Brits, you can try blocking our EU army, but as always

Haha you can't seriously delude yourself into thinking this EU army is going to work for YOUR interests, right you stupid fuck...... ???

So much butthurt you have to combine your third world forces to even match ours

Wtf, i want to join the european army now

The British could get sucked in because they haven't technically left yet, you dumbass.

Also France doesn't want to be involved either so good luck with your 'army' comprised of you and... I dunno, Greece?

>The British could get sucked in because they haven't technically left yet, you dumbass.
As long as we are still there we will veto it.

We would not commit to it anyway.

Let me guess, these forces will consist of large numbers of unemployed new arrivals? And they will be arming them?

>Haha you can't seriously delude yourself into thinking this EU army is going to work for YOUR interests

Yes, the EU army will work in our interest. Currently, the only two countries actually expending money in foreign countries to fight Islamists are France and Germany. Combining all militaries of the EU will allow us to use other countries' equipment, soldiers and budgets to fight abroad.

"What is that, your country won't bow to the order of the dear chairmen of Brussels? No Problem. We will just send off your own people's army away and send in foreigners to shoot and occupy you until you comply. It's all just to protect your best interests you stupid goyim."

>EU army
Why would you need it, you've been already invaded successfully

>So much butthurt you have to combine your third world forces to even match ours

The UK has the 10th largest military in Europe after Russia, Ukraine, Turkey, Greece, France, Bulgaria, Portugal, Germany and Israel.

How is the UK even relevant in Europe?

damn this is a beautiful flag
>would fight for/10

>The British could get sucked in because they haven't technically left yet, you dumbass.
Bullshit. We would specify that the Nigels aren't part of the EU military.
Brits are just butthurt for no reason. I hope the EU gives them fuck nothing in the negotiations on Brexit which will start in February.

>As long as we are still there we will veto it.
You cannot veto it anyway. We will just build up our EU military on an intergovernmental basis and then move the whole structure into the EU once you left.

Do you guys even get paid for shilling?

Giving control over your military to some abstract international organisation is about the stupidest thing you can do. Empires fell by doing such dumb moves.
And even we Germans should know better. Does Wallenstein ring a bell?

Literally army of cucks

>Giving control over your military to some abstract international organisation is about the stupidest thing you can do.

Exactly, this is why we need to abandon NATO and go for our own EU army.

Before you Brexit u should've gassed these mirherfvcjers parasites

>Ukraine
>Greece
>Bulgaria
>Portugal
Ok, source of this bullshit. Get your fact straight Soros cuck.
>France
>UK
>Germanistan
>Italy
>Poland
>Spain
>Greece
>Ukraine
>Czech Rep.
>Switzeland
globalfirepower.com/countries-listing-europe.asp

Heh. two years ago, Eu army was just a conspiracy theory.

>You cannot veto it anyway.
We already have, that's why you started this salty thread.

None of you lot pay your way in NATO - did you seriously expect Britain and France to support the rest of you sponging weasels?

An EU army will now be reliant of France, I can't see them being happy with this?

I'm a brexiter and even I'd fight for that flag if I were you.

This is great since it just proves the Brexit side right. We weren't scaremongering when we said they'd be an EU army.

>mfw EUcuck army gets absolutely BTFO trying to cross the English channel

final nail in EU's coffin 2bh lads

nigga the British army was like 3.5 million in total, and Germany's army had like a total of 13 million, and ur shit country still couldn't take that little island

Also if we had alliance UK and V4 against EU cuck we could win this. I want to see this.

for got to mention that was from ww2

NATO is an voluntary international alliance. We don't have to give away control of our army to be part of it.

With an EU army this is completely different. Who decides when and where it gets sent to? I don't want German troops to be sent into fucking Africa because France goes about >muh French Commonwealth or fight against Russia because some EE get uppity with such a force at their disposal.
It's probably not compatible with our Grundgesetz, but then nobody gives a shit about that anymore anyways.

forgot*
fug me, time for bed

Calling us parasite.

Everyone else in the EU is butthurt they no longer have our financial contribution

Before the Brexit this was dismissed as a Leave conspiracy theory.

>you will fail
because Germany won both world wars right?

I don't want to fight in your civil war also. We will rather use it.

>Germany loses two world wars
>Finally realizes that it just can't conquer and hold Europe through force
>Tricks all of the other countries into submitting to them through the EU
>Germany can now build an army and just call it the EU army while using it for German interests
>All under the guise of "protecting the EU"

Fourth Reich and WWIII incoming.

nice time quads

people rarely acknowledge time quads

Ironically the French have probably fought the most successful western led COIN wars in Africa, which isn't saying much but should be noted. Only problem is them taking said shitskins in.

>Implying you won't be conscripted to free Hungary from its lack of progressivism.

Too many newfags lad.

I'm ok with that.
Just keep your dirty slavfingers away from industry and infrastructure after you invaded. We're much better at this.

I wonder if those cucks expect the military to swear allegiance to the EU

Of course they do. They also want to fuse all the countries in the EU into a single super-state.

Hey, if it wasn't us, it would only be someone else.

Just face facts Germany, you're NEVER going to run all of Europe. Get over it ffs.

I'm joking a little bit my German friend but seriously do somethink with your gov. Europe have two enemies, muslim immigration and Russia. And you're sucking cocks of both.

What are time quads?

They almost did, the entire continent was grabbed by the balls economically from the same organization meant to contain and limit German industry and financial dominance, then they fucked it up with niggers. Heavens knows why.

>A treaty army
>You union's army
You can easier back out of NATO obligations than you can your EU army once your union gets more power

Holy shit, it's like you guys want to roleplay United States 1790-1865. You will lose your national sovereignties and much of your cultural identities once you give your union more power. You're giving them a military to impose whatever they wish on you, you dumb fucks. They've overstepped their bounds many times in the past but were told to fuck off because they had nothing to back their demands up. Now they will, and you're supporting giving it to them.

Get fucked, Hans. As if anyone is scared of France's army.

>We already have, that's why you started this salty thread.

The whole "veto" thing doesn't work. The EU cannot tell the UK to stop talking to Australia and to stop negotiating international trade deals... and the UK cannot tell the EU to stop implementing an EU army.

It is all nonsense. But it is funny to discuss it, as Nigels get hugely butthurt as they see how completely fucking irrelevant they are.

nevermind, just figured it out

>This is great since it just proves the Brexit side right. We weren't scaremongering when we said they'd be an EU army.

Whoever said the Brexit side was wrong? The Brexit side was right about migration, the EU army, ever closer together and even the 350 million a week.

It is not about whether the Brexit side was wrong or right, it is about Nigels being butthurt because the Brexit side was right.

I would be more worried by that if the EU showed at least some level of competence

Germany doesn't have an army. You're still occupied.

>>mfw EUcuck army gets absolutely BTFO trying to cross the English channel

1.5 million soldiers in the EU military, 160k in the UK military.

Plus, why in the world would we want to invade Britistan? It is full of Pakis and Poo in the Loos with Chicken Tikka being the national dish and Muhammed being the most common name for boys AND girls.

>NATO is an voluntary international alliance. We don't have to give away control of our army to be part of it.

And yet we had to send soldiers to Afghanistan because "muuhhhh, great NATO partners screw up". Afghanistan is 50% controlled by the Taliban right now. Millions of them come to Europe as illegals. Great job NATO, you really screwed it up.

