Last we saw him he was being tortured in front of the Ultimate Thor hammer...

Last we saw him he was being tortured in front of the Ultimate Thor hammer... before that he was worthy again and doing a heroic sacrifice alongside Hyperion... but hes apparently appearing in The Unworthy Thor? Even though he should be worthy?

Was it ever revealed what Fury whispered? I can't imagine any revelation that would make Thor unworthy that could be undone by a willingness to sacrifice himself... but did Thor ever not have that?

I don't get it Cred Forums. Can someone explain what's going on with Odinson?

I've been looking at FemThor comics just to see where Odinson is, but we've gotten basically nothing.

(also, people keep talking about how much better Female Thor sells- do they not realise that its only because male comic readers are forced to stay to discover what happened to Odinson? I guarantee a huge sales drop when Unworthy Thor comes out)

>knows everything about Unworthy Thor
>still asks

the events leading up to and including the final incursion never happened. when the Richards remade the multiverse, they started 616 from just before then and only a few characters know this (Black Panther, via time gem. Loki, via being god of stories and just going to the future, Thanos, via being outside the universe)
so the stuff Thor did to become worthy again never happened
>Was it ever revealed what Fury whispered?
right now all signs point towards what he whispered being for Mjolnir, not Thor. Maybe some secret, maybe words of power. either way, it was recently demonstrated what a lot of had suspected that Mjolnir has become fully self-aware and sentient, which is probably because of what Fury whispered. 'Worthy' is now a meaningless pretense. You can now only pick up Mjolnir if it wants you to pick it up.

as for why, there's a few possible keikakus but the most obvious answer is that Mjolnir realized Odin was being currupted by his brother the Serpent, and dealing with that for the sake of Asgard would require fighting Odin. In such a fight even a split second of hesitation could result in Odin killing Thor. So Mjolnir decides it needs a new handler. Someone with a vested interest in the wellbeing of Asgard but with no loyalty or love for Odin, and even better, someone who would not be willing to just give up Mjolnir if push comes to shove. Jane is perfect for that, since she's Earth's ambassador on Asgard, and while using Mjolnir she can't feel how close she is to dying of cancer

My main question is about the furywhisperthing- if that was answered anywhere i don't know about, or if there was any other clues about what it might have been. And why the hell is he unworthy AGAIN.

I give you headcanon:

Yes, he shows up as the title character in The Unworthy Thor despite being worthy, but that's simply because he's worthy enough to recognize the hammer Mjolnir does not need define him.
No, what Fury whispered has yet to be revealed, but ... Nietzsche might have a theory about it.
And I can imagine several presumption-shattering secrets that would make mighty Thor react in emotions of an unworthy manner, given that some values of worthiness have already been disclosed over the years: among them respecting and valuing the lives of mighty Thor's lessers.

Yes, obviously someone can explain what's going on: Marvel's writers for one.

FemThor wasn't intended to only keep the readers waiting for their masculine idol to return, the story was meant to be a jumping on point to introduce to a whole new readership the entire Thor world through fresh eyes. That new blood is what accounts for the readership bump. Once the Thor book is split into two titles the numbers will change.

Stopped reading after the fourth word

The worthiness still applies because Thor Odinson was presumably outside the universe also when reality was remade and it doesn't matter if the past events themselves were wiped from history because the change to Thor Odinson's worthiness is a matter of who he is.
And even if he was caught up in the retcon, Asgardians aren't like normal people, as gods they are more living narrative than living tangible beings of matter. So Thor Odinson is still a part of forces beyond space and time that would not have been affected by a universal relaunch.

Good for you, that was the right call.

while you're other points are right, Asgardians aren't immune to retcons. Loki makes explicit mention to 'stories that change older stories; aka retroactive continuity

though I think that may also have been more a dig on Ewing's part at how DC characters like Wonder Woman and the Hawks notoriously flipflop on their origin stories

But that's the trick, Loki's self-aware in regards to the retcons that have affected he himself.
Regardless of his special status as the god of lies, this is proof that Marvel gods like him are at least partially outside of their own narrative in a meta sense.
Thor himself used some very meta logic to pull himself back from nothing (literally, he was inside Entropy - another Marvel meta god) after Ragnarok.

>Thor himself used some very meta logic to pull himself back from nothing
oh yeah that was great. He just got bootstrapped back into existence via Don Blake

>Ewing will never be Marvel's top writer pulling the strings.

