Alright Cred Forums, here's the deal- My philosophy class has turned into a complete shitshow...

Alright Cred Forums, here's the deal- My philosophy class has turned into a complete shitshow, since through a couple misunderstandings and one smartass, next week we're slated to have an inter classroom debate on the morality of homosexuality. No one else wanted to be the first to say they'd argue against it so I went for it. Was holding out hope someone around here might have some real shocking shit I can put up during opening statements, like those screenshots of the bugchasing forums or the fuckers drugging their sons, or failing that, something like a visually pleasing infographic on AIDS stats among the gay community.

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youtube.com/watch?v=Tt19Vp9uBiQ
infowars.com/lesbian-couple-talks-forcing-their-son-into-queer-relationships/
youtube.com/watch?v=euXQbZDwV0w
youtube.com/watch?v=eE9JlONzrVU
nationalvanguard.org/2016/06/homosexuals-are-normalizing-pedophilia/
youtube.com/watch?v=Ubfv2x6mN2U
youtube.com/watch?v=ayhELTzYETI
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harry_Hay
rt.com/news/pedophile-syndicate-russian-boy-481/
youtube.com/watch?v=pf9oD_xl8mI
youtube.com/watch?v=vnVWZYGixSA
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prenatal_hormones_and_sexual_orientation
pastebin.com/aiTLKLJc
adherents.com/misc/hsk.html
cdc.gov/hiv/group/msm/
youtube.com/watch?v=Zw6_ZJZmOGc
conservapedia.com/Homosexuality_Statistics
youtube.com/watch?v=eE9JlONzrVU&feature=youtu.be
blog.okcupid.com/index.php/gay-sex-vs-straight-sex/
youtu.be/jjPQ_jVlEnQ
youtube.com/watch?v=BMYBl2uzXEw
youtube.com/watch?v=dtOk1pzvg6g
radio.therightstuff.biz/2016/06/18/darwin-digest-episode-16-high-risk-behaviours/
conservativecolloquium.wordpress.com/2007/10/01/homosexual-activists-intimidate-american-psychiatric-association-into-removing-homosexuality-from-list-of-disorders/
onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/1467-9450.00302/abstract
cdp.sagepub.com/content/15/5/241.short
humrep.oxfordjournals.org/content/25/1/150.short
psycnet.apa.org/psycinfo/2010-13930-001
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Bump. Good luck, user.

you fucked yourself

Social suicide if you go that route. Gl hf

Make us proud user

Maybe a bit, but screw it, if they haven't bounced me from the school yet, I reckon I'm in the clear.
I'm only here for one more semester and I don't really chum it up on campus much.

Bring up the the high suicide rate among homosexuals, and use that to argue for them being inherently more mentally unstable.

My only issue with homosexuality is it's degenerate footprint on the public image of your people.

But there's no rule that gay's need to be flamboyant so it's really a bad argument at the end of the day.

wont help you much i guess but you could look up volker beck (green party/germany), a politician who advocates gay-rights in germany and europe. he was arrested, tried and found guilty 2 times, for having sex with an underage boy and buying meth, yet is still allowed to keep his mandate in bundestag (had to give up is position in the jewish community tho, go figure). He also propagates early sexual education for children and implementation of homosexual propaganda in said education, the green party is known for their want to liberalize sex with children, some of their members even proclaim that early sexual contacts for children can be empowering and beniffiting.

Definitely an angle I was going to go after.

Bring up different social influences, how different upbringings create faggots etc.

Heres some inspiration OP, good luck
youtube.com/watch?v=Tt19Vp9uBiQ

Sexuality is not a moral issue user. If this smartass is anything like I'm picturing this will be his opening statement too. Even if you can make the case that it is immoral, he'll just switch tactics to make the case that there is no objective morality and all you're expressing is your opinion, and that since your opinion was at one point that of the majority you're part of a system of oppression.

You should have known better desu lad. Is your course not full of the most nauseating pseudo-intellectual /lit/fags going?

I'm on my phone so don't have sources for you but I can give you some pointers.

Like other anons pointed out, you pretty much fucked yourself. But now it's time to mitigate damage to yourself and maximise damage do the degens.

Fact. A child needs a male and a female figure in a family, while growing up, to grow up properly. There has been studies on this. Show em some stats from those. Children in a same sex, house will have psychological and social problems.

You need to not pinpoint homos but say any format other than mom and dad, in a family is problematic for a child. An home cunts are just one such system. That will save u some face later, as u seem to be not directly against homos.

infowars.com/lesbian-couple-talks-forcing-their-son-into-queer-relationships/

youtube.com/watch?v=euXQbZDwV0w

Their sexuality isn't a moral issue, but shit these cunts then get up to with it is. Like adopting baby etc.

Google "kids at gay pride parades". Will surely go to useful shocking articles and have some pics at those degenerate-fests

Got to love most of the audience walking out :D

I was going to see about spinning it not as an objective morality (since I've already been inundated with "SUBJECTIVE" in the past) but see about banking on their faux-altruistic morals- Something to the effect of, "if you truly want to uplift and help those around you, you would not validate this lifestyle-" Work in progress, framework is there but need to spackle over some of the cracks. Cover my ass and whatnot.

Is that even legal (yet)?

Argue that homosexuality is not synonymous with acting like a disgusting person.

Make people think about why the BDSM community marches with the LGBT. Make people realize that you can accept homosexuality while despising people who act flamboyant, annoying and unreasonably promiscuous.

Argue that homosexuality is not inherently bad but the depiction society has of homosexuals and the stereotypes that both the left and the right and the gay community themselves attach to homosexuals is a legitimate problem in society. Then go on to mention AIDS rates, pedophilia rates, POZ and bug chasing, show pictures of kids at gay pride parades being kissed.

That would be good as something of a subpoint, but child raising wasn't so much the primary concern. It'll probably come up, but I don't wanna put all my eggs in one basket in case that particular point isn't of interest to many folks.

Gay men average something like 1000 sexual partners in their life where straights average like 7. They're also 60 times more likely to have HIV. Lesbian women have the highest rate for domestic abuse.

Go for it. It's not social suicide. I'm openly anti-gay and even people with gay family members still consider me a friend.

youtube.com/watch?v=eE9JlONzrVU

Like this.?

Oh and if you're allowed visual aids(heh) then bring that video of the little boy twerking for the gays at a parade while they all cheer and one tries to openly, in public, in front of a camera, grind on the child.

Yeah, that was one I recall seeing.

Play them some of Common Filth's videos like Tumblristas

>be gay and read that
Okay first question, why the fuck is your philosophy class talking about that shit? Predeterminism v. Free Will would be MUCH more fitting for a 102 class

i found this funny because of their reactions but it wasnt really jokes as far as i can tell

Homosexuals Are Normalizing Pedophilia

nationalvanguard.org/2016/06/homosexuals-are-normalizing-pedophilia/

Or this

youtube.com/watch?v=Ubfv2x6mN2U

>first question
>only asks one question
You queers are so fucking retarded.

this

They willingly want to get HIV
youtube.com/watch?v=ayhELTzYETI

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harry_Hay
>"If the parents and friends of gays are truly friends of gays, they would know from their gay kids that the relationship with an older man is precisely what thirteen-, fourteen-, and fifteen-year-old kids need more than anything else in the world"

I got lazy sorry

Or arguments on the existence of God.

this video can easily be beaten, there are tons of straight orgies. Its not a gay thing, There was one porno, I think it was czech where random guys whit no condoms fucked prostitutes in one room, like pay and fuck. The prostitutes where in walls, only their pussy where on display. So yeah check mate homophob.

