What is Cred Forums's opinion on Buddhism? Is it the most redpilled religion?

If dumb big titted women buy into it it's probably not true

wtf i love buddhism now

Jesus. Obvious shoop.

Yeah, especially all the writings on women being complete shit.

It's actually not, fellow amerifat.

Yes

Lol and what magnificent achievements have you made by posing on an anime image board?

Depends on what buddhism you're talking about.

Some branches are more religion-y, others are more philosophy-y.

It's not a religion and it's not redpilled because it doesn't actively set out to change anything. It acknowledges that there is a lot wrong with the world but says "fuck the world, be at peace" basically.

Also it's been heavily misappropriated by all of the degenerate, druggie, hippy "spiritualists".

Buddhism in the West is a perverted hedonistic version of Oriental Buddhism. Same applies for Yoga and meditation.

Based.

it's a nihilistic suicidal death cult

basically the goal is to snuff out the inevitable cycle of birth and rebirth into this world of suffering

>What is Cred Forums's opinion on Buddhism? Is it the most redpilled religion?
Why would you think this?

Buddhism is great for Cred Forums: hurrrr life is suffering so I'm not going to partake in it.

Basically what you losers do when it comes to women, friends, success, etc.

Might as well castrate yourself if you are too afraid to use it.

I can see how Buddhism is appealing, but it basically offers a defense mechanism for people who are afraid to further escape from reality. It's for cowards.

That are pretty huge tits.

Yeah, it's pretty fucking pessimistic imo.

Very non-ubermensch.

I am aware I'm a filthy hedonist.

I want others to be deluded into doing great things.

Whois meditating feed sacks?

This. They turned it into new age hippy crap. Actual Buddhism is worth studying and there is some useful stuff in there.

>polytheism
>not a huge sin

Kill yourself my man.

>believe in reincarnation
>not a religion

>>believe in reincarnation
not all branches believe in literal reincarnation, Mr. Park

That is the dumbest looking bimbo I've ever seen.

Also, easiest way to identify a fake buddhist/meditator. They do the thing with their hands that that woman is doing, which is the popular depiction of hand position in media, but no actual buddhists use during meditation.

If someone is an actual buddhist/meditator most often theyll use the dhyana (begging bowl) mudra.

No, that's Jordan Carver. Not a shoop at all, retard

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>it's a nihilistic suicidal death cult
absolutely false

>Is it the most redpilled religion?

it's a religion for queers

>muh suffering
>muh "split the difference" mentality
>muh pious neutralism
>muh faggy nirvana bullshit

the world is built on action

buddhism encourages inaction, nihilism, and massive cognitive dissonance from all the faggot scholars who think they've found the secret to acting as gay possible

every western buddhist is a fucking homo

I'd say they're pretty fucking red pilled considering that they are removing whatever kebabs Atheism, Christianity, Catholics, etc refuse to do.

If someone's white and they're "Buddhists", fuck them.

Spoiled narcissistic rich kids' religion.

>Religion
>Redpilled
You can't think for yourself (being redopilled) while using fairytales as a basis for your morals and life.

>mmm those tities.
why do low IQ progresives dump god but gravitate to budhism, and karma shit?

I see nothing special with budhism, also there are several versions of it floating around, and bizarre practices, like spinning a wheel with prairs written on it counts as praying. or tibbetan prair flags...one flap=1 prayer?

Its perverted in the east too with too much dogma and superstition

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Like most loud atheists its essentially a way to shit on their parents.

Its why they make endless excuses for Muslims while simultaneously calling Christians monsters and idiots. They don't have any particular dislike of religion they just hate their parents and themselves.

That's absurd to say. the whole Eightfold path is pointless if you can just kill yourself to escape suffering. The Tripitaka, the oldest Buddhist canon, is filled with sermons where Gotama goes on and on about rebirth. He says things like "at death, at the breakup of the body, so-and-so finds themself in hell".

Here I went and found it:
>I — by means of the divine eye, purified & surpassing the human — see beings passing away & re-appearing, and I discern how they are inferior & superior, beautiful & ugly, fortunate & unfortunate in accordance with their actions: 'O, how these beings — who were endowed with good conduct of body, speech, & mind, who did not revile noble ones, who held right views and undertook actions under the influence of right views — with the break-up of the body, after death, have re-appeared in a good destination, the heavenly world. Or how these beings — who were endowed with bad conduct of body, speech & mind, who reviled noble ones, held wrong views and undertook actions under the influence of wrong views — with the break-up of the body, after death, have re-appeared in the realm of the hungry ghosts. Or how these beings — who were endowed with bad conduct of body, speech & mind, who reviled noble ones, held wrong views and undertook actions under the influence of wrong views — with the break-up of the body, after death, have re-appeared in the animal womb. Or how these beings — who were endowed with bad conduct of body, speech & mind, who reviled noble ones, held wrong views and undertook actions under the influence of wrong views — with the break-up of the body, after death, have re-appeared in a plane of deprivation, a bad destination, a lower realm, hell.'

Buddhism is a positive influence on societies to which it's native. It discourages degeneracy and nihilism. It encourages respect for ancestors and tradition. It encourages the virtue and higher meaning in life over the pursuit of material wealth and chasing pop culture trends.

