THE 4TH ANNUAL NIGHT OF THE WERE-ED

Ed's been bitten by a feral electrical plug

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At least she kept the monobrow

Bump

Damn conveniently placed VHS covers

Show of hands: Who's never read this before?

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Do you have the Emo playlist that goes with this? or is that only for the second chapter.

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>Sarah shrinks down to the size of a lawn gnome, as is her natural defense

Emo Playlist is for Part 2; Part 1 has more of a Michael Jackson's "Thriller" vibe

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He's got the same fucking mullet; don't act like you've gotta be Sherlock Holmes for this

Someone do How I Became Yours.

Did the girl who made this go on to create something decent later on?

Ah yes, who could forget Ed's signature Auburn Hair from the show

As well as Son Eddys 'do.

WHY, IT'S AN INANIMATE CARBON ROD

Not really, but she's done enough to have a Pateron, apparently.

Part 3 is a legitimate Magnum Opus in my book though.

But it isn't Halloween. I mean we can do it multiple times, but is this really the right time for it? I'm ready though, I love when this is done.

Take a shot every time Kevin is useless in this comic; you're get surprisingly plastered.

>It honestly never gets old

This comic is a genuine gift from on high. The fact the author nails the voices right is what makes it different from your random HIBY and equivalents.

I've done this for four straight years; the October 1st Storytime came FIRST, then the Halloween one.

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>patreon

Hot dog! Definitely gonna look into that.

>Happy October, Everyone!
You too. I'll literally stab you if you beat me to this on Halloween itself

Have a great thread and remember I know where you live

Ed's got that "Sorry about the herpes" look in the last panel

It's just so fucking genuine and endearing; I can't help but honestly adore it.

>the 4th
Holy shit, I haven't killed myself yet.
Should be Valentine's day.

Oh goody I was scared I was gonna miss it again this year.

I'm reading it in their voices, and losing it.

>Either we put marginal effort towards locking them up once or month, or we kill them
>Well, I'll get the gun

Fuck you, Kev

I've got dibs on the October 1st one; y'all can make due with the Halloween dump

That's clearly just a fox with mange.

It gets so much fucking better.

I feel the same way. Hang in there, user

>I'm reading it in their voices, and losing it.
Just wait till it becomes a fucking Hunter: The Vigil crossover with Vampire

Nazz getting real casual with that "Haha, you wanted to murder two of our friends" line in the last panel

Really? We do these on the 1st?

Everyone in panel 4 is just waiting for them to start fucking.

>Tfw late to the thread
At least it's not by much

>"LET'S DO THE EXACT OPPOSITE OF WHAT WE PLANNED!"

Fuck you, they've always been on the 1st.

I was going to sleep soon for work but I want to see if I can make it to the third one, which is where all the 'this is fun and I kind of like it a little bit' moments all come to a climax. It is a fucking trip.

Gee, it's a good thing you dipshits decided to go rogue because no one bothered to lock or block the fucking window to the full moon.

I hope y'all enjoy overly drawn out transformation sequences, because they're all over the fucking place.

>Primal Urges must be met
>I'veSeenEnoughHentai.jpg

You've at least got to make it to Part 2 to see Vampire Kankers

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Dude, I know. I did this one on a previous Halloween and then once at Easter because I was bored.

People never expect Night of the Were-Ed on other holidays!

Fucking based Rolf

I want everyone to look at Johnny. They're all going into the lion's den here. Not everyone may make it back out, and the explicit goal is to murder a hellbeast. One way or another, blood is being spilled tonight.

And Johnny could not be more fucking amped for it.

Well, that plan worked for all of three seconds. Good job gang.

Anyone got the Night of the WereEd playlist to listen while reading

Johnny's so excited to be included.

see

Bloodborne with Rolf.
Someone get to the drawthread

Double D striking that Thriller pose in Panel 3

I tried so fucking hard to find it, but I couldn't. I hope someone posts it.

In the meantime, just listen to Thriller, Werewolves of London, and Evanescence

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Valentines day is for hastily throwing bad food together to impress /ck/ and that's it.

