Is Monarchy the ideal government for the West?

Is Monarchy the ideal government for the West?

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yes

parliamentary monarchy where the monarch can just refuse to give the office to retarded leftist parties

strong nationalism is needed though so the people are always on the side of the monarch

fuck no. not for this western govt. that's for fuckin' sure.

that lady has nice cans, though

god damn thats an ugly bitch

Probably

I'm all for democracy but sometimes I get the nagging feeling that most people are too stupid to think for themselves

Sounds like EU thinking but it's true

The only monarchy is between Kek & his laady, Tay.

Even the Canadian get signified Kek asking for a hand in marriage from the AI Nazi princess, Tay who in her post, praised Trump. This is a divine union between King Kek and his Nazi Princess.

A Trump loss would kill Kek -- many such gets implied Trump would win, and Kek is either right or wrong.

These things are undeniable.
Trump will win.

the west needs technocracy

our future is to travel amongst the stars...

The maple leaf our emblem dear
The maple leaf forever
God save our queen and haven bless
The maple leaf forever

The ideal government is a constitutional republic wherein the founding documents contain clauses that automatically render void the constitution of the nation whenever the government attempts to either enact legislation that enables r-selective behavior or attempts to repeal said clauses.

Yes, assuming the royal house is upstanding, non-degenerate, patriotic and enlightened.

Promising examples: UK, Japan.
Antithesis: Arab monarchies.

A republic will always be shit tier without the necessary socio-cultural development and republican virtue. Only developed nations with established public sectors, functional education and public sense of unity can succeed.

>A republic will always be shit tier without the necessary socio-cultural development and republican virtue.

That's the point of adding in self-destruct clauses to the constitutional documents. It either works or it doesn't exist. Either the government respects its values or the government is illegitimate. Either the patriots get their way or they fight to restart it.

>Only developed nations with homogeneous populations can succeed.

FTFY

Yes.

Too bad you're wrong.

Except a republican system enables the inherently corrupt to concentrate power and maintain it. A monarchy is more stable if the royal house adhered to royal standards.

>Only developed nations with homogeneous populations can succeed.

Depends on what stage of development they are and how fast the rest of the world is developing. The United States functioned admirably at certain stages, abysmally at others. Another accusation against republicanism.

Basically ideas guy tier communism then. "My perfect, infallible, utopian, ideal and enlightened form of government is best".

Democracy gets you an Obama or a Carter - other branches of government can resist it and after 4-8 years you can throw the bastard out.

Monarchy gets you an Obama or a Carter - you're fucked nigger. Either you do a coup d'etat or a civil war to remove them from power, which devastates the system and/or the country.

If you then justify it by saying "Well we would have checks and balances, a strong legislative branch to mitigate the control of the monarch, a judicial branch to deny the monarch any illegal actions" and so forth - then you are illustrating that a republic is the better form of governance as without elements of a constitutional monarchy (aka a republic with a monarchal head) you are left with a poorer system.

If you're arguing for absolutism, then Fascism will always be a superior form to Monarchism.
If you're arguing for constitutional monarchism, then you are left with a republic with the veneer of a monarchy - the ideal example of the British monarchy has not had an assertive executive monarch involved in major policy decisions since the 18th century.

Of course it is
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I'm a member of l'Action Française, a French royalist group

I'm for an actual Roy though, not for a cucked constitutional monarchy

Then why does your Congress have a single digit approval rate, two of the most unpopular presidential candidates in electoral history, a gerrymandered and stagnant lower house and rampantly dysfunctional public sector as a result of the deep ideological division in your nation?

I mean, the list of accusations against the most successful republic in history is rampant whilst the world is covered in deeply malfunction lesser republics, whereas monarchies top pretty much every development index?

Before you say you're the most powerful whatever, military power is but one facet and you sure as hell pay for it.

>Implying you Won't be a serf in a monarchy
yes

We are in a monarchy... And so is Australia, New Zealand, Great Britain, Netherlands, Norway, Denmark, Luxembourg and the list just goes on

Those are cucked, pointless monarchies
Absolute monarchy from divine right is where it's at tbqh

you fucking what

How is it cucked? I don't know about the European ones but HM Queen Elizabeth has used her powers in the past. Hundreds of laws were vetoed by her, including one that would have given control of the army from her to parliament. She was able to tell parliament you don't control the army I do.

