Is colonialism /really/ the reason why Africa is so poor and behind the rest of the world in nearly every metric of...

Is colonialism /really/ the reason why Africa is so poor and behind the rest of the world in nearly every metric of humanity's progression?

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All colonialism did was temporarily try to raise subsaharan Africa out of the stone age.

why isn't India as fucked as Africa?

no, that's the fault of africans

come on. you guys all know why. you would not be here on Cred Forums if you really didn't know why.

Africa will enter the first world after China exterminates the Africans.

No. Colonialism brought Africa out of the stone age.

before that they were kangz n shiet moffuga bich shieeeet

No, there's much more to it than that. Tribalism is the main problem.

We don't really need to pretend colonialism was for their benefit...

No.
There are current african tribes that had the same time to come up with great stuff as europeans and they still haven't found a way to make fire.

It's because while Europe was warring and learning and honing themselves into the first world, Niggers literally dindu nuffin'

This will only be politically feasible after the West collapses under third world invasion.
So figure by the end of the 21st century Africa will be schwarzfrei and China will be exploiting the natural resources there to feed its economy.

>We don't really need to pretend colonialism was for their benefit..
In a way it was. It propelled them thousands of years into the future, but for some reason, they weren't ready. When we pulled out of Africa we should've just left them alone. No charities, no handouts, food, medicine, nothing but what we left them.

Colonialism is why the eastern part of the United States remains so undeveloped. The original thirteen American colonies were oppressed for so long they have never ever been able to recover.

Well it has to do with IQ, but I don't think the IQ is the only thing, Asians typically have high IQs but still live in reed huts and shit in holes in the ground. Climate + IQ+ religion is the only thing that makes sense.

The shit skins have horrible culture from centuries of horrible religious practices with no morals praying to fucking wooden masks and sun gods and shit. Add that with hot as climate and potato level IQs and you get a continent of a billion people that don't know how to read

the reason that africa is a terrible and shitty place is because the majority of africans are sub 90 IQ because of bad nigger genetics

its literally that simple

theres no need to complicate it more than that

>not niggers

it had a large part to do with it. Colonialism broke down functioning societies and they tried to bring the european model for settled civilization with them, which didn't work in Africa. By this I mean urbanizing around river systems, which in Africa are disease rich.

Africa is the fastest industrialising region in the world right now. Partly because it has the most improvement make, but also because there's been a lot of investment there. But it's booming in some areas

Algerian, Vietnam or China all endured the same or even worse than any African country and they are all better off than most African countries.
Also, without Europeans Africans would literally be in the stone age, literally as they never developed shit.

I see it pushed as the mail reason Africa is so behind the rest of the world, but I'm wondering if that is really true. Colonialism has existed all over the world, and while its not a particularly good thing, these places outside of Africa don't seem to be as far behind.

When you say tribalism is the problem, do you mean the constant genocides, corrupt governments, etc?

I think I'm uninformed on this, but what does climate have to do with literacy?

No, colonialism helped the niggers. Now they kicked out the whites and are back to their low IQ ways.

No, post-colonialism was. What caused Africa's downfall was the seemingly random dividing of the nations of Africa, and the subsequent handing-down of abstract power structures (that Africans couldn't fully understand) that were used as a means of crushing oppression and war.

It would have honestly been better had the colonists not made any preparations before leaving, simply evaporated their colonies and left forever, but they instead handed down the reigns of great power to those undeserving Africans who then ruined the entire continent in their lust for violence, wealth and power.

No, Africa is poor because of niggers.

>functioning societies
I guess you could call cannibal tribes functioning, but calling them societies is a bit a stretch.

yea definitely

same thing in Asia, just look at Hong Kong

Singapore is even worse

it's a lot lower than that

It wasnt, but they could have easily used the residue to lift themselves up to our level.

Rwanda was pretty advanced before the genocide and then that happened and everything went to shit again.
Congo just left the Belgium infrastructure decay and rot to the point it can no longer be used.

Best thing that could happen to Africa is some really severe flue virus killing everybody, preferably one that we can easily survive due to hygiene / medical care in the west but cant prevent there.

Fucking disgusting. We really should be ashamed of ourselves.

>We don't really need to pretend colonialism was for their benefit...

In many ways it was a genuine humanist endeavor. If not, why would we have bothered building a public infrastructure, running schools and hospitals and enforcing peace ?

Some companies made a huge profit from access to cheap resources but running colonies was a net loss for the colonizing nations.

It failed but it doesn't mean the people involved were all insincere in their efforts to civilize those parts of the world.

yeah i knew it was loser but couldnt remember the exact number so just said 90 since a sub 90 iq is typically where societies start to break down

This.
What a shithole.

>leaf
>not shitposting

>It would have honestly been better had the colonists not made any preparations before leaving, simply evaporated their colonies and left forever, but they instead handed down the reigns of great power to those undeserving Africans who then ruined the entire continent in their lust for violence, wealth and power.

I'd never thought about it that way - but that would only have worked if the existing white communities had also left, which many didn't.

Africa is a shithole for the same reason Europe is a shithole.
All the good people came here. The dregs were left behind.

>Colonialism has existed all over the world, and while its not a particularly good thing, these places outside of Africa don't seem to be as far behind.

Most of Europe was colonized by Romans, it came at a cost but also with its benefits. Check out the video Stefan did on the Roman Empire, it's a good one.

youtube.com/watch?v=qh7rdCYCQ_U

> A FUCKING LEAF
That is 100% right. The east is great if you're white. It's the blacks that bring us down in every aspect. And by that I mean, they're fat, they're poor, and they're too dumb to be educated. Thus all stereotypes about the south are because of negroes.

That was a good nigger. He knew the failings of his race, and was on the right side of their bell curve. I feel bad for him. to be reasonably intelligent and see the foolishness of your own race and be unable to do anything about it. I don't think I saw him try to make excuses for them either. I hope he's doing well, though I wouldn't be surprised to hear he'd been robbed and killed for his watch.

>Guilty westerners give food aid to Africans
>African farmers' prices are undercut and they can't compete
>Cannot produce beyond subsistence level
>Food production falls and reliance on foreign aid increases
>Westerners become even more guilty and foreign aid continues

Don't get me started on the EU CAP

>Greeks sub-100
What the fuck? Indigenous Greeks would not be sub-100, maybe Turk rape baby Greeks, but the legitimate descendants of Ancient Greeks should be at least 100.

Indigenous greeks aren't really descendants of the ancient greeks.

Not really. Africa is huge. As a result, it never had the same sorts of population pressures seen in places like Western Europe, China and the Middle East.

If people didn't want to be part of an empire they could escape into fertile open land beyond their borders.

An area with a similar development was Russia. Peasants constantly escaped into the vast Russian wilderness.

As a result both areas developed repressive policies designed to keep people on the land. Russians became Serfs, Africans Slaves.

The low population density was exacerbated by outflows. In the case of Africa slaves were traded with Europeans who arrived on the coast or ran off to create new tribes in elsewhere. In the case of Russia serfs were stolen by Turkic raiders or ran away into the wilderness.