I hope he somehow defects to Valiant or another publisher.

I'd be okay with him defecting to DC, but I don't want Ewing to be taken out of the playground of continuity that is Big 2 comics

he can do crazy things in IDW. I just don't want to see him relegated to continuity clean up in Marvel.

I really doubt that anyone at Marvel is completely without influence and have their ideas shut out.
Last I heard, they run their creative department like a freakin' hippie commune where everyone brainstorms together.
Unless the guy's ideas are continuously shot down by everyone there wouldn't be a reason to jump ship.

I am thinking Bendis let Spencer dip his Captain Hydra on Civil War in exchange for Bendis getting some of that most likely future event Hydra Cap action because the Bendis Jessica Jones solicits say that Jessica discovers a really awful Hydra secret and it's why she's also in whatever bad situation she's going to be at that time.

Either that or Spencer was forced to share his toys with Bendis, who knows how these things go.

That's still stupid, because Odin was the one who put the enchantment on the hammer and its power comes from him. Odin has been shown to have total control over it in the past.

>he can do crazy things in IDW.
Ewing on ROM or Transformers, yesssssss.

well there's a couple ways you can read it
A) since Mjolnir has been in more stories than Odin, it has eclipsed his relevance and become self-sustaining
B) since Odin has been corrupted by The Serpent, Mjolnir no longer recognizes his admin privileges
C) whatever Nick uttered severed Odin's total control over it
D) when Loki carried the myth of the Asgardians from 616-7 to 616-8 he did a little editing for the mischief of it

"You're gay, hand twirl"

Look, it's dumb no matter how you spin. Odin is a skyfather and a galaxy buster. He's more powerful than Mjolnir by far. Him not being able to just override Jane's control is complete horseshit.

Well it's comic books after all, norm is think they go against their own lore all the time.

it's not Jane's control, though. It's Mjolnir's control. if it decided she wasn't allowed to pick it up anymore either there'd be nothing she could do about it

It stopped being about telling stories and started selling marketable stories. They wanted to be on the right side of history which is hypocritical in its own right rather than just genuinely be tolerant.

Yet she has "better" control than old Thor did, it was stated in her book.

fury whispered something to the hammer since the current series focuses on the hammer being sentient to the point of creating a jane body

But there's plenty Odin could do, which is the point. Also, Mjolnir being sentient is fucking stupid.

that's just how it looked from the outside.

Does anyone else think Jane's cancer is a shitty red herring? I doubt they'd kill her off after selling relatively well just to put old Thor on his book.

old thor will just get ultimate mjolnir and they'll coexist till one drops below 25k sales

>Special snowflake Jane
It's funny how much Aaron tried to push that like it meant something for Jane. Only thing Whor has done for the last couple years is let the hammer do everything. Lazy bitch.

The man makes the tool, the tool doesn't make the man. And Mjolnir will always be a tool no matter what magical bullshit sentience it achieves.

>(also, people keep talking about how much better Female Thor sells- do they not realise that its only because male comic readers are forced to stay to discover what happened to Odinson? I guarantee a huge sales drop when Unworthy Thor comes out)

That's not why I'm reading. Quit being a pathetic cuck and just accept people like the damn book.

You dont read comics. In the very first issue this point is brought up and even he doesn't know why it's happening. It's implied there is an unkown force behind Odinson's unworthiness and Mjolnir's disposition towards Jane.

You don't read comics. Skyfathers can just overpower Mjolnir's enchantment. Zeus has done it, and it's ridiculous that Odin couldn't.

>Skyfathers can just overpower Mjolnir's enchantment. Zeus has done it

No that is not a rule. You just pulled that image from Google images. Regardless whatever circumstances surrounded Mjolnir at the time is different from now. Again all this shit is lampshaded in the VERY FIRST ISSUE of FemThor.

Read some comics or go back to Cred Forums

Mjolnir being this important is stupid, its just a very powerful hammer, it isn't even close to the most important or powerful Asgardian Weapon.

methinks the the writers have allowed the hype and cultural myth of the weapon outstrip its actual importance.

this happens alot with writers in fiction, see Darth Vader, who while important in the original trilogy, became the chosen one in the prequels.

why is this? Lucas allowed the IDEA of how cool and powerful Darth Vader is in the public image to overpower Darth Vader's reality, the hype overtook reality.

thats whats happening with Mjolnir, Gungnir and the Odinsword are far more powerful and important, but here we are, the writers of (Female) Thor have made it more important than their Mary Sue Lady Thor, who honestly has outstripped her welcome by never doing anything cool or interesting on her own and we have to be TOLD how cool and interesting she is by the characters in the comic.

