Nazi leaders had genius IQs, but still failed to win

Does this mean that high IQ people aren't guaranteed success?
I thought IQ was the primary predictor of outcomes.
Explain yourself Cred Forums

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>Does this mean that high IQ people aren't guaranteed success?
Of course not. High intelligence obviously increases the odds, but nothing is guaranteed.

This also neglects the fact that there were high IQ leaders on the (((other side))) as well.

Sage

Slide thread

The Nazis were leftists.

great point

also for everyone remember to put sage in options.

>lost
Top Kek
To lose one must disappear sometimes waiting for the right moment to rise again

They got triple teamed by all the other world powers. You can skillfully outplay a numerically superior opponent up to a certain point. But the USA's industrial output kept the Soviets and Bongs afloat until they could weasel a way to get drawn into the war openly.

Still I saged this shit thread. Kill yourself.

>nazis lost
meanwhile, the republican presidential candidate puts Waffen SS men into his ads, gets supported by 14 MoH recipients, 88 generals and admirals, and raises 6 million in funds

american conservatives and nazism are two different ideologies entirely. The report on conservatives IQ is right but the average conservative in america is Ted Cruz or Jeb bush type of supporters.

Hitler was very good at charisma and political chess, but he was a blunder at war. His generals literally tried to kill him over this.

Also, Soviets were way too pissed off to lose.

if only adolf would have been up there too

>failed to win
>6 gorillion removed

>They started shit with all the world powers
>Not a major fuck up

>thinking sage works with an image
I want reddit to leave

>Nazi leaders had genius IQs
according to the nazi ministry of propaganda maybe. just look at that image, not a single nordic on it. are you really surprised that non-whites are incompetent leaders?

>Does this mean that high IQ people aren't guaranteed success?
Of course not dumbass. It just increases your odds. Obviously you have low IQ.

> Haha Jews got gassed
> Holocaust never happened
Make up your fucking mind you morons

lel you actually believe that myth? You are truly the newest of newfriends. Quit pretending and lurk more kid

>Still touting the "Hitler started it rhetoric"
>Implying International Jews didn't

I want kikes like you to get gassed for real this time.

>get rid of the weakest 6 billion jews
>now only the crafty ones survive
>jews craftiness increases 6,000,000%
>get israel
>get USA
>destroy Europe
we sure got those jews!

No. They're geniuses fought against our geniuses, who are primarily in business (and *are* legion) and lost.

>germoney never started operation barbarossa

>nazi ministry of propaganda
Nuremberg judges confirmed for deep-cover nazi agents.

>Barbarossa
>Implying Barbarossa began WWII

Mediocre. Watching you argue is like being back in middle school """learning""" that WWII started to stop Jews from getting gassed and save ann frank in the final level.

You're going to have to get on our level before you spill your bullshit on our board kiddo. Lurk moar.

*extinguishes cigarette on your forehead

>the allies didn't know of molotov-rpbbentrop pact and didn't tell the poles to keep refusing negotiations

>began
who said began? you said a war with ALL major powers. He got triple teamed on 3 fronts because of barbossa.

>I'm going to post a smug anime reaction faec and claim victory and abandon thread
nothing personal kid

I feel like Rosenburg should have a much higher IQ

Mediocre. Watching you argue is like being back in middle school """learning""" that WWII started to stop Jews from getting gassed and save ann frank in the final level.

You're going to have to get on our level before you spill your bullshit on our board kiddo. Lurk moar.

*extinguishes cigarette on your forehead

bump of truth

The allies had generals that were at least as intellingent

Wikiing the first name - Hjalmar Schacht - I found he was not a member of NSDAP, he was an economics/finance nerd and was demoted, imprisoned and encamped for arguing with Nazi normies.
Basically, true Nazis just hate those who dumber than them and those who smarter.

>I thought IQ was the primary predictor of outcomes.

Retard detected.

The outcome of throwing a stone down a hill has nothing to do with IQ.

Gravity is the primary predictor of outcomes.

>let's throw our guys at them until they run out of bullets
>don't you faggots dare take a step back
>let's use trees as barriers against 50 ton war machines
>let's lead cavalry charges against armored vehicles
>let's watch the germans burn warsaw to the ground before doing anything
yeah they were so fucking smart

Dunkirk

Hitler did something wrong

niggas pls

>kike-tier Slav shills on this board
you faggots are bigger Jews than actual Jews

>man face
>no tits at all
>broad shoulder
>recending hairline
>man nose
muh pure aryan wymen
I think I can barely make out her Adam's apple too.
Disgusting

We dont talk about black women, why do you project your beauty standards onto ours?

