Trump is a pedo

Is it true guys? Is our God Emperor a child diddler?

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that's sarcasm you fucking dolt

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There is literally nothing wrong with pedophilia

Prove me wrong.

Honestly, i wouldnt even care if he was. I will follow Donald Trump into hell at this point.

Epstein isn't rumored to be a child didler. He is rumored to like teenage girls.

Why wouldn't our guy be a pedo? Are you guys not? WTF

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Will you be ok if i were to fiddle with your children?

Depends on who you are as a person.
Whether she's 12, 25, or 45, my daughter will know that she may only proceed in a relationship if I give it my approval. If I could tell you weren't a bad person and she was genuinely interested, then you'd have my blessing.

>yfw this post was also from CTR

>mfw I just want Donald to make America great again but if I think something someone else doesn't agree with then I'm a Hillshill

Only i can fiddle my children.

Yep, get your rumors right, OP. Epstein is rumored to have prostitutes on his plane, some of which are rumored to be under 18. There are no rumors or serious accusations that he or any of his friends fucked children. People say they fucked 15-17 year olds. This isn't close to the same as pedophilia.

>fucked 15-17 year olds. This isn't close to the same as pedophilia.
Semantically it is not. Legally, it is. 1 minute old to 17 years 364 days 23 hours and 59 minutes old, it's all pedophilia in the eyes of the law.
It shouldn't be that way. But it is.
(Of course this differs on jurisdiction, but it's at least universal in pornography which is another glaring double standard).

No. It isn't. Statutory rape is not the same as child molestation. Groping a child is more serious than fucking a 17 year old.

You are mostly right about pornography, but it definitely isn't treated as seriously. There have been 17 year olds in porn. Everyone who bought a Tracey Lords tape wasn't thrown in prison.

You need to be aware of the fact that she was a minor for you to be brought up on cp charges

I don't think this is true.

Yeah that doesn't seem right, I feel like it'd fall under "Ignorance of the law is no excuse" (Unless you're Hillary Clinton)

I should add the fucking a 17 year old is legal almost everywhere except for a portion of US states. The rumors about Epstein deal with the legalities of a plane, and while he may have gotten away with something others would not have, fucking a 16 year old prostitute is pretty low on my give a fuck meter.

It is true. I think what you guys are getting hung up on is the idea that
>ignorance of the law is ko excuse.
But that is not what the defense is. The defense is that you had no INTENT to break the law. Like if someone put cocaine in a salt shaker and you accidently ingested cocaine, you would not be liable because yoi had no INTENT to break the law. In our judicial system there needs to be intent to break a law for you to get charged.

you mean Biden, right?

It'd be interesting to see if, assuming it's true, if they would be able to charge him depending on which states he flew over, and if there would be a child trafficking charge for each individual state he flew over. That's something I've never looked into.

If you're super rich though, why not just buy a plane and a carrier ship, have the ship in international waters and not fuck the children until you land on the ship?

>you had no INTENT to break the law.
I have read that, when dealing with CP, it is possible to drop charges as long as 3 things are done ONCE you know it's CP (1) Report the source of the CP to the authorities (2) Delete/Destroy the CP and (3)......I forget what 3 was.
>There needs to be intent
This is not true until recently, it's literally why I made the Hillary Clinton joke. Many people are punished for crimes that they had no intent to commit; There are a lot of people who are sex offenders because they ASSUMED a 17 year old was 21 (Even may have been lied to by the person) and then it got found out and they were charged statutory.

>There are a lot of people who are sex offenders because they ASSUMED a 17 year old was 21
You would have to provide a source, because as long as reasonable doubt exists, you could not be charged with a crime there.

Another way to understand it is this
>user goes to hire a prostitute
>the prostitute is actually a cop
>the prostitute looks 18+ and never says anything about her being a minor
>when the cops arrest him, they can charge him for intent to solicite a prostitute, but they cant later turn around and say: Our agent was actually 14 so you are a pedophile now!

