Where did they go right?

No, she can't act. She sounds like a model reading lines, she is painfully wooden and difficult to understand.

But we want characters that look like the comics, acting doesn't matter. it's why MJ isn't allowed to be black in the upcoming spiderman and Flash can't be brown either

Muscle and race are 2 fully seperate issues.

>The bigger problem is what they are going to do to mother boxs

They're be the usual deus ex machina as always. I have no problem with them being turned into more of a MacGuffin than the usual cool iPods that the New Gods use for teleportation and Orion for his daily face lifts.

But she doesn't look like WW and she also can't act.

>the problem is muscle which they are working on.

Just because she's not a body builder champion tier in muscle doesn't mean she doesn't look okay for the role.

Wonder Woman's outfit...
> Fucking Phenomenal
Superman's Outfit
> Very good, blue is better then it was in Mos, however the groin lines + the wrist bands & waist lines being the same color as the blue instead of a contrasting black is a lesser aspect from the Mos suit. Same with the square buckle.
Batman's outfit
> Good darkening it was not needed.
Aquaman's outfit
> Good but wish the trident was slick & reflective.
Cyborg
> Good, need to see more of.
Flash
> Ok, not as bad as people say but then I am bias as I have always wanted extra detail in outfit.

>WB keeping a tight leash on the Zack Attack this time. Giving him as little creative freedom as possible can only help the quality of the movie.

This is what I'm dreading, that they're reining in the glorious Snyder madness to make some by-the-numbers crap. LET SNYDER BE SNYDER. I rewatched BvS today and it fucking ruled.

>She can act fine
Hahaha nice bait.

Apple Red is a good color for the Flash desu

Hans Zimmer

The only part of this promo pic that bothers me is Cyborg and Aquaman. They should have left his BvS costume as is.

idk he had more freedom on MoS and it wasn't as bad.

Man of steel was a .2/10 movie while bvs was a 2/10 movie

MoS is nowhere near as good as BvS, it honestly just feels like a prologue for the latter now.

I think MoS was more of a 5.5/10 movie, while BvS was a 3/10.

SS is a -2/10.

> LET SNYDER BE SNYDER

Between Sucker Punch and BvS, I'm good with the idea of Snyder never getting to be Snyder again. Not every director deserves the same level of freedom.

With MoS he still had Nolan and other WB producers there to check up on things.

And it was a damn better film then fucking BvS.

i wouldn't say she can't act. there's nothing special about her acting skills. just so-so.

i liked her costume and she looks good to me. i don't see any reason to hate her like what these guys are saying.

>Between Sucker Punch and BvS, I'm good with the idea of Snyder never getting to be Snyder again

Sucker Punch is also good.

>With MoS he still had Nolan and other WB producers there to check up on things.

Nolan was a producer on BvS too.

>Sucker Punch is also good.

Snyder haters just don't get it.

Sucker Punch was good. The crazy action and sexy shots were done as parody. Sorry that you're too dumb to pick up on that.

People say Snyder takes superheroes too seriously, that's not actually true. He feels free to reinterpret and be playful with their iconography and characterization, it's people who hate him that take them too seriously.

>Not being able to appreciate the sublimely ridiculous.

youtube.com/watch?v=14GZruL1hrE

youtube.com/watch?v=mlRmTKuEAG4

>Sucker Punch is also good.

Oh come on, it's 2 hours of Snyder masturbating on-screen and thinking wrapping it up in a veneer of parody somehow justifies his fetishistic creative decisions.

>Nolan was a producer on BvS too.

It's pretty well-known that Snyder was basically left alone to whatever the fuck he wanted to with BvS. Nolan had some actual level of involvement with BvS.

Ah yes 2deep4u, the squawk of the Snyder fanboy.

I always imagine you types trying to uniroinically use this defence in an actual conversation with real people and finally understanding how childish it sounds when put to words.

>appreciating Sucker Punch in any way, shape or form
You must be 18+ to post on Cred Forums.

>thinking wrapping it up in a veneer of parody somehow justifies his fetishistic creative decisions.

There is a honest element of sympathy for his female protagonists that shines through. As for the fetishism it needs no justification it's great, and fetishism and superheroes go hand in hand.

If you're too dead inside to appreciate such a bonkers fantasy pic then god help you.

You watch too much porn. Faggot porn. With penises.

i am

>Oh come on, it's 2 hours of Snyder masturbating on-screen and thinking wrapping it up in a veneer of parody somehow justifies his fetishistic creative decisions.

youtube.com/watch?v=nvQxxy1a9oY

It's pretty clear what he's getting at when you hear Blue speak. On one level the world is a prison, on another it's a brothel, men trying desperately to possess women and destroying them in the process.

youtube.com/watch?v=cZ12ghCqO3o

I've seen a change in the past few months. Snyder fans have perfected their arguments and have Snyder haters on the defensive. Soon all of Cred Forums will have to admit that MoS and BvS are the best modern cape films.

