/es/ - Spain General

This thread is for the discussion of Spanish politics.

>741 million euros estimated on the ERE fraud
abc.es/espana/abci-fiscalia-cifra-741-millones-fraude-201609160741_noticia.html

>Requested 6 years in prison for Griñán and 10 years of disqualification for Chaves
elconfidencial.com/espana/andalucia/2016-09-15/fiscalia-anticorrupcion-grinan-chaves-seis-carcel-diez-inhabilitacion-casos-ere-andalucia_1260206/

>Rajoy prevents requesting Rita Barbera's seat: "I don't have any authority over her anymore."
elmundo.es/espana/2016/09/16/57dc26f0e5fdeac24a8b45f2.html

>22% of youth doesn't study nor work.
elmundo.es/sociedad/2016/09/15/57d9d94c268e3e94518b45f8.html

>Immigrants forced back to Morocco after trying to jump the border fence on Spanish land, at least we do something right.
express.co.uk/news/world/710700/migration-Morocco-Spain-refugee-crisis

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en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barcelona_(Spanish_Congress_Electoral_District)
youtube.com/watch?v=VTkBbF8hOjU
youtube.com/watch?v=uL2JwskIVwQ
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murcia_(Spanish_Congress_Electoral_District)
elmundo.es/elmundo/2011/08/01/ciencia/1312225554.html
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Name_of_Andalusia#Atlantic_theory
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish_Ladies
lavanguardia.com/politica/20110911/54214522987/miles-de-personas-se-manifiestan-con-motivo-de-la-diada-por-el-centro-de-barcelona.html
lavanguardia.com/politica/20120911/54349943522/diada-manifestacion-independencia-catalunya.html
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maria_Pita
blog.iese.edu/martinezabascal/2014/03/12/seguridad-social-cuanto-pagamos-realmente/
youtube.com/watch?v=Wj02ZyUDDXM
m.youtube.com/watch?v=-Yt7bV3rjtg
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POLE

>ID
>FEO
what the fuck

Will there be another Spanish civil war in my lifetime?

It was a dream of mine as a child to go fight commies during it

I already know that Barcelona is enriched, but how bad are your other biggest cities and 2nd tier cities (your capital Madrid, Valencia, Seville, Zaragoza, Malaga, Murcia, Bilbao, ...)?

subpole

facism

Eres FEO :^)

Vete a Cred Forums con los rojos anda.

What part of Spain are you guys from, lads? I'm from El Belgica.

Cucked by IDs!

FREE CATALONIA.!!!!!!!

FREE BASQUE !!!!!

LEAVE THEM ALONE YOU FUCKING SPANIARDS.

I miss forofgold.

¿Por qué no te marchas y vas a dar por culo a otra parte?

I do not disagree with you, camarada

estoy en los dos sitios para mi solo es una pestaña mas

Are Andalusians white?

>spanish politic
I kekked audible, dear Pablo.

Classic Spaintard. You off to fight for Putin in Ukraine too?

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But I thought Serbians were against independence.

Galicia, like a big part of spanish Cred Forums posters.

ROJOS DE MIERDA
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>francoist/pepero scum
>can't into english
why am I not surprised

Probably.

They're not any better...

Euskadi

>not liking based putin
tip jej

[COLAPSE]

As white as Spaniards can be, tanned Andalusians are also common, but tanned people are common throughout the Mediterranean coast.

I'm not commie but I think that communism is better

>Galicia
>Cred Forums
Why? Are Galicians generally more right wing or is it just a (((coincidence)))?

Is it alright with you guys if I steal a qt from your country to make lots of catholic babies and drink cava with?

why is your country ruled by fuckin' commies
you were one of the most devouted christian societies for a long fucking time
is this because franco-guilt?

>I'm not commie but I think that communism is better

In what? If it is colapse, it is true

>is this because franco-guilt?

Yes.

Like most north regions Galicia is traditional/conservative.

Actually if I will go to war i will go to Syria to fight for the ypg

>is this because franco-guilt?

Yes

canis not, canis are the niggers of spain

Are they?

because Galicians are mostly braindead, that's why they can't ever give a straight answer.

What do you think about the alpha male?

>ruled by commies
hasn't their gov been PP for a while now aside from all this faggotry the past few months?

Why the fuck our women are so appreciated?

Some of them are beautiful and all that but what the fuck with the anglos and spaniard girls.

Other comunist sjw, a cuck.

>cava
>our country
Get out.