Beta Ray Bill proved himself an amazing character (some would say MORE badass than Thor himself) and yet Jane cannot, because the writers are poor and push the angle of her being a women too hard, making it political.

>never doing anything cool or interesting on her own and we have to be TOLD how cool and interesting she is by the characters in the comic.

Another Cred Forumstard who doesn't read comics

Even Odinson is surprised by Jane's mastery of of Mjolnir.

Beating up Odin is what you rummage?

Here's hoping that they aren't heading down the "Hammer is evil and secretly manipulating every one all this time." path. While there's ways it could work and could be planning to use Jane as a host, it would be pretty dumb.

>hits Odinson with it.

also this is just Mjolnir doing this anyways, not her, as has been said, even by her fans in this thread, the Hammer is more powerful and important than the wielder now.

>challenging Odin for fuck what reason and letting Frigga get killed
Great hero.

>well there's a couple ways you can read it
>A) It's retarded
>B) It's completely retarded
>C) It's so retarded that eating lead paint chips would only improve its' situation
>D) It's Slott-tier retarded

So it's fucked every-which way is what you're getting at?

Odinson got in the way of it. Are you incapable of reading comics so much that you didn't read the panel? Her connection with Mjolnir allows her to command the hammer like that. Even Thor in all his years couldn't make it do that.
She fought Odin to save Frigga and took the world shattering fight somewhere else. Loki like always backstabbed Frigga. If we're going to do that lets talk about how Thor couldn't defend Asgard from Norman Osborn.

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I blame Force Awakens for popularizing this term(ironically the word doesn't even apply to Rey either).

Mary Sue has been popular for decades.

and it totally applies to Jane Thor, unlike most times when its used.

she's just too special snowflake and is too politically pushed by the writers.

Hitting Odin with a big rock is not a cool moment nor is it even a valid strategy. That's like trying to bomb Galactus. Yeah, you can do it, and yes, he may pause afterward...but it isn't because he's injured it's because you just tried to injure a being who operates on a cosmic scale in a very, very stupid way.

That will never not be dumb. Learning a device has hidden capabilities is fine, provided it makes a lick of sense. In all the times Thor has been required to save (insert something bloody important like Asgard itself here), you would think Odin, the literal enchanter of the damn thing would go "Oh by the way Son I tossed in some cheat codes that make the thing into a whirling dervish of pummeling."

You don't keep shit like that secret when shit hits the fan. If it was some chucklehead who just found an object of power and learned of it's powers, yeah, new ones are fine. In this case though the dude who did the enchanting is literally in the other room to talk to about it. Likewise, he should be able to tell what's going on with an enchantment he placed, even if it's changed. A programmer doesn't just suddenly not understand code if something goes wrong. It just becomes a hassle to find out precisely where something went fubar

Mary Sue was a legit term that became a meme term easily thrown around when TFA because butthurt neckbeards couldn't grasp the concept of Rey's character.

Everything Jane does, every ability she has, is telegraphed in advanced. There are many Mary Sues in the Marvel universe but Jane isn't one of them.

Also
>"MUH SJW BOOGEYMAN!"

This is probably the worst thing about the Thor run. Even if you wanted to give Aaron the benefit of the doubt-- Jane isn't a real character. She just hits stuff and she's either strong enough that it works or... well we go for a few more pages/issues until the threat becomes irrelevant.

She doesn't actually deal with any complexity or apply any reasoning to a situation. Jane is worthy-- show us what that means. How does being worthy require you to think/act differently?

She's the least interesting part of her book. Now the whole "mjolnir is sentient" (but mjolnir used up all its mary sue power so lets not think about how little sense that makes) thing is just stunningly nonsensical.

But if Mjolnir is sentient, then mjolnir is a terrible person-- percipitating a civil war in asgard and putting everyone at risk for the lulz?

Actually there was one panel in Paul Jenkin's Thor Heaven and Earth where Thor uses mjolnir to do a speed blitz like that so it isn't strictly speaking true that Mjolnir never did that before.

