them is faking somehow. They've got brain problems.

>Sandyhook

Because it's a shitposting thread started by a notorious(ly bad) troll and mods are probably touching themselves, I don't know what's taking so long.

In my opinion Prinz > Bismarck, but all Germans are good.

Man, I remember how SGfag made me snap and I spammed his thread with Louise.
I need to look for some Louise doujins now.

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And some Louise.

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Oh wow. I swear, I didn't expect this. This is the first time I see this doujin. Honest.

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>Linkara

Fucking off yourself

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So you have this on your hard rive but you have never read it?
Also
>Morrison in captcha
OP confirmed for Gentry

Ah, whatever. I don't even care anymore.

I quickly torrented it right now.
I didn't even look at it.

>only Othinus doujin is not even lewd
Fuck that. She has been a goddess, she has been a fairy.
The potential is limitless and no one does anything with it. That really grinds my gears.

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Jesus Christ this is the most unsubtle trolling in some time.

Welcome to squirrelfag.

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Stop bumping this shit thread with your fucking anime garbage

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>Nobody like Golden Age Supes.
You're the dumbest person I've ever met.

>bumping
Where? My every post has sage and this thread was very well on its way to the page 10. Blame newfags who think invisible sage = sage doesn't work.

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I swear, mods must be jerking off to this shit.

Fine, Nobody with good taste likes Golden Age Superman. There.

>failed to re-invent Superman to modern readers
>bring back the old one and force it down on everyone's throat by jerking off to nostalgia and everyone gurgling over its cock

but then you niggas get triggered when they call the guy a mary sue

>LOL LET'S GET RID OF AN ATTEMPT AT SELF-MODERATION BUT DON'T DELETE AN OBVIOUS BAIT THREAD BY A RECOGNIZABLE SHITPOSTER BECAUSE WE'RE DUMB FAT FUCKS

What quality moderation!
When will we finally get mods who are not complete idiots? I'm getting real tired of these fucknuggets with IQ of an amoeba.

>What quality moderation!

Oh eat a dick. People can have fun in bait threads too.

"Oh no, we're been fooled into having a discussion!"

You eat a dick.
You and our idiot mods are encouraging this autistic piece of human garbage to make more shitty threads.

Take a chill pill fAm

Stop bumping this shit thread, you moron.

I love hearing people say this. Especially when used to discredit Superman. Superdad straight up assaulted Lex. For no reason. How's that for another way?

Look, I'm glad Post Crisis Superman is back, but come on. Superbro wasn't "edgy". He had tons of stuff i liked.

And more importantly these threads are fucking cancer.

>You and our idiot mods

Dude, there's still porn here. It's just on another board. You can finish jerking off over there.

>Stop bumping this shit thread, you moron.

Fucking make me.

The only one jerking off here is you, to your idiotic shitposting. Seriously, just get cancer. No one would ever mourn or miss you.

>Fucking make me.
I'd gladly make you by forcing radioactive waste down your throat so you could die and stop shitting up this board, but unfortunately I don't know where you live so you'd have to do it yourself. Go eat some asbestos?

Morrison's Action is the best mainline Superman book since Byrne. I wish he did it for another year.

>Seriously, just get cancer. No one would ever mourn or miss you.

Aww. Sorry a mod ruined your boner lad. Remember that anger is but one of many stages you'll go through now.

>so you could die and stop shitting up this board

lol. Ever notice that it's you anger boys that ruin most threads. If you'd just internalize the feelings of frustration your have and stop ejaculating them all over your posts we'd all appreciate it.

Jerk off.

>Real Superman.

This shit right here is why a lot of us are going to turn our backs on superdad. It's not that we're not open to another Superman running around. I'm seriously not. But you mother fuckers gotta shit on our guy.

Seriously, why don't you just die? You're a useless sack of meat who can only make the same shit thread over and over and over.
>we
Oh, so you're also mentally ill. That explains why you're such a garbage poster. Still doesn't excuse it though.

Get cancer, squirrelfag. Please. The world would be a much better place without you.

Agreed. I prefer Superdad to Superbro, but this "guys he's so much better than Bro" shit is just petty.

Squirrelfag, please make more threads so we can see Anger Boy's tantrums and infantile attempts at "self moderation" again

Please kill yourself, so this board could be less terrible.

Lol you've still got it, Anger Boy

You can stop shitposting and forcing this shitty meme now.

>admitting to ban-evading
GET HIM, MODS
And yes, you should kill yourself for being a squirrelfag/defending squirrelfag and not letting his garbage thread die.