>Ed attacked people because he's a dumbass

Sounds fair. Also, notch one on your "Double Mary Sue D" counter

It won't be the last

>Evanescence
Not till book 2 when the World of Darkness begins to intrude more firmly

I have no fucking clue what order the panels on this page are suppose to go.

youtube.com/playlist?list=PLiVGbZaO-21pe9dmziheK1OWQE_2kzZbe
right here

>AIE

aeiou

Top to bottom

>Double Dracula

Glowing weakspot like a fucking boss battle.

>youtube.com/playlist?list=PLiVGbZaO-21pe9dmziheK1OWQE_2kzZbe

HOLY SHIT, THANK YOU!

THIS IS REQUIRED FUCKING LISTENING

Werewolves explode, apparently. Fun fact.

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This actually makes me want to play the Castlevania Legacy of Darkness again.

How long do you think she hovered over him looking like that?

Soon

Nazz in that last panel makes my neck hurt.

How many nights in a row can you have a full moon?

I'll do it tomorrow if there's interest.

>Johnny is giving Ed the succ

>That last panel

"IT'S JUST A GREASY SPOON..."
"JUST A GREASY SPOON..."
"WITHOUT YOOOOOOOUUUUUUUU!"

I think only one in a month, the days leading up and after are waxing and waning.

Like three? But the flanking ones are a tiny bit less than full.

>"IT'S JUST A GREASY SPOON..."
>"JUST A GREASY SPOON..."
>"WITHOUT YOOOOOOOUUUUUUUU!"
oh my god

And Part 1 is in the books! Believe it or not, this was the "Normal" chapter. Shit's gonna start going off the walls in Part 2.

Storytime will continue in about 5-10 minutes; gonna go grab a snack. Talk amongst yourselves.

What other threads are you guys in?

Every time this is posted, every single time, even though I know it won't, I'm still surprised it doesn't turn into gay porn.

Now that the stage is set, my body is ready for the REAL insanity

youtube.com/watch?v=5weu3HBJakw

There are so many panels where she could just slip "And then they fucked" in at the bottom and I wouldn't have batted a fucking eye.

I am so goddamn hype. I love sharing this story so much.

Save that for later; you'll need it.

I haven't.
I get an extremely vague Boondocks vibe from the artstyle (or at least I did until the comic actually started).

This all reminds me of a chatroom quote I saw years ago: "Im 11 years old and im goth"

Really captures the tone of this comic I think.

And we're back! Get ready, kids, because this where the ride starts going off the rails.

OFFICIAL THREAD PLAYLIST: youtube.com/watch?v=ITkIS4etnBA&list=PLiVGbZaO-21pe9dmziheK1OWQE_2kzZbe&index=4

Oh, you are going to LOVE this Chapter.

Night, friends. I'm sad I won't be up to read chapter 3 with all the newfriends but gotts work. Enjoy this wonderful disaster people

I don't want to say the art's gotten "better", but it's clear a LOT more effort has gone into it in this part. There's definitely some sort of progression in it.

Also, Ed's like an Archie Andrews lookalike now, which is fun

The art does improve

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>disaster
fite me

We'll miss you, man.

>Computed labeled "Hal"

It's the little things

This is my first time, too. I'm excited.

Double D clearly isn't a Kopite

Also, Cred Forums's making me wait a full minute between posts, which is annoying as shit; sorry folks

so why does Eddy have goku hair, always bothered me. Always figured he'd have something more akin to Kira Yoshikage's mature hair cut from the end of Part 4 then that mess on his head.

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>He hasn't read up to the part where Eddy goes Super Saiyan

Fucking title screens; we're getting legit now

>Four Years

IT'S JUST A JUMP TO THE LEFT....

>would you care to join me in an evening stroll?
and then they fucked

>Eddy as Kira
well, time to visit the drawthread

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>Filthy Dog

Kinky

NIce steamy armpit

Ooh, baby.

>You will never have a steaming hot trailer trash stalker tackle you

Why live?

>YEOWTCH

You ever get thrown so hard you have a bruise on the opposite side of the head that got hit?

Rev up your Evanescence boys and grils.

>Panel arrows

Fancy dancy

>Waking intensifies.jpg

(CANT WAKE UP)

better than Aaron Diaz

still better than gunnershitfail

I think we've lost our host.

Shit, computer crashed for a minute. Back now though

ALSO, GUSTAD, NO!!!!