But if Mjolnir never did a homing speed blitz for Thor, that's more just cause Thor never really tried. Throwing the hammer at stuff works fine. He was agile enough with the hammer to out maneuver Silver Surfer at extremely high-speeds in Fraction's arc.

>She fought Odin to save Frigga
And she failed horribly. Great fucking job.
The best part was the last panels where she was shown all in glory like she accomplished something.

Right, I'll weigh in here.

Yes it is a rule.

Mjolnir uses the Odinforce. One of the fonts of Godpower in the Marvel universe. Guess who has supreme control of the Odinforce right now? That's right; Odin.

Odin does have the ability to simply override the enchantment, hell, the Mjolnir we have today isn't even the first Mjolnir, it's been destroyed dozens of times and Odin always creates a new one.

If you're implying some outside force is manipulating the hammer, then Odin would know it because, you know, Odin is FUCKING ODIN.

Unless it's Odin himself being manipulated and in that case, we already had an arch like that, just like everything else in FemThor, it's just recycled shit we had with Thor but worse.

Did you evena read the Odin fight issue. That rock thing is a small moment from their fight.

You're misunderstanding Mjolnir. Her mastery of the hammer isn't some ability that is simply unlocked. It is something that comes from her skill and connection with the tool. It's like Bucky practicing with Steve's shield and realizing he can do a new trick Steve has never thought of.

And no Odin can't tell what's going on with the enchantment because that is the crux of the plot. Whatever is going on is tied up in whatever Fury told Odinson. A programmer can't understand his program is some unknown variable came in and messed up it beyond repair.

Your headcanon is not actual canon. Try again.
Yes heroes fail sometimes. Had she succeeded in her quest then you'd be screaming "MARY SUE!"

Hey remember when Thor couldn't save Loki from the Void?

the writers are admitted SJW's.

regardless she is a SHIT Legacy character and everyone knows it.

Kamala and new Ghost Rider are far superior LEgacy characters because they don't spend all their time "outshining" their Legacy fore-character by the writer telling us how this is true.

seriously Jane Thor's writers spent too much time and effort rubbing everyone the wrong way for political "gotcha's" instead of making her a grounded, interesting character like Kamala.

Odin is evil and secretly manipulating the Hammer all this time.

So you're saying Thor couldn't spin the hammer around alot because he's just not good enough to spin the hammer around alot, despite wielding it for thousands of years compared to jane, who has no combat experience ever.

Hey tumblrfag, calling it headcanon doesn't make it headcanon, that's how skyfather's work you mongoloid, taking Wikipedia entries of Thor's history and pretending you're the master of ceramonies is retarded.

Bottom line is FemThor is not a new direction at all, she just recycles Thor ideas in a way and makes them more shounen Manga-like.

I mean the FemThor Odin fight is proof enough they don't even respect the source material.

Whats next? FemThor firing Godblasts?

>"MUH SJW BOOGEYMAN!"

You don't read comics. Back to Cred Forums. This SJW meme is stupid.

It's quite obvious it's "The Serpent is manipulating Odin and though him the hammer because the Serpent thinks women are sexist but FemThor proves him wrong by being amazing"

the writers CALL themselves Social Justice Warriors.

How about you fuck off back to Tumblr?

Nobody here likes FemThor because she's boring, Thor is at his worse when he's a secondary character to Midgard Bullshit.

And that's literally what FemThor does.

this we could give a fuck if Thor becomes a lady, everyone here likes Kamala.

Jane Thor is how you fail to make a new legacy character, Kamala is how you succeed (as Kamala is even more interesting a character than even Carol)

I'm just saying that moment from the fight was dumb, and the fight was much the same. It's like punctuating a statement by harmlessly slapping a bigger dudes chest to show your dominance. Ineffectual and kind of sad.

Your second point makes no sense. A tool doesn't magically work in new ways or gain new capabilities like that. A wrench doesn't suddenly gain the ability to solder because the dude using it is like, the wrench master of legend. Again, the dude who made the thing is readily available to help parse out what is, and is not, possible to do with the tool he created so it shouldn't have new and amazing capabilities.

Finally, yes he can, and yes a programmer can. It just takes time and effort. If I brick my computer, I assure you I can figure out what I did after a few days worth of work. I know, because I've had to do it before when bloody laptop decided to shit the bed. The same concept applies here albeit in terms of magic and shit.