In either case the societies developed slowly due to the constraints of distance and relatively low population density.

Russia was able to overcome many of its limitations though use of Western European technology and institutions. By contrast Africans never mastered the technology of Western Europe.

the entire american continent was colonized as well and it ain't a 8th world shithole.

>Implying it's not intetional

Eddy was a good lad, he had pretty good bantz too. I hope he did alright.

whatever you reckon m8. they had their own cultures and traditions and their societies worked and were sustainable.

Africa is completely different then the rest of the world when it comes to the diseases that it has.
Africa can't form large cities like the rest of the world because of how fast disease rapes them.
Prior to colonization Africans lived in small nomadic tribes that wouldn't allow disease to run straight through them.

So regardless if colonization ever happened to them they'd be left behind because they can't form the cizilation other continents allow.

because indians aren't niggers?

Those huts are pretty cool tho.
Reminds me of that black mage village in FF9

The history of man is littered with niches being broken,

>homo sapiens outgrow then exterminate neaderthal specifically in eurasia
>hard conditions lead to a new niche, farming an specialisation
>abundance leads to warfare which leads to politics and religion
>religion leads to science, science leads to abudance, then warfare et al

Meanwhile being able to gorge yourself on foraging and slow meaty wildlife leads to not very much. Why they didn't go the way of neaderthal IS colonialism.

No they are Aryan.

india was actually a country that was made worse off because of colonialism.

africa actually benefited hugely, depending on how you perceive it. if you think "development" is always a good thing or not.

This is a good post Uncle Sam,usually burgers flood the board with shitposts.This is laconic and supported by empirical evidence. I wish that Trump makes your country great again,you deserve it.

The reason is niggers, OP

God, you Idiot

In a nutshell no, some of it really wasn't handled well and there were fairly good aspects of it but you'll never hear that in the media, just white guilt
>Even though the chinks are promptly sucking Africa dry
>Key fact; Africans are blind stupid and corrupt

As long as a society doesn't go extinct, it can be considered "sustainable". Homo erectus was sustainable for a long time.

Doesn't mean that they weren't ape-tier.

Seeing as a vocal part of Congo wants the Belgians to return I'd say no

As an African, let me tell you that European colonialism had a positive effect on the continent as a whole. Without it we would be in a Sharia ruled theocracy.

My great grandfather arrived in Rhodesia during a time when much of the country was still wild. When he arrived, the local african tribes were still butchering and enslaving each other, as well as die young and/or contract a plethora of diseases.

And then the white people helped settle disputes between tribes, gave people medicine, gave many of them electricity, food became more plentiful, people were given an education etc.

What destroyed Africa was the backstabbing and treachery of European leftists, particularly the British, as well as the Russians and Chinese flooding the continent with cheap weapons.

amazon.com/History-Warfare-John-Keegan/dp/0679730826
It seems like you could profit from a slice of Keegan. Its a good read and it will give you a good insight into the anthropology of war.

>We don't really need to pretend colonialism was for their benefit...

Clearly someone is unfamiliar with the white man's burden.

Is this from 'We Come as Friends?'

I guess I never thought about the geographical constraints the country has. Pretty interesting.

Now that Africa does have a few areas flourishing and thriving, such as Nigeria and all its oil money, will we see them expand and alleviate some of these problems?

>Is this from 'We Come as Friends?'

It's from "Empire of Dust", a pretty good documentary.

youtube.com/watch?v=A0C4_88ub_M

Niggeria is literally a failed state, all the oil money is funneled in the offshore bank accounts of whoever runs the government and the north is being overrun by Islamic rebels. To top that off, they're going to add hundreds of millions to their population in the coming decade.

Niggeria has no future.

>Ireland gets planted and has its people genocided by the famine and Cromwell
>Its doing fine today
>Africa gets lifted up technologically and gets a few people enslaved
>Its a massive shithole today
Really makes you think

>To top that off, they're going to add hundreds of millions to their population in the coming decade

And here is the problem in a nutshell. Their demographic growth is out of control, not even full-on genocide can make a dent in that curve.

Thanks! I'm watching We Come as Friends now and large part of it is about the Chinese in Africa.

Isn't it by far the wealthiest African country? Does that mean Africa as a whole is either totally fucked, or going to basically be industrially annexed by China?

Work ethic. In Africa people don't work more than they need and don't dedicate too much time to material progress, it used to be the same in China, it was seen as immoral to talk about material status and progress in the old China. The same thing exists kind of in Russia, but they are also slaves to the neo-Golden Horde in Moscow

Why are the places that got colonized universally nicer than the places that didn't?

>What destroyed Africa was the backstabbing and treachery of European leftists
What destroyed Africa was Africans and their inherent behavior. They choose to put gasoline filled tires around people and then light them on fire because they still believe in "Ju-ju" and they believe that eating Albinos gives them special powers. This is not a result of European influence.

I'm calling bullshit on that scale.

if they get more technologically advanced and start having functional economies, that boom will start tailing off.

but if they don't advance and keep getting western-level medical care for free, the boom will be much worse.

>Isn't it by far the wealthiest African country?
It has the highest total GDP, but that doesn't mean much. Even GDP/capita doesn't mean much in the cesspit which is Africa. Take Equatorial Guinea for instance. Its gdp/capita is $30 000, which is roughly the same as Spain or the Czech republic. Yet 60% of its population lives below the international poverty line. That's because niggers run the show.

Probably not.

I remember a Russian user on Cred Forums talking about how the Soviet industrialization schemes only reached the cities in Siberia but never penetrated the countryside. And that was a society hell bent on industrialization combined with a people with high technical affinity.

Depending of the stability of their governments, some areas in Africa will thrive. But by and large it will probably be centuries before Africa as a whole reaches better living standards in terms of indoor plumbing and regular electricity.

DESU 7 of the 10 fastest growing economies in the world are in sub-saharan Africa. And to be fair, the chaos from the post-colonial era civil wars only subsided in the past 20 years.

As for why Africa was less developed before colonization, the Tsetse fly is the biggest culprit. It transmits a disease which kills or severely weakens cattle and other mammals, called Nagana, severely reducing the ability of peasant farms to produce a surplus. In fact, Nagana is so bad that European colonization only became possible with the advent of railways, Europe tried to colonized Africa before that but failed miserably because Nagana kills all the horses. Btw, we still don't have a cure for Nagana, which is similar to human Malaria, for which we also don't have a cure.

Its easy to see why our species thrived in the rest of the world. Our craddle, Africa, is so harsh that it shaped us into survival machines.

If you look at the history of current successful countries, no state in Africa is really ready to become "modern". The best thing they have is the East African Community (Burundi, Kenya, Rwanda, South Sudan, Tanzania, Uganda), but even that is basically Tanzania and Kenya pulling the rest up a bit.