Andalusia no moro

>hasn't their gov been PP for a while now aside from all this faggotry the past few months?

And they are...?

Cuck.

Face your future bootlicker

>Madrid
It's ok except the south, many sudacas there.
>Valencia
Chavs, and bongs
>Seville
It's ok, but most of them are retarded and try too hard to look funny.
>Zaragoza
Quite based, but I don't know how is to live there.
>Malaga
See Valencia but switch chavs for Andalusians. Full of brits too
>Murcia
Not relevant
>Bilbao it's ok but full of leftist, San Sebastián is better.

Almería and Granada are full of Africans working in the greenhouses, but they aren't problematic yet

We need our own Inejiro

>entropy
>good
si lo piensas en españa pueden ahber mas de 200.000 judios

Why are """"""nationalists""""" in Catalunya leftist pieces of shit? It's like a 2nd Scotland.

There are more commies and independentists here than anything else, so fucking sad

When next civil war? we didn't do things right last time

Españoles en el mundo ...
We're running low on those.

>A comunist call bootlicker to other person.

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAJ THAT CAN BE TRUE, GO TO SUCK THE COMANDANTE IGLESIA´S DICK.

I just like meds senpai

Yeah like there is argument's in favor of separatism.. come on gib me some

>Cuck
>literally the only politician proposing to march to the EU and tell them to stop fucking us over with their fiscal policies
in any case he's the least cucked.

>en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barcelona_(Spanish_Congress_Electoral_District)
it seems they also have a right wing independence party but it's smaller

Except they aren't, there's about a 50-50 split nowadays between right wing and left wing nationalists.

And every time he said we need more feminism? What is this? Not cuck? It's just a Chavist more

Same, el Santo Reino de Jaén.

Because the left parties are the only ones who would give them independence.

>Implying he would do any of that.
He is too busy purging his own party, he has Stalin complex.

>pablo iglesias
>comunist
KEK

>implying there's arguments against separatism
you're cucked and proud of it. kys

>is this because franco-guilt?

Yes, like a soft version of hitler guilt

youtube.com/watch?v=VTkBbF8hOjU

Ehhhhh.

Galicia is a bit less cucked but it's not conservative paradise.

noice, we have our own general. Now all we need i to meme someone 4 prez. Any ideas?

youtube.com/watch?v=uL2JwskIVwQ

>implying the others don't say similar crap
as you would have noticed if you weren't illiterate, I said
>LEAST KEKED
at least he's only SJW cucked, and not economically cucked.

To be fair, he says he is now a Social democrat ;)

Are they?

>and not economically cucked.
... You are baiting me? The chavism is a joke

Álava is the best of the Basque Country

>he has Stalin complex
literally nothing wrong with that. The spanish left needs strong leaders. I hate SJWs, but I hate closeted SJW that are fucking up our economy even more.

And he says "Marx is a social democrat", his conception of social democrat is clear.
social democrat = Communism.

>Galicia is a big less cucked but it's not conservative paradise.
There is no real conservative paradise anywhere in modern Spain.

Nobody have that guilt because it was from outside. this country needs a clean up rightards and everything will be fine
And he says he has cunt, he has it?
again say a single communist thing in the podemos electoral program, just a single one

YO SOY COMUNISTA Y ME LLAMO PABLO IGLESIAS.

No, fucking bastard.

You are trying to fug the country more than already is.

Motivation? money

It doesn't matter how you put it peacefully, crying or with a war.

It won't happen, you simply have no right or power to do that.

cuckservatives are still beter than lefties desu

>The one with the glasses
>So qt
He is a walking meme and his ideology is whatever is trendy on Twitter.

>The chavism is a joke
The whole chavism thing has been memed into existance by the butthurt jew-run lügenpresse.
>tfw Podemita mayoress in Barcelona
>tfw SJW crap but finally getting some law and order up in this bitch
>tfw right-wing mayor almost made the whole city go to shit in just one legislature

Why the fuck are there so many Catalonian flags in Barcelona it isnt even independant and hasnt been for centuries.

Castillians/aragonese should crush them like before

t. Confused Dutch man

Yea, that's what I'm saying. Our country is cucked either way.

Carlism come back, please.

>Murcia
>not relevant
>en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murcia_(Spanish_Congress_Electoral_District)
>one of the most right wing states

>Motivation? money
yeah because the motivation against separatism is... other stuff. Not money. Not at all, nuh-uh.
You people are just butthurt because you want to keep getting free gibsmedat from Catalonia.

elmundo.es/elmundo/2011/08/01/ciencia/1312225554.html
Neither Blacks nor Nords, Egyptians were Spanish.

