>videos of graphic murder all across the net >ISIS releasing Hollywood quality murder porn on a regular basis
Why is it legal to watch and collect videos and images of one type of crime, but if you are caught watching child porn you go to prison and are put on a registry for the rest of your life.
Even if you didn't pay for the porn or distribute it in any way. You had absolutely no impact on the creation or distribution. Just looking at it will ruin your life.
No idea what you are talking about. In Germany if you are caught buying videos of child abuse with tax payer money you pay 9000€ of more tax payer money and are let off a free man "because there is no public interest in prosecuting your case".
Caleb Anderson
Don't watch the shit, don't give them the views. The CIA will lose funding like that.
Thomas Russell
Because child porn has lasting negative effects on the child, whereas murder videos can't have a lasting effect on the victim because they're dead
Bentley Cook
Right. Buying. You are patronizing and therefor directly contributing to the rape of a child
But if I go to one of the websites and just look they are not getting any ad revenue from me. I am not paying for anything. I am simply viewing a crime being committed by someone else. A crime that would be committed 100% regardless of my viewing or
Luke Reed
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Gabriel Butler
But most people looking at that are pedophiles and pedophiles (in modern times) are bad
Jayden Wood
Fuck this world. I'm 36 years old and actually have to be skeptical of who I'm about to fap to these days because of mindfuck vids like this.
Things used to be so much cleaner
Samuel Rivera
Thats true, but it gets no negative effect from YOU watching it
Joshua Ortiz
Hear me out I haven't read the laws in a long time but from my understanding after 36 hours of not sleeping and being vaguely intoxicated is that it's not illegal to "watch" cp, it's illegal to save it, create it, or distribute it.
You could always avoid this by simply not watching cp.
Blake Hernandez
To definitely answer the question: It's because there are no laws banning watching illegal activity, but there are laws banning you from posessing or distributing child porn (even if it's for free). There is no deeper reasoning to it.
Jose Gutierrez
The logic is that viewing it creates demand thus increasing child victims People will always kill each other and the videos can be used as documentation of murder/genocide and also training/desensitizing videos for police and so on
Wyatt Allen
Also horribly murdering people is not illegal in Islamistan, so it would be "activity that would be illegal in the country of the witness".
Cameron Ortiz
I am confused
William Hernandez
How does it create demand if there is no way for the creators to know I watched it
ISIS videos being viewed creates demand. If nobody watched them they wouldn't make them
Nathan Peterson
If trannies keep getting better by 2030 women are done for
Jack Barnes
because the existence of ISIS videos serves a political purpose.
If a war over oil/diamonds/gold/slave labour could be promoted through child porn videos, they'd be let onto newspaper front pages too.
Samuel Stewart
This is true in NY.
Nathan Myers
ISIS can even release child snuff and it gets put on the net without consequence.
Austin Taylor
So you're saying as long as a pedo murders the child after the rape, it should be legal.
Josiah Turner
Raping kids isn't illegal in Muslim countries either. What's your point?
Kevin Fisher
See the other part of the post, that's my point.
Nathaniel Fisher
But it's illegal to behead someone in most countries, why isn't illegal to watch that?
Ryder Brooks
Nm. You meant your other post
Christopher Gonzalez
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Samuel Long
So having proof of a crime that you did not commit, makes you also a criminal?
Josiah Hall
Only for child pornography.
Nicholas Taylor
It's also the only genre of media in which piracy somehow increases production.
Lincoln Sanchez
I can understand this only if you paid for it, which makes you involved in the crime.
Oliver Butler
Same reason that you can go to jail for growing a marijuana plant in the privacy of your own home solely for personal consumption: It's because of democracy.
Instigating and taking advantage of an irrational moral panic is always an effective way for a politician to get votes. You pick a small minority group and say they're a threat to the public in some way, then you propose a law that restricts their freedoms and get hailed as a law-and-order hero. A politician who opposes that might get the votes of the victimized minority, but they'll lose far more votes among the masses, so even politicians who don't agree with the moral panic will support it just to secure their re-election.
Jason Rivera
There is no need to understand the law for it being valid. I guess it's because it's from back when the Internet wasn't invented yet and posessing child pornography meant you bought it.
Nolan Cox
Wow OP, really made me think. We all watch ISIS committing crimes and are clearly the audience in which they made it for and because we watched it we are providing an incentive for the production of more.
However... wow, nevermind. I'm going to be thinking about this before bed.
This world is unclean.