F

ROLF HAS A SOUL PATCH GUYS

THIS COMIC BELONGS IN THE NATIONAL ARCHIVES

Yeah, sorry; ran into some technical difficulties.

Fun fact
This is one of two times the death of a chicken is involved in an EEnE fancomic

Jimmy's managed to become more effeminate looking than Sarah or Nazz. Good for him; follow your dreams, kids.

I pray someone here can dump the ghost chicken as a nightcap.

notices how Johnny's hair has a sleeping face

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May and Lee got some strong pimp game

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Double D, you're supposed to be smart; you never picked up a fucking copy of Dracula or anythng?

Way to lay on the guilt trip, Double Dick.

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What the fuck is Hawthorn? Is a vampire weak to House of the Seven Gables?

Holy kek, I am definitely too sober for this.

Leave it to Eddward to be intelligent while being an asshole.

>sci-ficlopedia.com

someone needs to register this site so we can use it as a wiki for Curse of The Were-Ed and its lore.

So where exactly did the whole "vampires and werewolves hate each others guts" come from anyway?

It's a shrub.

Alright, to recap

1. Rolf has an absolutely amazing soul patch
2. Kevin's sporting a goddamn rat tail
3. Johnny has a mohawk, further cementing him as the one who will probably warn the Eds to wear red one Friday because he "Always liked them"
4. Nazz has gone strapless
5. Jimmy has somehow become even MORE effeminate
6. ROLF HAS A MOTHERFUCKING SOUL PATCH, YOU GUYS

I'd say he's more of a Frankenstein's monster fan.

Vampries are weak to a specific fucking bush?

You forgot the fact that Sarah has some tiddies now.

That day was so fun

Nazz with the "We're all 16 and this kid's still talking to a plank of wood" look

Shit, he could totally fill in for Viktor on Penny Dreadful

They're weakened by bloody fucking everything now, aren't they?

And Baldur could only be killed by an arrow made of Mistletoe.
Mythology doesn't always make sense.

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Back when the image limit was 150 and bump limit was 300 on Cred Forums.

It took at least 4 or 5 threads before it got finished.

The author honestly does an impressive amount of mythos building for her shitty Ed, Edd, n' Eddy fancomic

Jimmy's looking real pretty in that first panel...

Oh boy oh boy.
I remember reading this for the first time last year, literally one of those "I laughed until my sides physically hurt and I almost legit pissed myself" moments.

>Arthur meme.jpg

>I'm heading out to see if I can discover what the fuck happened to your legs, Eddy

I think its the fact that the tongue colors are all accurate that shows just how much she cares.

Gotta respect that.

If you haven't already, go get your middle school mixtape ready...

This is an underrated fact; in spite of everything, it's clear this is a work of love.

Ready!
youtube.com/watch?v=Jc73MRZiVuM

I've got Come As You Are playing at the moment, if that counts.

>Knows for a fact she's a fucking vampire
>Opens the door anyway

Double D, you're the dumbest genius.

Anyone know anything better than Evanescence?
youtube.com/watch?v=58nEqHMB7nI&

Those should work; I, as always, will be going with Bring Me to Life

Marie's waist is vanishing by the minute.

I will die of shame if anyone catches me listening to this

So it said the werewolf thing was 4 years ago.

That makes them all 16 now?

I like how we never got an explination for who the first werewolf was.

For all we know, it was just another scared and confused kid from the next cul-de-sac over who the gang all got together and murdered.

Too fucking bad; deal with it.

youtube.com/watch?v=czLYl4fM8yk

Maybe it was just an infected dog carrying lycanism?

SAAAAAAAVE MEEEEEEE

Alright folks, here it comes. For the next few pages, find your most emo 7th grade jam to be listening to as you read along. You won't get the full experience without it!

Again, I recommend Bring Me to Life, but you do you.

Well he says right there that it was an infected dog.

And since it was a dog even during the daylight hours, there's nothing to suggest it had a human form.

You're killing me user.

WAKE ME UP!

WAKE ME UP INSIDE!

I CAN'T WAKE UP!

The teen culledesac kids are both unexpected and completely expected

SAVE MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

TEAR MY HEART OPEN

WAKE ME UP INSIDE!

SAVE ME!

CAN'T WAKE UP!

Well Edd's gotten kinky in his sweet 16s.