It's not necessary a particular source of a real case, but

>For example, those charged with statutory rape commonly assert that they didn’t know their partner wasn’t old enough to consent. In this situation, the defendant isn’t arguing mistake of law (that he didn’t know having sex with a minor was illegal), but rather, mistake of fact (that he didn’t know how old his sexual partner was). Mistake of fact is often a viable defense to criminal charges, but in most states it’s not when statutory rape is involved

nolo.com/legal-encyclopedia/can-i-convicted-crime-i-didn-t-realize-i-illegal.html

I'm sure if I looked at the news over the course of a few weeks a couple of incidents would pop up.

>There is a very interesting controversy brewing in Orange County, Florida. A 13-year-old girl Alisha Dean has a MySpace page that portrays herself as a 19-year-old divorced woman. She has been accused about lying to two men — Morris Williams, 22, and Darwin Mills, 24, about her age in two separate incidents. Both have been convicted and sent to jail for statutory rape — regardless of whether the older looking girl deceived them.
jonathanturley.org/2008/06/01/13-year-old-girl-reportedly-lies-about-age-leading-to-statutory-rape-conviction-twice/

That is an interesting case. However i think it would be easily overturned if enough attention was brought to it, because those men had reasonable doubt on their side, assuming she did not actually LOOK like a 13 year old girl.

>interesting
Not really. This stuff is pretty typical. I may not have myriad examples at hand, but most people recognize this as one of those "Open and closed case, Johnson!" situations.

And, In my opinion, it's pretty fucking wrong.

I went to school with a kid who, when he was 18, fucked a 12 year old, and everyone ranging from the students to the teachers basically agreed "Hope they throw the book at him, he should serve life" "They should castrate him" "I hope they kill him", etc. I had a few classes with the kid, IMO he was a sad excuse of a person who had a lot of problems (He literally huffed markers and glue in class, always told dead baby jokes, probably would have shot up the school if he didn't end up in jail).

It's just one of those topics where if, someone, anyone, ends up on the wrong side of the situation, your ass is FUCKED. Me personally, In an idealistic world, every situation is unique and there should be time and energy spent figuring out exactly what happened, and not just throwing the book at someone if they end up accused of something that everyone has been conditioned to believe is worse than the holocaust.

>I went to school with a kid who, when he was 18, fucked a 12 year old, and everyone ranging from the students to the teachers basically agreed "Hope they throw the book at him, he should serve life"
Well that definitely is pretty sad

It actually was sad. As I said, kid was a drug addict, degenerate, but you could tell deep down he just needed some fucking help. Whether he had some screws loose, maybe was molested, whatever, something was wrong with him. I can recall so many days that he'd just break down and cry in class, quietly, just put his head on the desk and cried, no one gave a fuck. I tried to be nice to him but he was one of those distant people that didn't let people in.

I was a pretty objective kid back then, didn't really buy into hype and rumor, and when my (this shit blew my fucking mind) teacher was talking to students (during class, literally preaching) "He had sex with a 12 year old, she can't even have children now because he ruined her insides, he was pure evil" (literally verbatim) and letting the kids talk about it, then, after class, I ask her "So he, what, destroyed her uterus or something?" responds "Well, I'm not sure, but a 12 year old isn't sexually mature so I'm sure it really messed up her body" and I'm just dumbfounded looking at her like "You just turned your class into an angry mob ready for vengeance, and...the shit you said was a fucking assumption?

I've never been called for Jury Duty, but I'd gladly oblige, and I'd probably be one of those assholes that is the only one who wants to objectively sit down and look at facts instead of just trying to GTFO asap

Biden quit projecting.

Damn, you are breaking my heart bro.

Eh no reason to have your heart broken. But for me it's one of those anecdotes that shaped me as a person and made me realize I despise normies.
I never actually looked at the arrest record (I live in Florida and our arrest records are public domain), and I won't be releasing his personal information on here, but I heard he got 25 years.