>This meme image again.

Okay, then cooperatives with capitalist mentality are socialist? They are owned by the workers.

>And he says he has cunt, he has it?

Yes.

They drive you to the cliff at 80km/h while the others do it at 150km/h. At the end of the day you still die.

Ethnic catalans are a minority. A lot of independentist want to create an state in order to run their leftist policies. They don't give a fuck about identity.

There's only one party that is against immigration and they're a minority. This is so fucking frustrating

>cuckservatives are still beter than lefties desu
Well this is true.

WE

The last girl to the right is obviously not autochthonous Spanish. Looks mixed.

Que carallo dixeches da miña Jalisia ti, media merda? Direiche que gradueime con honores nos mariscadores de Rianxiño, e teño estado relacionado con multiples asaltos secretos contra os putos ilejales jodendo pulpos polas pedras, e teño mais de 300 pauasos confirmados neses fillos de puta. Estou entrenado en manejo de fousiño e son o máximo exemplar de todos os forestadores do Barbanza. Ti para min non eres mais que outro toxo. Arrancareiche de raís cunha precisión que aínda nunca se veu nesta comarca, que che quede claro. Ti pensas que ser un comemerdas en Internet che vai saír jratis? Pensato ben cabrón. Ahora mesmo estoulle pedindo a contraseña de wifi ó camarero, e penso avisar a meu tío Fransisco pra que traia o todoterreno. Así que preparata pra a tormenta, fulano. A tormenta de ostias que che vai deixar a cara coma a suela dun sapato. Estás morto, neno. Podo estar en todos lados, a calquer hora a partir de que volvamos do mar, e podo escarallarche vivo en mais de setesentas maneiras. E eso e só usando o sacho que levo no maletero. Non solo eso, teño á miña disposisión todos os tipos da cofradía que están aquí a tomar o vermú, e penso avisalos a todos pra que che abran a cabesa. Se ten solo soubeses o que fasías cando merdaposteaches sobre Jalisia, ó mellor habías estar calado. Pero non o podías saber, non o fixeches, e ahora vas pajar o pato. Me cajo en dios que non che vai conoser nin túa nai. Estás morto, rapás.

I know, which is why I call them cuckservatives and I despise these parties, but like you they fuck you at a less fast pace so I will always prefer them over lefties.

Btw, at least with these centre-right cuck parties you can have some sort of fiscal responbility, lefties just throw money away

WUZ

Are you Catalan yourself,

yet it does have so many gyppos and niggers

But you just said that I'm a cuck AND PROUD.

I'ts a contradiction.

I'm I cucked or my motivation is money?

Maybe there are things more important than just a few sheckels.. as I said you are already privileged.


bona nit

So now it is
>They don't give a fuck about identity.
but then others say
>Hurr Catalonia is indoctrinating its children with the catalan identity that's why there's separatism

so which one is it? I'm honestly confus.

But I think it's positive that Catalonia is trying to reassert a cultural identity which is more than
>hurrrrr oldest nation in the universe durrrrr toros

Yeah there's immigration, but at least they get forced to assimilate.

>aragonese crushed us
They were fucked by castilians and now they're just a castilian colony

nah

You don`t earn a place in a cooperative by working you earn it by putting money in it so yeah is sound capitalistic for me

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Name_of_Andalusia#Atlantic_theory
Andalusians are Atlanteans.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish_Ladies

I know I'm not going to get a serious answer beyond "muh GDP" but I really can't help but wonder why you would want independence only to turn your homeland into a rootless, borderless, cosmopolitan, multicultural state.

Gf and I are going to stay with some friends in Zaragoza for Fiestas del Pilar next month.
Aside from the feast and alcohol is there anything else worth checking out or anything a Cred Forumslack should be aware of?

You're cucked by the spanish government into thinking Catalonia needs to be spanish.
The spanish government meanwhile is only in it for the shekels.
It's not so simple

bona nit.

There is, but hey! Work is fascist!

>Yeah there's immigration, but at least they get forced to assimilate.
That is not a good thing. You want to keep distinct populations as separate from each other as possible.

Is your only argument shout cuck to everything?

>rootless, borderless
>multicultural state
literally none of these things.
>wanting to have your own borders
>insisting on your roots
>insisting on your culture and making foreigners assimilate to it
I don't see the issue with this.

¡Hombre! Es obvio que es mulata; sólo observe las facciones (la nariz, sobre todo) y lo verá.