>no sexual sexual dimorphism at all
If women with male faces is your beauty standards, I think I know just the right night club for you in Orlando.

>no sexual sexual dimorphism
Are you one of those faggots that thinks all faces look alike, so 'muh crisis actors'?

>man face
are you gay?
>no tits at all
not sure if blind, or...
>recending hairline
niggers think having an actual forehead = "receding hairline", nigger science folks

They're clearly different women, but they do look similar. What I said doesn't imply they all look the same, just that males and females look very similar
Her face is similar in structure to a man's face
Her tits are way below average in most of the world
And her hairline isn't that great either
Also, where did you get the idea that I'm a nigger? I don't remember mentioning my race anywhere in this thread...

>>no sexual sexual dimorphism at all
Europeans have a long and distinguished heritage of egalitarianism, even between the sexes. We see women as partners or companions whereas unevolved races, such as the one you belong to, see them as property. While you still waste time and energy competing to establish yourself as an alpha male and claim access to all the reproduction, we have already solved the problem and moved forward as a race to bigger problems.

>smartest one wasn't even a nazi

Really made me think desu

>They're clearly different women
lol, well fucking done favela rat
>but they do look similar
nope, nevermind, you're an idiot.
>just that males and females look very similar
The males and the famales of the same race tend to resemble each other. That's not what you said. You said there was "no sexual dimorphism" and that you saw "a receding hairline". As you can see from the GIF above, niggers don't have foreheads. White people have nearly 25% more brain mas than blacks, and a skull with a much larger space for the forebrain region that controls social behavior, empathy, etc.
>Also, where did you get the idea that I'm a nigger?
You're Brazillian, the chances that you're a nigger are high. Because you're a nigger, you think anyone whose hairline isn't fighting with their eyebrows for real estate has a "receding hairline". Niggers are idiots, they say the things you say. Prove me wrong, post a timestamp -- otherwise you're a nigger based on your posts.

That's hilarious.

>hey schacht join our secret club
>no, i am masturbating to supply-demand charts
>we'll let you be the treasurer
>fine, but i still identify as a fiat currency first and foremost

>be american
>see Brasilian flag
>assume they're black with no evidence
If you don't want your women to look different from you and, as you said, don't care to stablish yourself as alpha and reproduce, why care about women at all? If it's just companionship you're looking for, then go fuck other men.

The smartest ones didn't get caught.
>triggered
Gotcha.

>don't care to stablish yourself as alpha and reproduce
I never said that. My argument was that the monogamous system of marriage, born of necessity and reinforced through cultural institutions and societal demands, had solved the issue of guaranteeing reproductive success. When reproducing is already known to be a certainty you can afford to direct your efforts to greater things.

>You're Brazillian, the chances that you're a nigger are high
Just a reminder that we have very similar demographics. My country is at 50% while yours is at 62%
And of course they're going to resemble each other more than they do other races, but the women in the pictures you posted look like feminine men with long hair. And I'm not really sure on the feminine part.
The "crisis actors" have similar hairstyles, similar facial structures, almost the same body types, the same skin color and they all have the same expression to their faces. I refuse to accept that people can see more than minor/small differences between low quality images of women crying while covering their faces

>The "crisis actors" have similar hairstyles, similar facial structures, almost the same body types, the same skin color and they all have the same expression to their faces. I refuse to accept that people can see more than minor/small differences between low quality images of women crying while covering their faces
>all white people look the same
i think the real issue here is the blindness stemming from your ethnicity

Is reproduction a certainty for you? Do you have a happy wife and children? And what are the greater things you're directing your efforts toward?
>oh noes he used a bad word he must be triggered
not an argument

>No one here knows that the guy who measured those IQ's said that it only confirms that the top people in any high position of power will have high IQ's

>Cred Forums is one person with one set of opinions

Pretty sure yours is less than 50% and we won't be that low for like decades.

>143
>"""high"""

no wonder a jew discovered 'relativity'

>Hillary has a high IQ
>Obama has a high IQ
>Jeb! has a high IQ
>every single relevant political figure in my country has a high IQ
>implying this hard
I don't think that applies to democracies
At least not modern ones

Will you be a darling then and point out to this swarthy jungle monkey what the differences are instead of just calling me a nigger over and over again with no evidence ?

Yes, Obama has a high IQ, no one who hates obama doubts that he is very smart. Thats the whole problem, obama isn't stupid

Let's just say, your IQ is130, you're armed with the most advanced weaponry known to man.
But then you're suddenly swarmed with 100 niggers with an average IQ of 70, they're armed with tec9s. Also, all those niggers are being manipulated by a board of 12 Jews, with average IQ being 120.
Who'd win ?

