If they are not honoring the American flag what flag do they serve?

If they are not honoring the American flag what flag do they serve?

In any other country now or decade in America they would be considered Traitors, what changed that these Traitors are honored by millions?

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>If they are not honoring the American flag what flag do they serve?
>In any other country now or decade in America they would be considered Traitors, what changed that these Traitors are honored by millions?
What part of 'freedom' don't you understand?
If you believe in freedom, you have to support people practicing freedom. You don't have to agree with them, but you have to support their ability to practice freedom.

>serving anything other than yourself

>You don't have to agree with them, but you have to support their ability to practice freedom.
inb4 all of US state secrets are sold to other countries ina form of protest to practice their freedom.

>What flag do they serve

>what flag do they serve?
>being an NFL player is a government job

Underrated

I don't agree with the reason they are doing it, but the fact that they can do it is why we are the greatest country in the world. Now fuck off

Good thing you're staying on your shithole island instead of being born here.

>inb4 all of US state secrets are sold to other countries ina form of protest to practice their freedom.
Do you equate selling state secrets with a political protest of the national anthem? Please tell me you are not that stupid.

Ikr bro? Why do people always have to concern themselves with spooks. So what if he didn't fucking pledge allegiance to the flag, he's only looking after himself and believing what he deems right.

This is what individuals do, and if you don't like that you're better off living in some sandnigger cuck area where everyone is a collective for the state.

my sides!!!

>, but the fact that they can do it is why we are the greatest country in the world
by your logic maybe we start getting athletes who just walk on the field and shit on the flag to show how patriotic they are.

Literally satanism
Our purpose is to serve the Lord our God

That would be public indecency, which is against the law. Try harder next time

because its ridiculous to call that treason?

so your saying your placing limits on freedom now fasist? or whatever the word is... or you mean all we need is a law so people dont shit on the flag of their country their in.

Hooray for them expressing their first amendment rights.

You are very dumb but I am going to try one last time.

The indecency comes from showing your ass in public while shitting. Shitting on the flag at your own home isn't a crime, nor should it be.

Burning the flag is not a crime, nor should it be. We are better because we don't force people to stand and honor a flag or else they are beheaded like some Muslim call to prayer.

Shit posting like this means you probably serve the flag down under.

Fuck off with your bullshit.

I, and many others, have the right to believe and say that what they are doing is disrespectful.

They have the right to do it anyway as an act of expression.

If you can't comprehend the basics of why America is awesome, kill yourself for real, or have someone do it for you, because I don't trust you to be capable of doing it right yourself

>The indecency comes from showing your ass in public while shitting
so disrespecting the flag of a nation that millions lived and died for and have families in those stadiums isnt indecent?

nice try, but we gotcha!

>The indecency comes from showing your ass in public while shitting

What if it's a designated shitting street senpai?

>Foster doesn't stand for anthem
>blows out his knee and his career is over
karma

>we

>taking hyper-nationalism this serious.


Amazing

>If you can't comprehend the basics of why America is awesome
Im not comprehending how what their doing is something they should have a right to do, Maybe im just old fashioned and more traditional but I think we need laws and swift harsh punishment for not honoring the flag.

I support these "protests." White sportscucks need to understand that the dindus they worships so much hate them and hate their values.

I don't personally care what sports players think of the flag or the anthem, since I don't really regard them as "my countrymen" to begin with. We're not part of the same "nation," even though we live in the same geographic entity.

A lot of whites - especially Boomers - don't understand this. They think that blacks are basically whites who merely need a bit of education about George Washington or something to become great patriots.

They don't understand the prewar-Yugoslavia nature of modern America.

They're on private property performing a function as paid entertainers. So no, there's no free speech issue here.

>They don't understand the prewar-Yugoslavia nature of modern America.
i dont think anyone understands this reference, are you Dennis Miller makying obscure references to things none of us common folk can understand? plz explain Dennis.

I'm torn. On one hand
>they're niggers nigging
On the other hand
>I hate that shitty looking flag and America sucks

Letting uppity niggers have freedom is the absolute worst mistake this country has ever made. It's literally the cause of almost all the problems in modern America.

Yugoslavia was a meme country composed of numerous different Balkan cultures which did not go well together, so there was extreme cultural tension. When Tito and the commies came into play after the war, this tension was dulled because of the whole oppression thing

Individualism doesn't exist retard

>assumes that all human beings must exist to serve a colored rag. If not the one then one of the others.

No, you idiot. It's not about honoring the flag, the flag is just some cloth, a colorful fetish.

If there is a country worth honoring it's the one that stands, not for a colorful fetish and a civic religion, but for having enshrined freedom of speech and of conscience in its most basic law.

The Constitution. You know, that bit of paper you bow down to 3 times a day but would never be so presumptuous as to read?