When Westerners adopt Buddhism they pretty much leave all that shit out and just make it into "drink green tea and do yoga and meditate and be nice to people" ie follow shitty modern liberal trends.

Most of what you know about Buddhism probably isn't really accurate regarding how it's actually practiced in the Orient. because the way it's been transmitted to the West has been heavily influenced by a few hippie crackpots who popularized it here

Enlightenment can wait, those tits are the real prize.

If you want to boil Buddhism down to something lesser, something like: "We suffer because we cannot control our desires. I will work to cultivate mental discipline so that I might better control my desires and live a life of Ataraxia." Then that's fine, but it's not Buddhism without all the other crap. It's more Epicurean actually.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ataraxia

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>Thank you for Corrupting The Record (TM).
>.01 souls has been deposited to your account.

Buddha was pretty dope. His followers, often less so, but that's not unique to him is it?

Still and all, probably one of the least stupid religions out there.

I don't know how many times I've busted a nut to her

Does Alan Watts give a good representation of Buddhism? youtube.com/watch?v=wU0PYcCsL6o

Here's a hint: not all the branches are as anal about rituals and scripture like Theravada.

Chan/Zen, for instance, has very little ritual and scripture isn't even remotely a focus.

Here's Thich Nhat Hanh proving me right btw: youtube.com/watch?v=zS73WxpBd5k

So again, not all branches take it literally.

It is essentially a "head in the sand" style answer to the problems that every human faces. It's for cucks. A thai forest monk once told me, "Desires are wombs waiting to give birth to suffering". It's such a pussified way to see the world. Nietzche was right, in the way he honored Athenian tragedy. Facing the human condition with eyes wide open and struggling against the dying of the light until our very last breath is far more noble and beautiful. We are unique creatures who have appeared in a universe slowly dying to entropy, but I sure as fuck not gonna just sit down cross my legs and wait for the darkness to take me.

Buddhism is a passive "religion". There are no great Buddhists. No Buddhist explorers, adventurers, politicians etc. It doesn't inspire anything powerful in humans.

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>taoism

Her and Denise Milani have been ruining their bodies for 'fitness' for a couple years now. They're both sticks with balloon tits the last time I checked, to me that's the opposite of a genie weenie

Holy shit that gave me goosebumps, seriously might look into Buddhism now

This. i'd say /thread

If rebirth is not to be taken literal, and when I die my various qualities fade and nothing is reborn, then why bother with the Eightfold path? It takes a gigantic, absurd leap to claim that the Buddha himself, who said things like "Indra rose to lordship over the Devas by paying attention" did not hold Indian views about rebirth. You are essentially ignoring the Buddha's own words and telling me to watch a video of some monk, just to prove your point.

The entire system of Buddhism, sleeping upright in a cell, shaving your head, not sleeping in a bed, eating once a day, etc. was developed in a Indian-centric society to counter the belief that:
>The Buddha said: Which is greater, the tears you have shed while transmigrating & wandering this long, long time — crying & weeping from being joined with what is displeasing, being separated from what is pleasing — or the water in the four great oceans?
If death ended our suffering, then there's no point in doing all of this, we could just shoot ourselves. In traditional Buddhism however, you'd just be reborn, so the Eightfold path was needed. You have to at least see this? Don't try to justify yourself from ego, and just look. It's right there. He believed it. Zen origined in the Tang Dynasty, a thousand years later than the Buddha, and it was heavily influenced by Taoism. Why are you even studying it?

Denise was a real shame

Shut the fuck up, you don't know shit.

Double D Dharma

Not an argument.

Its not a religion. Its a mental exercise for children trapped in adult bodies.

>ignoring the Buddha's own words
If you meet the Buddha on the road, kill him

I'm not reading past this point because you simply don't seem to grap the essence of Buddha's teachings.

But feel free to go tell one of the most respected and prominent Zen Masters that he's wrong and you're right.

You and that Zen master should feel free to go and tell the Buddha himself that he is wrong.

Yes and no. Of course some of the principles of the religion can lead you to that kind of practice. But no more so than in Christianity. Oppositely, Buddhists have been leading the charge against Islamization in parts of Indochina. And in China and Japan literal warrior monks are a real tradition and have played important roles in war.

Because Buddhism doesn't have a central text and is much more ideologically heterogeneous than any Abrahamic religion you really have to just look at how it's practiced and how it influences society on a case-by-case basis by country and by sect. My only first hand knowledge and experience of it is in Japan where I think it's an extremely important bulwark against materialism, nihilism, and degeneracy. It's kind of going the way of Christianity in Europe though which is a real shame.

Watts' does a great job introducing Westerners to Zen Buddhism. Although he's a popularizer and has titled himself a philosophical entertainer for the most part he doesn't come off as too hardcore a "woo" peddler. I enjoy 90% of his lectures. I'd say he's one of the best.

youtube.com/watch?v=4dXlLpsU0ao

You can torrent a lot of his stuff too, or if you're not poor you can buy a ton of it from his families website.

Religion of the soul.

