At what age did you grow out of libertardianism and became a nationalist?

At what age did you grow out of libertardianism and became a nationalist?

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>implying I can't be both

America was built off of freedom, libertarianism is about freedom

1995

woah

I'm a bit of both. I'm a civic nationalist.

Is that Sasha Grey?

Got the other pic? I remember there being another.

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>me
>supporting a government that shills my cash out to niggers
ahahah good one op

when I saw dem thighs

Once i got laid

12 because im not retarded

25 ish now 45

hello mister

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Nationalism has nothing to do with supporting the government.

Even in my blue pill Paulite days, I was a natty alpha with some pretty hardline nationalist preferences. Shit like, basic immigration laws, protected boarders, busting up corporatist trade policy, following the rule of law. Some may even have called me literally Hitler.

>hes not a nationalist libertarian

shit tier thighs m8

But in a nationalist state niggers would be shilling out cash to you

I actually went from Nazi LARPer to libertarian. I still think niggers and kikes are scum, though.

Fool! I was always a nationalist!

those are literally some of the worst thighs I've ever seen, looks like she has dwarfism

your facial recognition software is fucked up

op girl is way better

She is perfect need more

Ew looks retarded

I'm still a libertarian. Libertarianism is about the individual having the freedom to live life. The best way to put it is think about the opposite of libertarianism, which is authoritarianism. Yeah no thanks I don't want a corrupt gov trying to tell me how to live my life or what to think.

what a post

good man

>being low test betas

sad!

I'm a libertarian nationalist.

so its her, right?

20

Of course not

14

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>Implying that national liberalism isn't the answer.

never
i was born and raised this way

When I first saged

WE WUZ ROMANS N SHEIT

I dunno man the thighs are putting me off. I can't quite place it.

her legs are nice, must have cost a lot of work and all, but she went over the top, need to increase mass elsewhere or lower those legs a bit, also posture

Is...is this meme magic?

she looks like an action figure, hip-waste-thigh ratio is completely out of whack

you gotta pay someone to enforce your laws. i can't BE a nationalist if in real life i can't be a nationalist.

I left lolbertarianism when I realized that the state has the duty and obligation to prevent 4 year old kids from taking hormones and mutilating their genitals

nigger, do you suffer from prosopagnosia?

I was never a libertardian, centrist, or Leftist, nor was I ever Cucknadian or yuropoor, so I was always nationalist.

Libertardianism = free trade = open borders.

22, once I had left uni and moved into the real world where it was necessary to make a living. Boy, what a wake up call.

Libertarianism and nationalism is incompatible, nationalism needs watertight borders and state regulation of culture and morality (which triggers libertardians) or else you become Germanistan and rogue (((elements))) stage a hostile takeover of key instutions such as education and the media.

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Holy shit.

>44
Confirmed

I'm 20 now and I would say I'm at the flipping point. I'm a right winged nationalist but still pretty liberal orientated on economical level.

>Libertardianism = free trade = open borders.
You are a fucking moron.

What does that even mean? Are you from Walloon and are you afraid to lose your gibs?

near 17

Huh...? Weird...

Praise Kek!

>Libertardianism = free trade = open borders.

No, no open borders, see Brexit. Free trade is fine.

nationalism is not exlusive to libertanism.

Liberal in the sense of the classical and neoclassical economic schools

This isn't my country so fuck nationalism.

Nationalism is a step in the right direction but it's not the true destiny of Western Civilization.

save yourself and leave while you can

At around 18-19 I went from dude weed libertarian to a meme nationalist for a couple of years up until I was 23 when I actually began to research nationalism as an ideology as well as the history of Europe (I'm English, visiting family atm).

Yeah, bud, the thing is language changes meaning over time. Liberal these days doesn't mean liberal from 100 years ago, where it meant government interference and regulations on how businesses should act were seen as bad.

Could someone explain to me in greater detail how Traditionalism would work in today's society? Specifically in say, the United States.

14. I red the Quran and was so disgusted by how everyone was downplaying how this people literally followed the most evil and retarded cult one could imagine.