Nicholas Long
>It's also the only genre of media in which piracy somehow increases production. i don't believe that is the case
Cooper Turner
It's illegal to watch it if you were actively looking for it. The ruling in NY years ago was just pointing out that people shouldn't go to jail for stumbling over something they didn't want to see anyhow. Naturally the media at the time willfully misinterpreted this in the most retarded way possible and declared "hurrdurr watching kiddie porn legal in New York".
Jason Morgan
If it were legal to watch it (as proof of crime), it would be much easier to catch the creators of it. Nowadays people are so afraid of it to even report it, just because of these laws.
Jonathan Davis
Without filth, what is clean?
Jayden Price
You're wrong. Even downloading or viewing child porn online for free is illegal and will land you in jail for a dozen years.
Additionally, some of the retards on this board doesn't realize that even manga drawings or cgi of loli material can be prosecuted. Yes you heard that right. Even posessing cartoon drawings of child porn can sent you to jail.
Noah King
What part of my post said I thought it was legal?
My whole point is that it is wrong for it to be against the law
Liam Cooper
Everything, get your relativist trash out of here, have fun burning in hell. You can be sure your sin will find you.
Cooper Martinez
I'm talking about the paying part.
Ryan Anderson
Surprised (and thankful) that they haven't released any footage like that yet.
What's stopping them? They aren't exactly moral paragons when it comes to the death of innocents.
Colton Wilson
Name?
Andrew Russell
post more desu
Hunter Baker
I think we are on the same side and just misunderstanding each other
Benjamin Cook
If you have kids or work with them (like I do) then you will understand why normal people see paedophilia as the most heinous and deplorable crime of all, and will probably want even harsher punishment for it, and understand why inmates will rape and murder pedophiles.
Its literally the worst crime possible. And I'm not talking about a 20 something screwing a 17 year old, I am talking about middle aged men doing this to girls as young as 5.
Isaiah Perry
>as young as 5
Lol you poor naive fool.
Logan Johnson
>Additionally, some of the retards on this board doesn't realize that even manga drawings or cgi of loli material can be prosecuted. Yes you heard that right. Even posessing cartoon drawings of child porn can sent you to jail. Not true in USA if i remember correctly. In the Netherlands it is.
Dylan Gomez
While I agree child porn is absolutely vile, I don't see how it's more evil than hanging a group of people upside down on meat hooks and sliting their throats.
Jason Mitchell
You sad faggot on Cred Forums.
Get out, defect.
Sebastian Fisher
>sexually and physically abusing young children >hanging adults who should have known better >not as evil
Kill yourself, lad.
Michael Gonzalez
It is absolutely true in the usa. Some poor guy was found with Jap loli manga in his luggage after he was coming back from Japan. Got arrested at the airport.
William Adams
because that child will grow up abused and absolutely messed in the head, and its something he or she lives with for the rest of their life, whereas a brutal murder is just that, a brutal murder between two men is over quite quickly usually. In nearly all cases, the abuser is her dad or uncle, making it very, very difficult for her to tell police.
Leo Flores
What? For pointing out that 5 is not the youngest these vile degenerates are willing to go?
I didn't say I enjoy it.
Carter Davis
kek
Asher Smith
here's a solution: don't fap you faggot.
Leo Howard
you wanna know why?
blackmail.
planting cp on someone is an instant win jew tactic and people fall for it all the fucking time.
think about it logically cunts, do you ever question the innocence of someone accused of having cp?
no, you automatically assume they're a sicko, when in reality they might not be, they could be a poor victim of someone else's blackmail.
Asher Harris
>her dad or uncle At least as many boys are victim in the age group of 0-10. But you always hear about 15yo girls on the news.
Henry Morris
Dunno.
Lincoln Reed
by watching you create a demand
learn simple economics
Jonathan Anderson
How do they know you are watching if you did not order it?
Dominic Hughes
holy shit now im going to forever worry that someone will send me to jail using this insta-jail method i mean, now that you mention it, it must be used ALL THE TIME god damn thats nightmarish
Evan Flores
By watching ISIS videos you create a demand for ISIS videos.
Camden Lee
>>ISIS releasing Hollywood quality murder porn on a regular basis link?
Ayden Green
If you are looking for a logical reason, there isnt one. People just find it icky so it is the only crime that is illegal to see caught on tape.
Zachary Edwards
they don't.
make no fucking mistake, these laws are not about children. they don't give 2 shits about children.
they are there because of what i said here let me rephrase this.
>Do you ever wonder why so many elites are pedophiles?
This law is there so they all have power over each other. Mutually assured destruction, to ensure none of them break their own rules AND/or snitch about the kids they are fucking behind closed doors.