>Golden Age did it, so it must be ok!

Not really taking sides in this shitflinging, but I really hate this argument. It's pure nonsense that ignores almost a century of character development and cherrypicks a few issues of the early 20th century just to support your argument. It's exactly like the "Batman should kill because he did it in the Golden Age" debate and both are stupid as hell.

But Golden Age Superman is one of his best eras, and unlike Batman killing, his rude crude attitude towards bullies and corporate assholes was very consistent. It's not lauded just because it's first (Batman's Golden Age starts off very mediocre) but because it's some of his defining work.

>But Golden Age Superman is one of his best eras

No, it really isn't. No one actually thinks this for any Golden-Age character barring Captain Marvel, let alone Superman. Silver-Age/Bronze-Age were always the era's Superman thrived in. Quit revising shit to make your argument look better, it's just pathetic.

>MODS

I think angerboy here *is* the mod.

Golden Age and Silver Age are absolutely Superman's best consistent runs. Superman, Captain Marvel and Wonder Woman are the best superhero comics the era had to offer.

It really is pretty consistent. I've read pretty much every comic pairing them and is always one of the three.

Wonder Woman is poison to Superman.

It looks cool, and if that curiosity of yours about the actual image makes you keep looking at it, then they did their job. That's pretty much all that matters.

I think that the disjointedness works. It brings back the idea of issue-to-issue threats for Superman to face while promoting a new concept for the character, an aspect of the universe, or something different entirely. Then again, Grant is one of the only writers that actually knows how to write a complete story without it stretching 4 issues and 2 crossovers

See, this shit right here is what put many people off Nu52 Superman and Nu52 in general.

Yes, Morrison tried to do his Bruce Springsteen take on Superman, FOR ALL OF 3 FUCKING ISSUES, which was nothing, really. He just dangled some guy from a rooftop.

But then you had several instances where the writers would scream at the readers "THIS NEW VERSION OF SUPERMAN IS YOUNGER, EDGIER AND FUCKING BOINKERS, MAN! HE'S NOT YOUR DADDY'S SUPERMAN!" which was totally false in the actual stories, but still managed to leave an impression.

They wanted to advertise the Nu52 Superman as edgy constantly, despite that being 100% truth, and i don't know... i really don't know why they wanted that, but the people that refrained from reading the comics bought it and stayed away from the comics.

Superman needs Lois.

See, it's like meme-magic. The idea of Superman and Lois together is so strong in the human's conscious that when the publisher try to reinvent both characters and refrain from doing that, people's mind just reject it despite sometimes being initially interested in the new status quo. It's just something that doesn't fit in their brains. Like a a body rejecting a new organ.

Peter Parker sold his future child's soul to the devil, dude...

She didnt exist yet so she doesnt count

There's nothing special about shippers shipping.

How can you call yourself a superhero if you make evil incarnate happy?

When will the real Captain marvel come back and kill Carol?

The WW/SM ship was written to fail. It was part of the plan, goofy as that is. Unfortunately it just lends strength to the OTP. Onitis shit that happens any time there's an alternate ship in any media. It makes it all boring.

I thought they were pushing Carol, why does it seems like they want us to think she's an unlikable asshole?

No he admitted that the current superman looks older and more experienced than the nu52 superman who just died.

>Reading comprehension

Get some

I'm not talking about shipping, though.

I'm talking about how almost the entire world think of Superman. You can't change a core facet of such a famous character and expect people to roll with it. It's in the human's conscious and no reboot will change it.

Superman's movies and TV shows all feature heavily his romance with Lois, so that's what 90% of people expect to see. They want the dorky Clark, the charming Superman, the headstrong Lois, the weird love triangle between the three and the resolution where Clark tells the truth to Lois and they end up happy ever after. That's the world's Superman.

Yes, you can reboot shit. You can do a new take. You can mix things up. But honestly? People more often than not will feel uneasy about it. Look at MoS, look at Superbro.

>not recognizing bait
keep lurking

>Not realizing Cred Forums doesn't read comics and will get triggered by what someone says even if it's a lie

>Am I the only one that's actually read Morrison's Action Comics run?

We're talking about a board whose buyfags don't necessarily read half of what they purchase.
Saying you're in the minority here would be an understatement.

>buying something
>not reading it
but why

The problem is that there was never a SM/WW romance done right, not even in Elseworlds were the writers are free to do whatever they want.

Beats me.
I mean, yes, I also make the occasional blind purchase, but that doesn't mean I'll just let it rot.

This is devolving from trolling into insanity.

I'm not trolling nor am insane.