What Africa needs is populist movements that lead to a united people behind a strong leader that can hold the country together for a few decades. I'm mainly basing this off Germany, Soviet Union, Communist China. If that ever were to really happen, the "atrocities" that would involve would probably mean western intervention, putting it down again before it gets a proper hold.

Regardless of whether they go strong left or strong right, they need a strong leader with vision and support. It could even be democratic, but I just don't see that working in Africa, tribal identity is still too real for that.

Current best example of a failed strong leader without proper vision/wisdom: Mugabe. And he's starting to lose support, as well as getting old without a clear successor (as far as I know).

Extrapolation is fact

No, but I would imagine it's a contributory factor, but definitely not the main reason. That's not to say the dumb fucking niggers could ever become civilized though. Don't even worry about it. It is the White Man's Divine Right to colonize his own planet.

Said the polcuck.
Jokes aside, I'm seriously triggered by our new "progressive" history books that say we had mutually-productive relationships with the horde, and never mention the Igo negatively.

>nothing but what we left them.


They would have still ripped everything apart and sold it for a fast buck instead of using it. Even the stuff they couldn't loot was left to rot.

Fair enough, but Africa is still huge.

>Best thing that could happen to Africa is some really severe flue virus killing everybody, preferably one that we can easily survive due to hygiene / medical care in the west but cant prevent there.

Ebola is so close to fitting the bill it's almost sad it didn't work the last time. Who knows if we will ever get another chance.

Maybe the CIA can engineer Zika into something more lethal.

>Mercator projection
>Fair

Zika is owned and patented by the rothchilds, CIA would need permission.

If you guys used common sense you'd see why African society is shit:
1) Africa is a wasteland
2) Africa has been dangerous as fuck to live in which hindered the development of civilization because it was already hard enough to survive

A village in Europe didn't have to deal with Malaria, Sleeping sickness, etc. And they could just run around in the forest hunting nice small mammals to eat

A village in Africa is getting raped by these diseases all the time, and one day an elephant might stroll through their crops and eat the village's year supply of food in a day, and then they'd all probably die, if they didn't get wiped out by lions or mosquitos or something awful

A lot harder to create a civilization when your tiny village keeps getting skullfucked all the time

But now Africa is basically Middle East Lite, the middle east is the ones who should really be laughed at. They got carried by the romans for 800 years, then they had the pinnacle of civilization for another thousand years... then they were clearly cursed by Kek because now they are literally the shittiest place on earth.

the reason is that it kinda started a anglo stlye white man civilization and then abolished it leaving half assed countries that broke into anarchy. africa would be probably better if

- not for the colonial interference
- not for abondoning the colonies like this

also donation that go to fund the local mafias aren't helping either. africa needs a industrial revolution like china does, not some welfare.

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We could solve all of the world's problems by killing everyone with an IQ below 90.

hahahaha

>kill them

No, send them to the shittiest places on earth to work in the fields and mines so we can more easily harness the planet's resources over here in America.

>india was actually a country that was made worse off because of colonialism.

Sure. In before arguments about share of GDP, total world GDP increased, India's just didn't.

I'd say Russia is more cucked and degenerate than Poland. Compare church attendance only

>Americas
lol

This guys gets it.

Those no longer exists bro.

>56

Isn't that literally animal tier intellect?

Also, howdy Satan.

>India's just didn't.
Because India didn't industrialize. China's share of the GDP fell exactly the same way as India's without being colonized.

Europe had to survive harsh winters.

Don't forget that despite the plague they still came back on top. Add the flu, smallpox, scurvy, dysentry, cholera.

This is based on the indigenous populations of the map, you Swiss retard.

>gets it

I was making fun of him because that's basically the status quo right now

As Kek wills it, it will be done

You know, the guy who compiled these maps, Richard Lynn, did way too much bull shit for most of this information to be reliable. For example, he determined bushmen were the lowest IQ people on Earth, at 54 or 57, based on a sample of mentally retarded bushmen children living in an asylum in Spain. He then went on to state that, given the IQ of European children aged 8 is 50+, they would have no problem surviving in the Kalahari desert, home of the bushmen.

...not a very reasonable man.

>harsh winters
>comparable to Africa

Fair enough about those diseases, but those still spread from person to person so at least you know its coming

Every mosquito bite in Africa was basically russian roulette

Friendly reminder that economics and free markets support colonialism. If barbaric peoples are not realizing the use of market resources then someone else will. In other words, it was inevitable that these people would be "exploited" for their resources.

the problem is that Africa isn't shitty enough, so some of them are able to leave it.

Anyway, there's no reason to keep them around when you can get one hillbilly with an IQ of 92 and a tractor to do the work of 30 africans

Yeah, but at least we had some achievements in the past. Like going to space. The second you got that retarded rule in your parliament that allowed one stubborn faggot who didn't agree with the majority to veto the decision was the end of great Polan.

He didn't even actually use IQ tests from 100+ countries and filled them with assumptions. Other national IQ's were determined by testing a classroom of children.

The fact that this is the most popular study referenced by pol really says something about the retards in here

The highest 10% IQ should be able to leave the shitholes and come to America in that scenario

if we COMPLETELY isolate ourselves from the rest of the planet, we'll end up inbred mutants like the British

Romans and Greeks used to think the cold climate made people stupid, which was their explanation as to why Northern Europeans were technologically backwards compared to themselves and Middle Easterners (Asians in this context is referring to Phoenicians, Babylonians and Persians who the Greeks had contact with)

Post the hamburger one. I'll wait. Let's see if you can surpass the cream of the crop of the Aryan race mongrel.

Another example of Richard Lynn's bullshit is this: the measurable IQ of African Americans was, in the 90s, on average 85. The peoples of West Africa, which are genetically identical to African Americans, have an average IQ, according to Lynn, of 70. When confronted with the discrepancy, and with the more generally occurring Flynn effect - people today systematically score higher in IQ tests - Lynn asserted that the difference was due to malnutrition which would interfere with childhood brain development.

So Lynn spontaneously concluded that poverty makes people more stupid. Yet when asked about the source of systematic IQ differences, he asserts they are purely or nearly purely genetic.

Theres are multiple sources showing the same IQ trend in europe mate. You can me mad, but you're a moor nigger and you don't matter.

It's literally the opposite of what you're saying.

How to fix Africa
-Mass re-arrangement of countries into homogenous ethno states based around genetic, historical and linguistical proximities
-Creation of hybrid languages from related language groups
-Suppression of splinter dialects
-At-loss establishment of TV and radio networks in order to advance homogenization
-Mass immigration of Chinese and Indian labour
-Re-establishment of Rhodesia
-High barriers to cross-country migration
-Establishment of white and chinese-run resource processing infrastructure in order to provide jobs and tax money


TL:DR: Ethnostates, soft neo-colonialism, localization of infrastructure, blending of related bloodlines into strong, homogenous nations.