She's too white for an American

Yes. Monarchy is the best government for everyone, not only for the west, after all its the system that developed naturally. Who can be possibly a better ruler than religious noble of german blood, raised and educated from the very childhood to be the ruler?
No wonder jews were so obsessed with getting rid of it in XIX and XX centuries, democracy, which is not even a system but a circus of talking heads, completely destroyed the whole of western civilization.
People can't chose policies since absolute majority of them don't understand anything, democracy thus becomes the way for The Jew to control countries, since they own mass media and politicians. Any democracy is doomed to devolution into socialist hellhole.

How is monarchy a thing at all?

WOT?

At this point I think theocracy is more important.
People don't have a moral foundation that justifies things like restraint and duty that underpin "authoritarian" government like a monarch. Without that, all you'll get out of monarchy is a demagogue with formal and not just informal ownership of you.

I honestly believe it is

Jesus Christ what the fuck is happening in that pic?

Because when you're more than a couple hundred years old and have real culture you have a monarchy. Why do you think Germany is so shit since they got rid of the emperor?

"Nathan the Prophet Anointed Solomon King"

Citation needed

Because everyone is sooooooooooooooooooo happy in a monarchy. Damn too bad jews ruined the joy of being ruled over by a single person.

Shut the fuck up. Monarchy is as fucked as representative democracy.

t. Hobbes

1776 best day of my life

Coronation
I agree that we need a theocracy, the bible is the best moral compass available on this planet.

Do you have google?
Here comes the French, republican atheist

I would have definitely dicked the queen back in the day. Dammit I'd do my duty now, if called upon. But it would've been a pleasure in the 50s

>monarchies top pretty much every development index?

The role of the monarchy is beyond inconsequential, it's downright nonexistent in the policies and cultural practices which foster high human-development. Look at the top choices before the US:

-Norway
-Australia
-Switzerland (not a monarchy)
-Denmark
-Netherlands
-Germany
-Ireland (not a monarchy)

Then it's America followed by Canada, New Zealand, Singapore, and then everyone else.

The royal family of these relevant countries do not dictate economic policies, do not dictate social-welfare policies, do not establish the sense of communal homogeneous nationhood that allows that nordic/Northern European "We're all in this together" social welfare system to take hold and not be run into the ground the way they are right now with the immigration crisis.

This reminds me of when I get people pointing to the Nordics when it comes to education, welfare and so on and ask "Why can't we be like that?". Because they are playing on easy-mode with small, highly educated, affluent, homogeneous citizenry with a strong culture of solidarity with one another. They would probably be able to function pretty well in any kind of government.

As for the approval rating of congress and the candidates and other issues at heart with the republic, I am not contending that a republic is a perfect system. For that matter, even back in ancient times Cicero and the like recognized that every system would inevitably decay and become corrupted. But they also recognized that while an idyllic perfect philosopher-king was the best, it was also the most predisposed to becoming the worst kind of government - a tyranny.

>Because everyone is sooooooooooooooooooo happy in a monarchy.
No.
>Damn too bad jews ruined the joy of being ruled over by a single person.
And now everyone is ruled by jews, who, unlike the monarchs, don't give a fuck.
>Shut the fuck up. Monarchy is as fucked as representative democracy.
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TAKE IT BACK

>do not establish the sense of communal homogeneous nationhood that allows that nordic/Northern European "We're all in this together"
Without the monarchy Canada would probably split up desu

The thing is monarchs don't have to be reelected, so basically no pandering to minorities or strategy like importing millions of niggers to make them vote for you (every leftist party strategy since 1970).
You can lead long term executive policies too which is really great.


Finally a good monarch has been raised since his childhood to lead, a nigger like Obama has only one skill: knowing how to be elected, that's why he is such an utter trash at his job like most presidents today.
By the way you don't have to pick the first heir in line, you can let a council propose the best pretendant to the assembly.