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why you re so keen on cucking us ?

the real problem is that is a fucking joke, 5 years ago with no crisis
lavanguardia.com/politica/20110911/54214522987/miles-de-personas-se-manifiestan-con-motivo-de-la-diada-por-el-centro-de-barcelona.html
one year later after they don't get what they want with Rajoy
lavanguardia.com/politica/20120911/54349943522/diada-manifestacion-independencia-catalunya.html
And that's ur real problem

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maria_Pita

So do you Spanish hate Brits retiring into your country?

facepalm

what part of
>at least
do you not get? Why do spaniards always do this shit?
>X is bad but at least not as bad as Y
>"DURR BUT X IS BAD WHY DO YOU WANT X"
>I didn't say I want it it's just that the alternative is Y and Y is worse
>"DURRRRRRRR BUT I DON'T WANT NEITHER WHY CAN'T THINGS BE LIKE I WANT REEEEEEEE"

Yes.

cucktalonia is the sweden of spain

Why Mr Spanish man.

Vote Podemos are you racist sexist or something like that xDDDD SOCIALISM CAN MAKE CARS!

nahh we got like 700k of old brits cause free healthcare they r fugly but is ok

to make you white again

well DUH
the only reason why catalans want independence is because they're getting screwed bigtime by the government. Why is this so hard to grasp for nationalists? Everyone knows that all other spaniards hate catalans, and everyone knows that since PPSOE can't get votes in Catalonia they have no incentive for doing anything for the catalans so they just shit on them to get votes elsewhere. That's the whole fucking problem. Catalonia was ok even with Aznar because he needed catalan support in congress so he made all kinds of concessions.

You are the largest group of immigrants in Spain, brits committed many crimes and you belive better than us, it is normal us hate brits.

>They were fucked by castillians.
Dont they teach the iberian Wedding in history class?

Hey amigos. This image is from 2012, but I'm just wondering, has the situation improved at all? Why was/is it so bad? What do young people in Spain even do? Isn't anybody upset about how this?

but I love u pantumaker

You write as if we were special autistic magic people. The whole world wants things to turn out in the same way as they planned it out in their heads, and since it never happens like this, we all go REEEEEE when our plans fail.

Yes. It's frustrating, sometimes I even feel like a foreginer in my own land. We are a minority and there are people wanting more refugees and immigrants

For them, teaching catalan and showing the children cultural stuff is indoctrination. It seems that they prefer Franco methods. Depending on the zone, children and teachers are more nationalist, but this is fucking obvious.

racist

>52%
But... THE SOCIALSM WORK GUYS!! WE NEED MORE TAXES! :DDD

>what part of
>at least
>do you not get
All of it. "At least" as an expression implies that 70 IQ subsaharan niggers "integrating" and mixing with your population is somehow better than those same 70 IQ niggers never integrating and the Catalonian natives developing nigger fatigue and a healthy sense of their own people. Clearly the latter is better.

Don"t come to Spain.

52%?!! THAT MEANS WE HAVE A 48% OF NEONAZIS!!!

>What is sucession war
>Decretos de Nueva Planta del Reino de Aragón

>Socialism
>PP

estupid jew-red cuck, i am proud aryan of 188 kg dropout and as 1000% pure germanic i ask to stop bein cuck beacause cuck and jew cucked cuck

i dont have a gurlfreind :(
the anglos got cucked by the emu species and now they re trying rob our womin

I will come to Spain and start a movement for Spanish women to welcome more Brits into the country

unironically kill yourself

>52% taxes to the work
>Liberal

Oh, yes. We need a 100%

Same to you retard. I have family in Catalonia and I worry about the future of their kids.

There no socialist in Spain since the civil war m8

>Most of our budget is related to social spending.
>It is not socialism.

[COLAPSEFAG] Detected.

Only source of employment is Tourism, most young people study in university and then find that their memedegrees are worthless.

*teleports in from NJ/pol/*

>Spain

*teleports back*

100% of taxes for give my money to the moors when m8?

Bait.

>NOTHING MUST CHANGE
>EVEN THOUGH IT'S ALL GOING TO SHIT
>CHANGE IS ALWAYS BAD
ok Sheldon Cooper whatever you say you autistic piece of shit

Also the best way to land a job is through connections.

DELET

So is the unemployment rate counting people that are in university and aren't necessarily trying to get a job? Or do those 52% of people under 25 want a job, but can't find one?

