Do you agree with Wonder Woman?

He is a master of tantric retrograde ejaculation.

Who writes this dialogue? Its cringy as fuck.

I actually tried to study that shit once. I got scared because my stupid girlfriend at the time said it could give me cancer. She cut short my career as a sex god.

WW can never have a healthy relationship with men because she'll never outgrow her Amazonian roots.

>ruins Lois
Post-Flashpoint Lois is shit though. She is a asshole that would out her best friend for a quick buck, recognition and fame.

>Implying Wonderwoman can't kegel so hard it crushes sperm on a microscopic scale

Wondy's hymen is untouched.
She is old school, and uses the oldest trick in the book to keep her virginity intact:

Her ass

Superman's just into the idea because he thinks he'll finally be able to kiss Bruce on his lips. He's not even paying attention to Diana.

>I actually tried to study that shit once. I got scared because my stupid girlfriend at the time said it could give me cancer.
Seems like you are the stupid one for actually believing that you can get cancer like that.

>a homewrecker stalker

It's weird how people treat any "interloper" into one of the otp ships as a homewrecker even before the otp even has a chance to get together in a renewed continuity.

I like to think that Wonder Woman is barren and if she wants a child, she has to complete a series of challenges posed by her gods to win the privilege. It could serve as a nice adventure for her and Steve.

But that is what he is.

>It's weird how people treat any "interloper" into one of the otp ships as a homewrecker even before the otp even has a chance to get together in a renewed continuity.

In the Pre-52 continuity she'd come unto Superman despite knowing that he was a married man and in most Elseworlds she'd patiently wait for Lois to croak to jump on Superman.

That's not a nice characterization for her.

It's only cringey to you because Diana is laying down some hard truth rather than giving each of them the runaround like some shitty teen drama. She's talking about the three of them as a team, and their past inclinations toward each other.

Batman has feelings too. Deep down.

She did it to prevent Superman from being blackmailed.

>In the Pre-52 continuity she'd come unto Superman despite knowing that he was a married man
That only happened once, and it was when Diana and Clark were stuck on Valhalla for 1000 years fighting some war. And even then she respected Clark's wishes to stay loyal to Lois.

She still made her move when she thought she had a good chance. There's another issue where she was trying to convince Superman to not marry Lois despite them already being fiancees.

>she'd come unto Superman despite knowing that he was a married man

As far as I know she did it once, when they both thought Lois was deader than Disco in Valhalla. That's not homewrecking, that's just sad that Clark will hold onto someone for a millennia.

Like that DC 1 million? They portrayed it as noble and romantic, but Clark waiting alone for a hundred thousand years was just sad and fucked up.

>She still made her move when she thought she had a good chance.

A 1000 years later. Moving in on a widower isn't homebreaking.

It happened during Superman had lost his powers and was feeling insecure, it happened when they got stranded in the Norse Gods' Valhalla for 1000 years and once more in somewhere else.

Either way, my point still stands. That characterization of Wonder Woman is a bad one. She comes off as an obsessive woman who's using her friendship to stalk her prey while waiting the right time to make her move, despite knowing well enough that the man loves someone else.

She still knew he loved Lois, despite her being dead or not.

Wonder Woman was used to play second prize for Lois and as a prop show what a great character and husband Superman is.

Do you think that is good for WW?

>She still knew he loved Lois, despite her being dead or not.

Ye, most widows/widowers loved their spouse. They also move on. You know, if they're healthy.

You don't bury your dick with your dead wife.

So? You ignore my point. Do you think that story treated WW well?

I don't. For me she was used as a mere prop to elevate both Superman's character and his marriage to Lois.

>So? You ignore my point. Do you think that story treated WW well?

What, that she'd want to be with a guy who she fought with for a thousand years? Hell yeah. If anything Clark just came across as bad for his holding out for someone centuries dead.

That's just inhuman.

Before that story we already had stories where it was clear that Wonder Woman wanted Superman's dick and that she felt jealous of Lois.

