Why isn't Nintendo investing in cartoons (uh, animes?) for their main franchises anymore?

user Nintendo let Other M and Hyrule Warriors happen. The fuck are you talking about?

Archie is pretty bad though. The megaman comics were overrated crap full of fanservice but with no substance

I think It was something animal crossing related...

Nintendo is a japanese company that can only be understood through japanese eyes.
Americans just don't get the brands at all, that's why the 80s cartoons are bad, that's why Nintendo was surprisingly edgy here, that's why people still make fanart of LoZ as it was Lord of the Rings (especially pre-TP) and Joe Madureira makes this kind of shit. American Nintendo fans have no self awareness and keep making pasta jokes, including Mario's voice actor.

Nintendo likes having absolute control over everything involving their characters, even if they have no idea how to produce it. Since Nintendo doesn't have anime company, they're too stubborn to lend it out to any studio.

Hasn't Nintendo said they're planning to start licencing their IPs out again because kids are starting to have no idea who their characters are?

>Nintendo likes having absolute control over everything involving their characters, even if they have no idea how to produce it.
Good
We don't need more dobbos

Didn't Nintendo express somewhat recently that they were interested in attempting movies again?

They're making a live action Detective Pikachu movie.

I think Kid Icarus had some animated shorts? Nothing substantial.

To be fair, every time they've given out their IP, the company in question fucked up royal. The Phillips games, Other M, . I mean, can you even name anything good that was made from a Nintendo that wasn't made by them? Ok, apart from Captain N.

i remember hearing about a zelda and mario movie but i have no idea what happened there

I think they just want the money. But yeah, they are.

Other M was all Nintendo's. Team Ninja only programed it.
And Captain N is just as bad as everything else.

To be fair most video game adaptations suck.

>I mean, can you even name anything good that was made from a Nintendo that wasn't made by them?

Do the two Retro Donkey Kong games count?

I heard that Nintendo might give Ghibli the rights to make a movie based on Zelda but I don't know how much of that is true.

None

No, stupid.
Retro has been owned for Nintendo by years, even before both of those games were made.

Ghibli doesn't seem like they're going to be producing any more movies, and even if they were it doesn't sound like their style to do something like that.

Mama luigi

>I heard that

Would you want to do business with the company that allowed Penders to get the rights to palette swaps of Knuckles?

Hyrule Warriors was a really fun Dynasty Warriors. Better that the DQ one, sadly.

Nintendo needs fresh IPs in general. Is Splatoon their only successful new property since Pokemon came out?

That being said, I think a Splatoon cartoon could be popular. They don't have to worry someone ruining main characters. They can just make OC squid kids.

This user understands.

Japan businesses only value other Japanese businesses and people. The fact that non-Japanese purchase Japanese products are minor to them as non-Japanese will always be filthy gaijin, blacks, or etc.

Which is hilarious as a lot of money comes from non-Japanese markets for Nintendo. Miyamoto knows how to speak English but is racist to non-Japanese people. Reggie is one of the only non-Japanese people that Miyamoto likes from internal rumors.

Pikmin was succesful enough
they just stopped making games for years

Active IPs:
>Mario Bros
>Smash Bros
>Mario Kart
>Zelda
>Pikmin
>Pokemon
>Kirby
>Animal Crossing
>Donkey Kong
>Fire Emblem
>Star Fox
>Yoshi

Inactive IPs:
>Metroid (main series, not spinoffs)
>Kid Icarus
>Punch-Out
>Wario

Dead IPs:
>F-Zero
>Pilotwings
>Mother

Forgot Splatoon under Active IPs

>Star Fox

Not anymore.

So, in 20 years one of the biggest game developers has only created 3 successful new IPs, 2 if you don't count Pokemon because of Gamefreak. And Pikmin looks like it could be dead. How does this happen? Does Miyamoto need to die too, so some change can happen over there?

> non-Japanese will always be filthy gaijin, blacks, or etc.
Or maybe you are merely projecting your own xenophobia onto others.

Hyrule Warriors.
The Capcom made Zelda games for handhelds.
Punch Out Wii.
Luigi's Mansion: Dark Moon.