>still trying to push the COLAPSE meme
>not even spelling it properly
vergüenza ajena/10

Of course taxes are capitalist, they are to pay the armies to kill bad workes stupid slave

>Fighting for American backed dogs who attack victims of American imperialism
fag

our goverment tries to keep people studying up to moar than 25 years old, people tend to have 2 careers now

You hire someone must pay 2000 euros and 1000 of them takes the state? The most people hire, but don"t pay taxes because they are unaffordable.

Olá, eu pensei que a galiza fosse comunista imagem relacionada

I like colapse meme

>made up bullshit: The post

I like colapse meme

I like colapse meme

Better than nothing, also American actually fuck with them and let the turk invade their territory, they are doomed

My point is that "change" is worthless if you don't even get rid of the reasons why everything is going to shit to begin with. Unrestricted immigration happens to be one of those reasons and saying "b-b-but at least they'll assimilate" is nothing but a band-aid and you know it. It's not even a band-aid actually because not wasting time and money on integrating them would be the better option.

Why aren't you Hombres speaking Espanol in this thread?

>So is the unemployment rate counting people that are in university and aren't necessarily trying to get a job?
Definitely not, many of those students would not be able to find a job if they tried, university is used that way to soft the unemployment statistics.
Also a lot of people are working without a contract.

Here you have it user, it's all yours.

He died in 2014 by the way

GUYS!!! I HEAR A FEMINST DON"T HAVE A FERRARI!! WE NEED MORE TAXES TO FIGTH SEXISM!!

MORE TAXEEEEEEEEEES

>a jiwwer
>doing any physical work

Is that little bird good for domestication? If not then it should be good in the plate.

You know it's true.

¿have you ever work?

[COLAPSE]

We dislike any kind of government, that´s all. Galicia is kinda libertarian tbqfh famalamadindong.

Don't talk to me or my Galicia ever again.

The reason everything is going to shit is the spanish government.
Independence gets rid of that.
Problem solved.
But hey, keep deluding yourself that a handful of moors is worse than the imminent economic collapse of spain when the pension fund runs out.
>Friendly reminder that Spain has accepted literally just 200 rapefugees which is next to nothing

[COLAPSE]

[COLAPSE]

luckily for the aussies it lived far away from them, in madagascar, but blondes still love their eggs

I don't see any problem

[COLAPSE]

I have better because i made rosters and i know that is bullshit

TKP+Zapatistas+Naxalites>YPG

>American actually fuck with them and let the turk invade their territory, they are doomed
Yeah just like every other American puppet.

blog.iese.edu/martinezabascal/2014/03/12/seguridad-social-cuanto-pagamos-realmente/

Social security is a bit under 25% you fucking tard. All in all taxes is less than 30%.

>Colapsefag post deleted

How is it possible that Spain avoid the collapse? We are fucking socialists, we have less economic freedom are African countries and the level of third world countries like Jamaica.

They won't understand a word you say.

youtube.com/watch?v=Wj02ZyUDDXM

Y no empecéis con la mierda de que esta fuente es fascista porque pone a parir a todos los partidos por igual, solo deja bastante claro que de la recaudación total que produce la actividad económica del trabajo por cuenta propia tu recibes... En fin, una cantidad ridícula.

hablo español

Please last time I visited my relatives last year in Granollers there were entire neighborhoods filled with nothing but niggers and muslims. It wasn't always like this, I know because I've been visiting them for over 2 decades now. I think I'm gonna trust my lying eyes on this one.

I'm just telling you to be more careful when you sweep big problems under the floor.

>stop building useless AVEs
>close all deficitary airports
>tolls on all highways
There I've saved you like 6bn already.

How are there not riots? How can so many young not be able to find work? Do they not care?

I'm from a flyover state in the US and you can basically walk into any store and get an entry level job, and you'll work your way up from there, from like age 16 and up. I can't even imagine half of the countries' young people not being able to get a job.

Really neger? You know what Galicia I speaked about.
I sincerely hope that every communist party get destroyed and ever party who sucks (((theire ))) cock too.

You can have this valencian qt

>I'm just telling you to be more careful when you sweep big problems under the floor.
>says the guy thinking immigration is a bigger problem than a government which is destroying the country's economy
know your shit pham.

I give her a quick one desu

It's common knowledge that she's a dyke.

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What have you done you fool, now you will understand reggaeton lyrics and annoying south american telenovela accent.