It went from half and half Thorvaldsen and Islam, to islsm, to colonialism to proxy wars during the Cold War with arms and drug trade, illegal mining and oil extraction for the west to make shit with communism or communism AND Islam all in one, then the Berlin Wall and back to Islam and globalist corrupt and UN bullshit to neo urbanism gentrification that feels like Dubai or Doha that westerners are too naive to even know about yet
And terrorists in the north, and the global drug and arms trade moving across Africa to and from the Mid East and Europe/Americas

If the ice age made Eurasians evolve higher intelligence, then could changing the African climate to include a winter season make Africans evolve higher intelligence?

I knew it! Taxes here are high as fuck in proportion to one's salary. What a fucking robbery!

>American education

What do you mean the Middle East was carried by the Romans for 800 years? It was the wealthiest part of the world before the Romans were even a thing and remained so right up until ~1200AD

Middle East fell to shit after the Turko-Mongol Invasions of the 1200's and again in the 1400's, and then the Silk Road (the economic blood of the region) died when Western Europe discovered direct trade routes to the East

>australia
Ahahahahahaha
Please let this be falsea

The map literally says the word "indigenous." They base the American White IQ off the European IQ because American Whites are of European descent. Are you really a native Swiss because you sound about as stupid as as a fucking Greek.

Well, colonialism didn't effect anyone else in this way. Why only Africa?

it's retarded to break it down like this. In most parts of sub-sahara africa the dialects change every 50 kilometres. The countries need many years of State sponsored education to raise a generation of children knowing a national language

Thanks

At this point I would like America to be good again. When Europe sees us coming back to our senses, things will improve there too.

>They base the American White IQ off the European IQ because American Whites are of European descent.
kek

That i not what I said how?

Yes, in Africa you can grow something all year round. Maybe not as much during dry season (depending on the area) but all least you don't freeze your ass to death.

Sure mate. Just don't rely on information generated by Richard Lynn himself, its often bullshit.

Those inbred mutants did pretty well.

Btw if you check your country's demographics on wiki you will see that the portuguese community is the third highest behind germans and italians so your argument is moot.

The reason you guys have such a standard of living is because you are a tax haven in which criminals and underhanded businessman flee with their capital.

A self made man entrepreneur might make less money than the drug dealer but that doesn't make the drug dealer a better person.

you aren't going to develop nations in africa around ethnostates. it's going to result in ten thousand nations the size of Luxembourg

>the only thing stopping subhuman genocide is the west
>the west collapsing would incidentally also stop european genocide

Nah. There are enough broad similarities that it could work.

Most american indians were killed by smallpox, same with australian aborigines, leaving the land empty.
Also

>There are enough broad similarities that it could work.
Kind of like Rwanda and the Congo?

No. I agree. A lot of our IQ based statistics are skewed and shitty because the popular climate makes it impossible to get funding to do real research on race-based intelligence. We work with what we have, which as it stands is mostly correlation data (tech level, economy, etc).

blah blah blah. i've heard these excuses from jealous europoors a thousand times. it's always the same broken record and utilises the same tired "muh criminal banking meme" when the banking industry is just a sliver of our actual economy. now shush

That's the lamest comeback I've seen so far today on this shit site. I know this is hard for you but there are over 195 million White Europeans in the US. That number doesn't include Hispanics, Sand Niggers, or mixed race mongrels. Here's a picture of one of our current presidential candidates. He looks pretty White to me desu.

No. Colonialism held hem back, but isn't why they currently are failing. Look at China, India, and Korea. Colonies, and all of them are successful or growing at break neck speeds.

Not even all African countries are failing. Nigeria was a colony, and now has a larger economy than Poland and is still growing. Several countries in Africa are growing steadily and recovering.

Failing African nations are failing because they didn't learn how to run nations from the white man. Those that are successful emulated us, those that chose not to are failing.

For the portuguese woman.

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>too stupid to attach pic to post
Discarded

There really isn't. Take libya for example. It has 500 tribes that have their own identities. Qaddafi kept it all together under regime with a brutal security apparatus but he made some headway trying to give the nation a unifying identity and teaching them a common language. The Libyan State collapsed and the country broke down into tribal confederations depending on who identified with who and had similar ambitions for the future.

It's far worse in this regard in sub-sahara africa. You've got pretty much no option but to construct nations out of artificial super identities. The region needs a lot of time to develop them.

They're stone age people, but liberals make every excuse for them. Nothing will get better in sub-Saharan Africa. They're IQs won't magically get any higher.

>1) Africa is a wasteland
Africa has a massive untapped wealth of resources. Why do you think colonialists went there in the first place? For shits and grins?
>2) Africa has been dangerous as fuck to live in
Because of negroids and arabs.
>which hindered the development of civilization because it was already hard enough to survive
The Rhodesians (British expats) went from dirt to skyscrapers in less than half a century. Negroids didn't manage to invent the wheel in 100,000+ years.

The issues facing modern sub-Saharan Africa exist because negroids have an average IQ more than a standard deviation lower than Europeans. Every other offered explanation is simply tiptoeing around this fact.

stop referencing Lynn, his """"study"""is bullshit. I can also create an IQ map of the word without testing 100+ countries

France drained its colonies of every resource over the years, so this is why places like Haiti are dirt poor

It's currently the fastest industrializing part of the world right now, it's been steadily improving the last 10 years

Said banking industry also finances local business.

Theres more to it than the money made by interest rates. Or are you telling me that switzerland can get rich on clocks and pocket knives alone? lool

>India was actually a country
Stopped reading there.

Grandfather lived and worked in congo for a couple of years.

> Belgians built railway
> Railway breaks
> They never repaired it.

> Have nice houses
> Belgians leave
> They use door as firewood

>The peoples of West Africa, which are genetically identical to African Americans,

People in America who identify as 'African American' have something like 15% european DNA on average.

Not enough to make a huge difference in an individual, but across a population of 30 million it's significant.

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Of course you can't.
Not if you're a layman, and certainly not if you're a fellow since it'd mean career suicide.

Until you, or the chinese since they don't give a fuck, do, Lynn is all we got, you retarded nigger/regular woman.

they developed settled civilizations in some parts, actually earlier than Europeans.

>india was actually a country that was made worse off because of colonialism.

Prove it

We gave them security and trade, they flourished under us. To this day, they still speak English and they play cricket. And they have a British style parliamentary democracy.

India would be nothing without our influence.

Niggers turn everything around them to shit

Have you never heard of the Herreditarian Hypothesis? Its both genes and correct nutrition through development. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hereditarianism

Also, the Average African American has a white admixture of around 24%. Here is a NYT article about it. nytimes.com/2014/12/25/science/23andme-genetic-ethnicity-study.html?_r=0

Combined better nutrition and white Admixture are the factors that improved the intelligence of African Americans over their time spent here. It should theoretically continue to rise as the standards of society get better.

However we now seem to be stuck in something far worse with this Agrobusiness FDA and big Pharma situation which combined contribute to an alarming drop in IQ across the board.

>Discarded
Too afraid to continue argument because you're all out of ammo.

Sudan was an egyptian colony...

Our pharma, medical devices, robotics industries, watches, electronics, food, tourism and other exports combined are the strength behind our economy. You need to stop believing silly memes, it makes your race look retarded.