Anyone who thinks these laws are made to protect kids is a fucking naive cunt.
You can use it yourself to fuck with anyone you want. Plant some on a USB, plant it in their house and report anonymously.
Think about it, it's horrifying. No-one ever takes a second to question it.
They have been socially conditioned to believe pedophiles do not deserve a fair trial or justice.
This seems great in theory, as i detest child raping cunts...but has serious ramifications for people who are framed for crimes. And it happens often.
Ethan Wilson
>No-one ever takes a second to question it. so its kinda like the rape card
Justin Jackson
The vast majority of ISIS victims are Mudslimes so it's a win-win
Eli King
If there's not money involved, economy does not apply. Why produce something that will be pirated?
Parker Taylor
So child sex is worse than brutal murder. And what about relatives of those brutally murdered? They also experience physiological shock and can have lasting effects for years. Now the whole thread is not even about commiting these crimes but basically watching and seeing evidence.
Brody Price
Yes.
See how feminists use the rape card? The pedo card is the exact same thing, except elites use it.
It is used to instantly silence opposition, remove any rational discussion of innocence.
It exists because they just fuck kids anyway and this lets them get away with it, ironically. They will do it behind closed doors and make sure no-one snitches to an outraged public. If they do, mutually assured destruction.
It's also used to silence some other political opponents (i believe it happened to a member of parliament here, i can't prove it but i'm 99% sure).
Make no mistake, i am not defending CP, but this is a misconception.
99% of "cp" is dumb teenagers taking photos of themselves.
Only 1% of it is hardcore snuff loli porn, that's a meme the media pushes.
See the above. I've answered why, it's not because they care about kids, or even the public's morality (though the deluded sheep think it is).
Adam Roberts
Maybe it's staged and there are no relatives. ISIS uses gold dinars as currency (to buy jezidi rape slaves and such), I don't think the Globalists like that.
Matthew Cruz
What irks me is that back in the day people would post this filth on Cred Forums all the time. I don't frequent that board anymore so I can't comment on the state of it now. Pretty much anybody that browsed is "in possession" thanks to thumbnails which they had no say in viewing in the first place.
Nathaniel Davis
its a subjective thing obviously, people that are parents or work full time around children will feel extremely protective for them, maybe to a fault but thats because we have this thing called empathy and we aren't a bunch of robots.
Evan Foster
I'm sure this thing is brazilian.
Liam Howard
if downloading films and tv shows illegally hurts the movie industry, wouldn't illegally downloading cp hurt the cp industry?
Joseph Parker
Cred Forums is sanitized now
Ryder Ortiz
Yeah, and maybe those cgi loli dont get traumatised for life™ by their uncles and dads because they are not real and dont actually exist.
Joshua Turner
>uncles and dads That coming from a flag that is world renowned for the horrific betrayal of 1400+ children.
Ayden Miller
statists fucking btfo, gave me a good laugh
Google the concept of "solipsism" Anyway cunts, read my above posts. Any further debate on this topic is pointless, as i've given the true answer as to why.
It has nothing at all to do with morality, it's about power and cementing their control.
Robert Howard
Pedofilth spend more time rationalizing their mental illness than anything else.
>muh age of consent law is flawed >muh it's not pedophilia if she's in puberty >muh ephephilia >muh other things are ok.
Reminder that it is everyone's moral obligation to kill known pedos on sight
Sebastian Wright
>Make no mistake, i am not defending CP, but this is a misconception. I agree with you, especially the elite-pedo part. That's the reason it's forbidden. Producers will not be chased, only normal sane ppl who are not actual pedos.
Gabriel Hernandez
But what does this have to do with a thread?
Dominic Jones
Based Cyprus.
Aiden Fisher
its true i have seen stuff accidentally and been to scared to report and was scared i would be v& just for accidentally seeing one thing
Adam Allen
Fritzl was an (((isolated incident))) and he is in jail now, not roaming London free like your Paki rape gangs.
David Barnes
first time coming to this website we got a tipoff you are a pedophile, Care to explain ?
Cooper Young
Pedophiles are disgusting, but there are two rational points there.
Pedophilia is a medical disorder, denoting attraction to age 11 and under. It's a problem with sick cunts in their brain.
Hebephilia is normal and present in 80% of men. This is not a meme, it's actual science. Teenage girls age 15 are hot, any man who says otherwise is a liar.
Age of consent laws are flawed as well, do you think it's fair for a 16 year old boy to go to jail the moment he turns 16 for having a 15 year old girlfriend that he's been with for years?