Superman's wrist bands changing colors actually.youtube.com/watch?v=AOLqQ69u2GY

The only thing ridiculous about it was that it was trying to make me feel guilty for wanting to masturbate to it. If I took it at face value, it was generic action shit, and if I tried to take it on a deeper level, it was 2deep4u pretentious bullshit.

> Snyder fans have perfected their arguments and have Snyder haters on the defensive

Anyone have that picture with the guy yelling at Hitler for killing Jews and Hitler responds with "Well all I wanted to do was kill all the Jews, but okay?"

There's nothing more pathetic then the "Oh yes my side is oh so totally reasonable while the dirty fucking PLEBS on the other side never have a cogent argument, oh yes we're all so literally right all the time." bullshit. It makes you look incredibly insecure.

Sure. Right around the time I become president.

>If I took it at face value, it was generic action shit, and if I tried to take it on a deeper level, it was 2deep4u pretentious bullshit

How is it pretentious? What does that even mean?

>Snyder fans have perfected their arguments
>Soon all of Cred Forums will have to admit that MoS and BvS are the best modern cape films.
Are Snyderfags the most pathetic and delusional fags on this board? Seems like it.

That would be the posters who think TFA was good.

Having some connectivity in the universe. We're three movies in, but the movie share huge ties to each other, to the point where Justice League characters even cameo in Suicide Squad.

I can't think of a single thing in the DCEU that was universally liked. Quite a feat.

MoS BvS and WW were castigated from day one. SS looked promising and casting Leto got people excited but then MOM'S GONNA FREAK and reshoots happened and it never recovered.

>I can't think of a single thing in the DCEU that was universally liked

Affleck's actual performance in BvS probably comes closest. Not the WRITING for Batman, his performance.

Oh, and Viola Davis as Waller.

Get your Batman out of my Superman and Suicide Squad movies, damnit.

Get ready for Booyah Begins.

Batman and Aquaman look good.
The rest look like not so good

>MoS is nowhere near as good as BvS
Bullshit.

He's kind of hot.

BvS is more interesting than MoS, also weirder and funnier. Having a secondary protagonist also helps the world feel way more real.

By pretentious, I mean it kept thinking it was subtle when it pretty much bashed you over the head with its symbolism.

More like where did they all go wrong?

>Geoff Johns in charge
>quips and lighter tone
>crappy Batsuit
>6 members instead of 5 or 7
>no GL
>Cyborg instead of Martian Manhunter

>I mean it kept thinking it was subtle

No it didn't you liar.

Hopefully Supes stays dead till 5 minutes towards the end.

Hopefully Snyder does the whole Watchmen thing when it comes to Flash's speed.

Casting. Henry Cavill IS Superman, you can't argue this fact. He bears a true physical likeness to the character, and I truly believe with a good script he can be the happy-go-lucky Supes we all know and love (and I liked Snyder's grimdark Supes btw!)

>Martian Manhunter

>FloatingGoyerHead.png

All the ridiculous Diet Terrence Malick flashbacks in MoS at lest got me emotionally invested in Clark's story. There was very good individual scenes in that film even if the script was basically fitted together with chewing gum and dried-out Elmer's glue.

I had zero emotional or narrative investment in anything in BvS. By the time Doomsday came on and the big monster mash started all I could think about was how I could just walk out in the middle of the big final fight and not cared at all. I had zero investment in anything going on by the finale, it may as well have been a blank screen.

BvS was pretty emotional to me, you got Batman at his lowest point, Superman just trying to fit into this world, both of them deeply questioning their own existences, in the end bonding over a shared humanity.

>"I'll make you a promise, Martha won't die tonight"
>*shared nod of understanding*

That gave me feelings.

Costume Design of Diana and Batman.
Beyond that and a couple of scenes, nowhere.

PRAISE SNYDER

Except the entire conflict was so internalised that I was entirely disconnected. Snyder has always been weak at directing actors and this script called for nuanced performances that Snyder just doesn't have the talent to bring out of Cavill or Affleck, so instead Snyder just falls back on his awful dime-store symbolism as a stopgap.

I don't have an issue with a dark, complicated Batman/Superman story by default. These are the two most adapted capes in fiction, at this point anything is fair game in terms of tone. But this just isn't a compelling story on a character or narrative level, and it's a quagmire of self-conflicting mythological metaphors on a thematic level.

I have a pretty high tolerance and level of appreciation for ambitious failures, and I mean "I thought True Detective Season 2 was underrated and deserves a second look from the public" level. But BvS was pretty much devoid of merit to me.

>awful dime-store symbolism

Why do people react so badly to telling a story visually? Do they even like movies?