Don't forget to wear your MAGA hat, even if it's only for the fuck of it.

Point out that Russia has banned gay adoptions since the case of the Russian kid raped for years by his adoptive "dads"

rt.com/news/pedophile-syndicate-russian-boy-481/

And of course, check this out and just replicate it in front of the class word by word ,starting at4.40min;
youtube.com/watch?v=Tt19Vp9uBiQ

Be nice if you could record the whole thing.

link?

The bible thumping really wouldn't fly even on my bumfuck nowhere campus.
Predeterminism v. Free Will was covered in the 101 section. And it went something like this;

>prof wants us to have a healthy dialogue like ye olde Greek forums and would like it to be on something culturally relevant and meaningful today
>dude looks like a lady person who always likes to bring up gay shit of some variety pipes up "how about LGBTQ and homosexuality?"
>left too much of a pause and my irreverent forestry major friend pipes up "And how wrong it is, correct?"
>queue up *GASP* and someone across the room asks him "Are YOU gonna argue that?"
>Whereupon I, in my infinite wisdom said, "Hell, I'll argue it, if it's all the same to everyone else."
>standstill where bluffs have been called and then someone else asks if we're even allowed to debate this
>prof cannot be assed and says as long as it doesn't come down to personal attacks or violence is implicated against either party, he doesn't give a shit

Shitshow.

It's just a Czech porno. Google something similar to what he wrote and you should find it. It's still nowhere near as bad as bugchasing but I'm sure the fag already knows that.

Based forestry bro. But what the hell is he doing in a Philosophy class?

Either part of his gen ed or it was swindled into counting as one of his necessary electives, I'm not entirely privy.

The only way to save yourself is to go full Catholic and cite natural law arguments. You're pretty much fucked if you try creating anything based on arguments besides those. Utilitarianism, Kantian ethics, and the Greeks really don't have shit for you. Don't be autistic and think you can bring facts and figures into this debate (e.g. durghh faggots have AIDS and use drugs). It's philosophy class, so you have to keep it abstract. Use the Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy's article on homosexuality and the Vatican's arguments. You're going to lose, in the eyes of your 19 year old retarded class mates, but you can actually make good arguments that your professor will respect. Most non-tard philosophy majors like contrarians, so it won't be too hard to score prof points.

Gas the fags

>So yeah check mate homophob.
some of my good friends are the gays :^)

>There was one porno
>one
and there was a gay version of this same thing.

tbH, I don't really care but if you are looking at the amount of degeneracy... the fact that a group that represents less than 4% of the population generates the sheer amount of porn that they do is quite astounding. And you're also looking at this small 4% being responsible for a very high amount of STI numbers.


My biggest beef is the gays turned Capt. Picard
youtube.com/watch?v=pf9oD_xl8mI

wtf is that picture

Obviously the pure and innocent interaction between child and man's best friend, duh- Don't you know a puppy when you see one.

Remind them that Matthew Shepherd was killed by his gay partner/drug dealer.

Could you not go with a utilitarian/ aids angle?

you are literally human garbage. 6 Roman Catholics, count 'em, 6 on the U.S. Supreme Court for the Obergfell decision, an overwhelming majority, and they wouldn't lift a finger to preserve the sanctity of marriage. Stop lying you fagit papist freak. You are worse than Jews, with your set the world on fire so you can put out the flames and be a hero mentality, you slime.

He's talking about actual Catholics, not American cafeteria Catholics.

Those are hoaxes. People trolling. You'll be laughed out of the room if you use that.

Also, if you really want to hide your power level, and people give you shit for taking this stance, just tell them it was because no one was willing to step up and it can often be an interesting experience arguing for a position you personally don't support.

It's is a class after all, the point is to learn. No point in not challenging yourself, and sticking to the known.

Basically, just say you're playing Devil's Advocate because, well, somebody has too.

I would argue that while the tendency to be attracted to men is not wrong, those with hmosexual tendencies have a moral obligation to abstain from homosexually sexual and social activity. Then provide reasons why it is advantageous for them to abstain:

Sexual:
propogation of aids
other health issues

Social:
evolutionary advantage of heterosexual mating rituals

Is debating about homosexuality philosophy?

I feel like I should elaborate more.

Set the whole argument up as a moral imperative for homosexuals to abstain from sexual and social activity. To do this you will have to establish that inborn traits can burden someone with a moral imperative. If a child is born with HIV, it is his moral imperative to abstain from intercourse if he lives to that age.

So set up two separate arguments the sexual dangers of homosexuality and the social dangers of homosexuality. Make sure that you do not blame the homosexual for them, but argue that they are burdened with these dangers and it is their moral responsibility to handle their burden properly. Make them tragic heroes born with a terrible load to carry.

Look deepre into the sources given in this image, they should give you some valid stats and reasons for the argument.

I am an unattractive man.
I want to fuck attractive men.
Can I universalize this?
Well, if everyone fucked attractive members of the same sex, you'd run out of attractive members of the same sex to fuck. As an unattractive man, I would be left out.
Therefore, homosexually is only morally permissable if I fuck ugly men, but then there's no point.

wew lad you fucked up

no one can resist tight BOIPUCCI
youtube.com/watch?v=vnVWZYGixSA

I don't care enough about the topic to research it but how does
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prenatal_hormones_and_sexual_orientation
play into overall health and mental soundness if something goes awry at that stage?

maybe if you argued prenatal hormone fuckery > homosexuality, mental instabliity and damaging behaviors > ultimately something that's bad for our society
if you can say that homosexuality necessarily comes bundled with other problematic stuff because of prenatal hormone fuckery then you could say that isn't the dude-fucking itself that's the issue but the surrounding stuff

Don't gays get harassed a lot for being who they are? Would that not attribute to it?

You could probably make something up utilitarian wise against homosexuality, but it would be a rare argument. Generally, utilitarians would probably the pleasure gained by letting fags be fags as a positive benefit. You have to remember that utilitarianism is not that different from hedonism and is a founding ideology for liberalism.

I'm not even Catholic. You're an idiot for not recognizing that judicial decisions are separate from moral decisions. The interpretation of the 14th amendment is a totally different discussion. Catholic based natural law arguments are the most common and most fleshed out philosophical arguments against homosexuality. If OP is going to debate the merits of homosexuality, then it makes sense to go to the strongest and best regarded sources.

nice trips

They weren't prostitutes, they were average Czech women looking for an easy payday.

NUH UH GAYS ARE MENTALLY UNSTABLE BY NATURE DONT TRY AND REASON WITH ME YOU SJW JEW!!!

BE SURE TO OPEN THAT HOMOSEXUALITY IS NOT IMMORAL OR WRONG. Otherwise you will be derailed and destroyed.