Those are just off the top of my head.

You forgot Shin Megami Tensei.

>mfw the last SMT game that was released outsold the latest Dragon Quest

They tried it once and it was a disaster.

Thats Sega.

They are though.

This post right here is pure neogaf.

>An SJW who hasn't met anyone from Japan or been to the country thinks that they can school a person who has.

Fuck off.

The WiiU had a remake of the 64 on it. I placed it under active IPs.

I'm probably forgetting a lot of different IPs. I just went with the ones I directly remembered. As an F-Zero and Mother fan, it irks me that Nintendo has killed those two series. Yes, I know why Mother is dead, but where's my F-Zero for the WiiU or Wii? And the lame mini-game that came out a few years ago doesn't fucking count!

>2nd party games

Still Nintendo-owned IPs.

>An SJW who hasn't met anyone from Japan or been to the country thinks that they can school a person who has.
I'm not an SJW (what the fuck are you smoking?) and just because you've been to Japan doesn't mean you have perfect objective omniscient knowledge of the country. You can be just as full of shit, or more full of shit, than someone who's barely even read about the place. And in this case you certainly are.

>Fuck off.
No, you fuck off.

Okay, but don't expect another Starfox for a good long time.

>Geist
I was so fucking hyped about their game and disappointed when I finally played it.

The ending was beyond shit.

>Eternal Darkness
Still the best horror game I've ever played.

>Disaster: Day of Crisis
Wasn't this only released outside of the US due to the content? I've played a rip of the game and it was fun.

>Endess Ocean
Still say that the subnautica team ripped off their idea from this.

>Wonderful101
Still haven't beat this game, so fucking hard.

u rite

I've been to Japan, the hatred of non-Japanese is strong. If you go outside the "tourist" areas, the people are asshats.

Fuck off, times 10.

True, the WiiU game was fun but the controls were meh at best. I had no issues with playing the game, but my friends complained about the force WiiU pad use.

>implying Animal Crossing, Pikmin, Xenoblade, Nintendogs, Golden Sun, Rhythm Heaven, the Wii series and Splatoon aren't legitimately successful IPs
>implying Nintendo doesn't own all these IPs

Yeah, I pine for the day Eternal Darkness, Codename Steam and W101 get sequels.

It's a fucking meme, mostly used by people to project their own problems or their country's problems onto Japan. It's done all the time. Japan is always the great satan doing everything wrong unlike the glorious imperfect West.

>Fuck off, times 10.
No, you fuck off.

I could see W101 receiving an NX sequel. It sold well over in Japan.

Codename Steam was poorly received and won't.

Eternal Darkness will never get a sequel as Silicon Knights is a dead dev.

Motherfucker, I lived in Japan for seven years. Get your ass out of Cred Forums and listen to someone who seen the country firsthand. Nearly all of the 40+ people hate foreigners. Those who don't will still dislike you as you're not PROUD JAPANESE.

Japan is a good country but has issues like the US, Europe, or wherever.

GOOD DAMN you are such a faggot.

Does Nintendo really own rights to those games? Or just rights to publish the games?

They own them all. W101 might be half Platinum, though...

W101 was made by Platinum Games. I'm assuming the companies have equal ownership.

Codename Steam is owned by Nintendo.

Eternal Darkness is in limbo. Whoever owns the Silicon Knights rights owns the game. Same thing happened with THQ when it was sold off years ago.

>Motherfucker, I lived in Japan for seven years.
Memes are memes even if they come from someone who lived in Japan for seven years.

>Get your ass out of Cred Forums
We are not on Cred Forums and I never said anything about Cred Forums.

There's a Western guy in Japan who serves in the Diet--where's your meme god now? There's also other foreigners who have lived in Japan and not experienced any particular racism.

>GOOD DAMN you are such a faggot.
No, you are. Fuck off.

NintendoLand was great faggot

Nah, Silicon Knights can't make a new ED without Nintendo. Thats why their asswipe president had to come up with a "spiritual successor" for his failed Kickstarter.

animation is an inferior medium to games

Neither is better than the other.