>thinks IQ scores are universal
Scoring 135 on the Wesschler makes you smarter than 98% of the population. Stop being a Cred Forumslack and try reading some books. At least visit the Psychometrics page on wiki before trying to shitpost.

Jesus, since Canadians took over Australians have been total shit at this.

>no one here saw you post the source of that claim
Well memed, Cucknadia.

>still mad
Stay mad huehue.

I dont think you understand what IQ means

>pretty sure
Shouldn't be without evidence, now should you
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demography_of_the_United_States#Race_and_ethnicity

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Race_and_ethnicity_in_Brazil

You're at 64% while my country is at 48%
Both rounded up, of course

Sorry, its "nuremberg diary"- G.M Gilbert, the one who measured all those IQ's

Cool more retards who think leftism is an economic system

>Low intelligence may lead to a craving for order, authority and hierarchy.

This article must have been written by a nigger. How is order, authority and hierarchy a bad thing? I guess not letting them riot and loot is racist.

>Is reproduction a certainty for you? Do you have a happy wife and children? And what are the greater things you're directing your efforts toward?
Thats the crux of the problem, the system that worked for thousands of years was undermined by an insidious fifth column. Combined with the slow inevitability of demographic replacement, thanks to immigration laws, the biological and former societal mores have left us ill equipped to deal with the present problems. Where once the certainty of marriage anchored the men of the west, now the great anxiety of death without reproduction has poisoned the mentality of the millennials. In the past we would have already been married, we are now left alone and uncertain, paralyzed by the lack of our families and forced to relearn skills and actions that were, in the past, simply unnecessary. The momentum of our march towards progress has ground to a halt, defeated by our inability move a single leg, formerly we were certain in our ability to travel for miles, now we can't even put one foot in the front of the other.

I don't need A FUCKING LEAF to tell me what IQ means, mine is 139.
If only leafposters were banned unless they proved their IQ to be greater than at least 120.

Yeah I might be wrong about Obama, but the other ones still suck ass

>the republican presidential candidate puts Waffen SS men into his ads

what now?

Doesn't matter, it's a dubious claim not more than his opinion. I'm sure he hadn't formally studied whether it was true or not.

>Will you be a darling then and point out to this swarthy jungle monkey what the differences are instead of just calling me a nigger over and over again with no evidence ?
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sexual_characteristics
the lack of a y chromosome is a big thing too

If only Indian posters were banned unless they could prove they shit in a toilet.

8/10 would destroy.

I would like to ask you how IQ relates to your example

>the republican presidential candidate puts Waffen SS men into his ads
Proof?

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He never said you were black, but I think you just proved you were a half-breed with that response

But the claim is true is it not? Same applies for stalin and the top leaders of the communist party at the time. High IQ, to get to a high position in any sphere of power a high IQ is always required.

some intern dun goofed way back in 2015, was almost a category 1 shitstorm but dissipated before it could hit the warm waters of mainstream commie propaganda mills

I've posted it before

Bobby Fischer, dead
Ted Kaczynski, in prison

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>projected insecurity of own's intellectual inferiority through statements of the obvious

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70 million against 34 million tends to swing things a little.

>wet Australian noises
who cares, you're not serious shitposters anymore.

tl;dr

the Jews were more treacherous and dishonorable. There was still some degree of honor in the Western societies back then who weren't permeated with Jewish propaganda.

>what Brazil considers white is white
Wew. I mean I'll admit there are millions of whites in Brazil but I pitty them, especially the ones down in the South. I couldn't imagine what it is to live around favella monkeys. At least our's here in the US are mostly contained without cities. the Mezito spic fucks do bug me though

>burger preaching

Go kid, don't you have to eat your daily burger and then SHART IN MART ?
Or maybe get shot or something ?

Same reason OP is implying that nazi leaders' IQ was supposed to make them win, and demanding answers from Cred Forums when it's just really all about collecting (you)s.

If only American posters were banned until they proved they do not shart in mart

>70 million against 34 million
Okay, where did you get those numbers? both of those seem to be massively inflated

>when it's just really all about collecting (you)s
I've noticed the only people who complain about this seem fundamentally jealous? You sound really beta. Go make a good shitpost, get a bunch of you'e -- don't just complain in my shadow.

No they weren't lol. They were authoritarian and generally conservative with economic practices. The only way in which they could be seen as leftists was when they confiscated businesses from the Jews. Overall, though, the economy was largely conservative. That's why fascism is authoritarian/right, not authoritarian/left like communism.