> Is it the most redpilled religion?
Sure. It's absolutely not like it was re-invented from the ground up by British Empire's Blavatskaya, Olcott and co. in the 19th century, it's totally BC Indians, who created all that relatively complex philosophical stuff and just happened to forget it over the centuries!

Eastern (((religions))) were a good buisness back then by the way, goyim.

care to elaborate on your shit opinion?

Buddhism aside, what does everyone thing of the idea of enlightenment? Plenty of secular and atheist intellectuals like neuroscientist Sam Harris believe it's very real

I've been a Buddhist for half of my life. Once you get past the hippy bullshit it's pretty cool. I've been wanting to join a monastery but there aren't any around here. The thing to keep in mind when you're looking at the more religious aspects, like reincarnation or Nirvana or the planes of existence is that the first tenet is detachment. It doesn't matter if you believe in reincarnation or in metaphysical existence and people get attached to those ideas too readily.

100% this. In the west it's basically just a way to identify yourself as a special snowflake. In the east, it's a proper religion, with rules and a worldview.

I don't know, user

Im pretty jew-wise and can see alot of the (((behind the scenes stuff going on))), but I don't really see a connection to oriental shit

In fact, its probably one of the few things untouched by jewery

The concept of being "one" and non-materialism are absolutely red-pilled.

Being part of a major world religion and praying to a make-belief deity? Not quite.

This. Siddhartha never wanted his followers to build a religion around his teachings, and he never wished to be worshiped. Buddhism was bastardized in the east, and then even further so in the West. If Siddhartha didn't say it, it isn't Buddhism. Furthermore, Siddhartha himself said to test out his teachings and see whether it holds true. If it doesn't then throw it away. Take what works and leave the rest,

Pretty much all the religious aspects were co-opted from Hinduism
Buddhism itself is just a philosophy

>Doesn't believe in spooks like God
>Teaches that this world is all that exists
>Teaches self control and discipline
>teaches how to over come suffering
It has taught me how to over come many setbacks in my life

As far as religion goes yes it is the most redpilled
But being anti religious is far more redpilled

which version?

You're approaching Buddhism through the lens of an Orthodox or a Catholic. There is no "one true" Buddhism and it hasn't been "perverted" because it never mandated ideological homogeneity in the first place.

It's a philosophy. I highly respect it

I'd say it's a very real thing.
Nirvana is Samsara, only through the eyes of the enlightened. They say that we perceive reality 56 times through the snap of the fingers. The first instance is the only 'true' image of the real and the others are our filters that the mind creates. Once you truly grasp the idea of 'emptiness' you will pass beyond the Dharma and leave it behind. Lots of meditation and contemplation will lead to this clear state of mind.

Their are two realities, the conventional and the ultimate. This is really interesting stuff.

If anyone is interested in Buddhism, they should definitely start reading Nagarjuna. He's straight up philosophy and it's pretty heavy but rewarding. I'm working my way through his Yukti-Corpus and it's turning me Buddhist.
Wittgenstein and Kant both have some similarities to Arya Nagarjuna's philosophy.

>grasp the idea of 'emptiness'

Forgive my wording. 'Understand' would be better. 'Grasping' is one of the issues with conventional existence. derp

ironically advocating commie shit is still advocating commie shit

Not necessarily straight-up jewery, it didn't have that kind of power back then. It was more of a colonial policy of the Western empires (particularly the Brits) to create and export ideologies with various goals in mind, sometimes to weaken competitors (see: socialism), sometimes to ensure that conquered locals are too busy among themselves (eastern religions, artificial ethnic conflicts) to try and rebel against their overlords. Not everything was necessarily created with a specific goal in mind, it often was a side bonus of some "spiritual entrepreneurs" working for their own benefit. Time and time again the "Wisdom of the East" schtick sells like hotcakes in the West, and it was the same several centuries ago.

Thanks leaf, I'll give these a look. Do you think that Buddhism or other eastern religions like Taoism, Jainism, or confusion-ism are authoritarian?

I wouldn't say authoritarian, but there is a bizarre tradition in the Mahayana sect that I'm somewhat involved with where the master's words are gospel. I don't follow this at all, but the Chinese group that's here (monks and lay-people) basically worship the head of their division. Right now it's a (fairly attractive) woman who writes songs about the Buddha. They get all emotional when she's around and so forth. I take this 'close-minded' worship with a grain of salt. There are still lots of 'religious' traditions and things that go on, but the heart/philosophy of Buddhism is very powerful.

BOOOOOOOOOOOBS

Filthy buddhist barbarians will never know the true redpill

Buddhism wouldn't exist without prior Indian religion in the first place.

lmao even her nude pics look shooped.

still not convinced until I see a video.

>Teaches that this world is all that exists
>Having engaged in bodily misconduct, verbal misconduct, & mental misconduct, he — on the break-up of the body, after death — reappears in the plane of deprivation, the bad destination, the lower realms, in hell.
wew

BOOBS!