I know Polebro.

I'm sure we can keep Russia in check. They have the GDP of Italy and their military is mostly old and rotten. Their only advantage is their huge arsenal of nukes.
In all honesty, I wouldn't even mind if the armies of Northern Europe would cooperate closer and have regular common maneuvers and compatible technology/command structure.
But an enemy within is much more dangerous. At the moment immigration and low brithrates is what is weakening Europe the most. Also weak economy in the south, but that's another matter.

>>Tricks all of the other countries into submitting to them through the EU

There is no trickery, Burger. We pay other countries.

An army of surrender monkeys, experts at losing world wars, cuck Swedes and third world manlets will really challenge Anglo hegemony...

>why in the world would we want to invade Britistan?
Exactly. The purpose of the EU army will be to act as a buffer and give time for the UK to prepare while Russia conquers Europe. When the EU is conquered, Britain will already be settled in and armoured up.

Russia
Turkey
Ukraine
Israel

European? Wtf germong.

Because everyone laughed and "hurr tinfoil" when the formation of the EU army was mentioned, especially when mentioned by those in support of Britain's departure from the EU.

And now it's come out and everyone's acting like people weren't laughed at for being tinfoil when warning about it.

>They also want to fuse all the countries in the EU into a single super-state.

Which makes a lot of sense. One common language - German, one common flag - the blue star spangled banner, one common anthem - ode to joy by Beethoven and Schiller, one common main battle tank - the Leopard 2, one common capital - Berlin, one common currency - the Reichs-Euro, one common leader - the LEADER.

German army used broomsticks instead of guns during training

A German battalion assigned to Nato's rapid response force used broomstick handles instead of guns on a joint exercise due to chronic equipment shortages

telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/germany/11420627/German-army-used-broomsticks-instead-of-guns-during-training.html

OP GermanKEK BTFO

>you're NEVER going to run all of Europe.
We run Europe right now, Nigel.

Run it into the ground, maybe.

>You will lose your national sovereignties and much of your cultural identities once you give your union more power.
Germany not. The other countries, yes.

>Germany’s army is so under-equipped that it used broomsticks instead of machine guns

>The German army has faced a shortage of equipment for years, but the situation has recently become so precarious that some soldiers took matters into their own hands.

>On Tuesday, German broadcaster ARD revealed that German soldiers tried to hide the lack of arms by replacing heavy machine guns with broomsticks during a NATO exercise last year.

>After painting the wooden sticks black, the German soldiers swiftly attached them to the top of armored vehicles, according to a confidential army report which was leaked to ARD

washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2015/02/19/germanys-army-is-so-under-equipped-that-it-used-broomsticks-instead-of-machine-guns/

You're running it into the ground, at least.

Irrelevant? Dude, your country isn't even allowed an army and patriotism is banned. The U.K. Has always been more relevant that you...that's why you always try to dominate Europe (inferiority complex). The funny thing is it's always the Anglo who stops you...WW1, WW2 now Brexit. Your country needs a genocide. You are nothing but a stain on this continent. You should just be an Anglo colony...oh wait, you are!

>24 different languages

>thousands of years of raw local and national rivalry that has resulted in genocide, war, etc

>Some EU """"soldiers""""" will have more loyalty or goodwill towards Moscow, Bern, London, Ankara, etc than Berlin. Nu-males, bureaucrats and women on the street may feel """european""" but soldiers and officers, who's opinions actually matter, will almost certainly feel much more patriotic to their home nation

>pretty much guaranteed overall military spending across the EU will be cut because of integration. Spending will also never reach early 1900s levels because nationalism will be dead

yeah i'm not worried

France said "no" and nothing happened to them, just a little shit flinging for being a bad treaty member. Try telling your new national government's army "no" and see how that works out in comparison.

>Germany doesn't have an army. You're still occupied.

By whom? America? You are freaking kidding. The 35k US soldiers on German soil are support and logistics troops for ops in Africa and the Middle East. They fly wounded US soldiers to Germany to get treatment. That is pretty much all those people do. In case of an attack on Germany by Russia, Americans have orders to run to France immediately.

Germany 'Can't Explain' Use of Broomsticks Instead of Guns in NATO Exercise

A spokesperson for the Ministry of Defence seemed slightly perplexed at the choice of weaponry.

europe.newsweek.com/germany-cant-explain-use-broomstick-instead-guns-nato-exercise-307902?rm=eu

V4 and the UK vs the EU isn't even fair. Even with the tranny muslim converts in the Territorial Army, we could steam roll most of the EU in an afternoon.

>And yet we had to send soldiers to Afghanistan because "muuhhhh, great NATO partners screw up".
Meh
maybe you are right with that one. Would have been difficult to dodge Afghanistan.

>Afghanistan is 50% controlled by the Taliban right now. Millions of them come to Europe as illegals. Great job NATO, you really screwed it up.
But that's bullshit.
They come here because we let them in and hand out gibs galore. The Geneva Convention on Refugees states very explicitly that refugees have to relocate within their own country if it isn't in a total civil war. And even if Afghanistan were, they would have to go to neighbouring countries.
The illegal migration is our own fault and has fuckall to do with NATO.

>And now it's come out
I have reported on the EU army on here for years. It is not like the proposals were secret.

Hans wants to get conquered again it seems.

>painted them black...

Probably to deepthroat after.

Russia has no hope of winning a conventional war against europe for a varity of reasons, not least their small and still tanking GDP.

It`s an idea pitched by some eastern countries, which is supported in principle by France and Germany. However, there are many still opposed to it, and nobody is expecting it to form in the short-term. What happens in 20, 30 or 50 years is a different matter.
Or are you talking about the joint HQ, which is something completly different from an army and more than overdue considering how badly information is exchanged in the old world.

>EU
>Army

Name one country ready to die for this socialist abomination.

>Berlin will be again russian in your lifetime

>You're running it into the ground, at least.
Last I checked, our economy is doing just fine. Our debt level is low, we are prosperous.

Next time, check your facts.

And your idiotic solution is to do even MORE of this!?

Do you even listen to your own bullshit with a thinking rational mind, or are you nothing but a drone?

>Dude, your country isn't even allowed an army
And yet we have more active soldiers than the UK.

Germany is rightful Russian clay. You will become again an Oblast.

>Dem butthurt
Kek

>Try telling your new national government's army "no" and see how that works out in comparison.

Our new EU army will further German interests. Why should we say no to our own commands?

Honestly, America and Britain's biggest mistake was letting the Eternal Hun live not once, but twice.

Why didn't they learn?

But it's illegal to do the Hitler salute. And hard to buy guns. That is unless you're a taliban.

That's iff you maintain absolute German power over all the other states for long enough that their cultures become a long gone memory. The most likely scenario is that your union goes the way of Yugoslavia when people get mad about this long reach of power, the durka lurkas in the EU and enemy nations take advantage of your weakness and you bring the whole continent down with you.

UK came out ahead after Brexit, EU took a nosedive, and ever since the pro-EU apologists have been lying about it non-stop.

The EU is falling to pieces because it's a stupid fucking idea to have so many disparate cultures, who've shed blood, sweat, and tears over the course of centuries to establish their sovereignty and borders, to just suddenly give it all up because you asked them to.