>too verbose for my vydia learnt english

But wouldn't the certainty of marriage and reproduction degrade women to the position of property just as the tribalistic primitive competition does?
Still, I get what you're saying and I can't really disagree with you on that.
I mean, it could be solved if whites started acting more like Chad Thundercock and less like Nikola Tesla, but that wouldn't do much to the whole stagnating progress problem.

>A bunch of high ranking government officials and have high IQs

Gee wow who would have thought? Where's the founders of the party that weren't chosen to be leaders based on their credentials? Most of these guys are generals and genius tacticians put into their positions and given rank based on their achievements.

tl;dr: Don't believe you're intelligent because you like to LARP as a member of the SS on Cred Forums.

>Tfw theres a few pictures of my blonde mom from the 70's when she was a kid that had pig tails like that
I need to dig up some of those old pics

Basically:

>Poowindaloos desperately clinging to their shart meme
We must've have fucking DESTROYED you faggots over the years. 100 pictures of fat niggers shitting in walmart can ever undo the billions in your subcontinent who live in a civilization built entirely in and on shit.
>youtube.com/watch?v=_peUxE_BKcU

>Still butthurt
Your ass will continue to bleed until you post:
>I WANT POTENT ARYAN SPERM IN MY WIFE'S COOCH
In this thread

>von ribbentrop
>intelligent

It isn't necessarily bad (in moderation, communism and fascism both fucking suck), but people with lower intelligence generally have a difficult managing their lives, so they crave structure. A core feature of this is a strict hierarchy. However, craving a order doesn't necessarily mean you have a lower IQ.

>lower intelligence generally have a difficult managing their lives, so they crave structure
Is this some sort of circle-jerk libertardian meme that intelligent people DON'T desire structure?

Cool another retard who doesn't know what leftism is.
Nationalism = leftist concept that rose up in opposition to monarchy and "vassalism"
Socialism = model of society that was created in opposition to corporatism
Anything revolutionary is left of center.

Basically proves that IQ does not equal intelligence, ribbentrop = disaster

the two girls really do have man faces

Like Indigo children?

The south is every bit as shitty as the rest of the country. They're just in denial
They have skyrocketing violent crime, they're getting more and more leftist, they have all-white favelas, they're separatists even though they depend on the rest of the country more than any other region. They're a big, fat joke. Brasil doesn't have a problem with niggers, we have a problem with nigger culture.
if you ever decide to visit here(if you do, bring money to pump into our economy, we need it more than ever) ride the subway(yellow line is suprisingly comfy) on saturdays. You'll find whites behaving like american niggers do and blacks behaving like american whites.

nazism was a progressive ideology, literally nothing conservative about it

>But wouldn't the certainty of marriage and reproduction degrade women to the position of property just as the tribalistic primitive competition does?
Thats a logical conclusion, and in many cases it might be true, but the circumstances and pressures of Europe were such that women had to regularly assume masculine roles. The need to have someone who you could trust to manage finances, protect the family, and administer the homestead while you were away serving as a feudal levy or raiding christian monasteries for loot created a selective pressure for such women. Over time this created women who, were not only competent, but capable of articulating themselves in persuasive enough ways to advance their societal position. Ultimately we end up with VERY loose gender differentiation because the need for women to do men's work selected for and created women who bore masculine features as an indication of them possessing that trait. Just like how the agrarian revolution allowed cities and division of labor, when you are certain that the affairs at home are managed you can afford to start looking at the big picture.

>I mean, it could be solved if whites started acting more like Chad Thundercock and less like Nikola Tesla, but that wouldn't do much to the whole stagnating progress problem.
That would solve thing int he short term, but in doing so we are essentially just devolving. Bringing back the alpha-beta dichotomy would just be taking our society back to square one. it would be better to remove the wrench in the works of our society than to entirely rebuild it from scratch.

Honestly, the whole right/left discussion seems to be utterly pointless because everyone has their own definition of what's on the left and on the right.

National socialism certainly was a progressive ideology (in the same way Frederick the Great was a progressive ruler, for example.) But to call it leftist seems very silly to me considering leftism is generally associated with internationalism, central-planning economy, and a war against the upper classes and the peasants. Hitler's system was nothing like that.

>implying Serbian women look more feminine
OK Tito.

>implying serbian "women" aren't all trannies

I like it how you ignore every question I make and then pick some random post to call me butthurt without a reason.
Makes it look like you're desperate.

you triggered the 1/86th german fatmerican germaboo

i see

obviously your a dunce when it comes to military strategy. defending is more difficult than attacking. on defense you have to guess where the enemy will attack based on logic and understanding your enemy

but they can always go all in on a position and overwhelm it while you have to defend your territorial boarders or you will have blind spots . they will test your perimeter for weakness before any major attack

also the germans over extended. even taking in italian forces and spanish forces they couldnt hold that much land at 1 time. fucking a swath of the middle east and most of europe

this forced them to be spread to thin to be effective. so while they blitzed very nicely they couldnt hold it

High IQ doesn't guarantee success.