Free trade = free movement of labor = open borders. You libertardians are as vapid as fedoras, and no wonder since you tend to be fedoras.

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15

15

like early 20s

I was conservative until around 19-21. I started getting involved in politics when I realized how stupid our gun laws are. I was a libertarian until 25 and now at 26 I am a nationalist.

My Fiancee is basically a lite sjw but when I say things she ends up agreeing. I've changed her and she hates to admit it.

I'm a nationalist libertarian. I'm also an American, freedom is in my blood, it's fruity Europeans who always need to be told what to do like the cucks they are.

It's not a destiny, it's a journey. What you call tradition, the agrarian tribes before them called innovation, as did the hunter gatherers before them.

Nations are a rather recent innovation, a glorious innovation humbling all the traditions which came before them and still destroying all that kikes try to replace it with.

I'll just leave this here

youtube.com/watch?v=RbkGAlqxFzQ

An army needs leaders, if you try to go to war without them even the kikes will beat you.

When I turned 15.

Whatever my last two digits are

I never said they didn't, it's a different institution we don't need the entirety of society run like an army though.

>At what age did you grow out of libertardianism and became a nationalist?

I always was nationalistic, but saw the truth about race after dating a Cree Indian woman.

All the racial stereotypes are true about Indians.
Violent. Drunk. Dysfunctional. etc.

Nice tits though.

Free trade is not equal to open borders. Read Hoppe "the case for free trade and restricted immigration".

TL;DR: goods can't Cross borders uninvited, because they have no free will. Shitskins do. And they do so by Walking on public land, which was prevented by the state from being homesteaded by an American, who would have just shot Pedro the trespasser.

this post will end in 3

at least i got dubs

ill tell you if you tell me who this is in the picture.

SHADILAY

Why would I be a nationalist in a nation full of niggers and people who shart in mart?

Libertarianism and nationalism are not mutually exclusive.

19. I was a socialist and came here and over a few months I started becoming more nationalist.
I'm still a socialist, but I think it should be for the good of the country and it's people and commie bullshit like open borders is retarded. If we are ever to achieve communism it'll have to come naturally, you can't force the world into freedom.
If there ever is a day where we can take care of all people equally and hurt no one then that will be good, but it's just not feasible in the present.

ill grow into nationalism when you tell me sauce on that

When I stopped acting like a victim because of my vagina and found a wonderful boyfriend.

It's going to be interesting to watch the Libertarian->nationalist->objectivist evolution happen.

15

I'm a constitutionalist

16

I grew out of being a libertarian after the military
shortly after, I grew out of being nationalistic

Libertarians are gay.

Natural order is where its at

so Australian economics or Keynesian economics?

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They aren't mutually exclusive.

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>Free trade = free movement of labor = open borders.

No it doesn't, post Brexit we will trade with Europe and the rest of the globe but will stop free movement, which only attracts dim-witted welfare scroungers/muslim trash anyway.

Watch EU free movement collapse in a few years as a result of Brexit, for which I proudly voted.

you do realize that whom you posted is in fact a libertarian.

also a lot of people here seem to be confused

libertartanism is a umbrella term, there are a lot of shades of libertarnism there is the dude weed ayy lmao shade and there is the nationalistic tone and probably a shitton more.

Yes they are you fucking mong

>open borders
>nationalism
Pick one faggot

strange

look at the shilling itt, both lefty/pol/ and natsoc/pol/ working together like brother arms in arms, makes you really think.

someone sumarize libertanianism for me pls

someone summarize libertanianism for me in an unbiased manner pls

libertanism is not anarchism, some libertarians might be pro open borders (especially the USA ones) some are not. americans seem to be the ones to have the biggest libertarian confusion. here in europe its the libertarian parties that want to keep the borders sane.

i went through a slight libertarian phase when i was like 24. then i realized it was gay and retarded.

A gaggle of retards sperging out

ya ya, I just don't want to be associated with lolbertirians like gary Johnson who want people to bake cakes for faggots at gunpoint.

I am in the transition period. I consider myself a classic liberal with nationalist tendencies. Maybe one day I will go full on red pill but I think the final step in embracing that is being a christian, which I am not.