Do the actual people support any of this? NO!
The only ones pushing this are the political class and their jewish owners.

Plenty of Euros wouldn't even fight for their own country.

>They come here because we let them in and hand out gibs galore.
Last I checked, we got like nearly no Afghans at all prior to 2001. They were all happy living in a Taliban controlled country. 99% want Sharia. They got it. Why the hell did America try to "bring democracy" to a backwards shit country?

the EU sure is a disgusting thing.

>Hans wants to get conquered again it seems.
We are friends with Russia. Especially Austria is big buddy with Putin. We have done our homework.

>bmComhuN
>huN
wtf

No shit. Their countries are led by fucking cucks. Europeans would sooner fight a war to hang traitors amongst them like than to fight Russia, et al, at their behest.

Gayest most diverse and useless military ever. Looking fwd to you faggots having to rely on your feminist army to protect you when we leave.

Hans are the biggest ducks that you build a monument for the soviets using the stones from your destroyed hitler chancellery

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reich_Chancellery

Heroin mostly. stupid talibs tried stopping it.

>germans
>friends with russia

spiegel.de/politik/ausland/bundesregierung-wirft-russland-luegen-vor-a-1111974.html

Bundesregierung wirft Russland Lügen vor

Das Außenministerium ärgert sich über die russische Regierung. Moskau solle aufhören, Unwahrheiten zu verbreiten, sagt Steinmeiers Sprecher. Es geht um die Nachfolge von Uno-Generalsekretär Ban.

Because traitors on the white race they are, they supported the reds so much that they took over half of europe, and became one of the two superpowers.
They backed themself into a corner and they nedded the economic power and strategical important location of germany.

>And your idiotic solution is to do even MORE of this!?
I do not think it is in the interest of Germany to invade foreign countries. As a result, an EU military would not invade foreign countries, unless they ask for our invasion.

FUCK NATO, the biggest cucksucking American Zionist invention since the UN.

>that hat

Is this a gay pride ?

I hope Germany keeps pushing for WW3. That meme country needs to be ended once and for all. Anglos, Russians, Muslims...I don't care who does it, just make sure the eternal kraut is removed permanently from history.

Except I would guarantee you that the ones that are saying no are the SJW/shitskins.

Red Army photographer Yevgeny Khaldei (center) in Berlin with Soviet forces, near the Brandenburg Gate in May of 1945.

>cuck army that will opress their own to make ingrate shitskins safe.

We will fight you hanz, youre not even nazi anymore so now theres no redeeming quality to krauts.

I thought you two were best friends?

A Soviet tank faces the badly damaged Reichstag building in Berlin where the last desperate pocket of German resistance was finally crushed.

>Because traitors on the white race they are
Yeah alright that's why you're pro EU right? haha fuck off kike

>But it's illegal to do the Hitler salute.
It is. Based on an 1945 law, America introduced to Germany - and which we cannot repeal due to a secret treaty with America.

>And hard to buy guns.
So? You can buy them if you need them for your job, for hunting, for being in a shooting club etc. As a result, we have 0.1% of your homicides with guns.

> That is unless you're a taliban.
Come on. The Taliban? In Germany? We might have Saudi wahabists and salafists, ISIS folks and Al Qaeda, but the Taliban - nope, they are freedom fighters back in Afghanistan. They don't spread. They never wanted to spread, it is not their ideology. Which makes it even funnier that the US tried to kill them.

Artillery from the Soviets begins to fall on Berlin.

I'm pretty surer OP isn't older than 18. He's the type of kid who wanks over 'EU Army' compilations on youtube and has no idea how divided europe actually is

Berets and kepis are gay as fuck

>Ivan in the background enjoying a post 'liberation' cigarette

Based.

>Russian news
Lmao are you retarded?

>UK came out ahead after Brexit, EU took a nosedive,

Germany has its best growth figures since 2008 right now. Lowest unemployment.

Soviet soldiers march into Berlin May 1945

Best friends don't ruin the house you're living in and expect you to be happy about it. Fuck Germany, England is now my bf.

What did we do to hurt your delicate feelings?

One of our countries fought together with and supported the soviets.
It wasn`t mine.

I for one, am looking forward to killing euroshits.

Anglo-Slav alliance for the third win. End the Kraut.

>Nigels get hugely butthurt as they see how completely fucking irrelevant they are.

They are not really that irrelevant when you consider the fact that our government portrays them as our closest allies (sorry, Canada). When the average American thinks of "Europe," they automatically picture the UK--seriously.

They are smart to opt out of partaking in a European Union hegemony force when they know that the USA will stand by them if they ever find themselves in deep shit and/or can opt out of any conflict the EU finds itself in.

I'm talking about the former.

It will further the interest of your leaders that hate your culture, hate it enough to flood your countries with people from relatively safe countries who are only there to bring you terror. How long is such a system suppose to last? How does it stay prosperous in the long term?

You're supporting your own destruction

>zionist invention since the U.N
>EU not run by kikes

Of course the army is not meant to be deployed outside EU, because this army is to keep europeans in check.

US Army Official shown with Red Army, shown in front of sign East Meets West symbolizing the historic meeting of the Soviet and American Armies

This

Anglo Russo Brotherhood again

>and has no idea how divided europe actually is
What would an Asian Nigel Paki know about Europe?

>Before 24th June:
"An EU army, what are you? A conspiracy theorist"

typical remainian lies

The mass rape of Germany needs to happen again. It seems the self destructive nature of the Hun hasn't been completely bred out yet.

Why would Germany want an EU army? You haven't done anything with your military in years and your current government prides itself on this.

Is this just an attempt at more bloc-building alá WWI?

Soviet soldiers march into Berlin, 1945

>Allow FRG and GDR to merge

>that our government portrays them as our closest allies

That is just because the US only has Canada, Israel and the UK as poodles. Germany and France and Japan and Korea are off doing their own things.

>Why would Germany want an EU army?

Those floors won't sweep themselves.

Description. Victorious soviet soldiers in berlin, 1945

Considering the fact that they stopped heroin and those traditional little boy fucking auctions, I really regret that we pushed them out.

>I do not think it is in the interest of Germany to invade foreign countries. As a result, an EU military would not invade foreign countries, unless they ask for our invasion.

Jesus christ you are naive.

YOU DON'T GET A CHOICE, what in the flying fuck makes you think the EU military is going to listen to a german citizen about invading foreign countries? They don't give a goddamn what you think, hans. How fucking gullible can you get?

Once the EU military exists, and your own military does not, you have NO SAY.
What happens if they decide to declare war on german civilians? They'll take romanian troops and fuck you up. Or French. Or British. The German troops will be stationed overseas and spread across units so they cannot organize or communicate with each other to form a defense or insurrection.

The same if any of the others step out of line. Once you give up your military, you give up your sovereignty, and once you've given that up you have NO SAY in what happens or is done by your politicians.

The EU military is the formalization of control over the disparate people of Europe by people who DO NOT REPRESENT YOUR INTERESTS. You are FUCKED if you let it happen.

lol, women. Biggest leaches.

Japan and Korea like us just fine. They rely on us to keep China in check.