All i'm trying to say is that thanks to media exposure people that know of Superman have a very particular image of Superman and that image is hard to shake-off. So when rebooting the character you've a harder time truing to sell the new take.

It's like a movie where Shaft is a fat white guy or a Ghostbuster reboot with an all female cast. People just will have a hard time accepting the new product.

he's right

New 52 edgy Superman was the biggest mistake of the New 52 and a terrible Superman.

Thank goddess he's gone and the Real Superman is back.

>real Superman
>real Captain Marvel

None of it is real, user. It's all pretend.

I've been waiting three years to say this.
>NOT MUH SUPERBRO

See the problem with your logic is that it overlooks the fact that "new" doesn't mean better or even necessary. We didn't NEED Superman to undergo a Poochiefication, just like we didn't NEED a ghostbusters reboot.

Nobody's going to congradulate you on your square wheels no matter how many times you insist they're innovative.

Nah, Nu52 Superman and Nu52 Captain Marvel (I refuse to call him Shazam. You can't stop me) are nothing but fakes.

Plus Rebirth Superman is the Real Superman.

>The problem is that there was never a SM/WW romance done right, not even in Elseworlds were the writers are free to do whatever they want.

It works okay in Kingdom Come, but only after Lois is dead.

Still felt forced there too. And a lot of people died cause of it anyway.

>Grant Morrison and his terrible Action Comics run
this. His Batman was also garbage, why does he write comics?

I buy stuff to read while on break at work, so it takes me a while to churn through my backlog when I'm reading at a rate of like 30 minutes/day.

I read it with his voice. It fit particularly well with the tone of the OP.

>It works okay in Kingdom Come

Superman was cranky old man that had forsaken the world because he felt betrayed by the people's jury went acquitted Magog from Joker's murder.
Wonder Woman was a disgraced amazon who was desperately trying to regain her prestige as the amazons and world's champion.

Wonder Woman took advantage of a vulnerable and guilt-ridden Superman to try and goad him into a war against the new violent and careless heroes that had sprung in his absence.

Throughout the course of the comic Wonder Woman became more and more extreme in her blood-lust to the point where she was advocating for the execution of the Gurlag's prisoners and who wanted to proceed with the meta-human war even when things was getting dire. It took getting shamed by Batman during the war and being impregnated by Superman full of babies later for her to finally mellow out.

Superman likewise let himself being pushed by Wonder Woman and get more and more violent and careless during the war against the so called "violent and careless new meta heroes" to the point where humanity was so afraid they dropped a nuke on their battlefield to settle the war and he only woke up to his mistakes when Captain Marvel sacrificed himself to stop the nuke.

Nah, man. Kingdom Come was what started the whole mess in these Elseworlds type of stories where SM/WW is a thing and they try to take the world. It is the proto-Injustice.

Agreed. When SM/WW is done, the relationship is based on power lust and it usually comes from WW's side, and a lot of people end up dying in the end.

Which is too bad, their personalities are honestly pretty compatible. I'd never want it, Wonder Woman just getting absorbed into Batman or Superman's supporting cast is awful, but as characters they could work just fine. Elseworlds always pair their worst selves (based usually on meta expectations more than anything), and SM/WW was based on those Elseworld portrayals.

I think it's more that "Post-Crisis" Superman is basically the version of Superman most comic fans love BECAUSE it humanized Superman to the point of being truly human and relatable by the common fanboy.

It's one of the main reasons why Silver Age God-Mod Dickhead Love Triangle Superman became persona non grata after DECADES of being the definitive version.

As for Golden Age Superman, Morrison just fucking did a god-awful shitty job what people liked about Golden Age/Earth 2 Superman. Which ironically WASN'T the old 40s era comics version, but the 70s version of Golden Age Superman who was allowed to grow as a character, marry Lois Lane, etc and do all of the things that status quo Silver Age Superman was never allowed to do. Things that, over time, were carried over to Post-Crisis Superman.

Darkseid War happened while the events of Superman: Lois And Clark mini-series happened.

The problem is that they pair Superman and Wonder Woman, not Clark and Diana.

The fact that Wonder Woman address Superman as "Kal" pretty much tells us how the writers view their dynamic. She sees Superman as just that: Superman.

>Implying nu-52 Superman could've been better than the original

That said, you are a huge faggot if you had a problem with Morrison's take on 'golden age like' Superman or the nu-52 Superman in general who had good, but not great, runs all around. The lows of the old Superman were much lower, which is understandable because the character has been around for a while.