Then you've a story where Superman's shown as the best and most romantic husband there is, by not wanting to betray Lois' memory even after 1000 years alone.

Wonder Woman, meanwhile, comes off as the desperate love-struck pretender, who tried to take her chance while Superman was in a vulnerable state despite knowing that Superman'll never love back her or ever forget Lois.

Nah, man. WW was thrown under the bus.

Have you given any thought to how long a thousand years is? At all? I want you to imagine going 5 solid years without some real companionship.

Now multiply that by 5. 25 years of sleeping alone. Multiply that by 4. 100 years of no sex. No lingering hugs. No kisses.

Multiply that by ten and actually turn someone down afterwards. wtf. That's completely inhuman. That's the single most alien thing he's ever done.

>Superman's shown as the best and most romantic husband there is, by not wanting to betray Lois' memory even after 1000 years alone.

No, Superman is shown to be as alien as aliens get. There's nothing admirable about carrying a torch for a millennia. It's sad and fucked up.

>That's completely inhuman.

No, that's super. Superman proved himself to be a super-husband, because he's a super-guy. That's what the story was about.

Have you never dealt with romances where the character is unable to forget the love of his life despite circumstances? She could've died young after they had spend a single night together, but the character despite being an old man never forgot her and never had relations with anyone else. He'd spend his entire life waiting for her return, either in life or death.

It's strange, but also incredible because of that, and sad, which only adds to the romance. And that's what Joe Kelly and Grant Morrison did with Superman/Lois Lane romance.

Meanwhile Wonder Woman served the role of "the other" who's trying to come up between the MC and the love of his life.

Superman in Valhalla didn't need to be with Diana, but he needed to be with someone. That's just ridiculous otherwise. It's also supremely silly that he even remotely remembered the English language afterwards.

Real talk, he shouldn't have even been able to remember Lois's name.

>There's nothing admirable about carrying a torch for a millennia. It's sad and fucked up.

It's romantic.

>Superman in Valhalla didn't need to be with Diana, but he needed to be with someone.

Superman wouldn't betray his own heart. He isn't a slut.

>Superman proved himself to be a super-husband, because he's a super-guy.

Superman proved himself to be inhuman because he obviously doesn't have human needs.

>Have you never dealt with romances where the character is unable to forget the love of his life despite circumstances?

I've dealt with real life and telling my mom to start dating years after my dad died.

>It's strange, but also incredible because of that

No, it's just strange and weird and it's obvious that they didn't really understand or even think about the overwhelming weight of the amount of time they decided to go with.

>It's romantic.

>He isn't a slut.

You guys have a pretty low bar for slut:

>2 bed partners in a millennia? what a harlot!

lol

>2 bed partners in a millennia? what a harlot!

It's not about that. It's about Superman not going against what he tells him. He knew that his heart still belong in its entirety to Lois. That's why he'd never sleep with Wonder Woman, no matter how much she could crave his cock.

Lots of people talking about the SM/WW romance or lack of romance, but what about Batman?

How would they even get along?

>He knew that his heart still belong in its entirety to Lois.

A woman who he can barely remember the looks of. Dude, it was fucked up. Sorry that you think it's romantic, but then again, people often think fucked up things are romantic.

>but what about Batman?

I think they should probably bone a few times. I don't see it going anywhere. Bruce is destined to die alone.

They got along very well in the pre-52 comics, specially the JLA era. They've great banter, they like to spar together, they're pragmatic during missions and they're independent enough to function separately. They're also royalty of sorts despite not enjoying the adulation.

They have great secual chemistry but can't work as a real couple and they have to deal with that.

I like the idea that he dies alone loving her, despite shooting down any chance at a romance they might have and even helping her realize she has someone better in Steve. Bruce can also help Steve get his chance with Wonder Woman, with him and Steve being bros.

That's something i can see Bruce doing. Doing everything to make two people happy, specially if one of them is someone he likes, while suffering quietly alone because he's used to that and that's his element.

Bruce still has Selina.

Source?

They make Superman out to be such a boring person.