American and Soviet soldiers meet in 1945 WWII

can see the shoops from here m80

>I'm talking about the former.
Well, Czechia and Hungary demand it (most likely because they still fear the ruskies), and Germany and France aren't really opposed to it, but there really is no reason to think that it is anything more than an idea, a possibility, at this point.

1) import several generations worth of German births of fighting age males
2) EU army
3) European Superstate using EU army

Yeah, they probably might still be there if they just grew the poppy like good boys.

Well done proving his point, Jerry.

Soviet and American soldiers share a dance upon their meet-up at the River Elbe near Torgau

Its real leaf mate

ISIS sleeper cells dont count.

Must have been thirsty work doing all that liberating.

Jews have been red-pilled all this time. They know how dangerous the kraut can be and that is why he must be bred out of existence. The Jews are doing us all a favour.

The background is real, and the foreground soldier are real, but they were not together.

You're blind if you can't see the obvious shooping desu

It was.

Pic related. soviet soldier with american soldier in liberated germany

money.cnn.com/2016/09/16/investing/deutsche-bank-us-14-billion-mortgages/

Just to put it into perspective, shares were trading at 33 just over 12 moths ago

>Last I checked, we got like nearly no Afghans at all prior to 2001.

No shit Sherlock.
We weren't complete cucks before 2001.
All this mass immigration and family reunion shit with the Turks and handing out citizenship like candy is something that happend in the last 10 years. In 2001 the public opinion was pretty fed up with the Yugo fugies back then.

>Why the hell did America try to "bring democracy" to a backwards shit country?
They wanted Bin Laden.

I'm actually laughing

Here guys

>think of the people who run and support the EU and their tolerance, refugees welcome, promotion of faggotry etc.
>now imagine those kinds of people being in charge of trying to run and be part of an army

LO fucking L

Like an army made up of the type of person that likes the EU....

The fucking Belarusans could kick its ass

>but the soldiers of European countries are pretty based and actual proper men

Yeah but they also tend to be the more nationalist anti EU types. Willing to bet most of them would leave their armies if an EU army was 100% going through

>basically see pic related for the kind of people that would be running and signing up for an EU army of multiculturalism and tolerance

Shouldn't you be teaching english, or something?

Citation needed

Brits, we Americans and the American Military will back you 100% in your upcoming war with the 4th Reich. You can count on us.

Friendly reminder that Czechia and Hungary demand an EU army.

uTy5k
Utysk.

This means non german and abomination in norwegian.

Seriously EUcucks, just try something funny with your rag tag army. As an Anglo I am itching to put you leftist degenerates in the ground. We will drop nukes on Berlin and finish what we started. The German race must be purged once and for all.

take a class on perspectives

>germcucks trying to ruin europe again

>France

Isn't that an advantage?

>I'd rather have the whole German army in front of me than a French division behind me

This is missleading. Question like this should be who do you fight against and who else is on your side. I would not fight for eu against russia even if russia would occupy is again, but i would gladly use my guns against shitskins in my homeland.

They were trading at 15 euros in 2008.

And what does some private bank headed by Anglos have to do with the Germany economy?

>doesnt provide historical source
>NO NO TAKE CLASS !!!
Leaf BTFO

The kraut must be obliterated. No mercy this time. Complete and utter eradication of the communist subhuman known as the German.

I dunno, I quite liked the uniforms of our Airborne in WWII.

I miss big coats and cloth during war.

wew

You cant possible that delusional

This, if leftist German cucks want to ruin Europe I will help destroy them. Fuck giving muslim refugees direct access to military equipment.

>YOU DON'T GET A CHOICE, what in the flying fuck makes you think the EU military is going to listen to a german citizen about invading foreign countries?

Considering Germany is the EU and we call the shots, and we have proven for decades, that we hate wars of aggression, yes, Germany would not allow the EU military to continue being America's backup forces for America's wars of aggression.

Why do you even want an EU army? Unless you plan on spending more on defense this is a pointless exercise.

...

>for no reason

EU army would be absolute garbage. NATO is better protection.

>You cant possible that delusional

Explain.

Are you saying Bank Austria, owned by Italians (Unicredit) is a measure of how good Austria does?

if the US and brits say to jump, you ask how high.

I don't get why people would oppose an EU army.

Seriously, why?

The EU economy isn't as rosy as you think it is.

You seriously come across as some ill-informed teenage or barely-twenties who's slurped up every last bit of propaganda pumped out by mainstream media.

You believe in literal fantasies and fairy tales. You're delusional about the way the world really works. I'm frankly surprised you're here instead of celebrating diversity with antifa

>Why do you even want an EU army?
In order to control the EU and Europe better. In order to protect the EU borders better.

>Unless you plan on spending more on defense this is a pointless exercise.
Actually, you can cut down on size from 1.5 million now to 1 million and can stop NATO missions abroad to back up American imperialism.

I don't fucking care whether ISIS takes over the Middle East or about Somalia or Pakistan or Afghanistan. We should leave these shitholes alone. As long as we have big fences and walls at the EU borders, we will be fine.

false stat. you have the same gun homicide rate as white Americans. The US has a suicide problem, then a Nigger problem, then an illegal problem, then a Muslim problem. All of which Germans are creaming themselves at the thought of replicating.

An EU military is a terrible idea. It will be stuck in perpetual uselessness. You'll never get internal agreement across the board for any military action which will just cause further fracturing when an issue arise which needs addressing. Will be as much of a shit show as what the migrant crises is.

Canada would be occupied by german tanks with broomsticks alone.

The French have the second best Navy and maybe military in Europe, danm near the only one that spends anywhere near the NATO 'requirement' no one else but Briton does

>if the US and brits say to jump, you ask how high.
When? In Iraq when we refused to participate? In Libya, when we refused to participate? In Afghanistan, when we refused to participate in the actual fighitng? In Syria, when we refused to participate in bombing runs?

You got plenty of commies yourself there Vandyke, the germs might be dumb with this move but when it comes to commies, antifa and jews...you shouldnt throw stones in a glass house

I want off this ride. This continent is sleepwalking towards another war and yet again it's the fucking German leading us there.

Just nuke Brussels and Berlin and everyone will be happy. Split Germany up they don't deserve to be a country of their own.

Ghana and the Philippines couldn't love you more.

>EU
>promotes flooding your countries with shitskin hordes
>motto literally has diversity in it
>any German who wants Germany to remain German and not become brown is evil and needs to be imprisoned
>yes this army run by the very people who want to destroy our race is very much in our favour

How dumb are you Goytschland?

You do realize this is because (((they))) don't want you to be able to fight back against them when you realize what they are doing? That they are destroying your race forever

>hey German soldiers wouldn't fire on Germans if they decided to resist us and we ordered them to fire
>what do we do?
>make one giant EU army. Fill it with the peaceful migrants and gay Muslim transgenders who have no loyalty to the countries and hate the white people living in them and want to see the dead anyways

mass immigration, lots of people are unemployed, how to solve, build and EU army and work towards a superstate eradicating all native Europeans.

The only country in the EU still spending fucking anything on defence is France, and the only other country capable of doing so is Germany, who isn't going to.

Good luck.

hey russia, britain, sounds like we need to reenact WWII here and slap germany and their minions shit, hell we even need to free countries too inept to control themselves once again from the god damn antifanazis.
first one to conquer berlin gets everyones natural resources.