This, "country" you refer to must be maintained by a virtuous people. It seems to really only happen with homogenous societies, and niggers just don't seem capable of this.
I.E. Rhodesia and slave descendants.

your dubs speak truth user, kek be willed I can not ignore what you typed. It would be awesome to have a better flag.

Id like one with an explosion on it like a nuke or something, but something cool.

>but for having enshrined freedom of speech and of conscience in its most basic law.
I get what your saying, but that sounds like a bunch of gay words faglord.

ahhh I see well I dont get the reference, are you saying we need to oppress black people? arent we doing that already im pretty sure checking my invisible backpack.

Hey, I didn't vote to make them 5/5 of a person and get 100% of their rights.

I'm speaking more universal here. Of course it's only black people doing it, but if you curb the rights of everyone because of some shit idiot niggers do, well there's goes all the fun because nigs have never found a law they can't wait to break. Even Michael Jordan nicknamed himself "Air" cause he didn't want to admit gravity is real.

Because their skin is the color of my turds.

This one is good..

I can't wait for some opportunist to help draw viewers away from the NFL so this sport dies.

>NFL so this sport dies.

You're stupid as fuck.

Negroid and non-White racialist tribalism. Early Americans did not enslave other Americans, they enslaved African foreigners who were later granted U.S. citizenship.

its not a bad flag but already been done, its 2016 we need something fresh.

>they enslaved African foreigners who were later granted U.S. citizenship.
how do we take that away legally from all african americans is my question? the best thing we can is to take away all of their basic human rights then give them back calling it reperations. We might need to do that ever few generations it seems.

I would just boycott these fuckers. The main reason the NFL is promoting this bullshit and allowing it to happen is because nobody is hitting them in the one place they care: their wallet. If people showed that they won't go to NFL games where the players refuse to engage in the national anthem, you can fucking bet they're going to force those niggers to stand or kick them off the team.

But no, they will be lauded as heroes because they're black and black people are basically children in the eyes of America and can do no wrong.

I'm not disputing their "right" to do it, just pissed off that so many Americans are so indifferent and supportive of this spoiled and traitorous behavior. Supporting a symbol of self hatred and idiocy.

Holy ooga booga.

Get the fuck out of here ya blue gummed moon cricket.

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How about ditch the stupid tree and replace with swastika?

They should be dragged out back, shot and thrown in a ditch

>because nobody is hitting them in the one place they care: their wallet.
What if the ratings are going up due to the media circus thus generating more revenue? Is this possible? Same thing was with Fembusters recently which made over 100 million in just 4 weeks. thats alot of money user.
Heh, doesnt anyone wanta super cool flag? What about one with a lion on it made out of a nuclear explosion?

Why are you talking about football

I cant way until these negro sports memes die

>I cant way until these negro sports memes die
There are 3 white people in that picture though, their not all black?

>What if the ratings are going up due to the media circus thus generating more revenue?

I wondered the same, but after looking it up apparently people have been protesting these teams engaging in this spoiled, stupid shit and NFL ratings have actually reached their lowest in like a decade due to this idiocy. Good.

This.

Are you actually trying to appear superior because you're fucking dumb?

>apparently people have been protesting these teams engaging in this spoiled, stupid shit and NFL ratings
Nice work looking it up what did you find? From articles and those arent facts but they report that people like Kapernick are making the teams millions in jersey sales so maybe there is a reason the NFL allows players to do this and its simply profit which makes sense to me at least.

Bro you cant call people dumb for not knowing about the baltic states I could ask you about the process of radiated heat dissipation to express it in log form and when you cant call you dumb but wouldnt because wouldnt expect you to know that....

I'll actually fuck your superior bum to appear dumb.

>In any other country now or decade in America they would be considered Traitors, what changed that these Traitors are honored by millions?

White leftist intellectuals have basically been eroding patriotism within american sub-culture for the last 60 years. What you're seeing is the results.

>eroding patriotism within american sub-culture for the last 60 years.
What would that prove? What would be the end game? I dont get it and happy I dont. I can try to wrap my head around it that somehow it fights for minority rights but making them look stupid or ignorant isnt the best way to make things look good.

he's referring to the black people protesting r-tard

>If they are not honoring the American flag what flag do they serve?

And yet the poltards who wave the Confederate flag aren't vilified. Why is that pol?

>prewar-Yugoslavia
Please mind explaining? I am a little uneducated.

kek

>And yet the poltards who wave the Confederate flag aren't vilified. Why is that pol?
that flag is lame and old too just saying, we need a new flag to rally around. Make us one user!

I think the primary difference there(and mind you, I don't own or care about the confederate flag) is that those people that generally have or care about confederate flags still pledge allegiance and generally speaking love America. It's a dual love. Southern pride and American pride. They don't literally pledge allegiance to the confederacy(or at least most probably don't), they just keep it as a symbol of southern pride or a symbol of southern culture. Not really the same thing as the whole "fuck the flag, fuck america, fuck the national anthem" thing going on.