Mid-late 20s

>libertarian
>nationalist
>mutually exclusive

its a umbrella term that can mean pratically anything as long as you say

Trump will help those rednecks I bet.

See

SHADILAY

SHOO
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Libertarians believe in limiting the state, most believe the only legitimate functions of the state are in the protection of private property, i.e. law enforcement, military, and courts. They generally advocate the austrian school of economics.

>It's going to be interesting to watch the Libertarian->nationalist->objectivist evolution happen.

That would be really fucking weird but I could see how that might happen when you consider the objectivist stances on immigration and foreign policy.

Uhh.

But that's not right. Open borders are not a necessity of libertarianism.

yeah never
liberalism is the only cure to ignorance, and faggotry

Right around my 30th birthday
Coincidentally it was like 4 months before Trump joined the race

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>35
>35

>It's a summerbabby living in a former colony confuses ethnocentrism and nationalism and then goes on to post a girl of clearly mixed ancestry in his post anyway episode
The only retard is you OP
also
>hurr durr libertardianism lol lmfao xD
not an argument

Kek works in mysterious ways...

What is this?

> No tits
> Big ass
Fuck off nigger lover.

Herpes

This. Reminder Ron Paul was a libertarian and he had borderline isolationist policies.

Around 18. Though it wasn't even the american right liberturdism but the leftist one.

i like the thighs

I am becoming more and more traditionalist/Facist with every changing day.

HIV

This tbqh

When I got shilled by /pol

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Grew out of libtardism when I was 7, became nationalist when I turned 15

>Implying the government won't let in millions of muslims anyway.
Idiot.

Back when Typhoid Barry was elected in 2008 (I didn't know much about Pisslam at the time, I was naive). I was 35 at the time and I quickly got tired of his race-baiting, Islam-cocksucking, spoiled-brat chip on his shoulder against white Americans. It showed me how arrogant, snobby, ungrateful and full of shit he and his followers are.

gib butts pls

just like my fellow here said, you should go to the bank and get yourself checked out. I hope you know a good optometrist or maybe even an eye doctor who works at a bank, so he can help you. Shitposting on a basket painting mongorian phpBB forum is one thing, but not being able to distinguish between one bank and another is really bad for your interest rates.

Run, you fool!

One more for you, bong

>national bolshevism
This is actually a great way to bring the far left to our side.

As the nationalist position becomes the obvious one for any thinking person, they're either going to:
>a.) double down because they're emotionally invested in communism/socialism
or
>b.) be maneuvered into a variation of socialism/communism that is compatible with nationalism, sparing their egos without forcing them to double down

Guys don't bash this poor guy. Better to join the right side late than never. It means the disease isn't terminal.

THICQUE

I haven't and wont because I'm not suffering from brain rot.

What is happening!?!

>I will never believe X
why so close minded user? stop being a bigot

the order of 3 and 4 is messed up, smells like kike propaganda to steer you away from militant ideology

FTFY

This. He' on our side, there's no problem, he has seen the light of glory.

Thank you God bless Merica and praise Jesus ok

Then we vote them out, try doing the same with EU parliament. Only a remainer would be this dumb, sorry you lost dumbass :^)

>her

~25

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sorry

I'm preparing for elections of the 18th of September. I told my friends that did not like Communists and will vote for the LDPR. (But! I will vote for the Communists, I want to save the world from hunger, war, Jews, and corruption).
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this. Libertarianism is an inherently fragile system and therefor is not open to everyone.
also property rights taken to their logical conclusion leads to nationalism.

>Denouncing fascism of any kind
>Being close minded

Nationalism and libertarianism are mutually exclusive.

>he wants to surrender his freedoms "for the children"

>I will vote communism to get rid of hunger war and corruption

>also property rights taken to their logical conclusion leads to nationalism.


can you elaborate on this

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>taking that piece of claptrap shyte seriously
specifically, in the fantasy world that pic is larping about, in the United States... the british monarchs would come over here from britian and, this time, actually win the war of 1812 version 2.0 and we would once again be part of the british empire serving a king in far away land w/o representation.