Im saying if Bank Austria crashed today it wouldnt be "lol who cares" for the austrian economy, same with your deutsche Bank. You cant possibly think it crashing wouldnt influence you at all.

>The EU economy isn't as rosy as you think it is.
Who said anything about the eU? I am talking about Germany which is the only country I care about.

This

>based Ivan making a sad truth into a funny joke

lol
>we hate wars of aggression
did you forget ww1 and 2?

you're trying to start ww3 again as usual.

your countrymen invited ((((Syrian refugees)))) en masse into Europe. your countrymen indeed called the shots on many absolutely anti West actions, and now you are pissed off when the UK wants to leave and your reaction is to attempt to create an EU army.

an army that would be so slow and inefficient just because people don't want to play ball with you anymore.

everyone is sick of your shit and Germany deserves everything it gets.

>Thinking an EU army is a good idea
>Not expecting soldiers from different countries to hate and sabotage each other

Those suits in Brussels are out of touch with reality. I will never fight alongside a Frenchman. I'd rather beat him until he surrenders.

This is to the uninformed, unwashed masses that still think that they have any right to have an opinion: You don`t. You are the reason the elites do what they want, you are the reason democracy in western countries is going down the shitter, and you are the reason why Europe is slowly sinking into irrelevancy.

Case in point: An european army is as much an german idea as the euro was: Not at all.
But sure, go on and blame us to make yourself feel better, just don't cry here after they did their shit regardless because you were to lazy and stupid to actually grasp whats going on so that you can do something about it.

Oh no, the "most dangerous bank in the world" is doing bad. Who could have expected that?

Difference is the Netherlands isn't exporting our fifth column across an entire continent. Germany is in their deranged genetic need to subjugate other white people.

Kill the kraut!

>having this much no clue.
>what are multiple fronts
>what is Battle of Britain.

>false stat. you have the same gun homicide rate as white Americans.
wrong

You just accepted 2million young recruitment age Muslim men and want to turn them into eligible soldiers through citizenship. What could possibly go wrong with giving millions of war refugees access to higher quality military equipment in such vast numbers that they would outnumber Germans immediately. Is everyone in Germany this God damn stupid?

Im a austrian soldier not fench or Italian. Fuck off globalist fuck, Im not marching for Merkel and Rompouy

>Combining all militaries of the EU will allow us to use other countries' equipment, soldiers and budgets to fight abroad.
yuck, kill yourself faggot. You ain't using anything for your gains

because it will only profit to you as always
we have nothing to win

Read a history book you stupid Russian rape baby

Probably because it would be lead by Germany's Merkel and she hasn't made many sound decisions as of late.

>ou'll never get internal agreement across the board for any military action which will just cause further fracturing when an issue arise which needs addressing.

The whole point of the EU military is to protect the EU borders and stop fucked up foreign interventionism.

Fighting illiterate sheep shaggers in Mumbutistan is something Britbongs and Burgers love to waste time and money on. Europeans should just build a wall and/or big fences around Europe and be done with it.

>still beliving the GG is comparable to a constitution.

>Goytchland not knowing (((who))) occupies them

Good goyim. Goytchlan- I mean Germany is definitely a strong uncucked independent country.

>Polish are this delusional
It took us one whole month to conquer and subjugate you the last time. And you've only gotten shittier with time.

in afgahn war you participated in actual fight and in syria you would love to bomb the shit out of assad but you fear retaliation of russia like the duck you are

>>promotes flooding your countries with shitskin hordes
That is Greece. And Italy.

>>yes this army run by the very people who want to destroy our race is very much in our favour
We are the only country in Europe trying to protect the EU borders. We just authorized more money for it.

But your country is still pussy footing around to actually sign the leave documents.

so who's idea was it then?

As long as the Russian flag is also flying over Ottawa and the west is free of the east I will be happy

Of course eu army will serve German interests and push the (((European values))) to non cucked countries.

What happened, Germans? In less than a century you managed to go from a proud people to a bunch of insane self-loathers who want to mate with Africans and genocide themselves.

Why are there never any French people in threads like this?

France gets talked about in these articles all the time like they're this constant bulwark that always agrees with Germany, but I never actually hear French opinions.

How do I summon French? Do I post Bonaparte?

>Im saying if Bank Austria crashed today it wouldnt be "lol who cares" for the austrian economy, same with your deutsche Bank.
UniCredit and thus Bank Austria have already crashed. Don't you read the news?

Nobody cares about banks any more. They are old news. 2008 news. It would have no impact on the German economy, as Deutsche could be easily rescued these days.

>That is Greece. And Italy.
no, that is literally Germany
youtube.com/watch?v=-O8EQFbqu-8

What is the defining characteristic of a constitution?

Come on, even a retard like you should be able to answer that.

Hungary is doing that for Hingary and Germany is screaming at them and us "REEEEE NO BORDERS NO BORDERS"

Why would a german led army not be "come one come all our muslim engineer and doctor friends"?

they were always destroyers of civilisation. Look up Arminius. He was raised as Roman but backstabbed the Romans to fight them.

K-keep me posted. Let me know when you decide where to hold the preliminary meetings meeting to decide on breakfast before thinking up a shortlist on a name for this force.

>your culture and race will be destroyed
>your leaders openly want you to be minority white
>it's hate speech to even question it

Yes this temporary economic prosperity for a few people is really what matters

Your economy won't be shit when you become even 10% Muslim

>EU army

and who will pay for that shit? Get yourself a decent military first

look up the article 146

The Euro? Mostly the french. Thought they would be able to controll our economy after reunification with it.

The EU army? Czechia and Hungary are demanding it, and Germany and France are in support of it.

But Germany--and more specifically Merkel--would be leading the contemporary EU army. Obama never fucking gave a shit about Syrian refugees until your shitty leader called upon the free world to help "carry the load." Now our democratic party has made funneling Syrian refugees into our nation a center piece of their campaign.

No wonder, collectivism in any form is dead, people are on their own and they start to realize it.

okay got any source to back it up?

Yeah, what the fuck? How can you go from guys like Ernst Junger and Reinhard Heydrich to fucking horses and sex tourism to Africa to contract AIDS?

>They were trading at 15 euros in 2008.

Just after the biggest crash in nearly 100 years. Other banks have grown since then, not declined

>And what does some private bank headed by Anglos have to do with the Germany economy?

Are you 12? Deutsche bank has taken on huge dividends to prop up many european banks. The only reason italian banks haven't failed and then dragging italy under is because deutsche bank has kept them propped up. If DB goes the euro will nosedive, Italy may default and will drag the whole EU with it

its the new strategy to nuke the jews and you full damn well know this, if they can't go full gas the kikes race war now, they are gonna deny everything till they get their way, which is another shot at WWII which is exactly whats going on.
i guarantee if this "EU" reich army actually beats everybody down somehow their next target is israel and the jews will finally burn.
this is why even if america wants to go full NAU they will oppose when germany goes full 4th reich, which is really soon, since our jews will literally see another shoah on the horizon and will want to protect cousin chaim from holocaust2.0: final solution edition.

That wasn`t an answer. Are you too stupid to answer such a simple question?

I have never been as dissapointed in germans as much as now.

You jerryposters in this thread is either the worst EU shill ever or you are actually THAT naive.

some of you even think this army will protect your borders lol.