FunFact: 88% of A students end up working for the B & C students.

>Does this mean that high IQ people aren't guaranteed success?

Not anymore. They diagnose most of us with autism spectrum disorders to ensure the Reich doesn't happen again.

>this fucking buttrage
I'm sorry, I don't hear anything about potent Aryan seed in your wife's daughter. Try again.

Pic related, average Brazilian "woman"

>be smartest one
>realize if NatSoc loses war you might get hung
>fake treason as a back up

Schacht was a naziboo but smart enough to not to go down with the ship.

He had no real plans to take out Hitler just enough documents to get him out of trouble.

Those women fought harder than your men.

>T. William Shirer

How was Ribbentrop a disaster?

hehehe

No they didn't.
Our soldiers who fell in the field in 1940 (300k of them) were given military honors by the Germans and De Gaulle and his tank units pushed back the Germans but ran out of fuel and the government refused to resupply him.

Kind of pointless to discuss history with Americans anyway since they only learn propaganda.

Well, to be fair, the French SS were some of the most heroic. They were executed shamefully by the cowardly puppets working for Eisenhower.

youtube.com/watch?v=9Rtb0l6wq5s

welcome to classical beauty

I make ironic jokes about the Jews getting gassed, and I don't feel bad about it because I know it never happened. What do you think I am, some kind of horrible person?

im all for trannies and boipussi
but this is getting out of hand!

Kind of pointless to discuss history with Frenchmen anyway since they only learn the koran.

>high IQ people aren't guaranteed success
they aren't, but they should be

>No they didn't
Well, at the end they did.

>Hellstorm - Post-war Genocide of Germans
youtu.be/qkQ6J5F01Do
youtu.be/TsOouDLL_EA
youtu.be/LwAYgjG6SkM
youtu.be/P2bCCHKzDEQ
>According to Time Magazine in September 1945,
>the government provided soldiers with 50 condoms a month,
>and graphically showed how to use them.
>Soldiers were being told "Teach these Germans a lesson,
>and have a wonderful time!"
youtu.be/Xdr4-B0q19E

Thank you, I thought I was going insane for thinking these women aren't really feminine

Maybe devolving is the answer.
Maybe that's what will unfuck whites and the west in general
Society does that every now and then. You said it yourself:
>the circumstances and pressures of Europe were such that women had to regularly assume masculine roles
I mean, you can't get outbreeded if you're the one doing the outbreeding.
I think we can accept that segregation isn't a very likely scenario so soon and neither is mass deportation of citizens due to their race or religion, so why the hell not give it a try and try to make it in life?

Makes sense

ooh, fuckin rekt

yeah, all y chromosomes in france left with the foreign SS volunteers

You do realize that the Quran was Hitler's bed book, right ?

lol here we go, kike detected

>inb4 muh Hitler was a Muslim

>Maybe devolving is the answer.
Aposematism is rarely a good idea, those traits were lost for a reason.

>Society does that every now and then. You said it yourself:
The difference being that this was caused by what is essentially a social parasite. I'd rather drink some quinine than get a hepatectomy.

>I mean, you can't get outbreeded if you're the one doing the outbreeding.
I think that its a good idea to steer as far away from r-selection as possible. Choosing quantity over quality is how you get africa.

> so why the hell not give it a try and try to make it in life?
Thas what we're doing, we want to keep the system that worked for millennia rather than give up and hope the next one is better.

what a retard you are

You do realize that the SS were the French womens' bed warmers, right ?

>alboo abloo ur a weetodd
I guess I win.
>inb4 muh Hitler was a Jew

Adolf Hitler - Self Hate?
rationalwiki.org/wiki/Adolf_Hitler#Self-hate.3F

Ancestry of Adolf Hitler
history1900s.about.com/od/hitleradolf/a/hitlerancestry.htm

The Fake Legends of Adolf Hitler's Jewish Grandfather
carolynyeager.net/fake-legends-adolf-hitler’s-“jewish-grandfather”

Hitler Jewish?
holocaust-history.org/questions/hitler-jewish.shtml

Hitler Was a Jew / ((((((Rothschild)))))) Debunked in Under Sixty Seconds
youtube.com/watch?v=hE0gu5cjwCo

Jew or Not Jew: Adolf Hitler
jewornotjew.com/profile.jsp?ID=358

Lineage of Adolf Hitler
en.metapedia.org/wiki/Lineage_of_Adolf_Hitler

Was Adolf Hitler Jewish?
jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/Holocaust/hitlerjew.html

Was Adolf Hitler of Jewish or ((((((Rothschild)))))) Origin?
semiticcontroversies.blogspot.com/2013/04/was-adolf-hitler-of-jewish-or.html

Was Hitler Jewish?
hnn.us/article/142825

I honestly don't know why the anti-Whites even want to make the claim that Hitler was Jewish. I mean, they want us to believe the "worst person to have ever existed" was a Jew?