Weak:

disease
Societal shift

Strong:

Genetic legacy

Focus on the importance of legacy

Counterarguments:

>General anti-legacy;

adoptionfags and the like. build up the case of every single person in the classroom being the product of billions of years of procreative sex. Not a single person would be in that room if a single one of their millions of ancestors were gay.

Parlay this into an emotional stab at the miracle of life and existence. any arguments against this can be deflected by claiming that they wouldn't even be able to argue if what you claimed is untrue.

>Genetic inevitability

The argument that every generation halves your genetic contribution. This is somewhat true, but focus on the fact that dominant genes reduce this effect and their prominence is increased over time. If you are feeling brave, comment on proper mate selection as a means to preserve your legacy.

Be sure to mention that even if "your genes" are being removed that the exact same genese can be reintroduced, further diminishing this effect.

>ONLY If you have already defeated an adoption gambit

Question whether this dilution is of importance. mention the memetic contributions of your legacy in child rearing. that your idea and principles are carried on through time.

Im bored now, but hopefully I have prevented you from being a complete failure, unlike your father has.

btw this argument seems to work against people with down syndrome, seeing how they're slowly disappearing
"uh it actually isn't about eugenics, it's about public health. the reason we're getting rid of people with down syndrome isn't because they're retarded and can't take care of themselves, it's because they have a bunch of heart problems and stuff. yea"

gay and trans are related. They're both some kind of sexual deviance and both are linked to higher instances of suicide and mental illness.

Just say you are playing the Devils advocate, and denounce your status as a heterosexual, and say you are one of those made up sexualities that let's you be gay without having to suck any dudes off. Then proceed to rip off your clothes, revealing a rainbow banana hammock, and the words "DICK SLUT" and "CUM WHORE" written all across your body in sharpie. Then toss your collection of dildos into the audience and shout "GAY IS THE WAY!!!" End your speech with a classic "And FUCK TRUMP TOO!", and I guarantee that you will get in A in the class. Hell, they might even print you off a few sociology or humanities degrees.

this is how you win

I hope this is of some use to you OP


pastebin.com/aiTLKLJc
adherents.com/misc/hsk.html

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I WILL OVERCOME MY EARTHLY DESIRES

Debates are in 99% of the cases a waste of time. It will be just a shitshow that won't change anyone's opinion in the matter, most people can't bother to have it's views changed even if they get hit in the face multiple times with facts. Add to the equation the fact you're doing this at a college, I'll just say you baited yourself. Personally I wouldn't even bother...

Came to this thread solely for this video :D

This such an incredibly weak argument. Are gays more mentally unstable and prone to depression/illness because of liking men or because they grew up in a society telling them they are freaks/should kill themselves etc

Not enough data to say. So it could be one or the other, or a combination of both.

Even in the most tolerant societies, like Sweden, gays still have mental issues at the same rate as those in less tolerant societies.

When was the last time you actually heard of a gay person being discriminated against?

In a first world country btw

MUH CAKE

I've got some stuff saved for this kinda argument

this. it's a useful point to bring up as long as you acknowledge the idea of minority stress and stuff

Go for the angle of it being symptomatic of some psychological issues, and if they retort with that being because of our homophobic society just show the same statistics from more gay-friendly nations. Also show stats of other "oppressed minorities" that aren't at higher risk for mental health issues.
Quote studies on the sexuality of twins to argue it as non-genetic, remember not long ago there being a larger study on that where if one twin was gay the other one was still most likely going to be straight.
Show how common other types of sexual perversion is with homosexuals to argue against it being an orientation, and instead just a part of a whole slew of perversion born from mental trauma.
Steal some stuff from Sam Hyde.

Realize that most of these peoples beliefs were not the result of intense meditation and philosophizing, but some stupid emotional shit.
Debating, especially public like this, is more about charisma than argument. Watch some great debaters on YouTube and try to ape them.

probably already covered but whatever

some stuff by other anons for the really brave

also got these 2 news things.

I haven't verified them though, and this wouldn't be the first time Cred Forums has posted a fake

and that's the last of what I have saved

>"how about LGBTQ and homosexuality?"

You could argue the following


>Why is infidelity and casual sex so predominant in the homosexual community

>Why is pederasty so common in the homosexual community.

>Why do transgendered people have such a high suicide rate after post-op surgery, and how it can be linked to body dysmorphia disorder

>Why we shouldn't pay for a transgendered person's elective surgery.

Most of all

>Talk about normalization in sexuality; how we look at things that aren't necessarily inherently bad in the short term, but how it can be bad in the long term.

When they say; "Well, other animals can have homosexual traits", be sure to remind them of:

>Most animals procreate for the sake of reproduction

>Animals that seek out pleasure sex are usually bisexual in nature, but will pass on traits with the opposite sex

>The vast majority of animals do not get sex changes; and the ones that do have that options are hermaphrodites

All I can say it to try to keep it on topic to just Homosexuality and like any debate, demand time for disclosing arguments and time for people to respond so you aren't interrupted.

The Left likes to throw in "and what about trans? what about gender fluid people? what about.." ect. Its a tactic where they overwhelm you with their version of logic, and if you are not quick enough to respond, they will negate anything further you have to say.

Unlike some of the faggots here, this is actually true. However, he can still use the fact that gays were in the DSM and considered a mental illness at point and link it to its biological impression on the brain similar to XY example.

He is gonna lose regardless.

your position is indefensible

screaming "degeneracy!" isn't going to work there

Are studies form the 90s even relevant anymore? Those stats probably came form the 80s or before.

>"Well, other animals can have homosexual traits"
This one is going to come up. That's why you never say that homosexuality is unnatural. Having said that, they'll bring it up anyway, but just shut it down with a simple "so is rape and murder and cannibalism". They'll get all buttflustered and accuse you of equating homosexuality with rape and murder, but you just shrug and repeat that all of those are found in nature and that was the argument he presented.

>Debating, especially public like this, is more about charisma than argument
This is by far the most important point. It's so fucking easy to convince people of anything if you've got even the slightest bit of charisma in your body.

Not as good as present of course, but I don't have any reason to believe gays have gotten better since then.

You need to get your facts ready on promiscuity, STDs, and attitudes toward rule-breaking/cheating. Many gays are perfectly fine, well adjusted individuals. By the way, those are the ones who get married. But there's also a substantial number who do stuff that heteros don't do. That's how you get to stats like the average number of sex partners is in the hundreds, bugchasing, STD prevalence, etc.

surprised no one posted this already
cdc.gov/hiv/group/msm/

fall back on this. if anything, open up with this too.

Gas them with vaporized shart and helium.

Well the best one is 55% of all homosexuals will once in their life molest a child during their lifetime.

youtube.com/watch?v=Tt19Vp9uBiQ

>h-help me Cred Forums!

Faggot KYS

...

>white men don't even make the chart
>wonder why this could be

>but just shut it down with a simple "so is rape and murder and cannibalism".

You can also throw in that a good portion of animals when they rape, they kill the offspring of their previous mates.

I agree on charisma, but it's hard to hold such a voice in a situation like this. I think the best thing you can do if you have no charisma is to state the facts, refute the counter arguements and move on the next topic in the debate. Avoid getting hooked on the schematics of the conversation.


Now, OP; as I've stated before, PLEASE bring up the normalization aspects of homosexuality.