>implants

Woa, magic powers is one of the Ten Benefits of Buddhist practice
>He wields manifold supranormal powers. Having been one he becomes many; having been many he becomes one. He appears. He vanishes. He goes unimpeded through walls, ramparts, & mountains as if through space. He dives in & out of the earth as if it were water. He walks on water without sinking as if it were dry land. Sitting crosslegged he flies through the air like a winged bird. With his hand he touches & strokes even the sun & moon, so mighty & powerful. He exercises influence with his body even as far as the Brahma worlds.

And he can hear God talking
>He hears — by means of the divine ear-element, purified & surpassing the human — both kinds of sounds: divine & human, whether near or far.

>neuroscientist Sam Harris

Holy shit I'm laughing.

And he can remember his past lives! Heh someone should tell Gotama that rebirth is just a silly metaphor because some chink monk said so
>He recollects his manifold past lives (lit: previous homes), i.e., one birth, two births, three births, four, five, ten, twenty, thirty, forty, fifty, one hundred, one thousand, one hundred thousand, many aeons of cosmic contraction, many aeons of cosmic expansion, many aeons of cosmic contraction & expansion, [recollecting], 'There I had such a name, belonged to such a clan, had such an appearance. Such was my food, such my experience of pleasure & pain, such the end of my life. Passing away from that state, I re-arose there. There too I had such a name, belonged to such a clan, had such an appearance. Such was my food, such my experience of pleasure & pain, such the end of my life. Passing away from that state, I re-arose here.' Thus he remembers his manifold past lives in their modes & details.

What kind of Taoism do you practice?

Instead of begging a deity for help whilst simultaneously living in perpetual fear of it you're just chilling out whenever you would have been praying.

It's a much more pleasant and mellow way to live.

>The ultimate pussy religion
>Redpilled
No.
Stop throwing that word around every 30 seconds.

What was her deal anyway. Fake or real?

>you're just chilling out
lol

Escapist Nihilism

>Acceptance of reality
>Ultimate pussy

Interdasting

My nigga.

turning buddha's philosophy into a religion and worshiping him even though he specifically said not to is fundamentally against the point of Buddhism. you also shouldn't compare religions to philosophies.

The only religion determining its philosophies by actually thinking about them.

where'd you hear that bullshit

Lived in Thailand for years. 95 % Buddhist, only time they go to the temple if for better lottery numbers.

You can learn things from it without following it, but I wouldn't call it red pilled.

>I know nothing about religions
>and they're all wrong
And you even post a line of whores.

>boobs hanging down
>nipples somehow still on the front

not really the most redpilled...just the best overall imo

Religion, in any shape, form and size. Is use to sedate and pacify. Religion is the opiate of the masses.

Daily reminder.

It's just Christianity for us orientals, the exception being that it holds zero tolerance for kebabs and some know kung-fu (Shaolin)

As a baptised Catholic, in my journey into and out of Buddhism, I learned a couple of things.

It is pretty much escapist nihilism, and another poster said. It had great wisdom and mental practices, and actually a lot of Catholic clergy respect and practice elements of Buddhism.

However, it does not offer salvation. This is where it becomes nihilism.

And, as I began to study the Western tradition of philosophy and religion - going back to the Greeks - I learned that many nuggets of "Eastern" wisdom can be found in the West just as well, and often earlier.

Buddhism got a great push in the West in the 60s and the 80's because of those who wish turn us away from our Western heritage. Often, the Buddhism one finds in America is a New-Agey bullshit version of a deep wisdom. Anything goes, fuck the West, just sit in a room and ignore the world - this is not Buddhism. In fact, the Thereveda tradition - the more traditional version in the East - is anti=gay and anti-abortion.

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Lol I was gonna say that

>As a baptised Catholic, in my journey into and out of Buddhism
you love believing bullshit, hey big guy?

Some just grow that way. seen a few.

No, I have an open mind. And by applying the same questions and examination to all the major Eastern religions - Hinduism, Taoism, and Buddhism - that I applied to Christianity, Christianity came out as the most philosophically and spiritually sound and rigorous belief system of them all.

Not all of us have the intellect to comprehend the entirety of the universe like you.
Disprove reincarnation please

>Christianity came out as the most philosophically and spiritually sound and rigorous belief system of them all.

>Disprove reincarnation please

Wow, I wish I was smart enough to disprove the existence of God

Those are some fat tits.

Would drink milk from/10

>he doesn't understand that when you make a incredible statement (god exists, reincarnation exists, a giant dragon exists, odin exists, Hogwarts is a real school) that the burden of proof is on you to prove it, not on everyone else to disprove it.
Otherwise you get shit like this:
>Prove unicorns don't exist

Buddhism and fake tits.

This thread is an oxymoron.

That's hardly a refutation

Can you?

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Every oriental pseudo-science ranging from meditation, piercing needles, vacuum glasses and electric shocks are all garbage.

Anyway, we are talking about people that eat rhino/whale penises for increased libido so their arguments are moot.

Meditation actually does have some proven applications. Of course some people still don't react well to it. Turns out if you're really fucked up self-introspection might not be a good idea.

It is impossible to disprove with our current knowledge and technology level. That's the entire problem. If something cannot be disproven, then it is not a valid scientific claim.

What would need to happen in order to prove to you that reincarnation does not exist? If you cannot provide a reasonable answer, your claim is invalid.