When Gary Johnson became a more realistic choice than Ron or Rand Paul, that's when I was totally done with libertarians.

The whole idea of open borders being a libertarian country's idea is retarded. America started out as a libertarian/classical liberal country, that yes, had strong borders. This new wave of thought is an argument from the anarchist side of the spectrum that says government is a corrupt institution that is not fit to rule us, so why should they determine which piece of land your freedoms begin and end at. I mean, I get it, but it's not practical at all. The only way a country not having border would work is if every country on earth was an anarchist country, or at least the neighboring countries that are on your continent.

Worry about that after the government is dismantled if you want to talk about borders being wrong. Until then, we have a country with definitive lines, just like your property lines.

Now can I be for small government and a strong national identity? Sure. That's early America for you right there. No entangling alliances and the bill of rights side by side.

I think libertarianism is the most misunderstood ideology on this board.

>you can't have nationalist libertarianism

You dense motherfucker.

And? Distribute the world's resources among all people in the same amount - meansto solve the problem of hunger, envy and Bank financial pyramids. Why war, if people are fed, clothed and have a roof over your head?

I didn't.

Grown out of fascism at 5.
Grown out of conservatism at 15.
Grown out of libertardism at 25.
Grown out of democracy at 35.

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It's strange that you say that because Johnson isn't libertarian.

>Libertarianism is an inherently fragile system
Only because it allows Marxists and other statists to manipulate the masses due to freedom of speech.

>also property rights taken to their logical conclusion leads to nationalism.
What exactly is the problem with this?

>Why war, if people are fed, clothed and have a roof over your head?
to get a bigger roof, fancier clothes and more luxurious food?
envy, lust and all the inherent vices of the inescapable animalistic side of humanity?

how naive are you, humans aren't 'good' by nature

>you have to be a fascist to be a nationalist
so you're not only a bigot, but ignorant too? wow, just... wow


nationalism is the ideology of peace

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> I will vote for the Communists
>I want to save the world from hunger, war, Jews, and corruption

>free trade = open borders

You're pretty fucking gay, Sweden,

this

fuck man thats weird

Yep, that's the ultimate problem with libertarianism. It's proven it can't organize people.

Yet an organized people is what we need. Whether society should be organized for war at all times isn't relevant, we have to go to war now. It's time for the force proven to be able to accomplish that.

We can get back to our petty bourgeois first world problems and discussions after the kikes subverting those discussions are evicted and the world is wise to their ways again.

SYKA, IDIOT BLYAD. Distribute the world's resources among all people in the same amount - meansto solve the problem of hunger, envy and Bank financial pyramids. Why war, if people are fed, clothed and have a roof over your head?

Not a libertarian, not a nationalist either.

However, I do prefer nationalism over libertarianism.

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From the Age of 13 I became aware at how blessed I was to live in the USA. I was never a libertarian but more of a less government kind of guy but realized you needed some oversight to prevent subversive kikes like Soros from going ape shit.

SHADILAY

Greed and envy is a Vice. Such people can be declared enemies of the people and shot. Or be sent to prison where they will cut wood and assemble the TV... - GG WP!

>using computer with parts made all around the world
>against free trade

its like you want the country to be a shit hole

You can't possibly be this retarded. Libertarianism doesn't require open borders.

this image had a 5th level called "hoppean libertarianism"
you change your mind or you are other fag hijacking user's work?

what are you even talking about? I think you've missed my point entirely tbhfam. Having free trade agreements, or rather, avoiding having protectionist tariff wars with other nations does not equal supporting completely open boarders. That was my point.

But you can't have completely free trade either tho. I know I don't want cheap, poison filled toothpaste coming in from china b/c they've beat the price of everyone else and put everyone else out of business.

Objectivist threads occasionally pop up here. There's the standard knee-jerk Jew garbage and a bunch of talking points from Slate. If any serious discussion starts and people start pointing out things like Rand opposing the US entering WW2, opposing desegregation, and denouncing the state of Israel as collectivist, the critics tend to get quiet. Objectivists now are probably the most vocal opponents to unrestricted immigration who are also capitalist, and Peikoff predicted long ago that EU multiculturalism would lead to a flood of Jihadists into Europe followed by a nationalist backlash.