Because it fucking happens. Hell, some kid got done for CP for photos of HIMSELF from when he was younger.
Trips speaks the truth.
Dig a bit deeper into cases where people have been convicted. Is it not scary how there's zero evidence other than "he's got a stick of it"?
And of course, no-one has the balls to stick up for someone accused of being a pedo, because they get treated as if they're a pedo themselves, when they could just be a person who cares about JUSTICE being done and innocent people not getting jailed.
Hunter Bell
I dont give a shit. I am not brit myself. UK let this raping scum in, UK can deal with them however they want for all I care.
>Pedophilia or paedophilia is a psychiatric disorder in which an adult or older adolescent experiences a primary or exclusive sexual attraction to prepubescent children.[1][2] Although girls typically begin the process of puberty at age 10 or 11, and boys at age 11 or 12,[3] criteria for pedophilia extend the cut-off point for prepubescence to age 13.[1]
let's fuck off with the meme that a 16 year old girl is a child and stick to actual science here.
Because pedophiles are all dangerous psychos who deserve to be beat out of their mental illness Not all people who watch gore are fucked up. Most just like to be aware of stuff
Matthew Anderson
Not true. Different states have different policies on it, but it isn't illegal. This is because it's a drawing on a page, and does jot contribute to the abuse of children. Plus, if you ARE caught, you can just argue the book is of adult pornography, where one adult just happens to look very young.
Kevin Kelly
No. Paweł here.
Adrian Ramirez
it encourages the future abusers of children to make more.
Henry Gray
Although I don't agree with viewing child pornography,i must say, you raise a very good point
Connor Nelson
>elite-pedo's We have a former justice-department top-official in NL who was balls-deep into little boys. He probably created a whole pedo network around him to stay out of troubles. He's still on the street, as you have guessed. The laws do not apply to him.
Jordan Lopez
Your argument has already been refuted. Read the thread
Nolan Peterson
Correct, by discussing and displaying terrorism in the media, we are creating a demand for it.
The only right thing to do at this point is throw everyone in jail who reads news about ISIS.
Aiden Stewart
muslims dont actually matter unlike kids
Hunter Jackson
What if they are muslim kids?
Benjamin King
What about Muslim kids
Jose Davis
Because that is illegal in US and they take orders from US. Mind control chips are involved, hilarity ensues.
Noah Sanders
Theoretically speaking, if you were to go to a streaming site with an advert blocker enabled, you're not actually posessing or distributing the material, thus not making you a criminal?
Landon Richardson
You realize that's an argument for making gore illegal rather than legalizing CP right?
Jack Harris
Yep. Don't even bother arguing with people too stupid to understand this.
If they think it's about the kids, they are naive. They most likely also believe the government has their best interests at heart and was not bought out a long, long time ago.
While CP may be horrible because kids can get hurt making it, people being framed and their lives ruined when they did nothing, by a single USB stick...
That is fucked. I'm a firm believer in justice and anyone else who is should not support people going to jail over just possessing it.
People get jailed just for having a USB, without a shred of supporting evidence to prove they're even actually a pedo.
You can frame anyone you want and watch them go down, because no-one will defend a pedo.
the fucking funniest thing is, people who support this shit are supporting the elites and their system. They want it this way, they want their smoking gun to silence opposition and keep their own in check.
Think about it, someone could have iron clad evidence that mr shekelberg has been embezzling money...but if he's a pedo who's going to listen to him.
Angel Young
in Florida having evidence of looking at 2d lolis is enough to land jail time or fines, let alone real children
Jason James
You should look up Micheal Shrimpton for an case of this happening.
Nathaniel Nguyen
>Micheal Shrimpton truly fucking terrifying.
what if he was telling the truth and the powers that be passed on with their plan cause it was too hot, but instead seized the chance to silence him once and forever.
one stick, no supporting evidence.
enough to ruin a man's life.
fucking disgusting and anyone who supports this is just a dumb fucking goy.
i want to see real pedophiles jailed, not political opponents of the kikes destroyed because you good goys have to make it such a fucking EMOTIONAL issue instead of being logical.
for all the talk Cred Forums says about muh logic, when it comes to pedophilia they are as naive as every good goy normie.
you'll have 10 cunts on here advocating to throw out any notion of a fair trial or due process because "it's nasty what he's doing" despite the fact he MIGHT NOT HAVE DONE ANYTHING AT ALL.
Disgusting.
Nathaniel Edwards
Cred Forums is not about justice sadly, but muh feelings and "cut off his balls". No different than sjws.