>Meditation actually does have some proven applications.
uh huh

like ur mom lol

I would never stop squeezing those boobs

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OP, as always, doesn't make a lick of sense.

Is there truth in Buddhism? yes. Many religions are keen to preaching truth, from their own version of truth. Is it gritty hard truth that doesn't rely on metaphysics? No, its fucking religion you dumb pleb.

Is Buddhism anti-degenerate? Probably considering its traditions and willingness to remove kebab.

Buddhism was influenced by Indo-European religion.
The Germanic branch of Indo-European religion is the most redpilled religion.

loook at this wisdom

>women cannot attain enlightenment

I'd say it's pretty redpilled, still don't get how western women are able to get over that one and still be attracted to yoga

Neuroscience has shown its super beneficial for the brain

>Neuroscience has shown its super beneficial for the brain
uh huh ok i believe u

is this shogon the elegant

Who needs magnificent achievements when you are at peace with all life around you?

It is higly likely that there exists a women who has a higher iq than you.

>Is it the most redpilled religion?
No, most redpilled is somewhere in the area of theories about the dictatorship of the aliens on this planet. But in Buddhism, there are many good practices and philosophical theses.

>when you are at peace with all life around you
just pretending you are at peace
same as drugging yourself
you're just ignoring the real world

it has

whatever man

Sorry user, but meditation is legitimate.
Lots of research into this.

The only way you can deny the benefit of meditiation is to deny the benefit of all forms of cognitive intervention (CBT, ACT, etc).

And then you're literally stating that meditation and introspection and mindfulness are impossible illusions and there is only behaviour. You admit to having no free will. So, in short, go meditate.

>whatever man
no i do believe u

and how to I mediate? do I need to achieve a special state of mind for the benefitory effects to take place?

>Lots of research into this.
i wonder what percentage of neuroscientists meditate on a regular basis? 1%?

Yes, but its not hard.
Easy meditation is focusing on your breath entering your body - the "meditation" part is forcing your focus to remain on it.

The real benefits come from being awareness of your internal processes, ie, when you start having a thought you don't want/ isn't helpful/ isn't driving you towards your chosen goal, you put your conscious awareness in the way and say no.

It's just a way to allow your conscious/executive self more control. It's not magic at all, and I have a deep dislike of any pretense that it has a "spiritual" counterpart. It's just mental hygiene.

I wonder what percentage of people who research exercise go to the gym regularly? 1%?

Beside the point, you don't really need long term meditation to get the benefits of it, you can learn mindfulness in a relatively short period of time.

>Sorry user, but meditation is legitimate.
>Lots of research into this.
>In June, 2007 the United States National Center for Complementary and Integrative Health (NCCIH) published an independent, peer-reviewed, meta-analysis of the state of meditation research, conducted by researchers at the University of Alberta Evidence-based Practice Center. The report reviewed 813 studies involving five broad categories of meditation: mantra meditation, mindfulness meditation, yoga, T'ai chi, and Qigong, and included all studies on adults through September 2005, with a particular focus on research pertaining to hypertension, cardiovascular disease, and substance abuse.
The report concluded, "Scientific research on meditation practices does not appear to have a common theoretical perspective and is characterized by poor methodological quality. Firm conclusions on the effects of meditation practices in healthcare cannot be drawn based on the available evidence. Future research on meditation practices must be more rigorous in the design and execution of studies and in the analysis and reporting of results." (p. 6) It noted that there is no theoretical explanation of health effects from meditation common to all meditation techniques.
>Firm conclusions on the effects of meditation practices in healthcare cannot be drawn based on the available evidence.
hmm yes im still believing u

Buddhism is good, but not the gay pacifist new-agey version, but the religion of the samurai and warrior-monks.

>not taking the Vajra pill

not really the same tho, is it

>A 2013 statement from the American Heart Association evaluated the evidence for the effectiveness of TM as a treatment for hypertension as "unknown/unclear/uncertain or not well-established", and stated: "Because of many negative studies or mixed results and a paucity of available trials... other meditation techniques are not recommended in clinical practice to lower BP at this time.

Bubbism-redpilled on personality and ego. I like it too. For example,
Science and Buddhism Agree: There Is No "You" There
>Evan Thompson of the University of British Columbia has verified the Buddhist belief of anatta, or not-self. Neuroscience has been interested in Buddhism since the late 1980s, when the Mind and Life Institute was created by HH Dalai Lama and a team of scientists. The science that came out of those first studies gave validation to what monks have known for years — if you train your mind, you can change your brain. As neuroscience has begun studying the mind, they have looked to those who have mastered the mind.
While Buddha didn’t teach anatta to lay people, thinking it might be too confusing, the concept is centered on the idea that there is no consistent self. The belief that we are the same one moment to the next, or one year to the next, is a delusion. Thompson says that “the brain and body is constantly in flux. There is nothing that corresponds to the sense that there’s an unchanging self.”
bigthink.com/ideafeed/good-news-science-buddha-agree-theres-no-you

Scientists agree! The mythical atman doesn't exist! The mind is nothing more than a biological process! Stop the fucking presses!