EU is gonna be crooked no matter what, giving them an army to keep them in power is fucking stupid beyond belief.

This army will be used against political dissidents, Antifa thugs will probably get officer positions to make sure hanz dont even look at a white woman.

I know math is hard but you have to subtract suicides 2/3 of US gun deaths, then divide the remaining per 100k stat by about 2.4.

Germany still comes out lower but the point is White American homicide rates fit in with other white countries. Non white population density is the #1 thing related to violent crime and homicides in the US.

If an EU army actually worked in a good fashion to protect the european nations and went about securing border controls then I would support it as something for Europe to do. I wouldnt want the British military part of it but would welcome a close alliance. I just am skeptical about its practical uses or alternatively if Brussels would over reach their authority over other nations militaries.

>it actually worked

To be fair most of our governments happily internalise the crap they export.

Though that did make Brexit particularly satisfying, if only to see so many of our politicians completely collapse under the weight of their own disassociation with the people.

It's too big to rescue user

The allies made them hate themselves so Germany couldn't rise again. It seems it has been successful. It's time for Germany and its people to fade away into history. They are the true villains of the white race.

de.wikimannia.org/Artikel_146_des_Grundgesetzes_für_die_Bundesrepublik_Deutschland

HANS BTFO

All the good Prussian blood left because they failed to protect their citizens from external powers.

>build a wall
but that's racist

you know how much Merkel loves immigrants, it would never happen.

we need to get birthrates up in order to compete on the global market with China, the cheapest way of doing that is by opening the floodgates to third worlders because they make a ton of babies regardless of income.

a wall would ruin Juncker's and Merkel's vision for a globally viable Europe.

non-german and abomination are the same world in norge?
Damn, that's cool.

Because we can't even make our common currency work and are at disarray at every other topic.
Can you imagine a common EU foreign policy? It's next to impossible to get a common foreign policy between Germany and France going.

>German interests
Top fucking kek. Goytchlanders actually believe this

See and fucking respond to Specifically:

>it will further the interest of your leaders that hate your culture, hate it enough to flood your countries with people from relatively safe countries who are only there to bring you terror. How long is such a system suppose to last? How does it stay prosperous in the long term?

>You're supporting your own destruction

Unless you're one of the faggots who actually supports the "tolerance we are all the same its good that Germany becomes brown" you should be opposed to this

kek

my opinion is that germany can go fuck itself with the brooms they use as rifles

Hans, I've discussed this with your peers and we've concluded that you need another Dresden. Worry not about your civilian populace, for we intend to target your refugee camps as well.

>an EU army will protect our borders! honest!
If there were and EU army it would have rolled into Poland months ago and overthrown the ruling party for refusing multikultism. Same with Hungary.

FUCKING GERMANS

FUCK THEM

Why is Germany so autistic? Crush it already.

fuck off i don't want to ally with you nor make a "big jewish-slave EU army"

Poor German. They still think that they will be relevant in 20 years because of the EU.

This desu. Why did we let them continue existing after WWII?

I prefer the complete Balkanisation of Continental Europe
#freeBavaria
#freeBaden
#freePomerania
#freeBrittany
#freeNormandy
#freeToulouse
etc etc etc

You are fucking delusional

Hans I know you're a very entitled man and you feel like taking people's gold after screaming things about living space is the proper thing to do, but why don't we talk about your own denbtsbank and your issue with defense spending entitlement?

You wouldn't want to lose your arms, would you Hans?

You seem to be forgetting a very very important ally the Brits have.

Get out while you can bro. There's no stopping their madness. Without you it all falls apart.

>Central Europe – Hungarian PM Viktor Orbán and Czech PM Bohuslav Sobotka are united concerning the idea of a European army. This joint army would be a protection for Europe after Brexit and so the weakened armed forces in Europe, and a protection from immigration and terrorism. Orbán said that he believes one of the reasons that migrants and people traffickers are continually trying to enter Europe is that they can see that the continent is weak. Hungarian PM and Czech PM proposed the idea of the EU army during the meeting between Merkel and the V4 leaders on Friday 26 of August.

Source is in the pic because fuck the spam filter

>constitution
>[kon-sti-too-shuh n, -tyoo-]
>1. the system of fundamental principles according to which a nation, state, corporation, or the like, is governed.
Now, that wasn`t so hard if one isn`t mentally challenged. In case you are also too stupid to tell, that is exactly what the GG does. It isn`t called one, but there is no difference from a legal point of law.

>trusting Russia
>we have done our homework
No, you don't.

So who decides where this EU army goes where and when?
The faceless unelected? Thats comforting that agendas are not known.

To be honest I couldnt care less. I'd rather have Putin and the UK with stronger ties than the EU caliphate

Balkanization might just save the German people, ironically. The rapists would never make it past an independent Bavaria

>Germany won't lose its cultural identity
But it's already starting dumbass
See pic related

>Goytchland, Goytchland is the most cucked. Most cucked and tolerant in der welt! When a pack of refugees arrive we all open up our homes! We can't wait until 2055 when we are minority white!
>Goytchland, Goytschland most cucked country most cucked country in der welt!

Actually I forgot this one:
>2. the document embodying these principles.
Just in case you are going to go into some sort of autistic rage.

I seriously dont know. Im surrounded by idiots...

if you legitimately think the EU is purely driven by anything other then german autism and insanity by this point you may want to pay more attention to the world.
merkel is clearly god-queen of the EU ruling it with an iron fist, and she still holds massive power in germany even if they try to fight against her shit for the last 8 years or so.

I guess your autistic mind doesnt understand it but your GG is only a provisory constitution, as stated in the article 146

why don't you even know your own laws?

It's a logistical nightmare top to bottom. The only support from other nations is because they can further cut military spending.

EUSSR comming soon to you!

Fuck it. I'll pack my things after finishing uni in a few years and i'm going to Australia.
Fuck you Germans!
You ruined the EU as soon as you entered it.

>Germany is screaming at them and us "REEEEE NO BORDERS NO BORDERS"
No, Austria, you are the problem. Your country is responsible for both world wars and your country is directly responsible for the flood of shit-skins in Germany.
The first thing we should do is fucking annihilate you Schluchtenscheißer faggots once and for all.

EU army is a retarded idea
It will happen at some point, that much is clear.

I assume it will be mostly used for imposing the will of the EC on the people of Europe and not for any outside conflicts.

I guess that's a good thing, ja?

>So who decides where this EU army goes where and when?
Juncker.

The entire EU, a "nation" of 650 million without the UK can't compete with the Military might of the United Kingdom, a nation of 64 million
mfw

this
we own the EU

yeah don't worry, people are really pissed off right now, even when brexit happened, even on twitter "#Frexit" was in TT, and the far right has never been so close to win

they can eat shit

>Greece and Italy promotes their countries being invaded at the hands of Brussels and Berlin vermin who don't allow them to do anything about it

fixed

and a cheeky pint to this man here!

So what's the point of NATO? Would it exist side by side? Seems like a clusterfuck

What would an EU military do about nuclear weapons? Ask france to continue to finance Nuclear weapons for basically all of The EU or cry about nuclear being bad and evil and try to get france to get rid of their arsenal? Basically an EU army would be mostly French dominated in service and use yet controlled and used by other powers in the interest of theirselves and personal political view. France would get hugely cucked in am EU army.