Using combustibles to cook food in Africa is a sin, when a little foil can so easily create a solar oven.

IQ is all that really matters. If your country's around 100 it has the potential to be first world.

Too bad you forgot to potty train them.

Why the fuck is Australia so low? Are Abos really that stupid?

But "my race" is the third largest community in switzerland. Pretty close to the top 2.

Is your country retarded as well?

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_Switzerland#Nationality

>100+ countries not tested
>many national IQ's tested used results from a classroom of children

Lynn's paper is the posterchild example of a study that was just painting a target around an arrow already shot. He developed the map based on American perceptions of race and intelligence. It's a fucking meme and you're a dumbass for referencing it showing you don't actually properly research what you're talking about. And because you are evidently not properly researching your information on this topic your opinions are now invalid, so please stop talking

that's Egyptian Sudan, aka sandniggers, not real ones

>American education

no they weren't. They were Kushites, which are nubian negroids. At one point they actually took over Egypt and set up a negroid dynasty which is the source of the black pharoahs and we wuz kangz meme

IQ is 100% genetics.
Environment is integrally part of genetics, since the capacity to forge our environement rely on the IQ which is genetic.
Wealth of the household is tied to the IQ of the workers in the home, just like the wise use of said wealth.
Delayed gratification is completely tied to IQ and so genetics.

Everything is genetics. The fact environment can be and have been controlled without significant change to the interracial performances should be all the red fucking herring ( yum ) one needs.

You're aware your race works in my country entirely employed as Maids right? My maid is a portugese women who comes by twice a week to clean my apartment.

I don't know why you keep pushing this "portugese are the 3rd highest foreign population in your country", do you think it provides you some leverage? Wealthy countries have always imported slave labor. It's nothing to be surprised about

Kushites were Nubian (negroid). They took over Egypt for awhile and set up some black pharaohs which is the source for we wuz kangz meme

>what is epigenetics?

nutrition and education play massively into it.

East and West Germany had a 15 point IQ gap

seriously please stop talking you are embarrassing yourself

>My maid is a portugese women
Would someone kindly explain to me why everyone calls a woman "women" on the internet nowadays? Is it a meme I missed, like womyn?

>Like going to space
But this was a sign of irrational allocation of money. What use there is of space technology, when 90% lives in bad conditions. And that kind of money spending didn't prevent the Soviet Union from being in the end overwhelmed by America's might, and this lasts even today

probably misspelled

You're wrong. We misrepresent the size of countries on 2D maps massively.

just typo. posting from laptop in awkward poisition, hard to hit the keys. no hidden meme mate, take it easy

Africa has shit river systems that turn into rapids and fucking water falls every where.

Africa to Africans is basically a giant locked room full of watermelon and KFC but they don't have the key.

Wow. West Germany was 15 points lower because of all the Turk-roaches?

IQ is the strongest correlation for all economical, HDI, crime rates, whatever you wish really metrics.
Africa fail at all those metrics EXACTLY as would be expected if their IQ was even remotely around what Lynn guestimated.

You know what correlation =! causation means ?
It mean you can't deduce anything with just one or two or three, with weak correlation.

The array of correlations concerning the african inferiority is literally countless. No amount of rhetoric can change the data. You are on the wrong side of History, and i'll make sure my ASI find all you people supporting the collapse of Humanity and tranforming us into another failed planetbound species through combing the social medias archives, and slaughter you all.
You disgust me.

Of course not.

Sure natural resources were stolen, but not all were limited ones. Rubber as an example, plant new rubber trees and problem solved. There are still LOTS of natural resources in Africa; gold, diamonds, rubber, minerals used in electronics etc

But even though resources were stolen from the Africans, they were given infrastructure in return (roads, airports, modern harbors and railways) and technology (cars, trains and pretty much everything else thats modern that you can think of

you're pulling the cart before the horse. A country with prosperity, that can provide good food and education, is going to produce a generation of better children. In undeveloped countries kids are getting shit education and their food is basically whatever the parents can do to fill their bellies but neglecting the variety that's normal in western diets.

Whatever you the case about whether Africans are inherently stupider than Whites may be, the REAL gap between whites and blacks taking out all other factors is going to be far narrower than what pol assumes.

Also the IQ of US blacks has been steadily increasing over the years so we're yet to see how far it'll get.

If IQ is directly correlated with crime then we can assume most americans are retarded.

>oh wait...

mfw the ASI slaughter begins

No, it's just that africans are niggers. Do not spin your wheels over this.

Prosperity is genetic.
What you are describing is a virtuous circle and ALL virtuous circle ( where society feedback is concerned ) is 100% IQ, 100% genetics.
Good nutrition ? Good farming. Good farming ? IQ.
Education ? IQ.
Resources exploitation ? IQ.
Trade ? IQ.
Infrastructure development ? IQ.
Infrastructure maintenance ? IQ.

IQ. g. Intelligence. Not being a subhuman/being human.
Call it whatever you want, everything is bound to that. And that, is 100% genetic.

Gee, I don't know. Was it?

I want to go back in time and experience colonial africa

It seems comfy as fuck

>research on race-based intelligence


B-but you said race is a social construct.

When

are you people serious? You point out that 2d projections cannot possibly portray the surface of a globe correctly, so you post different 2d projections?

africa area in km2: 30.37 million km2
NA area in km2 (the continent, so including mexico and those little shitty countries): 24.71 million km2
China area in km2: 9.597 million km2
Russia area in km2: 17.1 million km2
France: 643,801 km2
Switzerland: 41,285 km2

Just for some ideas on scale and how the maps often misrepresent it.

Okay. So what is "race based" intelligence?

No, and the best example is South America.

We are fucked, but compared to Africa, we are the fucking First World.

Yes. No.

Africa was incredibly wealthy before the white man involved themselves in Africa, due to its slave trade economy.
Europe only got involved in Africa after Africa had been kidnapping and enslaving white Europeans. Europe didn't care when Africa just enslaved other Africans, but the slavery of white europeans grew into the millions.
So European nations got together and made slavery illegal. They told Africa to stop that shit. Africa refused, because slavery had made it very rich. So Europe went to war (1st Barbary war) to free white european slaves in Africa. And told africa to knock that shit off again.

Well.. Africa refused AGAIN and kidnapped and enslaved more white Europeans after the 1st Barbary war. So Europe went to war (2nd Barbary war) AGAIN with Africa. And France took over north africa to MAKE it stop slavery for good this time. And thus opened the door to colonialism.

Colonialism happened because Africa wouldn't stop enslaving everyone it could get its hands on. And once the military might was there to suppress Africa's slave trade, then that paved the way for opportunists and entrepreneurs. But no economic system came along to REPLACE Africa's reliance on its slave trade economy. A continent that had got rich on selling people, now had nothing to fall back on except what colonialism brought in the void.