nirvana literally means 'to snuff out', like a candle

the goal of buddhism is to avoid being reborn into this world because life is so horrible

the buddha would of just killed himself but he believed hed just be reborn in a lower form

so he invented all this bullshit 8fold path due to the '4 noble truths' which are basically life sucks and then you die but you are reborn eternally so it doesn't even end how horrible but oh shit nigga if you do this bullshit you can finally die for real and not be reborn in this indian poo starvation land hellhole

the buddha was just a depressed faggot who was trapped in life by folk hindu reincarnation/karmic beliefs

the most absurd aspect of buddhism is the mutual exclusion of there being 'no self' to anything, including humans, and yet humans can be reborn into the world

how can something which doesn't exist or persist, have some sort of karmic score attached to it, and continue on into the next life? makes no sense.

if there is no self then there is nothing to be reborn

yep

>redpill me on x, Cred Forums
>clickbait picture

The self is not what's reborn

>Criticises poor methodologies

Yep, you ever read a meta-analysis on CBT?
Heres a tip : They never mention methodologies for a good reason. Because if they did, they'd have to conclude that what they're considering as "evidence" is not strong enough to warrant prescribing it.

Same as SSRI's. They're massively prescribed but they make a difference, in clinical trials, in around 20-25% of people.

Note also.. that they're not saying that theres no significant result.. just that they don't understand the theory.

>Criticises lack of theoretical explanation

So your criticism is simply "If you can't explain it, it doesn't work!"

Have you ever heard of a little drug called acetaminophen? Most common pain killer. Guess what. They have no concrete explanation as to how it works.

So, by that logic, it doesn't work.

>Particular focus on hypertension CVD and substance abuse

So.. not what anyone is suggesting meditation is for? Find a study where they apply a mindfulness based intervention on depression or anxiety.

Acetominephon has no evidence base as an effective intervention for liver cancer THEREFORE we can conclude it does nothing. Good work!

How about instead of talking shit, you try meditating for a few weeks and see if it makes a difference to you? It's not in any way harmful.

Are women capable of doing anything without been a slut???

Which is Shintoism.
You know people like you are the problem, who do not know shit, confuse religions, and then get ideas like Islam is the religion of peas. You should shut your gorram mouth and knowledge yourself before you try to lecture.

>How about instead of talking shit, you try meditating for a few weeks and see if it makes a difference to you? It's not in any way harmful.
How about instead of criticizing Islam all the time, you try bowing to allah in prayer for a few weeks and see if it makes a difference to you? Bow down with your ass out and send farts to Allah because he needs them to fuel his divine powers. Do it because a scientist somewhere once sait it was pretty cool. I like the Buddha because im cool and trendy but unfortunatly it makes me say some retarded shit like "prove reincarnation isn't real fgt" and stuff like that. I worship a fat chink sitting on a flower.

Sexy little thing isn't she.

what is then?

THOSE DISGUSTING FAKERS

>be me
>get opportunity to interview tibbetan monk (they visit my uni every year in an exchange program)
>ask "what's the essence of the soul, unbridled by worldly attachment?"
>"equality"
buddhists confirmed for egalitarian shills

KEK has blessed your skepticism dear friend, Skept on my brother

noice

HOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOLYYYYYYSHEEEEEEEEEEIT

BRAISE GEG :DDDDD

Those quints?????

it's quite accommodating of nationalism, so it is somewhat redpilled as compared to an 'internationalist' religion like Islam.

Based Mel uncovers the silicon jew

the five skandhas (aggregates)

>nice

kek will grant you the answer.
No need to search for it here. Or anywhere else.

WHAT DOES IT MEAN KEK

also

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Shit get

Wow, such quints, bro.

Kek bless you.

sounds like bullshit
whered you read that

same

He could have meant equanimity/upekkha.

i do often feel that KEK is in my corner

GOTTA JEW FAST, GUYS

kek is the only true religion and most redpilled

SHIIIIITTTTTTTT BUTTFUCK Praise Kek!

PELÉ ES MEJOR QUE MARADONA, BOLUDO!1!1

GTFO, MEU PRETO.
FUCK OUT, SANDNIGGER.

O CHORO É LIVRE, HUE!

PEE POO PEE POO PEE POO

holy KEK

that makes much more sense, his english wasn't so hot either.

goddamn

because he is

checked

nice

He speaks through you.

Please, tell us his prophesies

KEK is manifesting in this thread lads

This, ironically.

It seems to me like you're equating meditation as a skill, with the spiritual bullshit that attaches to it. So, if a religion suddenly took up healthy eating as a core tenet, and you didn't like that religion, you're going to live on twinkies?

Mediation has literally nothing to do with buddhism. It has nothing to do with spiritualism. It is a brain skill.

I'm in no way a proponent for buddhism or indeed any form of religion. However, the skill of meditation has empirically been shown to do SOMEthing, and the underlying mechanism (let's call it mindfulness) has been shown, again empircally, to have positive effects on humans.

And so, I guess if you're so attached to the idea that meditation = omg im believing in a fat chink, well, more power to you? I suppose?

