Would cartoons as a whole be better if children's cartoons were made with more of an early Simpsons rating limit to...

Would cartoons as a whole be better if children's cartoons were made with more of an early Simpsons rating limit to them?
>Some swears but not many
>Some sexual references but lightly and infrequent
>Violence allowed but typically not in great amounts

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Man no, the season 1 of simpsons was fucking dark, you need to put more attention on dialogues and situation.

No no no, that's the problem. Children's cartoons are already like that. Children's cartoons should be pure and wholesome.

Didn't Regular Show do exactly that though in its earlier seasons?

Cartoons would be better if manchildren grew up and stopped watching it.

Yeah, and it was a lot better than recent ones
Haven't finished season 7 though and I heard it was a return to form

Hahaha nice joke friend. Unless you were serious, in which case, shut up.

What business do swearing and sexual references have in children's cartoons? It just makes it uncomfortable to watch with them.

I'm talking children's cartoons like Regular Show or Dan Vs or maybe even Gumball, where it's also appealing to older demographics but it never quite hits the mark because it can't get too vulgar

Just because you want to ignore it doesn't mean it doesn't exist. If you ignore it and demonize it you just fabricate traumas in children, but I guess parents just want to shield them from everything instead of actually being parents and teach them morals and talk to them about delicate issues.

No. Cartoons as a whole would be better with better writing.

or this

You don't have to have swearing, sex and violence to appeal to older demographics, especially when it's detrimental to the younger demographics

Sex jokes and swearing don't incite talking about delicate issues, they incite awkward silences. Maybe when something shocking or unacceptable happens it can force the parent to panic and hurry an explanation for what the child just saw, but I don't see how that's helpful in any way.

I definitely think cartoons could be improved with a lot less shyness about the female body, provided it was for non-sexual reasons.

>You don't have to have swearing, sex and violence to appeal to older demographics
Yeah but hearing pseudo-swears is cringey, and it's tiring when every single conflict is solved by The Power of Friendship

Why the female body specifically? I don't really think it would improve cartoons at all unless you enjoy non-sexualized women in shitty cartoon artstyles

One, 'cause you can get boys naked all the time and kids don't know the difference, and two, we REALLY shouldn't be teaching kids about sex until their teen years. Nudity's fine, but not sex.

Pseudo-swears are indeed shitty, they should be avoided too. Not being able to make sexual references doesn't hinder the ability to solve problems.

Well it could help make girls less ashamed/afraid of themselves.

>Well it could help make girls less ashamed/afraid of themselves.
You, I like you. Just make it cute and silly enough and everything will be fine.

(I had a pic here, but I'm worried it'll get the axe because of Powerpuff butts.)

butts are sfw, at worst it will get deleted

So be it. This is my third try.

See, I myself don't really see the problem with lil' girl butts. I mean, kids aren't sexual, and the only reason we're so worried about censoring girl nudity is because society sees the female body as "inherently sexual", so they don't wanna be seen as sexualizing kids when really nothing bad will happen.

So basically like pic related?

It's mostly just backlash from the sexual revolution. A lot of child rape occurred out of the anyone can fuck anyone mindset, and its repercussions are being felt now. People confusing arousal for sexual arousal and this whole Muslim thing aren't helping either

did this really happen?

anyway I like most of you people. Some of you are more prudish than I'd like but at least it's a start
what baffles me is how right now shit for ADULTS can show sex but NOT nudity. carefully-covered-bits sex. what the shit is that about

Well, thanks for the info. I think it's a little silly during a time where kids are asking what the other sex looks like naked to give girls the answer but hide it from boys. It's like they expect them to turn into rapists, I tell ya what.

I'm pretty sure the lion's share of child molesting happened AFTER the pedo witch hunt started up, as a result of it becoming more taboo.
Really though, it (like the presidential nomination and most of our economic crises) is another result of the scaremongering news media. The people involved have straight up admitted now they fabricated all the big scary events of childmolesting coming out of the end of the 80s. Sometimes they'd just badger the kids to say something happened at their daycare until they straight up made things up. Then they just published the more plausible parts (for example, NOT the parts where kids get flushed down the toilet)

>did this really happen?
Nah, those're edits. Though I kinda had to buy the Yumi one for the edit to this pic. There's a reason I picket for female nudity in cartoons!

They had an entire episode about women's sex toys

i'm just happy with nudity in general
and that means emotional nudity as well, and verbal nudity. our polite society is so full of lies masquerading as 'privacy' and 'modesty'

>carefully-covered-bits sex
That's the whole shame thing again. Sex in the media is about punishing your body and indulging in "guilty pleasures"

The 80's were very late into the revolution and by that point most people had already caught onto what was happening. Taboo might increase the number of molestations, but nowhere near as much as it being almost acceptable to do

>It's like they expect them to turn into rapists
they 100% do.