Yeah, their relationship is always based less on personality or motivations or common interests and more on the Woman of Kleenex issue. It's a pairing driven by a shitty comic argument only idiots could care about.

I've picked on over the years how DC handle the "TRINITY" interaction.

Superman and Batman are pretty much depicted as brothers, with Batman usually shown as the cranky older brother and Superman as the dorky younger brother. Sometimes Superman is shown as the cool charming brother and Batman as the weirdo creepy brother.

Superman and Wonder Woman are depicted as those long-time friends who secretly want to fuck each other, but don't know how to approach the subject, with the reason for the desire mostly based on superficial reasons: they're both hot, they gel, they'd totally fit, but when it actually happens it generally ends bad.

Batman and Wonder Woman are depicted as bickering old couples. I'm not even talking about shipping, but their general interaction. Batman's mostly doing something stupid or rude which frustrate or anger Wonder Woman, and Wonder Woman's mostly forcing Batman to do something he doesn't want to or constantly teasing his weird behaviors.

I thought New 52 Action Comics was pretty good
I didn't think it was amazing but I don't really see why it gets so much shit and I didn't feel that it was 'edgy' at all

Dedicated troll. He'll be doing this for a while so strap in.

Morrisons action comics was good and the 1st 6 issues were a throwback to the Golden age superman in the 30s/40s

Also fuck you

If anything, Nu52 Superman was more mopey, than edgy.

Good job being an illiterate retard or at best a fishmonger of low quality bait.

Superdad was new to this planet. He already saw that this world had it's own superman so he didn't feel the need to intervene. He still did get involved in his own adventures but he did so discreetly cause he now has a family he cares about.

This is not a hard concept to understand. Seriously.

Well said

He had a little phase, but honestly Nu52 Superman was refreshingly optimistic and lighthearted as a guy. I'd say Post-Crisis Superman was way more mopey and kind of a wet blanket by comparison. He's a mid-life crisis mixed with a Messiah complex, while New 52 Superman mostly took things day by day and had fun whenever he had the chance.

One of the things I don't like about Post-Crisis Superman compared to Golden, Silver or New 52 iterations, is that it always seemed like it sucked to be Superman.

What? Nu52 Superman was constantly depressed, more so Greg Pak's version that anyone else, but still. Peter Tomasi's version was also miserable as fuck.

It's not bait if it is True.

Nu52 Superman is terrible. The best thing about him was his funeral and the REAL Superman coming back.

But your posting one of the best moments? What exactly is your argument?

What's crazy is Superman had just about as many good writers on his book in the 5 years since the New 52 started, as he had in about 25 years between CoIE and Flashpoint. That's literally insane.

Pak had him flop between depressed and happy a whole lot, but honestly I did not read much of Tomasi's New 52 Superman. I was low on funds and couldn't afford many comics at the time.

>What's crazy is Superman had just about as many good writers on his book in the 5 years since the New 52 started, as he had in about 25 years between CoIE and Flashpoint. That's literally insane.

That is a lie.

kek. nu52perman was wrong.

>Responding to these bait ass threads

We've already established that people who don't like both Pre and new52 Superman are faggots

>still pushing this shit "meme"
Pathetic ban-evader.

I wanna know how this shit thread is still alive. Are our mods that damn inept?

Looks like they're making it autosage, but it still took them 11 hours to do so.

Would you just give it a rest and go back to looking at hentai already

>he ban-evades
>he bumps this shit thread out of spite like a petty child
>he calls other juvenile
How cute. Go back to serving your ban now.
>autosage
As if. Apparently our mods can't be arsed to do even that.
>Cred Forums """"""""""""""moderation""""""""""""""

Billy and Carol /ss when?

>bumps thread out of spite

Can you blame me when your responses are this hilariously overblown?

Yes, I can blame you for being a fucking faggot. Now fuck off.

I was not disappointed. Thank you ;)

>LOOK MOM, I'M TROLLING AIN'T I EBIN XDD
And you think me asking you to commit suicide is "overblown". You really should go through with it at this point. It's the only solution for someone like you.

Who hurt you, user?

>getting this lazy in fishing for (You)s
FIne, ban-evader. Have another one, just leave already.

I'm not squirrelfag or whoever. I'm legitimately curious because I've never seen someone this triggered before.

And I'm legitimately curious why you're an idiot bumping a garbage thread and shitposting like a retard, so fuck off.

>I'm not squirrelfag
Uh-huh. Sure.

Are you trolling or are you really this pathetic?

Take care of yourself user.

I don't think you have any right to call anyone else pathetic.
Die already.