So white people made Africa stop slavery, thus ruining its slavery-based economy. Colonialists didn't rob Africa as much as it just picked up what Africans didn't want. And there still is so much- so much arable land, so much in mineral resources, its a mystery why Africa doesn't turn to its own farming or mining. And...now the Chinese are going in to to pick up...again..what Africans aren't using themselves.

Africa still wont stop slavery. The only place in the world there STILL is widespread slavery is Africa. Whites keep trying to help civilize Africa and make it human and humane, but it seems a lost cause.

Yeah yeah, it has nothing to do with the fact that Switzerland is a tax haven trading-based country set right in the middle of the region of the country where the 3 capitals of highly centralist countries with huge populations are relatively close to each other.

It also doesn't explain how northeastern Spain is more developed than southwestern France, because most industries/trade offices don't tend to benefit from being close to where the money goes.

There was a time where Lisbon and Seville were among the biggest cities in Europe, which is when trade was centred here.

So don't pretend like your geography isn't closely related to your success as a trading tax haven, and put it on IQ and other bullshit metrics for intelligence, because the Portuguese abroad do perfectly fine against the locals with similar education.

t. Worked with German engineers who were thick as bricks and couldn't program their way out of an algorithmic problem after "solving" it theoretically.

We kept our colonies for a while longer, but you cunts and your soviet friends fucked it over for us too with "liberation" ideologies. Seeing the France/Algeria situation, though, it might have been for the better.

Genetic correlates with intelligence leading us to the causal factors

The aborigines are still dart blowing, half naked monkey-eaters.

Pretty talkative for a maid

>the slavery of white europeans grew into the millions.


Citation needed . . . idiot.

Underrated post.
I'm quite scared of the country that first invades and colonizes a big part of Africa.

Africa is a poor shithole because being a rebellious cunt who stands in subversion to western values and cultures is synonymous with standing in subversion to progress itself.

You rebel against not only nations, but culture and enlightened thinking, you shoot yourself in the foot.

Pretty shitty argument from a superior IQ twat.

Why though? Why are they worse than Africans when they had to travel through Asia to migrate to Australia?

and yet, the East was more advanced than most of Europe up until only a few hundred years ago

Abos are literally doubleniggers

They are a coalition of migrants. When user defends his nation's IQ he is defending pretty much the whole world lol. Theres no point discussing him because switzerland doesn't have its own ethnicity.

Its like a financial enterprise with people from all over the globe.

It's not an argument. It's a dismissal of someone that doesn't matter to me.

No it's not, if anything colonialism provided some infrastructure in african nations that previously had none, it also provided some some skills to the native Africans, in the end they squandered it all.

No, colonization is why they're almost passable as a continent so shitty that they literally had not invented the wheel in the south until Europe saved them.

I'm talking about the south american aborigines. As to "why": because they are low IQ stupid.

The excuses here are hollow.

No, black ppl are just retarded animals

Africa is a broken continent. You can only try starting an engine so many times before it's time to give up. We need to just let them be like the tribes in the rainforests. The fit survive, the unfit don't.

No, foreign aid is. It's like welfare on a continental scale.

>The fit survive, the unfit don't.
reminder that USA is 60% white and steadily declining.

Those abos must number less than 5000 in all the continent, and they're in the Amazon forest, where nobody gives a shit about unless there are minerals or petroleum to be exploited.

Not at all. As a matter of fact, Africa, prior to colonialism, was way more of a trading and capitalistic society. While colonialism was an exploitation of African people, it was better for Africa in the grand scheme of things. Post-colonialism is where Africa went wrong. After the white occupants in Africa left, way too many African natives had been overdosing on Marx and started their "worker's revolution" meme. After Marx had completely infected the entire continent, it plunged into total darkness.

You can easily argue that, if colonialism had never happened, maybe Marxism never takes hold in Africa because it was a reaction to colonialism. However, in the end, Africans were to blame for the demise of Africa.

Names?

Africans enslaving white europeans? Mate, it was the arabs that enslaved primarily slavs (hence slaves) but also some other various europeans. They went on slave raids along the european coasts, even as far north as Iceland.

Africans did not. If they did there should be some genetic traces somewhere in Africa, which there isnt. Its pitch black everywhere except for the Horn area (Somalia, Ethiopia). And they have some caucasian facial features due to being black/arab hybrids rather than having bred with white slaves.

I don't know why people can't wrap their head around the fact that emigrants are the bottom of the barrel.

Every Portuguese immigrant I know is a legitimate sub 70 IQ monkey who doesn't know that electricity can hurt you (I work a field in construction between my education, there's a lot of portuguese doing construction work terribly but none in education here)

When I go to Portugal, the people there are mostly intelligent and smart.

You need to realize that Portuguese people who leave Portugal to find work in Switzerland aren't your countries best. Stop talking about how good the good in your country are because it has absolutely no relation to your foreign population in other countries.

In a similiar way, Swiss emigrants are complete retards more often than not. Recently some Swiss man living in Brazil was collecting money for a heart operation on his ill son, with an article in the Blick (a boulevard paper). He got the money togther quickly (Swiss donations buy a lot in Brazil), the transplant was a success, but his son died because the Brazilian hospital used dirty tools.

Of course not every emigrant is the same. There's very good reasons to emigrate for a select few people.

No if it wasn't for outside empires Africa would be even worse of a shit hole. The have not made any progress there since the dawn of man.

thats extaclly why they are declining, only 60% whites

>be nigger
>average iq in your country is 60
>literally make clicking sounds for communicating

A race as stupid as this can't advance.

No it's the by product of Darwinism

Inventive risk taking people left the African continent , they passed those genes on. That's why white people do things like skydiving from space.

Risk averse people who were content with their way of life stayed behind and passed those genes on that's why black people are afraid to get on planes.


Part of it's cultural and part of it's genetic but I think it's more genetic than people give credit to.

I also have no sources for any if this it's just what I think,

Gonna love ya cunts

There are approximately 40,000,000 people in Latin America and the Caribbean that belong to the almost 600 indigenous peoples

google.com/url?q=http://www.iwgia.org/regions/latin-america/indigenous-peoples-in-latin-america&sa=U&ved=0ahUKEwj2weHik5XPAhVM42MKHTZHA1UQFggRMAI&usg=AFQjCNH0JIEcCqmlIfUm5nOB3IQiLUsaqw

All of them stupid.

>trading-based country set right in the middle of the region of the country where the 3 capitals of highly centralist countries with huge populations are relatively close to each other.
No. Because it's not a "trading-based" country. It's a service and innovation based country. This is because they are not brown retards like the Portugese. You had plenty of chances to make your country decent. But the fact is that you are genetically inferior.
There is a good reason you are maids for the Swiss and not the other way around. Location is not that reason.

Yes OP colonialism has ruined progress like that everywhere. Just look at India.

u try that in bosnia
you get serbed so hard

Africa never had a stone age.
Cunts can't even grow crops

Based. Serbs know.

AFRICA IS FUCKED BECAUSE THE LAND IS FULL OF NIGGERS.