I think this is the first time I've ever seen that picture without the Velociraptor edited in the background.

the dream just reopens somewhere else

Almost no one in the west knows what buddism even is, they think it's some feel good hippy crap without chirstian dogma.
protip:Buddism has more dogma then Christianity.

Of course.

>Heres my evidence

I question your evidence

>I DONT CAAAAAAARE

Good work, user, way to science. Use scientific evidence as evidence against a certain claim but don't apply the scientific method to the claims of that evidence.

You might be religious after all.

implants confirmed to be anathama to kek/jesus

Buddhism teaches no-self. Yet there is reincarnation. Many have the misconception that reincarnation (in Buddhism) is the rebirth of self, however that is a Hindu belief.

In Buddhism, there is no self, and it follows that the self is not reborn.

There is also a misconception of 'no-self'. No-self does not mean 'no person'. The 'self' is sort of like the 'voice' of 'me' in your head. Like a driver behind the car. your entire experience of your experience does not solely belong inside your head.

As such, the 5 aggregates are components of what makes up a person. Akin to the components of a car. So reincarnation is just the cycle of the 5 aggregates, simply because everyone is made up of the 5 aggregates.

Both are fucking faggots imo

where do the new souls come from?

In my experience they're idiots. They believe that monks can fly, in jinxes, stupid shit like that. Maybe full blown monks are pretty enlightened guys, but regular asian practitioners are pretty superstitious and stupid.

I think it's the best religion, cool mantras too
youtube.com/watch?v=yUJucA-mrgE

You guys realize you're one of the only boards that cares about this Cred Forums-tier bullshit? A thread gets derailed by repeating digits of consecutive posts, how much tunnel vision must you have to be so easily distracted!

Cred Forums is so immature

odds are if souls exist there's an infinite amount of them, so you wouldn't need new ones, just keep pulling cards from the deck

kek does not speak through you

Buddhism is super redpilled

the entire experience of your existence*

Reincarnation is interpreted as such, life continually incarnates on this earth. And as your negative karma (actions) carry negative consequences, they perpetuate cycle of false identification with the atman.

Source: Actual Buddhist receives instruction from actual ordained monk.

Bhuddist is the cringes religion in the world
>everything is shit
>existence is shit
>can't get out if it by becoming an hero because of reincarnation
>only true way to finally commit suicide for good is to become a bhuddah

KEK discloses his mysteries to those who are worthy of his mysteries.

Who gives a shit about your Buddhist bullshit, KEK himself is manifesting before our very eyes

Cred Forums cuts through all the bullshit once again and presents the realities

This is another misconception: "life is suffering."

It is a bad translation popularized. The "suffering" is actually "dukkha", which is something like a "bumpy ride".

Basically, it is dissatisfaction. Or rather, 'dissatisfaction' is a better translation.

That does not mean that EVERY moment of life is 'dissatisfaction'.

No they're dirty hippies. Look at the Beatniks if you want to understand Western Buddhism. Just a bunch of drunk hobos that thought they were better than the rest of society when they couldn't hold a job. Bunch of pretentious faggots in love with exotic mysticism who bastardize it and try to incorporate it into their Christian heritage.

I've even seen the opposite and it's no better. Social reject Asians who become born again Christians and somehow think marrying their parents Taoism to the church makes them enlightened. The pretentiousness and ego of these people is truly astounding.

you look so pathetic right now

What is meditation, then? Did it today, don't know what the fuck I am doing. I follow my breath, and when my mind drifts, I bring it back to the breath. I don't understand, but giving it a try. Please enlighten me.

See

Yeah. Every tenth post... but only when it's something you faggots like.
You frogs are the worst cancer to hit this site since myspace showed up here years ago and I hope your mothers all die in their sleep.

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Its another jew religion that tries to teach you about how to live instead of teaching you how to obtain eternal life.

No thank you.

Nirvana is blowing out the candles of desire, and it is not because life is so horrible, it because desire is the cause of suffering, if you can look at life without craving, you can have true bliss instead of pleasure, a monk said it's like appreciating the view of a beautiful flower, without wanting to take the flower.

>my religion is thinking about breath
>mfw someone says this to me

BUDDHA BLESSINGS

just pathetic

begone heretic! Kek shall smite thee!

KEK is alive
our meme is an awesome meme

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No, I have an open mind. And by applying the same questions and examination to all the major Eastern religions - Hinduism, Taoism, and Buddhism - that I applied to Christianity, Christianity came out as the most philosophically and spiritually sound and rigorous belief system of them all.

What were your thoughts on the Pali Cannon and how did you resolve the issue of cultral bias?

i jacked off in a niggers ass

Reminds me of my girlfriends rack. 34J

Thats exactly it. Just keep doing it, eventually you start to get a sense of when your mind is about to start to wander and you can stop it before it happens.

When you can sit and have nothing distract you for 30+ minutes you've made real progress, and you'll be able to apply that to other things in your life, you can apply your focus at your will, not be distracted, etc.

It also allows you to disassociate from things you find unpleasant, like if you're upset you can use the meditation skill to not give a shit about it. Pretty useful.

The ultimate goal is to escape existence because it is suffering, that's not a mistranslation breh

I don't even think of Buddhism (as it's practiced by most Westerners) as a religion. Here Buddhism has been completely separated from it's supernatural aspects, all that remains is the concept of a soul.