Zapatistas are stagnate and the narcos have more power
The naxalites are weaker every year and has most of his recruits are from the tribes so they are stuck in a single zone without any advance
I couldn`t find any kind of violent organization about tkp
and more important nobody in that list accept foreigner, well except the Zapatistas but no for warfare

Hey Spain Bros, do you understand Portuguese Speaked and/or righted? Tell me your first language please.
Just for curiosity

Quite well. Catalan

M'entens si et parlo en català, gitano atlàntic? És broma, t'estimo Alberto. Hauríem d'envair Castella junts.

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first you talk about worker rent and second the video is wrong, if the iva devengado is higher than the iva repercutido you can get money from the state

Post your politician waifu

Who are you voting for? I heard that Otegi finally got cucked out of the elections, but is Sortu or whatever his party is called now running a replacement or they give us an early Christmas present and an hero?

>Tell me your first language please.
Galician. I can understand your written much better than your spoken. I also understand Brazilian Portuguese better for some reason.

Eu entendi parte, a mensagem em português serial assim:

Entenda-me se eu falar em Catalão cigano Atlântico ? Brincadeira, eu te amo Alberto . Devemos invadir Castela juntos.

jew faced, is daat a jewess ?

Her lastname is Levy. Make a wild guess goy!

The only thing I didn't understand is Brincadeira

i select the yes option

Would do you mean, user?

Brincar = to play/ joke
In your message it was with joke intention

In the final of this →It should be seria , not serial, it was the autocorrector
Seria = would be

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what are your thoughts on gingers ?

In what extent do you understand galician speakers?

Everyone knows Andalusians are the niggers of Spain
My grandparents from Asturias says Andalucíans are gypsies

I hope that both your languages never go extinct.
Don't get fooled by those (((separatists))) they promise independence but you would still in the same conditions, please see this

m.youtube.com/watch?v=-Yt7bV3rjtg

ginger girls are cute. But the males have no soul.

why females yes and males dont ?

50/50 at least, depending on the region, some regions speak almost identical to Portuguese as if it was a dialect but with a certain rithm that I don't ear in my language.
Sometimes is more difficult to understand some Galicians that speak like machine guns instead of the Galician/Portuguese rhythm and they speak with a big castillan pronunciation

kek, I know the uploader from a forum and he is a mess. I would be ok with spain if they were truly spanish nationalists, not castilian.

I'm going to sleep, buenas noches/nit/noites everybody

Written: 95%
Spoken: slow down pls

Castilian is my native language.

This is me, mate. Spain is glorious because of the regions. I'm Castilian, but the martyr of Trafalgar, Admiral Churruca, is my hero.

Cheers from a compatriot who hopes to return to the fatherland soon.

Adeus, vou dormir também
Bye, I go to sleep

Buenas noches, hermano luso.

Question, why are Spaniards so culturally lazy?

Second thing, why are Spaniards so difficult to make out. For example, its easy to make out a French person, or see somebody and know they're English. But for the Spanish its different, a friend of mine, he's half Spanish, green eyes, white, gingerish (He's English/Scottish on his fathers side), yet his Mother who's completely Spanish, speaks Spanish, and whos parents come from Spain, is also blue eyed and white.

Marly best tapas, if you dont go there I will kill you

I think there's an ancestral attitude of 'God will provide' which has been replaced with 'the gubmint will provide'.

And that's because we're white. During and after the Reconquista, Northerners were encouraged to settle in the south. This is why you have Andalusians with Basque surnames. Also, there is an expression to that goes 'ancha es Castilla' (Castile is broad), which implies one can do as one pleases; Castile, having been virtually empty, was the place for people to do whatever shit they wanted.

Maybe it's because I'm Anglo through and through, and as an Anglo my view of the Spanish historically and culturally is this, Spanish people are Moorish catholic converts who do nothing all day our navy is better then yours

But desu, I've always found Spain to be an incredible place, though I don't know much about it. After I read For whom the bell tolls by Hemingway I had this really romantic sense about Spain, I should really study it sometime.

We aren't Moors. Black Legend reeeeeeeeee

But yes, it's an interesting place. As a Spaniard, I'm ashamed of our flaws but I hope to be able to correct them.

>Black Legend

I searched this up and this is probably explains why the Anglo World thinks the Spanish are evil made flesh, holy crap there's a word for it lol

Yes. Anglo-Dutch world, really. You could count in most of Protestant Europe.

Frankly, we don't understand each other which is a shame.

Yeah, every child knows about The Spanish Armadas defeat by the English, at least in my country. This shit is so culturally rooted and I haven't really taken note of it until this thread.

There was a Counter-Armada btw