>Inactive IPs:
>>Metroid

nah, especially with toony chacters, Mario Paper series contain more lore and enjoyment than 90% of cartoons

Let's be real, would you let your IPs be used if you was Nintendo? Make no mistake, some VG adaptations were BAD.

>Street Fighter-Movie was remembered for all the wrong reasons as was the cartoon(Bison being the saving grace in both), Legend of Chun-Li was just fucking terrible.
>Mortal Kombat was okay........then came the squeal. And Defenders of Realm which sucked on ice.
>King of Fighters............AHHAHAHAHA! You thought Street Fighter got butchered, KOF somehow got it worse.(Seriously how you fuck up Terry Bogard?!)

And that's a few examples.

gaijin Jews fucked them over hard, Nips learned their lessen... well maybe except for Sony...

ikr?

Animation and video games are two very different mediums. Minecraft isn't a replacement for a movie or TV show or vice versa. Why does this even need to be explained?

because they are different media, you can't find one superior to the other?
fuck off

That's like saying forks are better than spoons. They serve different purposes. Is there something wrong with your brain?

aren't they gonna make Mario cgi movies with Disney or some shit?

Back when Sony's e-mails were leaked it was revealed they were in talks with Nintendo for a CG Mario.

No word since then.

>he Super Mario Bros. movie

Clearly you've missed the memo, friend. We DO NOT talk about this.

All. Nintendo 100% owns Wonderful 101.

Shut the fuck up, Boco. You don't know shit about comics or vidya.

spoons are obviously better, are you slow or something?

So, yes, you do have something wrong with your brain.

Get a load of these morons. Knife master race.

fuck you fork-fag, disgusting

You are a fucking retard.

lol, keeping replying retard

Remember to report all Bocos.

You are replying too, and you are the one who started this.

Sauce?

actually the original faggot is gone, it's just you and me dumb dumbs

Even if he is, you are acting as his substitute. So it doesn't matter.

>no substance

What were you expecting? Mega Man Classic isn't exactly a complex series.

I'd only watch it for peach NTR porn anyway

Peach NTRing Mario, you mean?

Everyone knows she only gets "kidnapped" so she and Bowser can spend a few hours/days fuckin' like rabbits before Mario shows up.

Ah, didn't know that. Thanks for the info Boco.

Peach and Mario's love is so pure, their alternate reality daughter is the ultimate waifu.

Wow, what an original theory, Boco. You sure aren't a stupid attention whore. You should make a youtube channel!

>ultimate waifu
No such thing exists.

Nintendo mentioned that they want to have more involvement with business ventures going forward, presumably to avoid another SMB movie situation. That said, stuff like the Pikmin and Yoshi shorts as well as the re-releases of the Link to the Past and Super Mario Adventures comics suggests that they may be toying with the idea.

>There won't be a Mario/Sonic/Mega Man crossover with
>Protoman won't have a bro to bro talk with Luigi and Tails
>Eggman and Wily won't have Bowser as an awkward third wheel, nor turn the seven Koopalings into Roboticized Masters.

40-60'ish year old men and the Pokemon anime is produced by Sho-Pro under licence just like those Dic shows.

The only anime to be produced by Nintendo are Kirby Right Back At Ya, F-Zero GP Legend and The Animal Crossing Movie, they stopped because Iwata hated the AC movie so much they they stood out of anime production for years until the Pikmin shorts.

>But Kid Icarus.
Those were licensed to shorts produced by IG, 4C and Shaft, Nintendo had nothing to do with them.
They still made games after that.

She's certainly close to being one.

No, she isn't. A waifu is a completely personal thing, not a competition.

Mario Strikers.

>animation is an inferior medium to games
but user, games have animation in them. That's like saying Atoms are better particles than electrons.

no some waifu are better than others

No. Again, it is not a fucking competition. If you can't or won't understand what a waifu is then don't talk about them.

youtube.com/watch?v=wA2-0nTxaGg&ab_channel=Nintendo

People can have what they feel is a perfect waifu. Even if said character is shit.

>Produced by Wit/IG/Orange Japan

Why did Iwata hate the AC movie? I can't find anything online that says this.