That's all there is to it, no special "isms" needed

I thought those all went to France, and those we also hate with a passion. The current generation Diaspora isn't like that at all, as I've seen many comment on before on here.

Regardless, that bears no weight on IQ like your compatriot was suggesting.

But we were. Portugal was basically the centre of commerce and (naval) technology for almost 180 years before Spain fucked us over during the Union and the Netherlands stole our route plans.

Switzerland has been on top since when? WWII? Those are 70 years, not even half that time. You can't justify superiority for a shorter time just because you happen to live in it. Besides, even if banking systems don't pay for most of the countries expenses now, they sure as fucked kick-started it.

It's convenient geography that decides who's on top. Extrapolating the IQ is working your own argument backwards. Because our "brownness" sure as fuck did more than Switzerland for the ultimate trajectory of the world.

Our mercenaries kick-started our economy 700 years ago. How do you know so little of history. You're a joke. Just stop maid.

>Switzerland has been on top since when? WWII?
I'd say a few centuries ago when swiss Reisläufer were the most in-demand mercenaries in all of Europe and every monarch and other important person had his own Swiss Guard

Having a prestige service does not make your country the richest/most prosperous in the world. The cunts that paid for your mercenaries were all richer than you by definition, almost.

Being good does not equate for being on top. Switzerland has been well-off for very long, but they have had a top-tier economy until relatively recently.

Yeah, it's all the white man's fault.
He came and stole all their inventions and now they don't have them anymore.

>an intelligent, thoughtful post
>on my Cred Forums

you came to the wrong neighborhood motherfucker

> The cunts that paid for your mercenaries were all richer than you by definition, almost.
What kind of fucking logic is that, lmao
You don't have to be worse off than somebody else to provide a service.

christianityandrace.org/p/can-blacks-sustain-civilization.html

You're going to keep shifting those goalposts until you just submit to us, you're aware of the inevitable here right.

You know what I meant.Regardless, the rest of the argument stands on its own without that part.

You were talking about the dart-blowing, uncivilized abos from the Amazon, m8. Of course there are other groups of indigenous people here in SA. Here in my country at least 7% identifies as indigenous (around a million people or so). Though you're right, they are the second most poor of our ethnic groups, only blacks are poorer.

I live here nigger.

Just admit that the only reason switzerland is ahead is because of their decision to not partake in wars.

They were far behind us long before collonialism

You are forgetting that before westernization under Peter Russia was already a large and relatively powerful Christian state with large cities, firearms and a literary culture. They were maybe a couple of hundred years behind Western Europe.

Meanwhile, africans were stone age savages who hadn't invented the wheel.

>Selling mercenaries during the entire renaissance period
>Not partake in wars

Not that i'm surprised an italian somehow manages to make a portugese look intelligent, but this is a staggering level of stupidity

Of course the italian, masters of diplomacy and warfare, would think our neutrality is just a "decision to not partake in wars"

Jesus fuck you people sometimes

>Portugal was basically the centre of commerce
Yes. But that was a long time ago and now you have none of it. Switzerland has adapted to the modern world (extremely successfully) while Portugal clearly hasnt. . The Neaderthal used tools before Homo sapiens did, but where are they now?
It's like saying the Arabs are in fact ubermensch geniuses because they prospered in their golden age 500 years ago.
Besides you cant just blame Spain and something it did hundreds of years ago for all your sorrows.
>You can't justify superiority for a shorter time
The fact remains that we live NOW, and not 200 years ago. Switzerland has had unparalled success in the modern world in terms of living standards. And this isnt something that just happened magically. It took hundreds of years to lay down that foundation for success.
>It's convenient geography that decides who's on top.
Again. No it isnt. It's organization and effort. You cant just write it off as convinient location. Switzerland doesnt even have a single seaport ffs (which is still how 90% of the worlds trade is carried out). If anything Switzerland's location has been a nuisence rather than advantage.
Portugal simply lags behind the modern world and has to step up or perish.

The decision was made after that period retard
>our neutrality is just a "decision to not partake in wars"
Then what the fuck is it, the decision not to shit on the ground?
Both these posts prove that switzerland doesn't have much brainpower to help with the economy

There were a few small states in Africa and a handful of cities like Timbuktu. They had trade routes across the Sahara and by 1350 had learned basic smithing from the Arabs.

Russia was in a similar position in 1350, having adopting technology and institutions from the Byzantines before they were conquered by the Mongols.

The Russians would go on to push the Mongols out and adopt the firearms of Western Europe.

But Timbuktu merely changed hands through a kaleidoscope of different states based on the lucrative salt-gold trade facilitated by slave labor.

I'm about 85% certain you're a migrant that decided to claim asylum in Italy because you were too stupid to find your way to germany. Even italians aren't this stupid.

>Then what the fuck is it,
Ok, I'll now try to teach you critical thinking.

If neutrality is merely a decision, and clearly a beneficial one, why didn't everyone do it?

Hamite nations are cursed by God at the time we're living in. So called "edomites" are next.

>comparing Russia to fucking Africa
Wew lad. WTF is wrong with you?
>Russia didnt invent any of its own tech or institutions
>Didnt contribute to the Western world significantly
>They were maybe a couple of hundred years
>hundred years
Topkeks

>being this dense

You misrepresent the leaf.

Wwe were colonized and we're basically kangz compared to niggers. So, no.

you blow in from stupid town? that's not mercator

Not an argument
>why didn't everyone do it?
Because not everyone is irrelevant and not everyone was so utterly destroyed in a war that they promised their eternal withdrawal from warfare.

>Because not everyone is irrelevant
wow, so suddenly not EVERYONE can be neutral, there's a specific set of circumstances surrounding it.

Why wasn't belgium neutral if irrelevance is the deciding factor in wether or not someone can afford to stay neutral?

Mate. Your argument here is "Switzerland is rich now, therefore they are categorically genetically better and have higher IQ" - hoping for this state to maintain itself ad eternum.

You could've said the same thing about Portugal 500-600 years ago when we were rich, and you'd be just as wrong, clearly given our current state. That was the "modern world" then.

Swiss are not superior, they are just having their turn at the top because circumstances and smart decisions brought them there. A lot (not all) countries do, and it's periodical. Because as soon as they get 2 or 3 generations in a row comfortable with coasting on their parents' efforts, they'll start to make stupid decisions like every other spoiled mortal and the empire will fall. Just like ours did (by losing a war and letting the Crown fall into Spanish hands who were enemies of all our allies), just like they all do.

Portugal's success was due to the specific conditions of being land-blocked but having naval knowledge after years of entering and existing the Mediterranean, as well as the Northern sea for trades and fishing, so we thought it was a good idea to go out and explore - good decisions made under pressure and adverse circumstances that didn't last more than a dozen generations ~180yrs

Switzerland is enjoying a (limited) time of comfort after having their vaults full of Gold that attracted lots of people to a place where a small country with large amounts of money in the middle of 3 or 4 huge capitals that collect the taxes of huge countries, where they could keep their money safe from wars due to their treaties and geography. That's all there is - circumstance. If your country had had any success in the past, you'd be able to see it.