Though, one has simply to look at the level of vilification the judeo media aims at hitler to make one question anything they'd ever say regarding the matter.
They want us to believe that Hitler was/had:
>Was Jewish
>Was Black
>Had One testicle
>Was a pedophile
>Was incestuous
>Had micropenis
>Was a drug addict
>Was a carpet eater
>Was into watersports
>Was into scat
>Was homosexual
>Took female hormones
>was insane

I don't know where you're going with that.
Or is sex forbidden between French and German people ?
Better tell that to the Alsatians.

see you're throwing a tantrum and moving the goalpost to something completely unrelated when it's a fact that Hitler and many members of the nazi party had a strong fascination for Islam.

Dude. Americans killed German POWs to stage the footage. The Holocaust was literally the "burnt sacrifice" its name meant - by Jews, through your hands, against us who refused to serve. It wasn't winning. We did all we could to stop you godless "allies", now please don't remind us of our pain.

>you're MOVING THE GOALPOST
>WAAAAAAAH!
hahahahahahaha! Frogfriend, you're just getting rekt son. It's not us being mad at you, it's just the pain you feel getting destroyed. This is what happens when you peddle bullshit around people that debunked your bullshit 6 gorillion times before. Find a friendlier board if this one rustles you.

>>>/hist/

Some of those werent even nazis
Schacht was dismissed quickly as soon as his usefulness expired

I don't know what the fuck you're going on about, at the Charles Martel "memorial" in Poitiers they literally use quotes from Ahnenerbe members to praise Islam and shit on Martel.

you mean germany shot and killed american pow, which jodl admitted was just plain murder?

Please do not hold anything from the Nuremberg trial as having any value for most of it was obtained under torture or duress.

I know this is JIDF CTR

But you know who they fought? Other intelligent white people and Zerg at the same time.

You can smash a intelligent person with a stone as much as you can a dumb person. IQ doesn't make you invincible it just helps to be smarter.

How do I be as smart as Goering?

Notice how Hitler isn't on that list?
There's only so much you can do if you don't have a competent leader.

What said. Consider: Patton fell into depression after WW2 because he felt he had destroyed "what could have been the greatest state in Europe". Three days after committing this to writing he dies in a car crash. (((Eisenhower))) takes over, opens the Rhine Meadow Camps and has his prisoners thrown inside; about a year later the Holocaust footage starts showing up, making it "socially unacceptable" to give the enemies of Wall Street a fair shake ever again - and we're supposed to believe the SS just really liked to dress up as Allied soldiers while gassing Jews? Yeah, no. They may have mostly destroyed the documents, but we remember.

I forget where i heard it but having an IQ above 110 does not give you any advantages.

>IQ means nothing see how the Nazis made the dumb decission to become the inevitable target of competing powers and joined the war and tried to take back occupied German land and therefore started WW2? Pretty dumb hu?

>muh assnazi jew IQ that doesn't even have scientific basis! Smartest choosen people! See we got royaly fucked by the Nazis. Attacked the Germans with 4:1 superiority in commie revolution and lost. 6 Million dead in WW2. Proof we are so smart we make the others jelly!

Fly a biplane, get shot, and do opiates for 3 decades.

>Hitler
Drug addict, had sexual relations with his niece

>Roehm
Fat, faggot

>Goring
Morbidly obese, owned a luxurious estate where he participated in obscene orgies

>Dirlewanger
Pedophile, led a batallion of gypsies, POWs, mental patients and convicted rapists who participated in monumental savagery

>Himmler
Wewuzian pagan occultist, muslim lover

>Heydrich
Absolute beta who was bullied in school, looked like a Jew to the point other kids called him a kike when he was a schoolboy

>Goebbels
Physically deformed and sickly, also a manlet

>Kaltenbrunner
Serial adulterer

>I don't know what the fuck you're going on about
You can't spell "banal" without "anal".
>I know this is JIDF CTR
Really? Are you sure it's not the Berniebros after our Good Boy Points? Are you sure it's not the JIDF, the MIDF, the RIDF, or the LGBTBBQIDF?

you're such gullible, fragile little bitches.