Yes, they work better as characters because they actually have one. Jane is consistently just kind of there, whereas Robbie (I can't speak for Kamala as I don't really read her book) has a character. Hopes, dreams, failings. He feels human and isn't there just to be better at everything forever. Hell, even his completely different way of being a Ghost Rider makes his story more interesting because it's actually sort of a shit draw.

To be fair, that's a low bar. Carol has never been much of an interesting character in her own right.

Who's talking about spinning? Are you even reading the book? Jane has the ability to make Mjolnir ricochet off many enemies. And no Odinson couldn't do it because he said so himself. Hence why he was surprised to see Jane do it.

No it's your headcanon speaking. You're extrapolating pieces of canon to make it fit with your narrative. Clearly you're wrong or we wouldn't be having this discussion in the fist place.

>receives arguments
>"HEADCANON"
Fantastic line of reasoning.

well yes, mary sue's do get to be better than everyone, thats their thing.

Jane is, and will always be, a Mary Sue, until a new writer comes along and actually does something good with her.

which will never happen, they've heavily politicized Jane Thor and that will stick to her forever.

I haven't been keeping up with things; is the Odin-force the Freyja-force yet?

>It's headcanon because you use parts of the Canon to fit YOUR ideas instead of mine

Just go back to Tumblr you annoying rat.

Everyone in this thread suddenly has headcanon because we understand the comics and know how the FemThor idea is people writing bullshit after bullshit just so FemThor can be a boring background character who does nothing with the legacy she was given.

Thor HAS rebounded the hammer off of multiple people before, just because he doesn't do some weird anime orbiting shit.

It's ironic really, you call us all to go to Cred Forums but FemThor is basically genderswapped Movie Thor, she sits around the Avengers doing jack shit and exists as a heavy hitter.

Wait, I could have sworn I've seen Thor pull this trick before. Maybe not comic but one of the live or animated movies?

Nobody cares because Nothing HAS been happening with FemThor.

She does nothing important at all.

I dont give a fuck what they call themselves. I care about the quality of the actual comic. Still the SJW boogeyman meme is stupid shit made by Cred Forumstards who dont read comics.
>"Waaa you dont agree with me! You must be from tumblr!"

Dude you can literally make that argument about a lot of fights in comics. You're complaining about a comic making a cool looking panel. Why does Spider Man do an unnecessary flip in that panel? I dont know it looks cool!

Again you're misunderstanding Mjolnir and comparing it to real world mundane objects. Answer me this: Can someone find new uses for a magical tool that was unknown to the previous holder?

No again magic does not follow the same rules as real world mundane technology. You can make comparisons but they are not the same. Odin doesn't even have Mjolnir. Good luck figuring out the problem when you dont even have the item you're looking diagnosing.

Nigger I've been reading comics for years so I can tell when Cred Forumstards like you are invading Cred Forums. The fact you just compared Jane to MCU Thor just says it all.

>"Waaa you don't agree with me! You must be from Cred Forums"

You're the one who described Mjolnir as a fucking Programmable device.

And no, no matter what you argue, you can't avoid the fact that Jane IS a Mary Sue.

>Gets to the Moon literally by chance so she can grab the hammer.
>Is a better Thor than Thor is automatically right from the start, uses abilities and Skills Thor never used because she's....Just a better Thor, despite Thor being Thor for much longer, but it's ok even Thor says she's better and amazing
>All the ideas behind the Thor Mythos instantly melt away to make room for FemThor, Odin being controller of the Odinforce and thus the hammer? no, gone. Even when Secret World 2 happens and all the Thor hammers are powered by Doom, FemThor's hammer doens't depower for some reason.
>She can bring Odin to bleed, despite Thor never having the strength to do that himself because, you know, the fucking Odinforce
>Everyone accepts her instantly and likes her, despite you know, many people being good PERSONAL friends with Thor.

FemThor is a boring feminist cardboard cutout who reeks of lazy writing and steps on every toe it can just to shoehorn a crappy woman into a spot. The fact that she steals his First name is proof she's a bad character.

A Fan of Thor wouldn't be calling FemThor Jane.

I compared her to MCU Thor because she's more like Him than any comic book adaption.