Shit changes, empires don't last forever, being on top now is no less a measure of high IQ (which was the original goal post) as much as being the World champion in football one year makes you the best country at football forever and ever categorically.

what is this sorcery? how is her skin so smooth?

required viewing on colonialism:
youtube.com/watch?v=NHnF85dww3M&list=LL23tGMjZz1PKCa-EenrfJig&index=3

>Why wasn't belgium neutral if irrelevance is the deciding factor in wether or not someone can afford to stay neutral?
Belgium was unlucky enough to be in a position of interest for germany, had it been entirely composed of mountains no one would have given a shit about it and today it would be in your same position. Luckily for you no one would even think of passing through your country to get in another one.
Also you need to have a valid argument to make such an important and long-lasting decision. In this day and age basically everyone in europe is for peace simply because war costs too much, but in the past war was a very viable way of becoming prosperous.

Africa is behind the rest of the world because niggers live there.

This pasta by a fellow swiss bro sums it up enjoy

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You are so retarded. Switzerland will prevail.
Europe is a shithole of warmongers. The EU will be gone in less than 10 years. Russia has their own problems.
If you think anyone cares about a barren mountain with 8 million trolls on it you are completely delusional.

Switzerland is the epitome of jewry. All the bullshit you hear about Nazi gold is just bantz for the lols and we laugh at every retard buying into these meme.

Switzerland is the jewish base in europe. It's the base for every rich faggot who's pulling strings and making billions on this pathetic continent.

None of them will shit in his own garden. We are safer here than anywhere else.

The polulation is disconnected from all this shit. We don't give a fuck. On the contrary to every other jealous euronigger who can't stand his neighbor earning 10€ more than him while he pays his 80% tax for niggers, we simply don't give a shit.

We have lived in this geographical location for 700 years. Around us there was constant mayhem. You are so naive to think that change is on the horizon. It is not.

We are used to every jealous faggot trying to bully us, we are hardened, we are nimble and we are sly. Fucking with us costs more than it brings. It's a tactical error, a game you win by not playing.

We are not relevant. And retards like you thinking we are just make a fool of themselves. Who cares about 15 Billions of money disappearing in some mountain if Eurodraghi just prints that in an hour?

You suffer of the classical SJW delusions. Brainwashed by the über jew into believing funny little fairytales of crafty little men hoarding the worlds riches under a mountain. And you don't realise that with your bullshitting you are just working the marketing for us and bringing us closer to that very tale becoming truth.

You are a fool and you will forever be a poor shitty irrelevant creature.

Switzerland, the country positioned in the middle of Europe with routes between italy, austria, france, and germany, was not a position of interest for hitler?

jesus dude. I don't even know what to say.

>war costs too much
Wars have always been highly profitable and a huge boost for economies.

Colonialism is the reason Africa HAS anything.
Abandonment of colonialism is why they're behind everything.

>Belgium was unlucky enough to be in a position of interest for germany,

Holy shit. You really think this is the reason? Position of interest? Do you know where Switzerland is located? No wonder you couldn't find your way to germany somali bro

>There are people in Africa who are even dumber than Abos

>Random greentexts
Wew lad.

They were under Mongolian occuption for the better part of the 1200s. In the two centuries after that they recovered their land and adopted technology from elsewhere. Firearms and their use were not indigenous to Russia.

Russian contributions to Europe occured largely after the 1500s. Even then, they constantly took in experts from Western Europe seeking to learn and improve already created technology. Very few Russian experts ventured to Western Europe.

By contrast the Africans never took in anyone, learned anything or improved anything. Their firearms were simply purchased from the Portuguese as is.

In terms of the economic system, legitimate comparisons can be made between serdom and slavery.

Yeah, the country that made Milan in the middle ages rich because no one would even think of passing through it.
The US has spend 2 trillions on iraq and almost a trillion on vietnam, ww2 alone was a gigantic strain for all countries which "magically" became more prosperous than ever in an year's time after peace.

I think you should get a geographical map

>the country that made Milan in the middle ages rich because no one would even think of passing through it.
I want you to google what tunnels and asphalt roads are because we got tons of those now in every direction.

Jesus christ nigger, you're retarded.

>now
woah

No, it's because Africa is full of niggers.

>It was hard to cross the alps in the 1100's
>It will always be hard to cross the alps

>Roads and rails were not invented by 1914 or 1939

I really cannot believe how stupid you are. If you aren't a refuge you for sure are a south italian

no its the biome they are living in that kept them so low.
when you have scarce food, water + huge amounts of useless sand its not that hard to imaging the caucasians being in a wrought position then the colonialism came and made them slaves where made sure even when they got "civilized" they kept acting like animals because they where threated like animals

let the rest faggots cry about how niggers are born bad and shit

Because the nigger is happy to sit around chewing khat all day if not procrastinating till there isn't enough khat to go around, then go to war.

The only thing colonialism did was modernize their wars a bit, but it is still the same tribal bullshit they do.

Chopping off someones hands because their father's grandmother belonged to a different tribe.

Africa should be recolonized before the chinks take it all.

Are you pretending or do you unironically think these things are post WW2 tech?

This.

>>It will always be hard to cross the alps
>My entire argument is that it was in the past

>by 1914 or 1939
The point is both how developed they were and how much interest there was in the country.
Hitler had both Austria and France, having a new war just to make a couple of roads 10 kilometers shorter would be ridiculous.
The Belgian situation is completely different, being basically an open field to Paris, while the french border was fortified to shit. They were even considering invading the netherlands for more space to invade from. I don't know if you knew this, but mountain warfare is the slowest and most impractical of all wars. Strange I know. I wonder what kind of warfare would invading switzerland involve.

Yes because white people were jealous of black people flying around in pyramid spaceships like kings so they destroyed their continent

when you get sacks of rice dumped on you for free, you don't need to farm.
the entire continent is a welfare state that's become dependent on outside aid to keep its inflated populations floating.

almost every fucking country on the african continent is an unstable piece of shit, which is being kept unstable by outside countries and then sustained by the africans' own countrymen.

> dumbfuck catholics tell people don't use condoms
> STD rate soars

>Africa is such a shithole that it was improved by colonialism

Of course. If only evil whitey wasn't around, they'd rule the world, naturally.

WE

in part yes, but keep in mind that they were mostly a resource extraction colonies so they weren't very interested in having any kind of structure other than facilities to get resources, of course south Africa and Rhodesia had settlers but remember 90 per cent of its people are dumb stone age people without any kind of structure until the 1950, take brasil for instance we were basically a resource colony the only time we got to fix problems and create structures was when napoleon invaded portugal and the royal family had to make Brazil their refugee so they took time building and fixing this mess that is why we are not a complete fuckhole like africa but we are getting there the commies and leftists are taking care of it

they wouldn't even exist anymore without colonialism

East coast beast coast. Seriously, you are moron: the east has the best infrastructure and industry. New York, Boston, DC. We do not need to leech to thrive.

WUZ