>How society got sent into a constant feedback loop by the LGBTQ+ into accepting it as "normal" through pop culture media, advertisement and political statement.
>How confirmation bias is pushed into the fold, making any evidence homophobic.

Example: We can accept a coming-out story from a homosexual, but we always say that when a homosexual comes out as straight, then he was never homosexual to begin with.

Just for fun, throw in the rates of domestic abuse, marriage divorces and annulments in the homosexual community.

96% of all child molesters are male.
1/3 molestation victims are boys.
1-3% of the entire US population is homosexual.

What this means is, best case scenario, 55% of all homosexuals will molest a child.

Flip a coin, if it's head, that faggot is gonna molest a child.

>9008
>second all around highest number

>philosophy class

You mean intraclassroom?

If you show them the "Best case scenario, 55% homosexuals in the US will molest a child" statistic, you are a fucking hero. Please video tape it.

This is for a class, so I doubt they care about your opinion. Just cite natural law theory and the categorical imperative. You're in that class to learn about ethics, yes? So what are you learning by spouting your opinion? Are you an idiot or something, because philosophy as a class is a waste of time even if you do well. Stop wasting everyone's time and cite some ethical theories you and your class could actually learn from.

Just use the greatest weapon: the truth.

Just this week I was in the car with my friend driving through the gay "scene" (it's on the way out of the city). And I pointed out a building with blacked out windows and a sign that doesn't at all state what business is within. I asked my friend who i was driving with if he knew what that place was.

He didn't. But I did. I told him it was a gay bath house. A place literally where gay men meet to have anonymous orgies. He didn't believe me, I told him every city has one. And that it isn't just the most degenerate gays who go, but quite a lot of famous ones you might think were respectable, like Harvey Milk.

Just use the truth, normies like gays because they think they are just like normal people but happen to love their own sex when in truth the average homo is extremely degenerate.

He's talking about white heterosexuals.

>are we even allowed to debate this

Liberals fucking know they are wrong. That's what makes them so terrifying.

Does that 1-3% include lesbians? Because if it does, then the stats are even worse for gay paedos.

96% of all child molesters are male.
1/3 molestation victims are boys.
1-3% of the entire US population is homosexual.
1-3% of the population commits 33% of the child molestation.

What this means is, best case scenario, 55% of all homosexuals will molest a child.

Worst case scenario: Do you even want to know?

What more do you fucking need? Argument won.


God, i fucking hope not.


youtube.com/watch?v=Zw6_ZJZmOGc

sounds like fun

I went to voluntary phil class as well and the teacher was a fucking idiot. was a lot of fun

That's extremely faulty logic. Most child molesters have multiple victims, some dozens or even hundreds. For 55% of gays to be a child molester you have to assume each molests only one victim.

>moving the goalposts
>not including the small penis factor

> 3.8 percent of Americans identified as gay/lesbian, bisexual, or transgender: 1.7 percent as lesbian or gay, 1.8 percent as bisexual, and 0.3 percent as transgender
>1.7 percent as lesbian or gay
So that means that 0.85% of Americans are homosexual men. 0.85% of the population are responsible for 33% of the child molestation.

That's not what moving the goalposts means. Your second part gave yourself away as a really quite bad shitposter, so I'll just stop replying to you.

conservapedia.com/Homosexuality_Statistics

Okay, lets say the average is 1 child per molester. Which it's probably close to. I mean im guessing most of them just molest a child, and likely repeatedly on the same child, instead of doubling the chances of getting caught by molesting 2.

the 55% is the best case scenario, so even if it's like 2 different children per molester, its still likely over 50%.

Another thing you have to take into consideration: This is the "KNOWN" molestation cases, right? The ones that actually get reported to the police.

Imagine how many that doesn't get reported.

>Was holding out hope someone around here might have some real shocking shit I can put up during opening statements, like those screenshots of the bugchasing forums or the fuckers drugging their sons,

That's a really bad argument to try and make as it can be easily refuted by showing examples from some deranged heterosexuals. We sure have had alot of those throughout history.

>or failing that, something like a visually pleasing infographic on AIDS stats among the gay community.

That would only be an argument for why they should be celibate or practice safe sex and not against homosexuality in itself.


As you are a yankee the only road I can even remotely see you have some success with is the religious one. Something along the line of you either stick with the whole bible or none of it. Cherry picking is for fruit-lovers, yada yada.

Oh my fucking God.

Seriously fags need to die.

Fuck, what an evil man.

> 0.85% of the population are responsible for 33% of the child molestation.

But it's even less than that, see: Furthermore, men who molest prepubescent boys typically have no sexual attraction to adult men or women. So that fag you know that you reckon has a 55% chance of being a nonce? If he's had an adult boyfriend that collapses to near 0.

Say that sexuality is malleable and homosexuality is a social construct. You arent born thid way

Hedonism is the death of civilization.
All great societies in the past died once they started to give in to animistic urges to fuck everything with a hole. They decline in strength and a stiff breeze blows them over.

Homosexuality only occurs when you no longer need to fight to survive, when you no longer need to have 10 kids to help forge and hunt for food, then you can butt fuck other men. When you no longer need to fight one another for resources, then you can butt fuck other men.
One of the main things that makes us human and not animals is our self control.

My stance on religion is that it is a memetric model to build a society on. Only strong religions survive.
The bible steers us away from the lavish life styles that the Greeks and Romans had when they turned to dust. Sodom was destroyed for a reason.

I love that you're just making shit up now to preotect your faggot ways.

Mention how the normalization of gayness has tainted male bonding and relationships. "No homo" etc.

cherry picking examples of individual gays being immoral is the worst possible way to go about it

you have to go after homosexuality itself, not individual gays like they represent all other gays

if you do it the way you're planning on doing it, you will 1.) lose the debate 2.) be ostracised 3.) probably fail if this is graded

This is philosophy class, everything should be theoretical.
Showing images of homosexuals being homosexuals will not help your case.

Another main problem with homosexuality is how many sexual partners they have.

On my phone lad but show them bugchasers and at what age theyd poz someone
(in a poll over half said under 18)

I would further add that liking traps is the ultimate beta behavior. You know men like to fuck, and effeminate men and incredibly submissive. So instead of being a man and forging a family, you delude yourself by fucking a faggot who pretends to be a woman.

If there is anything worse than being a fag, (inb4 nigger fag) it's being a guy who fucks or jerks it to traps.

You want the real horror show, point out the health disparities among lesbians. Fat, violent, mentally unstable all of them. Plenty of data on it too.

>debate on the morality of homosexuality
who cares what u stick ur dick in retard no one else is gonna see it lmao

I'm guessing most child molesters get caught the first time, or molest the same boy repeatedly instead of multiple, and higher chances of getting reported to the police.

Take into account that these are just statistics from the KNOWN reports, the ones that actually get reported. The molesters that actually get caught.

Conclusion: Faggots need to die.

>Another main problem with homosexuality is how many sexual partners they have.

I'll see if I can find the link but even this number is skewed. The majority of gays have a similar number of lifetime sexual partners to the general population.

And then there are a handle of ultra-fags who literally have 100 sexual partners a year.

>no one else is gonna see it
>OP's image is of a child seeing gay depravity
hmmm

the 1/3 molestation cases that are boys care a lot.