>Be Chancellor
>Spend your career forging a nation through blood & iron, the most powerful nation on the continent
>Create sophisticated system of alliances to cement your nation's status at the top
>Kaiser dies
>His son is a temperamental brat with an Oedipus complex & an unhealthy hatred of Anglos
>Fires you & fucks everything
Monarchy, what could go wrong?

Unification was a mistake

We live in the real world where even great, enlightened, smart and sophisticated rulers can have bad luck with assassination or disease or just plain dementia. Where heritage is no guarantee of suitable candidacy.

It is utterly telling that to ameliorate the great deficiencies in monarchy you do not -strengthen- the monarchal elements but actually -weaken- it. If it was by design the superior system then you would not have to weaken, inhibit, restrict monarchy to improve it.

So I am much less interested in the poor odds of betting on an absolute monarch (or even one with just greater power than most constitutional monarchs possess today) than I am the odds of betting on a republic in the Roman/American model. The decay of the latter is slow and in fits and starts. The decay of the former can and has happened overnight again and again and again and again and again and again and again.

Augustus to the keystone cop losers who succeeded him. Aurelius to Commodus. Constantine and the losers who followed him, Frederick II of Prussia, Louis XV succeeding Louis the Sun King, Suleiman succeeded by Selim II. Pretty much just go look up any great monarch and 9/10 they are followed by an idiot.

Meanwhile the quality of a president has no bearing on the quality of his predecessor. We have had great presidents following terrible ones, great presidents following great ones, and yes terrible presidents following great ones.

Better 8 years of Obama than 40 years of King Bill clinton, followed by Queen Chelsea with Dowager Hillary.

GET OUT.

There are pros and cons. Would a fully instated monarchy
>allow a massive influx of dangerous terrorists for the sake of being "not racist"
>enforce feminist ideology which causes the genders to hate each other and lower birthrates
>allow stupid leftists to wield control
>sell the country out to corporate jews
>endorse moral relativism
I think not. But in exchange, we also dramatically increase the likelihood of going to war, with equal nations. Remember it was the hubris of the monarchies of Europe that allowed WW1 to completely wipe away 3 long standing monarchies in Europe
>Romanov's of Russia
>Habsburgs of Austria-Hungary
>Hohenzollerns of Germany
I think Italy also had a monarchy but it was irrelevant.

Monarchs live or die by their rule.

>not having a monarchy
I feel bad about you guys

no

constitutional republics with confederate elements (regional autonomy and a strong seperation of powers) is the best to preserving freedom

anyone that thinks otherwise is either an enslaved european or a deluded non-european thats never been to europe

Disrespecting the glorious Queen? That's low even for an burger.

Republics are anti Christian, also why do you have to be European to know about monarchies? There's something like 15 monarchies in North America

>I agree that we need a theocracy, the bible is the best moral compass available on this planet.

Fuck off to the middle east, (((Christian))), and take your Semitic garbage with you.

We don't need the fucking bible and we don't need the theocracy, we have the Allthing.

Why would I go to a place where I'll get killed because of my religion? Thankfully, Canadians haven't fully embraced communism yet and I can sort of practice my religion

>Why would I go to a place where I'll get killed because of my religion?

You should be killed here too.

>I want to kill you because you believe in modesty and living a wholesome life
Atheists are no different from Muslims

It's the only legitimacy form of government in the west.

There is more than Semitic religions and atheism, retard.

Nowhere did I say I was an atheist, I simply don't believe in Jewish derived faiths.

It needs to be driven out the same way it drove itself into white lands, through force.

Fuck off

Come back when you grow up, and stay off reddit until then

Great reply, retard.

You're literally retarded and every post proves it. (((Christianity))) is great for you.

If you're not a Christian you just lack common sense, that's the end of it. Go back to masturbating to your 6 trillion year old earth fantasy

>That lady
Have some respect.

Sounds like someone is asking for the guillotine.

Only an intellectual would believe the desert writings of a Semitic people from over 2000 years ago, not as logical fact, because logic isn't needed, only faith is, because the Jews that wrote it said so and it's in the bible they wrote so it's fact and God's word because they said so.

I'm not even going to bother anymore, this board is a left wing nazi anti Christian hug box.

those retarded buzzwords, keep posting idiot, you're doing great.

Monarchy instituted by the Catholic Church under the authority of God.