>primary
>only
Everyone who replied to this thread needs to commit suicide

The red army's grand strategy was to choke machinegun nests with the limitless bodies of their own soldiers. it worked.

>Wessel
Lived together with a literal brothel whore, was most likely her pimp

>Mengele
Creepy sociopathic fuck

>Rosenberg
Another wewuzian pagan occultist who preached ""Positive Christianity"" with Nordic Jesus, planned to eliminate Christianity altogether (including banning the Bible and replacing all crucifixes with swastikas)
Was probably like 1/4th German too.

>Keitel
"His sycophancy was well known in the army, and he acquired the nickname 'Lakeitel', a pun on his name (in German, the word 'Lakai' means 'lackey')."
"General Ludwig Beck complained that he was incapable of giving Hitler the reality of the situations and was an extremely poor tactician whose decisions were motivated more by ensuring his own survival rather than that of the troops. Marshal Paul Ludwig Ewald von Kleist labeled him as nothing more than a "stupid follower of Hitler", and most commanders went out of their way to ignore his orders"

>Rust
"Considered by many to be mentally unstable, Rust would spuriously create new regulations and then repeal them just as quickly."
Also believed non-Aryans couldn't do science properly and trashed the theory of relativity etc

>Ribbentrop
Quite probably the worst diplomat in modern history, literally hated by everyone but Hitler because he was a master asskisser like Keitel.

>Göring 132
[doubt]

Germany lost the war because of Goering.

look it up

oh ok, thanks for informing me I'm definitely going to do it now

those aren't 'genius' iqs, boys, even if that's actual word used to describe their range.

i'd come in fifth, and my iq was 'get through an ivy league school fairly easily' level. i don't actually know this, but i'm pretty sure ground-breakers, whatever the term is, in sciences, even in economics, are generally around 150.

being a few points above the 99% floor just isn't that special. i can attest.

>those aren't 'genius' iqs
This is the most common response from Cred Forumstards who think they can signal that they have any kind of authority or expertise in psychometrics.
>being a few points above the 99% floor just isn't that special. i can attest.
lel, of COURSE you can. Scoring higher than 98-99 percent of the population is a genius IQ. If it isn't, then there is no such thing.

there's a disconnect between what that word genius commonly means and what it means as an iq classification. people in the mid one-thirties just aren't, ON AVERAGE, creating anything spectacular. the top five 'smartest' class-compositions i was in in college would roughly match up with the top of that nazi iq chart. yes, we were/are bright, but not breathtakingly so, and none of us are taking over the world, although many are finding success.

what do the top twenty iqs of the ww2-era european scientists the US poached to develop weapons look like compared to these numbers? i'm assuming von neumann alone was double-digits higher than the top of this chart.

>there's a disconnect between what that word genius commonly means and what it means as an iq classification
no, no, no -- in psychometrics, genius is a non-technical term that only ever refers to your percentile of population in terms of a bell curve. You're trying to shoehorn in the popular culture sense of the word with what it means in psychometrics. Its nonsense if you do that.
>people in the mid one-thirties just aren't, ON AVERAGE, creating anything spectacular
That's not true at all. In fact, they are quite literally the ONLY creators in society. You're mischaracterizing or misunderstanding the significance of being in the 130's -- probably because, like most millenials, your familiarity with IQ stems from your experience taking "IQ tests" on social media sites, or the like. Those aren't valid tests. Everyone who takes them scores 130 or higher, giving them an inflated sense of their potential; that's what makes them great as clickbait apps.

People with 130 IQs are the majority of engineers, STEM field workers, technicians, and philosophers. People with IQs higher than 140 are rare because they also tend to correspond to increased schizoid type disorders. Not saying you're necessarily insane if you're above 140, just saying it's likely the case that so few of us are because we grow more vulnerable to instability as we approach a certain threshold. In any case, there's reasons of the same nature behind the fact that we didn't evolve higher average IQs, some kind of equilibrium is likely at play.

>inb4 you contradict everything I said

this is Cred Forums after all... fuck it gets boring here...