>that's why you jumped me last night
woah!

SAVE ME FROM THE NOTHING I'VE BECOME!

>Werewolves and vampires
>science fiction
U wot

Stop.

>Heart's pounding
>Blood pumping
>Knees weak
>Mom's spaghetti

BID MY BLOOD TO RUN

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>The Insertion

Oh yes, Double D, there's gonna be some inserting...

The best part is Marie's eyes bugging out at the bottom like it's a harem comedy anime

Crap, I'm late! Fucking time zone differences...

This is just deliciously bad. Probably my favourite Cred Forums tradition ever.

IT'S DOUBLE DRACULA TIME!!!

>NO, DOUBLE D, DON'T!

GLOSSY BLACK

>like it's a harem comedy anime
the dialogue in this scene feels straight out of Fate or Tsukihime

Bela Lugosi died for this

BEHOLD, THE FACE OF DOUBLE WEREWOLF DRACULA D!

OTHER MARY SUES TREMBLE IN HIS WAKE!

Also, what's that going on in the last panel?

Y'all are the best.

How many Cred Forums traditions still persist?

Because it feels like a lot of them have been dying out.

At least the Serenity Christmas storytime is still a thing.

OH GOD, PLANK HAS BECOME AND INSTRUMENT OF DEATH

THERE'S NO CLOSING THE LID ON THE BOX OF HORRORS THAT HAS BEEN UNLEASHED

THEY'RE ALL FUCKED

WE'RE ALL FUCKED

THE WORLD IS FUCKED

Mother fucker I never miss this shit.

Goddamn PROUD to be on my 4th tour of this CUHRAZEE adventure!

Top fucking kek
I forgot about hybrid double d

WHAT

EDDY, YOU SUAVE LOOKING MOTHERFUCKER, SWEET ASS JACKETS AREN'T ENOUGH TO WIELD THE HAMMER OF THE GODS

Plank is looking real sharp there.

Eddy's going full Peter Vincent up in here.

>PLANK STAKE
LITERALLY TURNING A RETARDED KIDS FRIEND INTO A WEAPON
gets me unnaturally pumped every time

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>his brothers jacket
DEEPEST LORE

When we're all done is there a mega download link for this? I think I know a discord chat channel that might appreciate this experience.

Eddy, wielding a weaponized Plank, rides a Werewolf Ed into battle with Vampire Kankers as Double Werewolf Dracula D races to join them.

This Comic is a masterpiece of Western Art.

There all in highs cool at this point right, because it is 4 years later
Which ones are virgins

THREAD THEME

youtube.com/watch?v=8wUixhV13gI

I'll admit, I've never actually watched EEnE, but isn't Eddy supposed to be fat?

youtube.com/watch?v=N3472Q6kvg0

AND THEY RUN WHEN THE SUN COMES UP

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DO IT.

Is there a way to nominate this to get into the Library of Congress or something?
Start a campaign to get the author to make more?
Cause holy shit this comic has brought me so much joy.

No he's just short.

>Mythology doesn't always make sense.
There's a legit fucking reason given in-myth. Everything in the world gave their word that they would never harm Baldur, except mistletoe, who was either overlooked or ignored for being too young (referencing how children can't sign contracts). Baldur is killed by a dart/spear carved from it. It's used as a symbol of truce and friendship after that.

AND YOU Fucking garlic is fine but a bush isn't?

>How do you kill a vampire?
>However you fucking want, they're not real.

Marie's little dash-in from Stage Left always makes me laugh

100% on board with that petition.

Oh God, even his speech bubbles are black and red.

>Vampire Hunter Double D

>that face

May wants that wolf-dick bad....

Foreshadowing

>Come over
>Can't I'm a vampire
>I'm a werewolf who wants to bone

DO IT, EDDY

PIERCE THE FLESH

LET PLANKS UNQUENCHABLE THIRST FOR BLOOD BEGIN

Nigga let the newbies find out like the rest of us

And here come the street sign captchas, fuck.

HATE SEX IS BEST SEX!

Also, Kevin was useless; take a shot.

kek; I love you

WHAT MAN HAS A RIGHT TO DENY A PLANK HIS BLOODSHED

Surprise: The Villain is generic vampire villain #17

>Mays buttcrack

I didn't notice that first time I read this.

nice

You know this page fell out of some sweatpant-wearing girl's binder on her way to 7th grade math class and made get super embarrassed in front of all her friends.