Shush Muhammad, whites are talking.

Always trust the master race of shit posters when it comes to shit posting (especially irl)

To support this point, bring up the mass pedophilia in the Catholic churches. This was a group that openly accepted the Gay community to become preachers, and protected them from the law. However, their immoral way of life corrupted the children they were supposed to guide and smeared the reputation of an entire religion.

By killing 0.85% of the population we can stop 33% of the molestation.

It is immoral to not exterminate all faggots.

Wew lads

>88073395

28% of homosexual men had more than 1000 partners: "Bell and Weinberg reported evidence of widespread sexual compulsion among homosexual men. 83% of the homosexual men surveyed estimated they had had sex with 50 or more partners in their lifetime, 43% estimated they had sex with 500 or more partners; 28% with 1,000 or more partners. Bell and Weinberg p 308."

79% of homosexual men say over half of sex partners are strangers: "The survey showed 79% of the respondents saying that over half of their sexual partners were strangers. Seventy percent said that over half of their sexual partners were people with whom they had sex only once. Bell and Weinberg pp.308-309."

Modal range for homosexual sex partners 101-500: "In their study of the sexual profiles of 2,583 older homosexuals published in Journal of Sex Research, Paul Van de Ven et al. found that "the modal range for number of sexual partners ever [of homosexuals] was 101–500." In addition, 10.2 percent to 15.7 percent had between 501 and 1000 partners. A further 10.2 percent to 15.7 percent reported having had more than 1000 lifetime sexual partners. Paul Van de Ven et al., "A Comparative Demographic and Sexual Profile of Older Homosexually Active Men," Journal of Sex Research 34 (1997): 354."

There is an extremely low rate of sexual fidelity among homosexual men as compared to married heterosexuals. Among married females 85% reported sexual fidelity. Among married men, 75.5% reported sexual fidelity. Among homosexual males in their current relationship, 4.5% reported sexual fidelity. (Sources:Laumann, The Social Organization of Sexuality, 216; McWhirter and Mattison, The Male Couple: How Relationships Develop (1984):

Derp

He's not making a case. I'm guessing the point of this "debate" is, like any debate in a philosophy class, apply the theories they have learned to a topic. OP is just missing the point and will look like an idiot when he pulls out a bunch of statistics instead of talking about St Thomas Aquinas.

Last test

Here you go OP.

For reference:

>According to a survey of adults aged 20 to 59, women have an average of four sex partners during their lifetime; men have an average of seven.

THIS
THIS
THIS

Don't fuck it up.

Maybe its because people like you make there lives a living hell and treat them horribly? Retard

OP

THIS IS EXTREME DEGENERACY

youtube.com/watch?v=eE9JlONzrVU&feature=youtu.be
youtube.com/watch?v=eE9JlONzrVU&feature=youtu.be
youtube.com/watch?v=eE9JlONzrVU&feature=youtu.be

Yes, and also that by killing 0.85% of the population that is homosexual we can stop 33% of the total child molestation. So it's immoral to not exterminate all gays.

>there lives
>retard
Queers are so fucking hilariously stupid.

Pretty much all of those arguments can be summed up as

>WAAAAH, I HATE FREEDOM, STOP USING YOUR FREEDOM IN A WAY I DISLIKE

One of the good ones is increased health costs, but then that's countered by faggots dying faster, making it pretty null.

The greater incidence of predatory behaviour is pretty much the only worthwhile argument I see in there.

>Little Poland meets Germany for the first time.

Really weak argument again the reason the rate is so high is people like you are fucking insane. Lmao I'm going to be called a shill or some shit now.

No the reason is they are fucking psychos having 1000+ sex partners spreading their aids all over society and doing 33% of the molestation despite being only 0.85% of the population.

Not even Jews does this much damage to our societies. But then again, jews are the ones pushing for gay acceptance, so that's kinda wrong.

How's about this gold? And it's only ONE example of queers perverting children.

I was 18 when I was molested by a homo

>the reason homos are insane is because you're insane
hmmm

Hahaha you think im gay? Friendo trust me I like tits and ass. But I have a gay friend so I know how bad it is.

And also being linked to mental disorders & having anti-social anger & attitudes.

>College debate Class
>Plans to use shocking anecdotal internet stories to win debate
>Tfw disgust and wonder

Fuck I forgot what their called, but that whole pic of the gay guys who purposely get/give aids usually in secret.

F

Kek

Word of advice, don't let him babysit your kid. Everr.

The one OP mentioned, bug chasers. You're an idiot.

>I SURE LOVE WOMEN AND THEIR BIG BOOBS AND MAKING THE SEX WITH THEM
>M-my friend is a homo though so that's why I understand our-- I mean THEIR plight

You've done a brace thing, OP, but enjoy not getting laid for the rest of your stay at University.

Yeah I'm aware of these studies but I'm also aware of studies that do not show the same findings. The Bell and Weinberg study you reference was done in the 1970's and they note themselves that it probably wasn't representative. You did read it, right?

And then we have things like this:
blog.okcupid.com/index.php/gay-sex-vs-straight-sex/

Which probably isn't also representative, and it is based on more self reporting just like your studies. Same median number of sexual partners as straight people, with 2% of gay men having an extremely large amount of sex (accounting for 23% of the total gay sex).

>Then we have a blog on okcupid, which is definitely just as valid, if not more so!

>Purpose of all biological life is spreading the individuals dna
Everything that prevents the individual from doing so, is plain wrong.

They are sure easy to spot. "Yeah guys I like the titties, like bags of sand n stuff."

>haha, me gay? Friendo. Amigo. Trust me. Bud. Trust me, i like tits bruh. Okeli dokeli? Trust me, i love man.... female ass bruv. My friend is gay, y'know? My testosterone is killing me right now, you feel brah?

Well it is. The studies were based on surveys. The okcupid thing was based on exactly the same thing. I think you overestimate how scientific psychology studies are.

>please do my homework for me

Why don't you do it?

>Well it is

Probably already posted but you could cite that gay men are like 300% more likely to get AIDS or whatever the forgure is and argue that they act as a vector for disease in part due to their increased promiscuity.

They aren't though, there's documentaries covering it. They celebrate it. They feel emancipated from fear and anxiety. They would prefer having promiscuous, dangerous sex over being HIV free. These people are completely insane perverts with no sense of restraint.

dayum those quints

Larger sample size too. You won't find anything better recently, and the old ones had large flaws too admitted by the authors.

Shit man, sorry I'm not hip woth the homo lingo.

Here's the pic OP

Well if we look at Europe, who has had a far more tolerable and welcoming acceptance of homosexuals for quite a while then the States, as well as being generally less prudish...

The suicide rates are nearly the same. Hence what ever is driving fags to off themselves is as largely influenced by social pressures that you have asserted.

R A R E S T
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HOLY FUCK

That was the point you retarded kraut

Philo into shit show...
Your teacher needs to be fired!

>REALLY IT'S ACTUALLY THE BEST EVER DONE SO PLEASE DON'T ARGUE WITH ME PLEASE

Start off by saying you're gay, use your feelings to shut down any arguments

"isn't* as largely influenced" is what I meant.

Sam Hyde spoke about homosexuality and absolutely shattered the narrative of homosexuals being the same as heterosexual except their sexuality.