>Bruce still has Selina.

No he doesn't. Bruce, when it comes down to it, will always drive the woman away. It's the one thing his prep time will always fuck him over with. He's always got time to think about all the ways he's going to get hurt, and/or hurt them. This is relationship poison.

>Bruce is destined to die alone.

No, he is destined to die in battle

>No, he is destined to die in battle

Alone. We all know Clark is going to die fighting, he always does.

But he's never alone.

I never liked Selina with Bruce, not because of ships, but because i think that Catwoman has potential away from Batman.

I also like the dynamic they had where they were too independent and wanted opposite things, so it never worked beyond the physical aspect and general friendship.

I want to see Selina with someone else. I was hoping for Superman and Catwoman for a bit and i liked her with that Japanese woman.

Close friend and they were grwat all around. The only thing that stopped them from being together were the editors back in the prenu52 days who didnt want a super near him.

Yeah, i find near the distinction between him and Dick.

Dick enter his relationships head-one without really thinking about the future and his heart is a fickle little bitch. One day he wants this chick, the other he wants another chick. So his relationships are always messy and full of heart-break.

Bruce, though, will think of all the possible outcomes and if any of them end up either hurting him or the girl, or his mission, they he end things before it can even start. He'll rather die thinking about the "If..." then actually go through with things and find out.

Batman should die alone on a garbage while bleeding out.

He is a better character than your favorite character :D

He's one of my favorite characters. I love Batman, but i still want to see him die all alone inside a big dumpster filled with disgusting left overs and garbage.

which South American being paid in pinto beans drew this

That's oddly specific, but this is Cred Forums.

So... threesome?

I also want Bruce to realize that he's utterly alone and miserable, and too old to continue doing this. So he dons his suit one last time knowing full well this will be the last because he can't face life without not being Batman. The other characters don't even realize he's missing. It's the garbage collectors that find Batman's bloodied, burned and shit filled body when they go dispose their garbage truck in the big dumpster site.

The JL, Bat-Clan and so only find out about his death throughout the news when it is televised that old Bruce Wayne's body was found in a dumpster site wearing Batman's costume.

Remember that horrible Spiderman misery porn book? I always wondered who the target market was. Welp. Here you are.

Batman doesn't deserve to be happy at any moment. It doesn't fit.

Bro that is just wrong
.Kek

GET OUT OF HERE, BATMAN BELONG IN GARBAGE CAN!

Yeah he does. What the hell is wrong with you man? He has 4 sons, a butler who raised him, the biggest company in Gotham and maybe the world. Bruce deserves happiness man.

Joker please leave

GET THE FUCK OUT REEEEEEEEEEE

His sons will left him, the butter will die, the company will be co-opted under his nose during a merging and he'll end it all because he can't face life anymore. It is the proper ending.

It is just sex, for God's sake! It doesn't have to mean anything.

Diana will be back by 8 to have dinner with Steve.

All I see here is a threeway about to happen

Oliver Queen? Is that you? Stop writing those Batman fanfics of yours.

>there are actually people who want to see Batman be happy

Bunch of plebs.

If Oliver can have his life fucked up, so can Bruce.

>there's casuals that only watch cartoons

But his life is already fucked up. Why would you do more than that? Based Arrow would just keep making jokes. Bruce would just go off the deep-end and start killing people.

Bruce would never kill people.

That's a lie and you know it

He'd end himself sooner.

>No, that's super. Superman proved himself to be a super-husband, because he's a super-guy.
Oh shut the fuck up.

Mark Bagley

Actually I'd say Oliver is the one who actually winds up better off.

Bruce dying miserable I can get. He has a psychological NEED to do as he does. It's about this obsessive revenge and a desire to terrify his enemies. It's what pushes Dick away to become Nightwing, for example. His motivations will always turn back to the night his parents die. He can perhaps break out of that eventually, but everyone in his life for most of his arc either helps or leaves.