I have no Idea, but if that were not the case we would of got a Blu-Ray release and a English dub of the movie.

And the fact that it took years after the AC movie to have Nintendo to produced another anime again with the Pikmin shorts.

>People competing over ultimate waifu in Mario
>When it's already been decided

How can it be a competition when Rosalina doesn't even have a nice boipussi

fuck this thing is gross

Woah careful with that shit taste there buddy you might poke your eye out.

Cartoons and anime are made to help sell the games, that's why there were more cartoons and anime based in games in the 80s and 90s, because it wasn't mainstream back then and they needed help to get their games bought. Nowadays they don't have this problem because everyone play games and Nintendo games sells awesomely well, so they don't have the need of a cartoon or anime to promote sells.

It's okay user, AM2R was excellent and we can always just keep replaying that

waifufaggotry seems to have a knack for taking the worst characters and putting them on a pedestal

>actually paying attention to Rosalina's cliché backstory in Mario Galaxy

It's sad

>super BFG goes unnoticed
this board

>Penders could've been writing Mario comics.
Jesus we sure dodged a bullet

Console and arcade games were perfectly mainstream in Japan in the 80s. Computers games not so much (which is still true today). Visual novels/dating sims have probably received more adaptations than regular games, but both continue to be adapted to this day. Tales of Zestiria's adaptation is on-going, and before that there were God Eater and Gunslinger Stratos among others. Mobile games are also adapted often now (Granblue Fantasy is coming soon for example).

It's part of the media mix strategy. You turn your game into an anime and your anime into a game, or make both at once. A really media mixed series can have a manga, anime, game, audio drama, live action show/movie and a stage play.

Everyone reads manga too but there's still shit-tons of anime adaptations of it.

A million recolored Yoshis, and the main star Yoshi had his egg radiated by Star Energy.

PC games got better thanks to Steam as half of Japan owns a PC.

Everything I've ever heard about PC gaming in Japan is that it's niche. Putting aside PC ports, which probably are made mostly for Western markets, their PC games are mostly visual novels and doujin.

Japanese homes are too small for desktop computers. And half the country spends most of the time on trains anyway.

It used to be niche but then Steam was localized and it became a hit, Japan's 30% PC ownership became 50% (but not higher due to the cost of getting a gaming PC).

shut up dumbfuck
Nips with PCs can already play western games

Read and gaming laptops do exist and are a hit.
And emulators.

>Japanese homes are too small for desktop computers.
I keep hearing this all the time and it's just nonsense. They don't live in closets and computers don't take up that much space. Laptops are also an obvious alternative.

I've never heard anything about PC gaming becoming a hit there.

Obviously. I was talking about domestically produced games.

People can't handle the IPs, they don't get them. make a cartoon about Zelda and retards here will try to make a Lord of the rings/Game of thrones lite.

We've already got Scourge and everything

There's no reason to have it made in America in any case.

Do you expect Miyamoto to draw it himself?

You have never been on NeoGaf.
Also animenewsnetwork.com/answerman/2016-05-23/.102406

That short is in CG, if it was hand drawn it would of been done by Orange Korea (Rough Draft).

What about Neofag?

>Also
What he says supports the idea that PC gaming is niche in Japan.

Most of the people there only play on PC, even the ones who live in Japan (almost everyone in Japan who post there is a native of the country).

Also 50% is not niche, thats half the country.

In that case it lose the universal appeal.

Arcades, consoles and mobile games are popular in Japan. Mobile games have been really rising in popularity. PC games are mostly VNs, eroge, doujin and ports of console games.

50% computer ownership is laughable for a developed nation in 2016.

Then how come Nintendo's games have universal appeal?

>Then how come Nintendo's games have universal appeal?
Because they are not anime, turn them into anime and everything is lost.

Over 127 million million people live in Japan, 63.5 million people is not laughable by any means.

Also Japan LOVES Overwatch.

Miyamoto being racist towards non-japanese? Nigga please, his two most iconic mascots are an italian man and a blonde/brunette/pink haired elf, he hasen't said or did anything about race in his whole career.