These people are deranged

youtu.be/jjPQ_jVlEnQ

>the point of life is to reproduce
>homosexuality goes against that axiom
>therefore, homosexuality is against life

You're clearly incapable at retaining information, ergo you're an idiot.

So there is no value at all to mass data because you don't like site? Someone tell facebook, turns out their business model is based on a lie.

captured

Well said.

It is also pro molesting kids, and fucking them up too.

Funny, I was going to ask you the same question.

Firstly: Modern American colleges and universities do not encourage side-taking in the debate environment. All instructors are told and heavily encouraged to randomly select people to speak for either side due to the reasons you listed. This method also increases understanding and perspective-learning.

Secondly: College Philosophy classes don't have debates in their Intro forms, unless you're taking a higher-level Philosophy class, which at this point would deem you an utter retard. Why? You're committing the Hasty Generalization fallacy in postulating that "All Homosexuals are degenerate", and your evidence is only supportive of a Cherry-Picked argument.

You're either lying or stupid.

Homosexuality is immoral because it is not an act that can reproduce. Reproduction is taking responibility, voluntarily for the betterment of all people. Homosexuals are unable to be straight, and are born like that, is the official party stance with fags. Use that against them if they bring up "well what if i volunteer to reproduce?" then you can say "that sounds an awful lot like a choice to me faggot"

Ok faggots, go ahead and respond to this
>Protip: You can't

You walking into their trap, user. I respect you for it, but you are gonna get DESTROYED.
It doesn't matter what evidence you brig forward, what stats you pull up, or if your sources come directly from the top mental annalists in the world, you lost the instaint you chose to argue against. They will bury you with stupidity and everyone, even your teacher, will cheer them on. You won't even know how it happened.

That being said, hit them hard with every bit of shocking evidence you can find. Scuicide stats, pedophile ratios, bugchaser forum snips, indoctination of children.

SUPERMEGABONUSPOINTS: Talk about the gay communist movement and how they have been running sexual predator rings in Australia and indoctrinating children. I belive they went by the name of "safeschools" or "unsafeschools"

And you're real good at gayspeak.

We all have our faults.

>Philosophy class
>Talking about one specific topic in a very vague subject

Rather than questioning the morality of homosexuality, question morality itself. Ask bigger questions; that's what philosophy's about.

>Well the best one is 55% of all homosexuals will once in their life molest a child during their lifetime.
Source please?

talk about
> aids reate in homosexuals
> suicide in homosexuals

I'd also like to add that bringing morality into a philosophical argument will get you nowhere. The entire idea of modern philosophy is to create sound arguments based of evidence and objective logic.

Why would you want to reproduce those faggot genetics though?

Just exterminate them before they molest kids & make them gay too is my philosophy. Tough love.

So half of /pol ?

>real good
I guess you aren't competent in English, either.

You think that's bad? In my sociology class my Jewish professor singled out our only white kid and openly ridiculed him on his privilege of never having to be talked down to because of his race.

>I'm not gay but my boyfriend is.

Good to know user.

I have issue with your studies ue to where they are posted are who made them. But they have problems admitted by their authors. What I posted is of course also far from ideal.

So what are we supposed to go off? No one is commissioning big studies of these things anymore.

all you need right here user youtube.com/watch?v=BMYBl2uzXEw

>Mention how the normalization of gayness has tainted male bonding and relationships. "No homo" etc.
Never even thought of this.

>I have issue with your studies ue to where they are posted are who made them
Hey, good job buddy. That was almost coherent English.

Try it again but take the dick out of your mouth this time.

#banassaultbullies

>96% of all child molesters are male.
>1/3 molestation victims are boys.
>1-3% of the entire US population is homosexual.

Based on these stats, the BEST CASE SCENARIO molestation rate is 55%.

The real number is 0.85 are male homosexuals, so the % is way higher.

Keep also in mind these are just the KNOWN, actually reported molestation making the % even higher.

Keep in mind the amount of different kids being molested is somewhere between 1-1.2 different children per molester, making the % somewhat lower.

This.

I believe you, but I would like sources so I can use these arguments myself.

Rip

also, use the patrice o'neal approach.

youtube.com/watch?v=dtOk1pzvg6g

he equates homosexuality with a fetish. 'why is being gay special and beautiful but tying a bitch up and peeing on her is a fetish?'

youtube.com/watch?v=Tt19Vp9uBiQ

but seriously watch this, it's only two minutes long.

obama getting BTFO by pure logic

youtube.com/watch?v=BMYBl2uzXEw

Fuck, never thought of that before. Genius.

Dont do it. Your best route is to be the fall guy, intentionally lose the debate so you dont get ostracized.

I got them from Sam Hyde, search it up im sure you'll find the individual stats.

Im not saying force them to reproduce, merely suggesting how to dismantle the argument that being gay is moral. If it is not voluntary service or contribution for the betterment of all, then it is immoral and not worthy of rights.

please listen to this kangaroo OP

this is godlike

jesus christ why haven't I heard of this guy before

This has nothing to do with homosexuality

Sexuality itself isn't a moral issue - most gays just want to fit in to normal society by keeping their mouths shut.

Your only argument IMO is that religious texts are a guide to good health (ie no pork) and therefore homosexuality is a sin because anal causes diseases and digestional problems. But then of course people will make fun of you for caring about religious texts.

There is nothing actually wrong with being attracted to the same sex.

If OP googles these he'll find loads of sources btw. Good ideas.

Make it about the degenerative behaviour, I personally couldn't give a fuck where someone sticks there dick most of the time but parading the streets in gimp suits with dildos stuck all over themselves is pathetic child like look at me behaviour, if they made it more about their relationships and not about just being a faggot for the sake of fitting in with a group of misfits of society they would get much further.

Just tell them that it lowered the likelihood of transmitting genetic material/procreating, and is dysgenic by its very nature. We are a dimorphic species that perpetuates itself theough the male and the female.

From a genetic standpoint there is no right or wrong, only those who reproduce and those who don't.

If you're still here, here's a podcast episide that's just 24/7 fact dumping

radio.therightstuff.biz/2016/06/18/darwin-digest-episode-16-high-risk-behaviours/

Good luck user

Just play this for them -- and, if they have a problem with it, call them racist colonialist fascists.

"Gay Eat Da Poo Poo"

youtube.com/watch?v=euXQbZDwV0w

Morality is borne out of voluntary sacrifice, in this case reproduction. So if they arent able to reproduce because muh nature made me like this, then they dont have the right to reproduce. All rights are born of morality, and can only be maintained as rights as far as you are personally willing to ensure it. Now if being gay is a choice, this goes against everything the LBGT groups have been pushing, this changes it to a much harder form of immorality. So which is it?

because jews

Tell the story about how Homosexuality got removed from the DSM:

conservativecolloquium.wordpress.com/2007/10/01/homosexual-activists-intimidate-american-psychiatric-association-into-removing-homosexuality-from-list-of-disorders/

Tell them how domestic terrorist intimidated and harassed APA board members, threatened to kill them.

>a group of 30 militants broke into a meeting of the American Psychiatric Association in Washington, where they turned the staid proceedings into near chaos for twenty minutes.