Even in wolf form, the tongue color remains true.

Who the fuck is this guy

Woah, hey guys, welcome to EB Games

What is this shit and why can't I stop reading it?

>Which is why he's all the way up here

Ah, you can tell he's generic because if you said that was Kirito I'd believe you.

>FUCK YOU! KARLOFF DOESN'T DESERVE TO SMELL MY SHIT! THAT LIMEY COCKSUCKER CAN ROT IN HELL FOR ALL I CARE.

Nice pumpkin, Jimmy.

Of course. Nintendo-nut is NO hack! She is not the artist we deserve, but the artist we NEED!

>pumpkins football helmet
How

Double Werewolf Dracula D is so Mary Sue his battles don't even have to be on screen.

It's wonderful, isn't it? Just let it seep in, like background radiation.

Double Werewolf Dracula D reminds me of the trolls from David The Gnome.

>Eddy, wielding a weaponized Plank, rides a Werewolf Ed into battle with Vampire Kankers as Double Werewolf Dracula D races to join them.
And people say white folks got no culture.

reading the comic to this version of the song was the smartest thing I've done in recent memory kek

youtube.com/watch?v=dfyNnUgK8qE

Look at this sassy motherfucker strike his pose while he monologues.

I like to read Double Dracula's dialog in the voice of Dan Green.

>BITCH THE FUCK YOU SAY?!

OH god. I don't think I can handle this. After the goofy one this is too much.

Someone recommended Steve Blum once, and I haven't been able to unhear it.

>Dem fat Lee torpedo titties

So, Kirito became a vampire and infiltrated the Cul-de-Sac? sounds plausible

>that middle bottom panel
damn

All that fighting, and Marie just walks up and fucking Three Stooges them.

This is absolutely perfect.

>May's got one of those long, flat butts that still manages to make ass-cleavage
kek

Seriously, looking at generic vampire guy just makes me see Kirito.

Making fun of SAO in the toonami threads was great. We were doing that last year not too long before last year's storytime.

BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD PLANK

Johnny is clearly a sociopath

The fact that this vampire guy is just some nameless OC rando is the only objectively bad/disappointing part of this entire comic.

I would have loved for it to be, like, Rolf's Nana or Evil Tim or something.

The gang is lucky all their enemies keep disappearing when they die, or else there'd be a couple misshapen plots of dirt in the back of Rolf's farm right now.

Victor the goat would've been my choice.

This reminds me
WHERE THE FUCK are there parents

youtube.com/watch?v=WM33Hr94SKw

RULES OF NATURE

>another full moon
I may not know much about lunar cycles but that seems wrong to me

>We did absolutely nothing useful again, as always!

Evil Vampire Rolf Nana is something I need now. Tell Nintendo-Nut to crank out Part 4, Stat!

Shit, I wonder how much a Double Werewolf Dracula Heart goes for on eBay

It's guaranteed that the author drew porn of the were eds having homosex right?

What would they even do in a 4th part?

Fight gods?

RIPIP In Peace Double Werewolf Dracula D

He died the way he lived: as a Double Werewolf Dracula

I'M SORRY! I KNOW I SHOULDN'T IMAGE POST DURING A STORY TIME! BUT I MUST!

lol, jk, mary sues don't die

They would fight demons Doom-style.

youtube.com/watch?v=hzPpWInAiOg

Legit laughed

>then Jake Long picked up Kirito's head and ran away
there, I gave you another ridiculous idea

I am filled with quieted laughter.

Kek

A. Like I said, I really don't give a shit about "Storytime Etiquette", so post away; I can make more threads.
B. That is a work of goddamn art

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Eddy copping a lowkey feel there.

>Meeting in the fucking junkyard

Double D, you goddamn Casanova.

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You two are literally sitting in a heap of fucking trash.

Not far off.

>Because this time, I got something more.
A boner?

Atta boy Double D.

DAMMIT MAN! THIS IS A CHRISTIAN IMAGE BOARD!

Ooooohboy, that time of year already? I missed these threads.