Don't the French usually run in the opposite direction of anything to do with war or armies?

Here's the ACTUAL american homicide rate.

Judging by the defense ministers of today's EU, fat women who have never held a gun. In all reality, we would command in a time of war, as your independent armies have already dropped bombs and supported troops for us and our wars in MENA. An "EU" army would be the final nail in the European coffin, sealing your fate as satrapies forever.

The Romans were right about the Huns.

We should have listened to the Romans.

Desu I think your politicians would betray the UK nowadays.

Hurrah

Only in hot pockets :^)
They probably recruited janitors

Just like the EU the rich pay for everyone else.

So are you actually mentally impaired, or just trolling because some german hurt your feelings once?

To make this entirely clear to you: I don`t care about the provisory part, it works like a constitution so it is a constitution from a legal point. You even called it that yourself.
Or, to rephrase it so that even you can understand it: It is comperable to a constitution, which was the only point I challenged if you go back the reply chain.

So that`s why Merkel gets none of the shit she wants from the EU anymore? Heck, Seehofer is already positioning himself to challenge her.

...

NATO is more or less a Cold War relic to contain Russian force projection. It's the west's Warsaw Pact.

Stimmt Commenda und Kern klingen weit kompetenter...

>You seem to be forgetting a very very important ally the Brits have.

Australia isn't that important, Burger.

Thank god they cant drag us into it.

EU is a shit.

when i read german posts here im reminded of hitlers speech on barbarossa about what wretched slave people marxism produces.

The irony is delicious

How about reading your own laws, you autistic hun?
Article 146 says your own constitution is provisory until your own people vote for a real constitution

I'll never understand why Germans on Cred Forums (or anyone that claims to be right-wing, for that matter) defend the EU.

>germany trying to act tough with it's dilapidated underfunded army

>To make this entirely clear to you: I don`t care about the provisory part, it works like a constitution so it is a constitution from a legal point.

Until the government of the land rips it up and cites the legal justification that it was merely provisionary.
Hell, even if it weren't I wouldn't put it past them ripping it apart once they've got the EU military formalized and all the national EU militaries are disbanded.

You pro-EU morons are thoroughly delusional. I don't know how you were brainwashed to such a degree, but you're little different from american SJW's.

Anglophere's rock solid desu

Obama? He already has.

Trump? Not a chance.

Trump's the only one that matters.

Go ahead and look up the strongest Air Forces in the world and come back Hans.

>taken on huge dividends t
I am pretty sure they haven't taken any "dividends" on whatsoever.

>to prop up many european banks.
You are mistaken the ECB and the Bundesbank, with Deutsche Bank. Deutsche Bank is a private institution, the German Fed is the Bundesbank and the ECB.

yeah look at this Hun for example he doesnt even know his own laws

well it fulfills the role of a real constitution and was just named differently to diplomatically stress the fact that Russia is occupying parts of "the real Germany".

But I would want to trigger Article 146 to give us a new, a *real* constitution. One which isn't so cucked and can be formulated in a way that allows some anschlussing.

Shes waiting for France and Germany and Netherlands elections. If she waits and France get Le Pen or Germany to get Frauke Petry or even Wilder then its checkmate because everyone know all them will gladdly screw the E.U over for us.

Képis don't look gay they're pretty based imo

>Go ahead and look up the strongest Air Forces in the world and come back Hans.
Russia isn't a British ally.

>I'll never understand why Germans on Cred Forums (or anyone that claims to be right-wing, for that matter) defend the EU.

Why would we not defend what we control?

>EU army

The only EU army that'll matter will be when France has enslaved Spain, Italy, Benelux and western Germany, and Poland take the ex-soviet block.

Then maybe, free of the interference of worthless worms unable to pay for their defense, it'll work out.

>for as long as it remains a member of the union
what is taking them so long? they were ecstatic when they "won" and now they're acting like we're forcing them out

>>germany trying to act tough with it's dilapidated underfunded army

With the Pound crashing, we actually spend more than the UK on our army.

you don't really control it

>female defense minister

So have you.

then why are you still not able to afford more than broomsticks on tanks?

Why are they always called Huns? I'm otherwise well-verses in history but it just seems like a case of perfidious Brits calling anything non-Commonwealth "eastern", even Germany.

And that`s relevant in what way to the constitutional character the GG has right now by virtue of working exactly like a constitution?
Can you even into law?

That`s not how this works.

And from where did you get the retarded idea that I am pro-EU?

Lad you are spending $20 billion less than the UK.

Except you don't control it, the global political elite controls it.

>CAN YOU EVEN
Feminist Nu-male detected

You are mad that article 146 exists

Why are german flags on Cred Forums always globalist nu-male shills ?

I want off this ride

I very much like French uniforms from WWI.

Before the Adrian helmet came in. Not that I dislike that, either.

this. honestly media is trash. Nothing but propaganda. They just throw out buzz words and then trigger preconditioned emotional response.

maybe they are proxies but i doubt it

>mfw they have 0 (zero) nuclear weapons

Hahahahahahaha

We'd blow those cucks and their pet refugees into orbit

The ride never ends my friend

Wrong again Hans

>EU army

My dick is ready. And that's not even counting the butthurt around the globe at the mere thought of this becoming reality. Fuck the pacifists. Influence grows from the barrel of a gun.
And if Trump weakens or otherwise even disbands NATO during his term or two... we might be seeing a massive geo-political change and return to more balanced centers of power.

>spending less than the UK is spending more
How much do you think brooms and black spray paint are lad?
I look forward to the eternal British/American alliance crushing you when you try and destroy europe again.

This, desu. It's like when plebeians here act like wars that funnel our money overseas and coerce non-whites to move to white countries are good for us, or striking a blow against liberals and brown people.

>We'd blow those cucks and their pet refugees into orbit

Number of nukes used by UK EVER: 0

Sure thing you are going to nuke us now with your meme submarines which need co-gender sleeping bunks and poo in the loo open shitting areas.

>Germans actually think this.

europeangeostrategy.org/2014/01/european-geostrategy-audit-major-powers-worlds-fifteen-most-powerful-countries-2014/
ukdefencejournal.org.uk/study-finds-uk-is-second-most-powerful-country-in-the-world/

>What is dank memeing
I want newfags to leave

>You are mad that article 146 exists
Not really. I think it`s pretty reasonable to include something like that, as it provides a clear frame for establishing a new constitution should that become necessary.
Heck, I would go so far as to say that we should keep it when we inevitably adopt a new one.

>Except you don't control it, the global political elite controls it.

Actually, German controls the EU. Juncker does what we say. Look up any issue of the last 10 years which was debated on the EU level - every single thing ended up being done like Germany wanted it.

Good goyim

You have to fight those evil neo Nazis who don't want to accept millions of refugees. Fucking racist scum

Its not hard for germans to emigrate here If you feel like escaping the marxist scum.

SJW shit dont fly here, only on tv.

>I am pretty sure they haven't taken any "dividends" on whatsoever.

Derivatives sorry. Didn't check what i'd typed

>You are mistaken the ECB and the Bundesbank, with Deutsche Bank. Deutsche Bank is a private institution, the German Fed is the Bundesbank and the ECB.