Only 32% of the APA voted to remove Homosexuality from the DSM, but they removed it anyway to keep them from attacking their members and disrupting their meetings.

You will be immediately branded a bigot, homophobe, etc.

Your only chance is point out how homosexuality is not accepted in Islam and countet-attack with accusations of islamophobia.

All in all as it was pointed earlier, you fucked yourself.

It may be true that homosexuality acceptance is being pushed by rich Jews but all the points he made about homosexuals can be made about straight people too.
He clearly has never made a gay individual.

I'm pretty sure I've seen this image being debunked several times.

Why are you queers so transparent when you're serving your own interests? The lies are just so easily spotted.

OP LISTEN TO ME

I ACTUALLY HAVE A PHILOSPHY DEGREE

THE ARGUMENTS HERE ARE SHIT.

Anything that argues for public degeneracy, std rates, or the stupid "muh meaning of life is to reproduce" will get picked apart.

The angle you need to go with (and you can add the child molestation and std stuff after) is framing our acceptance of homosexuality as a social reluctance to treat symptoms of early childhood trauma.

Fact: having been molested increases your chances of becoming a homosexual tenfold. The fact that this act increases the probability so strongly correlates with the idea that there is a generic propensity towards homosexuality BUT it only manifests because of social interaction. The fact that single mother families increase these odds further bolsters the argument that it is a symptom of childhood trauma. People like to trot out the toddlers that made the GI Joes kiss, but these "organic" homosexuals are a very rare minority. Ever wonder why every homosexual complains that their dad beat them or they were bullied or they were tormented by their siblings? People will say that progressively younger siblings increase the likelihood of homosexuality because of some unfounded "hormones" claim, but fail to mention that being a child with more siblings and especially older ones increases the family's likelyhood to be poor, to have no father or step fathers, and for the youngest to be tormented/molested by older siblings or family friends/babysitters.

Make a solid framework for homosexuality to be externally caused by trauma, and guilt the liberals into thinking they are ignoring a self destructive symptom of it for their own social virtue signaling.

>Imagine how many that doesn't get reported.

wow this has possibilities

>imagine how many UFO abductions...
>imagine how many Cred Forums posters...
>imagine how many elf sightings...

it reels the mind
the Fredo is strong with this one

"Tolerance" means nothing to a 7-year old who's the one homo in a class of 20 straight kids.
>Why are you listening that music that my sister likes?
>Why don't you like soccer? The rest of the boys do
etc

>UFO abductions and elf-sightings are the same as unreported child rape
Damn... So this is the power of faggots...

do it user i believe in you,stay calm and always find flaws in you opponents arguments
Make these degenerates-lovers feel like shit,you will maybe be a social outcast,but you will doing God's work user,DO IT

Do you even remember being 7 years old? Everyone gives everyone shit at that age because kids don't have a filter.

>ethnic groups
>66% african

You dumbasses, a large majority of men who have molested boys identify as heterosexual. They are not sexually attracted to the male child, they fetishise the act of dominance and the destruction of the child's naivety.

- higher morbidity of MST/hepatitis/drug use/substance abuse
- higher level of domestic abuse and rape among homosexual couples than heterosexual one

You can use that as arguments that they are mentally ill people.

Consequentialist morality:

Higher rate of STD
STD superbugs due to promiscuity
Poor parents (even worse than single parents, in terms of child wellbeing)
High rate of mental illness
High rate of suicide

Etc.

You can't use stuff as bugs chasers unless you have statistics than back up a claim proving its common or at least that a signifcant part of the community engages in it.

Anything else is easily countered.

>dumbasses

Proxy detected.

>philosophy

Okay faggot, take the socrates route.

>homosexuality and morality
>morality is equivenlant to jusitce in th sense that its definition is carried from person to person
>while some think homosexuality is unmoral, others think its moral.
>so lets examine it further at the beginning
>homosexuality used to be a hidden thing, only recently did it become a more acceptable fad so one could argue that homosexuality is imoral as our original morals(the majority of people) agreed it was a bad thing.


Currently in psychology rn but i can help more in a bit OP. If you cant get an idea from that^^ then youre fucked

This is very interesting

>our acceptance of homosexuality as a social reluctance to treat symptoms of early childhood trauma
Why would we be so reluctant? Too much effort? Too much heartbreak?

This may be the best way, but its not about morality anymore.

This is easily breakable, all those dangers apply for heterosexuals too and could be avoided by more monogamous homosexual relationships.

You must establish some sort of objective morality, otherwise the whole question is meaningless.

I would use some of those:
>claim its white privilege and its insulting to some other cultures. Liberals would destroy you for using christian religious argument or natural law, but they may not dare to oppose minority perspective and be called racist. Can go full savage and claim being part mudslie.

>turn argument around, where you ask them, why homosex and supporting it is moral and being against it bad, then destroy them with nihilism and no objective morality meme

If you sexually molest a boy you are by definition a homosexual.

I don't give a fuck if he identifies as the twin towers, he's still a gay faggot.

>Fact. A child needs a male and a female figure in a family, while growing up, to grow up properly.
But this is false.
Children raised by gay couples are not far behind the average child raised by straight couples, sometimes ahead.
And mostly far above children raised by single parents.

onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/1467-9450.00302/abstract
cdp.sagepub.com/content/15/5/241.short
humrep.oxfordjournals.org/content/25/1/150.short
psycnet.apa.org/psycinfo/2010-13930-001

But if you keep repeating the same lie long enough, it becomes "true"!

and many more in this thread..

Here's a juicy red pill for you:
Maybe we do have a large percentage of sufferers of mental health issues.
Maybe it is because of "stigma".
But are we gay *because* of these mental issues? Hell fucking no.

We struggle with mental health issues because we are attracted to the same sex. Masculinity.
Yet, masculine men, by the very definition, do not want us, because they are attracted to women.

So we look to the other gays. The other gays are faggots. It's not a case of
>Hey bruh let's drink beer that makes me masculine
It's in their eyes, in their voice, in the way they walk.

We cannot have the real men. We are stuck with gay little faggots, when all we want is to be loved by the straight men. Gays never admit this. But we are NEVER satisfied with fucking other gay men.

This is why we're depressed - the men we are truly, TRULY attracted to don't even look at us. There's an emptiness that pervades.

I fucking hate you faggots more than you can even hate yourselves. You're disgusting down to the core.

i would kick that dog in the fucking head if i was walking down the street with my kid and saw this.

How common is child molestation though? You can't infer that 55% of homosexuals are kiddy fiddlers without giving this info. All you can say is that homos are massively over represented among them.

mention that story where someone put some acidic liquid into the lube dispenser of a gay night club.


well yeah lube dispenser in a nightclub.
#justgaythings

Look at Netherlands. Absolute gay acceptance. Even pedophile acceptance. Still exact same mental disorder rate linked to homosexuality, and same suicide rate. Weird huh?

Children have to learn to be tolerant of a freak show.

you may want to put a disclaimer on your slides that you're just doing it for the sake of debate

you know, so you don't get thrown out after

This can't be real.

.

That's like. The nicest possible way to put it.

0.85% of the population that are homosexuals, does 33% of the total child molestation in the US, should tell you what you need to know.