What are some current animated shows you think could get away with showing nudity in a comedic manner?

and as youths and minorities showed us, if you treat people like you expect the worst of them, that's exactly what you'll get

What do you mean get away with? like, without being stopped? because then, none.
or do you mean who could get away with it without violating their artistic integrity and the overall tone? because.. probably any

>Cartoons would be better if manchildren grew up and stopped watching it.


But them you wouldn't have animators amd writters.

Because, surprise:

Animators and writters love cartoons and are always trying to push barriers.

And I say it as an animator.

I think that's OP's point. It was dark but without being gruesome or offensive.

>Responding to trolling

>See, I myself don't really see the problem with lil' girl butts. I mean, kids aren't sexual, and the only reason we're so worried about censoring girl nudity is because society sees the female body as "inherently sexual", so they don't wanna be seen as sexualizing kids when really nothing bad will happen.

If this aired like that today, this would be spamed and pedos on this site would go crazy, like they do with Wonderloli or Gwen.

Turns out that most animators aren't pedos, and don't like the idea of making them happy, or even being associated.

yeah well guess what? you pull back the spring, you need to let it snap, and put up with the noise
but it will pass. the excitement will die down.
keeping the spring under constant tension is not healthy or sustainable

The Simpsons could get away with literally anything

Pulling it off in a non sexual manne4

Wait, not him but...

You now want to make people few less sexually attracted to things?

Fuck off.

The world doesn't even work like that, your cartoons won't change the view of most people on the world for your fetish nudity fantasy.

oh
well then any of them
unless you mean in the eyes of their viewers.. then, none of them

Double dubs AND Trips confirm.

The faggot just want his fetish to be accepted and is acting faggy regarding this.

did you even read my post? not that I can make sense of yours.

i'm saying you don't react with mindless irrational emotional negativity to a few people reacting to innocent nudity with hungry eyes and drooling mouths
you accept it as the side-effect of the ridiculous censorship we've had thus far, you ride the wave, and wait for it to pass. that idea of inherent sexuality will fade, but in the meantime you'll be giving a lot of people something they desperately crave, and making them happy in a way that upsets a lot of people who seem to care more about who's enjoying something than who's being hurt

>cartoons won't change the view of most people
this is false, cartoons are ludicrously influential.

1- this is not how the world works, people have different opinions regarding subjects, and you are acting like your view is what should he better without evidence.
2-your argument can be used to normalize anything.
3-children’s cartoons don't change shit regarding the behavior of most of the world on the use of clothes.

eh, that's dangerous thinking, user.
if that were true, it would be vital that we immediately ban all cartoons. there's no such thing as good influence from fiction, other than 'making you think about things more'
media REFLECTS the view of a FEW people who are in charge of deciding which views are allowed.

And videogames makes people sexism right?

my view was first, it has yet to ever be proven wrong. it was steamrolled over without anyone's vote.
genuinely-bad-things ARE being normalized right now, at an alarming rate, and NOT using my logic. quite the opposite.
and it wasn't 'most of the world' until extremely recently. get some perspective, then come back to the discussion

They did show Bart's dick very briefly in the movie. And they've shown Homer naked from the back lots of times, Marge as well sometimes

>my view was first, it has yet to ever be proven wrong.

You say this based on what?

>it was steamrolled over without anyone's vote.

And what you want is?

>genuinely-bad-things ARE being normalized right now, at an alarming rate

Who decides what is good or bad in this case? You and your limites view on the world, trying to judge everything and everyone else?

Can there be a better influence than "making you think about things more"?

some of them encourage it

Hey faggot namefag, looks like we have the same eeenf fetish XD tell me where you found these pics. I love them naked girls, even more if they are ashamed, I don't see the point of the casual nudity fetish threads on /d/.

>some of them encourage it
Don't be a faggot....say names them. Show me how videogames makes people sexist.

You mean the original versions because those are all edits you know.

I don't want this to turn into Cred Forums, but Hitman and GTA stick out in my mind.

>these examples
So you are saying that videogame also make people more violent?

Where the hell are you taking this form?

I played Ocarina of Time and it made me beat a hooker to death with a tire iron.

Excellent question. Really any one that has kind of a bit of a lowbrow sense of humor. Dexter's Lab was great for this, so was Billy and Mandy and Simpsons. Stuff that plays into the instinct of nudity being taboo, and thus, hilarious.
He's right. I'd rather they get started with a harmless cartoon gag than have it constantly denied from them and having them Google "[so and so] naked" thinking they're just gonna get stuff like the show but ending up getting hardcore Rule 34. THAT I guarantee will turn them into pedos.
>Hey faggot namefag
Ah, love the ring to it. Maybe that should be my name from now on.