You don't really have to have a high IQ to be an entrepreneur or invent something. There's actually very little correlation between IQ and wealth based on one study I read. It's more important that you act as an outlier and think for yourself (Even if you're a moron)

the deciding factor of war between in conventional warfare is the ability to get boots on the ground, and the resources and manufacturing to supply and mechanize that army. the moment america started helping the allies germany was doomed since their numbers are not only lower but their ability to manufacture is completely outclassed compared to america and an america supplied russia and britain

>the camel toe is real boys

never taken an online iq test, never would. parents had us tested, me three times, child, adolescent, post-college (this one was expensive, and very extensive), 135 each time. my only weakness was math-processing speed, only in the eighties, and i only found that out after college, never did math past the calc requirement in school, too lazy to pursue something that wasn't effortless.

yes, we're throwing around two definitions of genius, but they both mean something. you can't compare a classroom-sized group of leaders to a massive population-sized sample and say those twenty guys are going to crank out "genius" product with their one-thirties iqs like the populace is. not going to happen. the smaller the group is, the smarter it has to be. i'll bring up the atomic scientists again - i have no idea what their iqs were, but they were likely tens of points higher than this crew.

i don't want to demean being in the one-thirties. i've edited other students' essays in college and had 'wow-this-kid's-a-fucking-retard' moments. and those kids were probably in the one-twenties. but that ten or fifteen point difference isn't as pronounced as when you get fifteen or twenty points higher than the one thirties.

mental illness (hello), college major, gender, etc, have nothing to do with this discussion, at least as far as i'm concerned. i'm talking about this specific group of male nazis and how their iqs were blatantly not high enough to be considered superlative, even if they match that psychometric criteria.

they should've been, and probably needed to be, smarter.

>you can't compare a classroom-sized group of leaders to a massive population-sized sample and say those twenty guys are going to crank out "genius" product with their one-thirties iqs like the populace is
That got a bit gibberish at the end, but I get the impression you're rooted in a feeling that certain IQs are elite because of their productive capacity. It reminds me of the kind of perspective a lot of Molymeme's or Bill Whittle's fans wind up with -- that if you have a high IQ there is this seemless or natural outpouring of economically successful productivity. Am I right in assuming that's a significant influence in your philosophy on intelligence, one of those libertarian assumptions?

The point I'm making is, 130+ is so rare, that at the most productive levels of society, the creative class (especially in technical fields) is almost entirely composed of the 125-135 range. 140 and up is so rare, you would have a hard time even finding it amongst research scientists who are regularly published. A person scoring that is likely a bit of a celebrity, or living in some kind of crippling mentally dysfunctional state -- or both.
>mental illness (hello), college major, gender, etc, have nothing to do with this discussion
you entirely missed the significance of all these things as they've been mentioned so far. You get that I posted the "IQs by major"chart to give you a sense of how frequently, say, a 130-135 IQ person is going to be an engineer. I assume you have some sense of how many physics, maths, or engineering majors graduate as a percentage of each graduating class.

The percentage is conspicuously small.

Ok dude, have a good night, I have to go to work.

i've never heard of those libertarians, and have no interest in iq beyond this thread, but yes, that sounds like my POV. hadn't thought about it, but i guess it comes from reading personal accounts of economists either in papers or book-intros in college. the impression i formed is that nobel-level breakthroughs were typically made by circa 150 iqs.

from this same POV, i'd argue you're overstating the rarity of 130+ iqs in civilized, productive, elite society. at my school, 'ranked' top five in the country, they were probably common, though admittedly, still above average. i didn't traffic in 'women's studies' circles so i'm not super-familiar with the low end. but i and others at my level didn't measure up to the few actually 'brilliant' kids. not even that close, really. i didn't grow up with insane levels of wealth or privilege (engineer parents), but i do consider probably eighty percent of mankind subhuman. can't help it. to me, being in the one-thirties is more like being in the top fifteen percent, or something, and in the town i grew up in and the schools i went to, i doubt that feel is far off the mark.

and the higher standard for genius should be applied to these nazis. small group of elites running a country trying to impose its will on a continent. throw me in there, i'm the fifth-smartest guy in the room. that doesn't cut it.

>plebs still falling for the left/right false dichotomy
Anyone with a brain knows that Hitler's Germany can't be placed on the traditional left/right spectrum and even the Germans hailed it as a "third position" back then.

Also for all the retards defining fascism as right wing authoritarianism read Liberal Fascism by (((Goldberg))). Not that I'd expect any of you meme spouters to read books.

Hitler was a horrible military leader. He was good in allocating resources for armed forces but he never should have taken in charge when it came to major strategic plans. The generals were totally based and would have won without hitler.

This is common problem with authoritan/dictatorship modern armies.

But at least they had good uniforms.

>The generals were totally based and would have won without hitler.
where does this meme come from, some really popular cucky book about the 3rd Reich? For every example I've ever found where Hitler overruled his generals (and the times were few) he was right more often than they were, and they famously disagreed with EACH OTHER. So which generals should he have listened to, because they didn't even listen to each other?

youtube.com/watch?v=E8raDPASvq0
>youtube.com/watch?v=l85RvOvtMsw

>106
>High IQ

That can't be right.

Your country's average is less than 106, so it's high compared to the UK.