Yes, because not liking Snyder's visual storytelling clearly means I don't like visual storytelling at all.

That's weak bait even by Snyder fanboy standards. What's next, I hate the concept of music because I didn't like Zimmer's score?

I just assume people hate visual storytelling because they loved Civil War and it had none at all.

>I hate the concept of music because I didn't like Zimmer's score?

for fucks sake, how much of a pleb can someone be?

youtube.com/watch?v=Rdc6QjBNOOU

They like fast food movies

I didn't expect strong visual storytelling in Civil War though, that's never been a strength of the MCU.

Nothing in BvS even approached the flight scene in MoS. It's just constant self-conflicting references ot mythology and classic literature, like if they put enough in it will equal proper characterisation in lieu of actual scenes between the people in the story.

>actual scenes between the people in the story.

Whenever people say this it's like they blanked out when the characters started talking. All the characters in the movie are given moments to outline their feelings and motivations to other characters.

>people unironically defendin Sucker Punch
god damn, I mean I liked MoS and theres some things I liked about BvS, but this can only fit in the mind of a raging deluded Snyderfag

They just dully repeat the same conversations over and over again, Batman and Superman constantly whining to their confidantes that the other person is a threat that must be stopped with an occasional detour to the Lex Luthor Spaghetti Land. It's the same conversation on loop for 90 minutes.

There's no drive to the characters in the story, Luthor basically has to kidnap Martha just so the third act of the movie will start.

>she can act fine
No, no.

She can camwhore fine and that's a great skill and all, but she can't act.

But user, everyone knows gay porn parody costumes are god-tier and this ain't god-tier.

Sucker Punch extended edition is great, i can't understadn how Snyder thought that movie was 0g13 worthy, but it's a solid movie, it's a shame they didnt let him put more musical numbers.

BASED SNYDER

>There's no drive to the characters in the story

No drive? They're nothing but fucking drives. The movie is nothing but 3 men and their drives fucking up the place. Batman is driven to justify his own existence by eliminating Superman as a potential threat, Superman is driven to try do good in world where that might not be possible, and Lex is driven to destroy any challenge to his earthly power and take revenge on the world/god for his father's abuse.

HAIL SNYDER.

>extended edition
this is another of my grips with Snyder
if you cant make the movie strong enough in the time you have (because you KNOW the studio doesn't want a 3-hours film) then your'e plain incompetent
wich is sad since the UC of BvS was allright

The Sucker Punch Extended Edition is less than 2 hours.

Twoo weeks before Batman v Superman came out they put out a press release that said "Our movie is probably too smart for audiences.".

Not only was that incredible (and preemptive!) damage control, it gave the perfect meme to all the Cred Forums assholes to defend their contrarianism.

He thinks he's Tarintino or Nolan. They get 3 hour movies that are extremely heavy on the dialogue, so he feels entitled to them too.

Suicide squad was more like 4.7

A movie cannot have a negative rating that makes no sense

HAIL SNYDRA

sorry, didn't know
guess I know what im downloading next

I liked sucker punch until i rewatched it and realised they were not auctualy prostituting the inmates.

>sexy shots were done as parody
Your thinking of Michael bay (although the joke is starting to wear a little thin)
Synder was just making empty symbolism

...

That is a valid criticism, but on the other hand we should point fingers are modern Hollywood. 3 hours long Operas or plays are not weird, the directors shouldnt be limited by the short attention spams of the public. As for Sucker Punch, Zack's version is better, but it's mostly small details, a little more crude

Which is a retarded point to be making.

well

there's only six of them, so they didn't follow through on their earlier threats

>Synder was just making empty symbolism

"empty" That's a meme.

>generic action shit
Im not going to say it was a good film but the action was far from generic.

>Giving him as little creative freedom as possible can only help the quality of the movie.

amazing

because he's radiating light onto the back of Skeletor's shield?

I think pretty much everybody liked batmans warehouse fight against the thugs.

Also the teamwork in the final attack against doomsday (until they ruined it by killing superman for some reason)

Nothing for man of steel maybe the bit in the closet where he heats ths door handle

This is going to be a big stinky poo of a movie, everyone can see it except the people bankrolling the project. Warners are idiots.

>Geoff Johns in charge
Johns is fine as long as he is kept away from the new gods or the endless
Wait fuck

The problem is he is no at deciding what to put in the theatrical cut.
We can forgive him the emails because that was probably studio mandated but that overly long dream sequence was all his.

>People rightly point out that Snyder is the problem
>N-No! Y-You just d-don't UNDERSTAND him!
Y'all are pathetic

>I can't think of a single thing in the DCEU that was universally liked. Quite a feat.
Faora.
I hate the DCEU and everything it stands for but I'll waifu Faora. Shame she was a complete waste of a casting.

>wondie in the middle
>supes off to the left somewher