DB alone has a 57 trillion exposure in derivatives. If DB were to fail public and business confidence in european banks would evaporate. DB would be an absolute mammoth to prop up, even without the rest of Europe's confidence in the banking system depending on it

this. Even if half of them are designated shitposters, the amount of idiocy coming from those allegedly being redpilled is staggering.

Pay denbts, Germany.

I don't

Hell I actually am questioning Canada and whether British Columbia would be better off if we had our own version of brexit from Canada

>our votes literally don't matter in federal elections (see: vancouversun.com/touch/opinion/op-ed/opinion does really matter federal elections/11282452/story.htm)

>being part of Canada actually drains us economically (look up transfer payments plus the shit Monopoly money called the Canadian dollar) a BC currency (let's call it a BC pound) would be slightly above a US dollar right now

>the federal government is responsible for making us take in many non whites. We used to have our own version of a white Australia type policy and if we were in control of immigration we could stop any and all Chinese communists from coming here (which the old Chinese, nationalist Chinese and BritishHongKong Chinese would actually be the biggest supporters of. There are also interprovincial migrants I would like to keep the fuck out *cough job stealing Albertans

Meanwhile there are zero benifits to being part of Canada that outweigh the downsides

So what do you think britbro. Knowing you voted out of EU should BC vote out of Canada in the future?

No. Every normal sovereign country with a real constitution doesnt have a clause which states that people have to vote for a real one.

Coming from the People to form the base of democracy and the lawmaking process aswell as regulate the process in which the lawmakers are elected and controlled. Any further additions should serve these principles.

You're a fool. With an EU army, Brussels would have your borders pried open before you could even build your first wall. The nationalists in Poland would also be crushed. Your actions have been attacked by the EU, your army is now the EU common army, how do you expect this to play out?

>Lad you are spending $20 billion less than the UK.
45 billion pounds - British budget
35 billion Euros - German budget

British pound taking another 20% vs the Euro, and we spend more. Not to mention that the Euro is artificially devalued through Greece and Italy and Spain being in the Eurozone.

Oh damn, it gets even worse. They're fucked if Putin decides to go west.

>How is the UK even relevant in Europe?
why did you make a thread about us turkroach

Being run by self hating Germans is a good thing?

You do realize these Germans that run EU hate being German and want Germany and its culture to be replaced with brown """people""" right?

>DB alone has a 57 trillion exposure in derivatives.
And 57 trillion you actually mean 1.6 billion, right? That is the actual exposure according to public data everyone can look up on their website.

P.S. DB is Deutsche Bahn, the German railroad. Deutsche Bank is commonly referred to as Deutsche.

user, please. Everything went to shit once the great powers kicked the bucket eventually leaving the US as the sole player.
The americans aren't suited for that kind of work. The bong empire could have done it but you faggots killed it because you hate the germans too much.
If anyone thinks the 21'st century will be of peace and gay rainbows he's in for a dragon surprise. Yurop needs an army and if the turn of events make so that it becomes a reality then praise kek or whoever is responsible.

The French always lead in Military fashion, that says a lot.

I don't think he has the desire, at this point, so long as the New Germans keep buying Russian gas.

And the Goytchlander has conveniently forgotten to respond to this

>germany controls the EU
>juncker does as we say

Sometimes i wonder if the shills know where they are spewing their shit.

All your posts scream paid shill.

WW1 Propaganda

Look up Hunnenrede by Willy 2

The EU is not Austria Hungary or Prussia. It is essentially a satrapy to the same globalist monetary entities that make our way of life here.

Sounds nice, but wrong from a legal point of view.

Do you know about article 79 of the GG? It was made as an additional protection for the democratic order due to the experiences from the NS times, and states, among other things, that the basic system of government laid down in article 20 GG can`t be changed.
That makes something like 146 necessary.

>he thinks germany is in control of the EU

You stupid naive fool

>they're fucked

Actually considering the EU and its mass importation of shitskins and desire to make Europe minority white I think really Putin invading would be the best long term thing to happen to Europe

>self hating weak shits mostly don't survive
>when Putin liberates them people can be openly right wing
>execute the traitor leftists who manage to survive
>with Putins help gas the Musllms and other shitskins in both Europe and Russia

I think Europe is the opposite of fucked if Russia comes in

zerohedge.com/news/2016-07-06/furious-italian-prime-minister-slams-deutsche-bank-europes-most-insolvent-bank

cnbc.com/2016/07/15/deutsche-bank-a-ticking-time-bomb.html

nytimes.com/2016/07/28/business/dealbook/deutsche-bank-q2-earnings.html?_r=0

FT want me to do a survey so the kikes can fuck off

>P.S. DB is Deutsche Bahn, the German railroad. Deutsche Bank is commonly referred to as Deutsche.

In the interests of this thread DB is fine, it's easier than typing that pig language all the time

It's indoctrination. They're young, naive, and perhaps a little bit stupid.
It's hard to make sense when you've lived a lie your entire life and received a fake "education" meant to make you easy to control, rather than actually educated.

We ought to just form cascadia already

>If anyone thinks the 21'st century will be of peace and gay rainbows he's in for a dragon surprise.
That's correct. The next decades will be characterised by ethnic and religious conflict and tough clashes between different civilizations.

>Yurop needs an army
Europe needs several armies that can cooperate nicely with each other. We certainly don't need one big army. That's political idiocy.

I think nobody wants to form an army where you throw in recruits from spain, norway, germany and poland into the same unit.

What they are going to do, and what you seem to want, is a joint high-level command

Fuck off you commie Turkroach

>and what you seem to want, is a joint high-level command
No, I certainly don't want that.
Controlling the military is the most sovereign task of any state. It doesn't get any more sovereign than that.

What I was talking about was compatible command structure that allows for joint exercises and maneuvers. Europe will have to throw some military weight around in the future, no doubt about that; and we better be prepared by having some experience in military situations and not run around like headless chicken.
But the question about sovereignity is indivisible. We have a Parlamentsarmee. Only the Bundestag can deploy the Bundeswehr.

The EU is displacing your people you stupid Teuton rat

Against the EU they would be. The UK has sided with Russia to crush you cucks before and they'll do it again.

good goy

I should have worded that differently. Think NATO, just EU-wide.

>Think NATO, just EU-wide.
Yeah, that would be ok.
It would shake off the dependence on the US and give a boost to our own military industry and research. We haven't used our scientific and industrial strength in that field at all.
It would give Germany a lot of confidence, too, I think.

>We have a Parlamentsarmee. Only the Bundestag can deploy the Bundeswehr.

why not simply transferring the sovereignty to the EU parliament then?

Why should we do that tho'?

Not allowed. GG states very explicitely that the last instance is and always has to be Bundestag and Bundesverfassungsgericht.

The only way around this is to trigger GG 146 and get a new (real) constitution.

>Why should we do that tho'?

why not? If you build an imperial army with multinational mercenaries, this would be a consequent step.

oh lol, as if laws would not be broken on a permanent basis

>sovereignty
>the EU
pick one and only one.

actually, you don't get to pick, it will be the EU and native Europeans will not be apart of it.

cant we just varnish the germany(eu), they are obviously trying to Rule with shatter and destroy.

at no point anyone denied there's parliamentary sovereignty rather than popular sovereignty.
We the people have no say no matter within or outside the EU.