They're an interesting bunch and probably make the best case for Western exceptionalism.

its... beautiful

I've seem prominent objectivists shilling for open borders too, like that guy who used to go on pjtv

You're right. Only this new establishment bootlick faggotry that gary johnson got swindled into pimping like a 2 dollar whore. He used to be a good guy not a good goy...

17. Started reading books about Adolf Hitlers life.

If you're talking about Yaron Brook, he's not for open borders. He advocates banning Muslim immigration, for example.
peikoff.com/2015/09/21/to-yb-what-do-you-think-about-the-immigration-crisis-in-europe/

There are objectivists who disagree, but in general the objectivist stance on immigration is to vet immigrants properly to ensure they are not criminals, terrorists, etc.

>Grown out of cuckoldism
>Never

>being a Lolbertarian at any point of your life
Kys

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When I got a job.

Ever since this election started I slowly went from very liberal to moderately conservative.

I'm about to turn 19

Here's the other pic just because I love you guys

Read pic related. It's a survey of Western philosophy and its impact on the history of the West. Where the likes of Jared Diamond might argue that Europe's exceptionalism came from mere happenstance, Peikoff argues that it came from specific philosophic ideas that promoted reason and human life.

He also predicted the Muslim invasion of Europe and the rise of nationalism in the U.S. It's a bit technical in some places, but it's a damned fascinating hypothesis that philosophy does more to guide the progress of human action than anything else.

muh dick

>being a tits guy

hello virgin

That bitch is a fat nigger though
Ass Always > tits but a real ass, not this blubber garbage tier nigger propaganda the Jews have been pushing

seems I was mistaken them, although you guys are probably one of the only libertarian (I know you hate this word sorry) subgroups who are ont shills for open borders

sure thing skinny fat virgin

>from being homesteaded by an American, who would have just shot Pedro the trespasser.
More reasons liberty>government management

I can second that.

It's just that over the course of this election, I've slowly realized that "liberals" are a bunch of self contradicting retards that wouldn't know true libertarian ideology if it sat on their face.

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Scar from an injury or burn? There's only one so I doubt its cutting scars or stretch marks.

What happens in the book next?

Also, to answer your question :

> 18

Nationalist Libertarianism exists though.

Low test cuckboi

like 15
I've always valued nationalism over globalism tho

>I'm okay with doing what the Jews tell me to do
Whatever you think is best for you user
Take your meme and fuck off to Cred Forums pinko

>The jews are telling you to be attracted to superior females with great legs and butts
>Yeas goy you should only want weak petite little loli asian cartoon girls who might die giving birth and pass their weak genes to your cuck son

kek

libertarianism and nationalism are not mutually exclusive.
>Libertardianism = free trade = open borders.
this is false and you are a faggot.

It really pains me to have to "correct the record" with you morons time after time but libertarianism DOES NOT mean open borders. You are taking a political ideas philosophy and applying it globaly. Which is just fucking silly. and stupid, really stupid.
Like really, really, fucking stupid.

You can apply the philosophy of libertarianism to a countries internal affairs while treating the outside world differently. Ron Paul, the libertarian that got libertarianism to be as popular as it is today campaigned on ramping up border security, it was one of his main campaign promises.

Again as I have said earlier in this post and in numerous threads on this shitty intellectually bankrupt board: libertarianism is not ancap nor is it globalism.

Stop taking a political philosophy and applying it globally. If democracy was applied globally it wouldnt work either to have chinese people in china exclusively with chinese citizenship voting for the american president. That is just ridiculous and it is why a political philosophy concerned with internal affairs stops at the border.

kike shills go into overdrive to bash libertarianism because it argues for smaller governement and they hate the idea of people being free.

Shadilay, shadilay, oh, oh.

Sweet, Sweet 14.

Around 19

libertarian nationalism are for people who know what need to be done but are too pussy to do it

I'm sort of both. I hate Gary Johnson and the libertarian party though. I also don't believe in the NAP and I am willing to infringe on people's rights if they act like dog shit.