Fuck off, I heard a rumor that says Miyamoto is the root of everything wrong with Nintendo, it's actually a cunt to everyone and stole all his works.

And why exactly would everything be lost?

Again: arcades, consoles and mobile games are popular in Japan. PC games are mostly VNs, eroge, doujin and ports and have historically been far less popular than in the West. Only half of the populace owns a computer, and who knows how many of those are gaming-grade. Why are you trying to push this idea that PC gaming is huge over there?

Thats fake.

Are you honestly defending anime?

Why wouldn't I? What are you talking about?

>Beliving any shit you hear
Get serious kid, even if he was an asshole he wouldn't be racist, he has most contact with his japanese crew the filthy gaijins are Reggie's business

>Why Nintendo doesn't invest money in things that will crash and burn?

Then again they made the WiiU

This is Cred Forums you fucking idiot, are honestly criticizing anime and thinking you'll be backed up?

You don't need a R9 480 to run games, but it helps.

People are very critical of anime on Cred Forums and those who defend it don't have much support. It doesn't make sense but it is what it is.

>Is Splatoon their only successful new property since Pokemon came out?

Like them or not, the Wii series (Sports, Fit, etc) were successful for what they were on the Wii.

Third parties were against investing in it, it wasn't nintendos fault they sucked the sony/microsofts shaft.

>Third parties were against investing in it
More like they aren't putting up with Nintendo's policies and designing games with a weird gimmick
>it wasn't nintendos fault they sucked the sony/microsofts shaft.
>pic related

I'm a diehard Nintendo Fan, but they really did messed up in some things
Like not having the WiiU come with a non motion control controller
But the lack of third party support really killed it

Smash had an animated short with Pit, Palutena, and Link.

youtube.com/watch?v=xqTW13AYniY

>No Wonderful 101

I cry everytime.

I suppose they didn't really get all that good of a return with the F-Zero and Kirby anime.

Read

Yoshiro akiyama is a 3rd generation Korean immigrant and japan wouldn't let him represent them in the Olympics because his grandfather was born in korea.

don't let facts get in the way of grorious Nippon though

What is your point?

I did not know there was an Animal Crossing movie. You learn something new every day!

Do you have any idea how hard is is to make something popular period? And Pikmin isn't dead, you moron, the 3rd game was released a few years ago and there's 2 more games on the way.

Imagine you had an egg that gave you 2 million dollars every year. Now, every time you can throw it above thirty feet you get $500,000, but if it breaks, you loose .5 million from your 2 mil. a year.

That's kind of what it's like to own an IP.

They're considering it actually IIRC

>Kirby anime.
youtube.com/watch?v=OaYKyGqRROY
Good shit

>Chibi-robo
Fun game. Not really serious, but man, did it have some feels at points

>Golden Sun
Good FF alternative, 7/10 would play

>People are still pissy over motion controls
I bet you tried using the Motion Control Plus for Skyward Sword

The deals with Nintendo were done after Penders was out. They showed Nintendo pitches for Mario, kirby and Metroid but they said no and it was then when Capcom approached them for the Mega Man comic.

>We could have gotten Worlds Smash

FUCK

>rehashing the same ol' shit
i wish they would do that for paper mario. they destroyed my favorite RPG before it even had a chance.

ITT: Cred Forums tries to discuss video games
You fucks are absolutely retarded.

Paper Mario is the weird case of both de-standardize AND standardize at the same time.

You over experiment with gimmicks and battle systems that plain don't work right, yet limit yourself to the standard NSMB style and characters and designs.

It makes absolutely no sense.

stop

why do you bring actual facts into thread dedicated to Cred Forums meme knowledge

they are though
they even paid sheckles to have mario in the 2020 olympics

It's also possible that you just have a persecution complex.

F

One of the biggest problems with those is that they're all fighting games with 16+ characters and thus no time to tell a story with any of them.

more Cred Forums memes

>implying they invested money in the wii-u

Nobody buys nintendo consoles for third party games

Oh shot what's this from

IF I'M ABLE TO, I'M GOING TO MAKE AN OFFICIAL METROID COMIC ONE DAY

J-JUST YOU WAIT AND SEE