Fuck off back to tumblr.

I think you are right. The idea that mjolnir just "outgrew its enchantment" as freja suggested is kinda wild. Gungir didn't outgrow its enchantment. The destroyer didn't outgrow its enchantment. Heck, its unclear that outgrowing its enchantment has any real meaning at all. Have we ever seen that happen to a person who does magic at a level as high as Odin?

Odin is no mere "Magician" He's Odin.

You are absolutely right about mjolnir being broken several times.

If an outside force were to manipulate the hammer, it would've done so already. Thors fought pretty much every magic being.

He did it in Thor heaven and earth. It is actually an extremely rare feat. But I don't know anyone who doesn't think it is inconceivable that Thor could do it.

yea the big one is that all the heros, ALL Of them, instantly fall in love with Jane Thor and never question what happened to Odinson or give one fuck about him.

its just awestruck smiles with "THOR IS HERE!"

It's being purposefully written that way too.

We don't have Herc, Beta Ray Bill or Hyperion show up and go "Where the fuck is Thor?"

And honestly, that's the part that annoys me the most, they pretty much destroyed the REAL Thor as a character just to make him a Persona for Jane to wear like a weird skin mask.

Even Eric Masterson, the guy people always try to use as an image of what Jane is supposed to be, Was "Pretending" to be Thor as much as possible and was questioned about it alot.

Like seriously, Sif straight up refuses to call him Thor and thinks he's bullshit, but we have nothing like that with FemThor.

You're...somewhat missing the point. The other user said that Jane hadn't done anything and someone used that image as a rebuttal. it is a poor rebuttal. Also, no, a new wielder cannot find new uses for a magical object when the previous wielder was able to get advice from the dude who literally made it. Thor had the user manual at his disposal. If Odin kept a small book entitled "Fuck my son and 10 other uses for the hammer he'll never know." well then that's a thing, but I doubt it's the case.

Magic does however have internal consistency. If Strange is required to do "x" action to to receive "y" result, such as calling on the Crimson Bands of Cyttorak to make them appear, then no, doing jazz hands while blaring Freebird will not produce the same result. Magic doesn't have to have a direct parallel, but it requires its own consistency. If killing a chicken in a specific way always lets you contact a specific demon, then I expect it to always work barring some outside change.

There's also no reason he couldn't have the item to diagnose it. He's Odin. There is nearly no power readily available to stop him from snagging the Hammer and seeing what the hell went wrong with it. You know, aside from writer fiat.

Agreed. This bothers me a lot. You'd think Tony or Steve would be especially concerned since they are two of his best friends. You'd think they'd be like "remember that one time Hela got the twilight sword and destroyed most of reality? Remember that time when?" And she'd be dumbfounded. Then they'd ask questions.

Heck, what bothers me is that neither Jane nor Mjolnir seem to be concerned about Thor. You'd think you'd say something like... "hmm Thors adoptive mother is almost dead... maybe I should find Thor so he can pay his last respects." But noooooo...

Also, why would Cul be on the throne? There are two other all-mothers (dumbest idea in Thor history probably but w/e). TWO all-mothers. One of which is Gaea an elder-goddess and also Thor's actual birth mother. Why wouldn't they be on the throne?

Heres a homing style blitz. He was surrounded and mjolnir homed in and took them out.

I found one more from an early thor but i gotta compress photo.

Yeah, the Three All-Mothers is stupid because

A) One of them is fucking Gaea, a being who IS on par with a Skyfather
B) Two of them are sort of the same character anyway

And Cul to me has never been as strong as Odin, I mean it took him centuries to even gather the strength to do Fear Itself, Now he just hangs around.

FemThor has basically ruined the Thor mythos.

Agreed. Worst thing about Fem Thor is it really could've worked. Kinda like when people "replace" Batman and they have to put their own spin/take on it and realize how hard it is to live up to the mask. But Aaron didn't go in that direction. He went in the worst possible direction.

Only thing I'll say is-- I do like she is getting feats which basically are also attributable to Thor. So that's good.

Also, here is an older homing attack. What Aaron said Mjolnir hadn't done for Thor has been show to be false 2x.

That last panel
>fap

The ''Jane is so masterful with the hammer, more so than Odinson!'' bullshit was just for marketing purposes to get new readers, mainly women looking for strong independent female characters. It has no ''deep'' purpose.