Anyway, I don't FIND a lot of these pics. They're fuckin' hard to find and keep gettin' axed. Most of this stuff I buy myself just to make a point. It's quite fun. Sometimes I even edit 'em myself it it's easy.

Why do Cred Forums always obsess with children cartoons? If you want more mature content demand more adult animation.

We'd be more interested in adult animation if it were actually adult and not just adolescent.

Why you even is a namefag? Are you an attention whore?

Well they're only ever really in the games for eye-candy, ear candy and sexist jokes. I don't want vidya to be banned or anything, but to say they never encourage sexism is pretty obtuse.

>So you are saying that videogame also make people more violent?
They do make people think about violence differently, a lot of people say things like "our team", "sniped" and "rekt" when talking about real wars. Also, you get a payoff for the violent attitude changes in videogames, getting it out of your system if you will. There's no such payoff for the sexist influence. Finally it's much easier to get away with being sexist than being violent IRL so the sexism influence is much more likely to manifest itself.

Proper branding is kinda important.

The guy is just wanting to spread his fetish, disguised as progressiveness. The worst kind of faggot. Pic related is him.

He has an obssession with underage girls nude in cartoons, and instead of being an open lolifag like most people around here, he acts like a faggot progressive.

Do you have any real study about this, or you are just saying that people can't separate videogames from real life?

Childrens cartoons are what get made so the people that like cartoons are the people that like children's cartoons. It's not rocket science

Are fetishes ever disguised as something other than progressiveness?

Wait weren't Ami and Yumi meant to be adults in their cartoon? Why would that be such a big deal to not have censored?

Video games are a part of real life. Studies are bullshit and never get published.

>Are fetishes ever disguised as something other than progressiveness?


At least on this site you wouldn't need to disguise your fetish as progressiveness to feel superior to others. The guy clearly just want fap material yuki.la/aco/607775

This is a big "no" answer.

Of course it's a no answer. How could it even be studied?

This? An act? You're funny. Whatcha see is whatcha get.

By the way, as I've said before, the beatings will continue until morale improves.

Also? You missed a spot.

So you are making claims without evidence or proof?

Fuck off,

So you are just autistic, that pay for dozens and dozens of underage girls naked, including NSFW art and claim that "its totally just a sociological study and not my fetish", even if YOU said that it is porn inumerous times on your old account?

I know that you are probably new here, but you can be just open regarding your fetish.

This post gave me cancer.

Hell, he even says that it is his fetish in that site. Nigga is just coming out as a huge fedora-tier hypocrite.

You're lucky my response pic of Dexter having the same thing happen to him in an official comic isn't loading, or else your argument would fall to ribbons.

Gonna need a bit more citation than that.

And by the way, the fact that you're so convinced I'm some kinda pedo monster as if that's the only conclusion you can think of means my job isn't over.

The evidence is that it's obviously true.

Its open on your furry account dude.

And its funny how you are such a self important fedora regarding it,.because the problem is NOT the fact that you fap to underage characters, no fucking body here would condemn you for that, a lot of people here does it. You probably aren't even as much as a pevert as I am. The problem is that you are a hypocrite attention whore autist, trying to pass as some sort of cruzader and acting self important while doing so, when you just want fap material.

...

This.

Why the obsession with needing nudity to be shown on children's programming?

I mean, as a quick gag it's funny, and I've seen it in modern shows. But thinking it'll make kids feel better about their body or whatever other bullshit this guy is trying to push is ridiculous. All he wants is fap material.

You keep acting like those two are mutually exclusive. There's certainly nothing preventing me from appreciating the art I commission while ALSO using it to further a cause. That'd just be unhealthy.

As for the name thing, eh, I just like to have a consistent name. See some guys at /tg/ do it all the time, might as well do it to. Didn't know it so triggered Cred Forums.

Ooh, I'm gonna need Magneto's helmet for the telepath here. Seriously, I'm pretty sure you don't know me, like, at all.

Saddest part is my attempts to prove my innocence will just get shot down. We autists, we don't quite operate under the spectrum of humanity, after all. Not above it, mind you, more confused by it.

You can like looking at little girls without wanting to fap to them. They're pretty Aesthetic

Just admit you want more fap material, your account is filled with edits and pictures of Cred Forums characters naked.

You don't actually care about the animation industry having more freedom in what can be broadcasted, and the sooner you accept that the sooner you'll be better off.