Massively over represented doesn't really cut it.

whats the proposition?
is homosexuality immoral?

Here's another for you.

>tolerant of a freak show
>there is a fully grown adult getting off on a kid and nobody deign it fit to remove the child and arrest the degenerate fuck for child abuse

Pedolove when?

What kind of parent brings there kids to an event like this?
Why are these events not held in private?

It's funny because i remember when i was a kid, and i watched "The Amazing Atheist" talk about how absurd it was, laughing at the people saying that legalizing homosexuality was eventually gonna lead to legalization of pedophilia, and I totally agreed with him, and could not understand how stupid those people were.

And now it's literally happening.

...

but there's nothing wrong with homos
plus they will get u to jail and you will be forcibly gay by niggos regardless so do not

Isn't gay adoption wonderful?

As if the black community isn't dysfunctional enough...

You are fucking retarded sorry to say.
It could be that there are 3 molestation victims alltogether.
That would mean ONE would be a boy, who has a 98% chance that ONE male, MAYBE gay molested him.
That would make ONE asshole for about 9 million gay people.

As you can see without a number of victims your statistics make zero sense.
gr8b8 tho

Also this is not to mention that if two guys get caught having sex at 15, or a 15 year old has sex with a 16 year old that'll be represented in the same way in your statistics as if a 50 year old fucked a 2 year old.

Well men are massively over represented in theft and violent crimes. Is that good enough to warrant hatred against men in general?

Have you mistaken homosexuality for the public degeneracy of your pic related? Or do you intend to argue that homosexuality as a whole is immoral?

"63,000 children a year were victims of sexual abuse."

It's not 90% of Men doing crime, if it was i would say yeah, you should assume men are criminals.

Don't know anything about the stats indicated, but most gays were molested and abused themselves, and it is common knowledge that a child victim of a sex offender has a greater risk of molesting children when he grows up.

And theft & violence is not really the same as fucking up a kid for life because you're a socially angered hyper sexual faggot with mental disorders.

...

>morality of homosexuality
>homosexuality
>sexuality
>sex

Sex is the key indicator here. Making a public display of how you like to entertain your genitals is immoral. There's no fair argument against gay sex in private, unless you want to go full Deus Vult about the whole affair.

Good luck.

...

"63,000 children a year were victims of sexual abuse."

This was meant for you, sorry.

And to imagine he's a fucking poofter now

Well someone could say that the constitution was made under some moral lines that are inherent to the west.

"We the people...". means two things from a constitutional viewpoint on degeneracy.
The only degeneracy thats allowed is 1) the degeneracy of the time of your constitution, wich also means that 2) to agreed upon the CURRENT YEAR degeneracy a new constitution must be made, and thus for that constitution every citizen must be OK with CURRENT YEAR degeneracy, otherwise this hipotetical MAGIC PAPER OF CURRENT YEAR has no legitimacy.

After doing this whole broken english mental gymnastics, there is no way the constitution allows further degeneracy than the one that was valid (tolerated) at the time.

Therefore, a highly vocal minority about gay rights has not superior moral stand point from the begining and any legal claim supporting gay actions is pure straight positivism wich you could just counter with "well if the law said WAY OVERPROPORTION FALSE EQUIVALENCY you would say its ok????"

You can also throw nazis gassed jews because their law say they could.

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>Normalization of behaviours
You could just spend a whole day talking about this without even reading a book on the subject. You know the drill.
Thing is bad, we tell people it's bad, some degenerate judge says it's kynda ok, we have law, we have to tolerate the bad.
Then again, slippery slope and false equivalency are your friends.

---
Then throw shitloads of data/pools/ "why we force drug addicts to rehab, but we let people cut themselves" / hard facts/ suicide rates/ etc..

>I'm openly anti-gay and even people with gay family members still consider me a friend.
"THAT friend"

okay let's count then
21000 are male
-let's assume all of them were molested by males. (it's less than that)
-let's further assume that all of them were actually children and it wasn't just the retarded US consent laws fucking over people like they tend to. (actually probably a lot less than that, because there are a shitton of statutory rape cases where consent was given, but the laws says you can't so your partner gets a suspended sentence)
-let's also assume that each of those people were molested by a different guys (actually a lot probably encountered the same person)
-let's also assume that every one of those assholes was actually gay (as someone else mentioned the majority is actually NOT gay)
So that would leave us with 21000 assholes (worst case. it's a fraction of that if we don't assume the things above).
For about 9000000 homosexuals.
That would mean 0.2% of homosexuals are responsible.
Worst case.
So no, fuck off, you were off by a factor of 275.

A) that picture is dumb, because yes. Yes that's true. Gender roles are mostly a social construct. SEX roles are not a social construct, but gender is.
B) that does not enter into it. I have not been molested, nor did i molest anyone, and i wish i was. How's that for a statistical anomaly.

>Freedom is an excuse to indulge and celebrate harmful behavior.
Kys

>One of the good ones is increased health costs, but then that's countered by faggots dying faster, making it pretty null.

Due to the natre of medicina advancements we are slowly making faggots live longer, albeit more dreadful lives. If there has ever been any counter of expenses by their short life it wont be there for long.

The purpose of life is reproducing... in animals. Because their life is fucking pointless. They only basically survive unyil they can create offspring, and when they die nothing is left behind. Like african niggers, and thats why their civilizations hadnt evolved in thousands of years.
The purpose of human life is to promote humanity to advance in any way. If your only purpose is to have offspring then... dont worry. In your 8h daily job you will be helping scientists and inventors too. Baking their bread. Harvesting their food. Serving cups at the bars they go to relax. Indirectly, you want it or not, you are favoring humanity advabce by helping them, in any way possible.
I, personally, dont care if someone likes to even be fucking penetrated by dogs in his free time if that person is useful to society in any way.

First, you should take the view that legality and morality are separate. In other words, we as a society may bestow equal rights to gay people even though this may be immoral (don't define for now what moral is). This should take the air out of the argument that because something is immoral, then something must be legislated against and also prevent the argument that you want to take political and civil rights away from gay people. Simply say "We're here to discuss whether homosexuality is immoral, not illegal. I'm willing to allow the legality of it, but counter the morality of it."

If people will ask why you don't make the jump from immoral to illegal, you can answer that you're taking the (classical) liberal approach of viewing laws as protecting individual freedom and achieving an equilibrium in society in a realist (international relations) sort of fashion (multiple individuals with competing interests who may exercise violence against one another in order to achieve their goals may agree on a minimum legal framework to protect themselves). You would then distinguish your position from an Aristotelian view of politics as realization of the common good and state that because law and morality are separate you don't infer political consequences from moral statements.

Second, you will begin by arguing that something can be immoral even when the exercise of it does not hurt anyone and is performed in a consensual manner (here again you will distinguish morality from legality because something MAY be illegal if it hurts someone and/or is not consensual - ceteris paribus). The morality of it flows from not respecting a moral principle. For example, you can argue that lying to oneself although it doesn't hurt anyone (including you - lies you tell to yourself may help you live an easier life) is immoral because it prevents you from realizing the maxim you should tell no lies (including to yourself).

Maybe play the sex outside of reproductive purposes is immoral


Then talk about how homos are more likely to be mentally ill and more prone to sexually abuse minors