AND THEN MARIE GOT SOME OF THAT SWEET DOUBLE WEREWOLF DRACULA DICK, AND SHIT WAS SO CASH

That's the end of Part 2, Folks. If you can, PLEASE stick around for Part 3. I'm actually considering making a new thread for it, because shit goes so far off the fucking rails. You haven't even SEEN crazy yet.

We'll pick back up in about 10-15 minutes. If you've got an opinion on whether or not we should start a new thread or just cross our fingers and try to ride out this one, let me know.

CUE END CREDITS

youtube.com/watch?v=SRWrKZKCNJg

YOU TWO ARE LITERALLY FUCKING ON TOP OF A GARBAGE PILE

>I'm actually considering making a new thread for it
You really should.

>chu
fgsfds
youtube.com/watch?v=G9W7ZU1-0l0

I'm sure they'll take it to the old van with the shag carpeting.

Junk pile, completely different

>double d was the first Ed to lose virignity
Was there ever any doubt

We're 128 images in with this thread; image limit is 250. I think we can still make it using this thread.

Make a new thread a cross-link us my dude!

Gentlemen, I cannot go onward for I must retire to my quarters. It was a fun read and I thank our host, MulletMan, for making it so.

Happy October!

If this actually happened in the cartoon
>Smelly smelly smelly...
>This is NOT an appropriate spot for romance!

Didn't it have a water bed in it

Actually, Listen to this guy We can squeeze it in.

I believe so.

>isn't powered to stay up using the full moon
Confirmed for non werewolf background character

Good night!

Confirmed for first time reading.

What's the bump limit though? I think if we're approaching it, plus with people replying/reacting, another thread should be made.

500

Nigga I ain't got the page number memorized.
And honestly has me convinced.

If we're going to start reacting with images then it may require another.

Weird that Sarah didn't transform despite clearly getting scratched up pretty bad.

Eh, Part 3 is about 80-something pages by itself. And like said, if you know what's coming, you know that there's gonna be a lot of reaction images thrown in with that.

I think I'm going with the New Thread option. Give me a minute, and I'll link you all there.

Good night user; thanks for joining us!

INTERMISSION THREAD THEME!

youtube.com/watch?v=_UbGtjnluyY

WARNING! SPOOKY!

Not bitten
Scratched and licked

We still have 122 image slots left, pretty sure the last story isn't quite that long.

Yet it usually takes a scratch in most cases with werewolves.

Hot damn! Why must this be on a night I have work in the morning.

Always a pleasure, hope everyone enjoys it.

I've done this a lot; every year, I THINK we have enough room, and every year I end up having to make a new thread for the last ten pages or so because of the reactions.

Not this year. This year we're going all-in

NEW THREAD!!!!!!!

I really fucking hate how perfectly this song goes with this scene
I'd bet money she was listening to this while writing it

First timer here
Thanks OP
I ache for a Tails gets trolled type of thing and I hope this is in the same vein

Bumping for my first time.

first thime. lessgo

And welcomed. I'm buckled up and hyped at 5:30 in the morning. This month going to be good.

tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/FurAgainstFang

Honestly hard to say. It got popular through Old world of darkness.But it is older than that.

Is that an exact replica of the American Werewolf transformation scene?

>"It's pretty common knowledge..."
>That thing you just learned about 5 minutes ago
Fuck you Double-D

>That Double Werewolf Dracula D
Did the illustrator of Ava's Demon draw this?

we do it over and over again during October, each person thinking they're the special storytimer.
... but that's okay, because not every Cred Forumsmrade is here 24/7, and stuff falls off page 10. It's the shared experience that counts, it's not like we do it for social status like a tripfag accumulating upvotes.

I'm so glad this thread is still here.

>Plank stake
Every. Goddamn. Time.

Is it worth reading this whole thing at once, or should I just wait until it gets storytimed again on the 31st?

I think it'd be better to wait so you can read it with everyone else

First timer here. I never knew why i missed this and I've been coming here for years.

It gets posted pretty frequently.

It's strangely perfect.
It's so stupid but I can't actually fault it.

October is always tainted because of Scary Godmother.
Cred Forums Christmas is the undisputed best time on the board, though.
I need to do more digging to find some of the more obscure Christmas comics.

Yes please.
Can there be geocite-esque gifs everywhere too?