Oliver is different. Oliver pushes people away not because he's a psychotic, but because he's just an asshole. Roy becomes Arsenal for a different reason than Dick becomes Nightwing. But you can reconcile with an asshole and there are people with whom you can still "click". Which is why Oliver always has Dinah as his "pretty bird" and why even though he's kinda shitty Conner can look up to him.

Wait, are you saying that Bruce is incapable to connect with people or people with him?

>Bruce bleeding out in some back alley just like his parents

That's pretty pottery man.

Man, you have some Mommy issues.

What? No. The hell. Why?

Batman's going to attempt to fuck both Superman and Wonder Woman, not merely one of them. That's double the danger, double the prep-time.

This is his most dangerous mission yet. Can he pull it off?

Right?

>She did it to prevent Superman from being blackmailed.

Completely bullshit excuse and you know it.

So this is where the threesomes starts right? I'm getting a threesome vibe here.

Clark is the only one who could make an honest man of Bruce.

What about when she was into Aquaman during the Morrison JLA days? I mean, yeah, he was in his shirtless/lion-mane/harpoon hand phase, so I can kinda see it, but any thoughts from the audience here?

In the pre-52 continuity Aquaman was the first man she met and i guess kissed, so they had history.

And the delusion that THEY have the super-special vagina that can get to those feelings is what draws women to him. Being attracted to "bad boys" is the purest form of female arrogance.

Huh. I finally get why girls ship BM/WW so much.

Aquaman was her first boyfriend, that she met when she was naive and stupid. Aquaman is still way too immature, but he's also funny and they've history.

Superman was the perfect guy she, unfortunately, let go and that she only realized was the perfect husband material when he was already with Lois. So now it is too late and she'll forever regret it.

Batman's the guy nobody likes and nobody'd think she'd ever have anything with, because she is who she is and he's Batman, but that's why he's perfect to get down and dirty with. Just pure sex.

Steve Trevor is the love of her life, but their deal is complicated and they're always on and off again.

Would that be accurate?

Well, in the pre-Flashpoint/post-Crisis DCU, Steve was in his 60s and married to Etta Candy when Diana first arrived in "Man's World" (which may have been George Perez's biggest mistake in his reboot...). I know she had a couple of boyfriends durning that period, like this skeezy little detective during John Byrne's run and a secret agent named "Nemesis" (who actually underwent trials on Themyscria to prove his worth as her potential husband).

Don't forget Ramnah and Trevor Barnes.

>Aquaman was her first boyfriend, that she met when she was naive and stupid.

What? When was this?

WW and Aquaman just kissed one or two times, that's all that I remember.
WW had a crush on Supes, because he is ideal, but she accepted that they can only be friends and she started to see him only as friend during JLA run and after.
There is a lot of people who likes Bruce. I don't even remember who don't like him, except for few GL's, but they don't actually hate him and have mutual respect. Also Diana loved him (BN is solid proof) and he, probably, loved her too. But they can't be together because reasons.
Trevor was her love long time ago, and starts to be that way in rebirth. And it's a best choice.

Was Batman and Wonder Woman really in love pre-52?

>86713272
She's basically a golem, right?

Spoken like someone who has a vagina...or likes dicks.

Yeah. They even dated a few times in JLA in the late 90s/early 2000s. It was serious enough they had a hypothetical flashforward about their kids.

Yeah, i was remembering about their time together.

She turned him down after seeing their future possibilities together because it left her overwhelmed. He wasn't happy about it.
Then later he found out she was dating Tom Tresser, Nemesis, which left him jealous, but he tried to accept it and even help the couple get closer in attempt to make her happy. Of course, it was later revealed that she didn't really loved Tresser and Tresser left her.
Meanwhile he brushed Selina off, despite caring a lot for her, and fake dated Jezebel Jet to learn more about the Black Glove, remaining alone after that.
While her was shown to really love him during Blackest Night when Aphrodite used an illusion of him to save her from the black ring.
As for him there were several clues here and there that he still liked her and didn't wanted to date anyone else again.

This.
Diana is hundreds of years old she has no need for pussyfooting around.