Nigga probably would have had a way better thread if he didn't tried to push his shitty polítical bulshit.

>we REALLY shouldn't be teaching kids about sex until their teen years
jokes on you, I learned what sex was when I was 4 and I'm still a virgin!

If you're going to armchair psychologist me, I'd recommend a little less Sigmund Freud, certainly a lot less Lee R. Emery. Generally, you can pry more information out of your client with selective questioning, as opposed to a conversation that goes like...
>Why are you a pedo?
>'Cuz I'm... not?
>Liar! Say you're a pedo, ya pedo!
>Can't say that, 'cause I'm not.
>Yes you are, pedo!
>I feel like this is less argument and more contradiction.
>No it's not!

Pretty much. It's not like if Cred Forums hated lolishit.

I literally just said all you wanted was fap material, I never said anything about you being a pedophile.

Get your head out of your ass.

>I-I don't have a fetish, you need to show proof!
>show proof
>I-I can have a fetish AND be a polítical activist with the art that I comission from loli porn artists!

Doraemon did it.

Just stop dude.

You are just making you more of a faggot. You are so insecure and projecting so much, that you still think that people are laughting at you because you are a pedo. Fucking kek.

You are on Cred Forums.

And the fact that he is namefaging will forever make he be remembered for his faggotory.

Hell, its the entire reason for why people found his porn account.

This is what happens with an attention whore.

I hope that some day you guys will be enlighted as I am.

You are just very salty victims.

>Enlighted
>Salty victims
WEEEEEEEEEWWWWWWW, hope someone's screencapping this

>you need to put more attention on dialogues and situation.

yeah but see that's the thing, kids don't do that and watch things logically. They know when stuff's 'just TV/a movie' and they know a bad guy dies cause he's the bad guy and it's not real. It's adults who put way too much thought into this shit, i.e see every cracked video ever.

>hope someone's screencapping this
This please.

>I literally just said all you wanted was fap material
Fine, honest mistake, communication error. Still false because that's not ALL I want, but, semantics.
Insecure, hardly. I'm havin' the time of my life here. I actually find this quite fun.
Geez, wasn't aware using a name made me an attention whore. Cred Forums psychology is weird.
>using my name
Aaaand we're done here. This is clearly a battle I can't win. Gotta know when t'fold 'em.

Alright, I'd rather NOT get banned on a place I really like, so I might as well just give up here before anything else bad happens to me. T'was fun, though.

So, to change subject, anyone else think more action cartoons could use a bit more blood? Not gore, just blood.

Your art sucks.

>All children think the same way.

That's not mine. I just couldn't find the shot from the opening.

>I'm havin' the time of my life here.


You probably has a very sad and boring life them.

You have no idea. You're right, though.

Sigh. You know, when I think about it hard enough, this stuff kinda is intended as fap material. And that is its most common use... Alright, you win. You're right. You're righter about me than I am about myself. No surprise, given Cred Forums's always right, but at least now I stopped denying it. The social cause stuff is, admittedly, a bonus side effect, but not the primary reason. You could call it my Lex Luthor day job.

Alright, ya got me when I didn't even get myself. Just wish it didn't take five minutes to figure out.

Sorry about the mess, everyone. Derped my mouth off. And, sorry I got so upset at you. At the very least I'll stop pretending around you guys, 'kay?

I'm keeping it cute and funny, though. Cute and funny and on-model is my fetish.

Stop being a giant faggot, godmann.

no. that won't instantly make them better. that sounds more like you want that stuff in there so you can validate the fact that you're a grown man watching cartoons for kids

>would cartoons as a whole be better if children's cartoons didn't exist and they just made cartoons for patrician wizards like myself

Yeah, I mean broadcast standards are what they are because they're broadcast standards, children's lit and a lot of movies aimed at children are already at that level. The problem (as we can see in a lot of the responses you've gotten) is that to a lot of people "aimed at children" doesn't mean anything other than "meets certain broadcast standards for boobs and swears" hence all these accusations that you just want to see children's programming done away with (unlike them, the mature people who are literally unable to differentiate between something aimed at children and something aimed at adults aside from the absence of these elements implying a high probability that everything they enjoy is at least simple enough for children to appreciate even if it's not suitably sanitized)

So early Regular Show then?

autism

>>>/tvtropes/
>>>/deviantart/

it actually really bothered me as a kid watching homer fall down the gorge

And then you got over it. That's what we call "growing up".

It spooked me too

This post should be the new Cred Forums banner.

>there will never be a Gumball version of "Large Marge" with Nicole

my dick sure thinks so

Please never post again. You remind me of when I was a teenager and thought the world revolved around me