Meditation however is a useful exercise to cultivate willpower and control over yourself.

>Here Buddhism has been completely separated from it's supernatural aspects, all that remains is the concept of a soul.
>soul isn't supernatural bullshit
wew

I guess I should've said almost entirely divorced. Best way to describe it is Western Buddhism is more like Stoicism than an actual religion.

Nirvana isn't escaping existence, Buddha said Nirvana is "Nirvana is the ultimate happiness" (nibbanam paramam sukham), so it like a transcendental state of being.

Cred Forums is a Christian board. Fuck off Leftist hedonist trash.

lots of fucking isms in human history
humans love us some bullshit isms

so it's madeup then

>Cred Forums
>worshiping a jew
good joke

KEK confirms again

red pilled fuck of fag

>Not Sufist

>Christianity came out as the most philosophically and spiritually sound and rigorous belief system of them all.
yes

You are a kike. Fuck off to Israel.

funny that 81% of jews say "should be accepted" vs. the 36% evangelicals when it comes from the (((old testament))) book of leviticus.

why are so evangelical christian so fucking gullible?

t. evangelical christian

Well there is no proof of a trancendetal state obviously, but I do like the teachings of Buddha

>69 is yin/yang
I have contacted another god for us

Because jews are children of the devil offcourse they like homosex ,

>why are so evangelical christian so fucking gullible?

god says stone fags in the ot and burns soddom to the ground because they had gay sex there , then this does not mean that god suddenly is oke with homosexual behaviour just because it is the current year.

More proof that the jews are cancer, and of their father the devil

nie prawda bratku

in (the unneeded) defense of the jews, their books are all mythology that are objectively worse stories than those of the greeks or sumerians.

> redpilled
> religion

pick one

The fuck are you on? Buddhism in the West is mostly hippie crap that calls itself Buddhism, but Oriental Buddhism is also pretty estranged from what it used to be. And meditation is a huge part of Buddhism, do you mean that the West has perverted it?

Almost didn't see the flag

Buddhists sit around and do nothing all day.

>Meditation has literally nothing to do with buddhism
>meditation isn't a skill - it's a brain skill
wat

How I read that: "We picked a topic that someone would pay us to research, and we made it vague enough that we could still get citations after we found nothing"

fuck yourself with a wine bottle faggot

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All of you who keep saying its escapist nihilism clearly have never really studied buddism or were too stupid to get it

nice flag.

its a real thing and the should be the primary aim of spiritual practice, i believe it is the thing that all religions were originally built around but the core experience of enlightenment was forgotten through laziness or lack of understanding through the centuries.
I believe Jesus or atleast the texts attributed to him were written by someone who was enlightened.

To clarify,
In my understanding of the philosophy the yin and yang symbol of unity is only examined by half in the western world. When you faggots become literate you may find yourself in possession of ancient scrolls translated. Easy mode: the Hagakure - in this account of an era, it is expressed that the faith has no place in the heart of the young, where the strength to make changes is the responsibility. i.e. being a bloodthirsty retainer for the honor of someone other than oneself is an accepted natural path of living. When the bones are weary and the mistakes are made, active atonement for ones experience are then what is meditated upon. The western concept of indoctrinating children, too young to think, into organized religion is this antithesis. Herein lies the strength of this faith. As the texts of gurus and wisemen alike, they all deserve a clear and open mind to approach. The way some of you cockjunkies even attempt to assume this is some kind of fallacy of reflection just shows your naivite. Have your mountain dew pill and Xanax pill, you wouldn't be ready for anything needing discipline for a few lifetimes anyhow.

In conclusion, I've yet to see but maybe one user with a clue on how to approach such an ancient practice. You're all fags, and you bring shame on your minds. If you can't be bothered to read about eastern cultures, then not even hara-kiri can save you. Die slowly of a cancerous Dorito polyp in your rectum - ass hole. (that place you mistakenly put those dicks in)

You misquoted me.
>Meditation has literally nothing to do with buddhism
>Meditation is a brain skill

I put a comma in a weird place so I can see how you made the mistake.

I agree with your analysis of this meta-analysis. Why would anyone think that meditation helps CVD outcomes? Retarded.

it is escapist nihilism for the western mind.

it could not be anything else for this kind of thinking.

one of the greatest things i have learned from biddhism is that you have to earn knowledge.

you have to literally work hard to come to "enlightened" conclussions.

this is what the average joe will never understand since he is sure that he can just absorb knowledge and take what is usefull/discard what is not.

This

What are you fucking retarded!?

It says right there limited understanding of neuroscience and physiology deems this study inconclusive and needs reassessment.

where is this disproof in any realm of science?

two consecutive posts with pents, does this mean Buddha and Kek are one?

I believe that Jordan Carver is a gift from a higher being

We praise KEK for derailing, for keeping us on track.

Praise KEK

Not all of us have the intellect to comprehend the entirety of the universe like you.
Disprove creation by God's hands please

C O L L E C T E D

It's called Zen Buddhism. Pray tell where you learned about Shintoism.