>applause
you sir just got moved up to captain of the debate team!

But i disagree. They're protesting because they feel the America government isn't holding up it's end of the deal regarding equal rights and treatment under the law. American troops are dying unjustly from the protesters' standpoint. They're fighter for awareness and to ultimately make America better (at least from their perspective). If they really hated America, they'd try to destroy it in some sort of radical Islam fashion.

How's that boot taste? you fucking fairy.

>regarding equal rights and treatment under the law.
Do you have an example demonstrating that? I can think of some one off but no trend comes to my mind at least?

>American troops are dying unjustly
Good point, I do agree american troops are dying unjustly in wars that arent protecting america, pretty much I think everyone agrees on that. This point should be expanded upon, but sadly I dont think that is what their actions represent at least from what they themselves say but it would be a valid point otherwise.

>If they really hated America, they'd try to destroy it in some sort of radical Islam fashion.
Propaganda like this as a tool is effective in manipulating masses either into following a philosophy or idealogy or into raising division which accompishes a breakdown in the traditional social order. So in a sense they are achieving this goal?

Deport all those niggers to Liberia and boycott the NFL

what boot? what are you smoking over there that makes you think people eat boots? Are you aware thats america and we have food here :P

>Deport all those niggers to Liberia and boycott the NFL
Honest question if we asked them to leave or what country they should go to where they can live more un oppressed where would that be and why has noone asked them this so we could have a model to look at to improve their perceived wrongs here?

Balkan anons can explain this better than me. But before the wars of the 1990's, there was a lot of "unity" propaganda in Yugoslavia about how all the different groups were actually united as Yugoslavs, and how ethnic differences didn't matter.

Then, Yugoslavia fragmented into several nations along ethnic lines. And in the places where the ethnic groups were entangled (like Bosnia), the fighting was horrific and bloody and prolonged.

Appeals to "national unity" in America 2016 feel kind of like appeals to national unity in 1980's Yugoslavia or something. It's just a desperate attempt to ignore massive differences between groups.

>Do you have an example demonstrating that? I can think of some one off but no trend comes to my mind at least?

I'm this case, it's the perceived state approved police violence against citizens.

>but sadly I dont think that is what their actions represent at least from what they themselves say but it would be a valid point otherwise.

Kaepernick addressed this directly wherever people try to stay he's disrespecting the troops. From his perspective, troops are dying to empower an oppress government, thus dying unjustly.

>Propaganda like this as a tool is effective in manipulating masses either into following a philosophy or idealogy or into raising division which accompishes a breakdown in the traditional social order. So in a sense they are achieving this goal?

This is literally the purpose of protest and activism. To breakdown the traditional rules and assumptions, and replace it this something the perceived to be better. This was the ideology behind activists in the civil rights movement, feminist movements, gay rights, and basically any other activism. destroy the status quo and rebuild. It's only 'bad' if you disagree with the protesters or stand to lose something if they win.

>it's the perceived state approved police violence against citizens.
He has never mentioned whites though being oppressed by police has he? Isnt he only talking about blacks being killed by cops in his statements?

>From his perspective, troops are dying to empower an oppress government, thus dying unjustly.
That just sounds weird, since our troops die for other governments, its a good point he should research though because our country has been at war forever and were not any more free or less free it seems right?

> replace it this something the perceived to be better.
I get the civil rights movement but I dont get what this will change to make things better. That one black guy with the neck scarf talked about this very issue saying that the reason BLM isnt a movement is the lack of a platform of any unity or semblance as to what tangible things they can change. Kind of hard to agree or disagree with them when their only complaint is black people die from cops. THe numbers are so small in that example compared to the thousands of blacks dying every month from black on black crime its almost hard to even pay attention too. Why arent these athletes moving into poor black communities to make a difference instead of hiding themselves away from them, is it because these blacks are actually racist against black people and are doing this to make them look bad?

I wish someone would go out there and do a nazi salute during the anthem, then afterwards when he's asked what he meant by that, he just goes "What? I'm just expressing my freedom of expression here!" and see what happens.

>He has never mentioned whites though being oppressed by police has he? Isnt he only talking about blacks being killed by cops in his statements?
I don't know the specifics, but he seems to be talking about police harassment in general, which seems to target blacks more frequently

> our country has been at war forever and were not any more free or less free it seems right?
All the more reason to protest the flag, no?

>I get the civil rights movement but I dont get what this will change to make things better. That one black guy with the neck scarf talked about this very issue saying that the reason BLM isnt a movement is the lack of a platform of any unity or semblance as to what tangible things they can change. Kind of hard to agree or disagree with them when their only complaint is black people die from cops. THe numbers are so small in that example compared to the thousands of blacks dying every month from black on black crime its almost hard to even pay attention too. Why arent these athletes moving into poor black communities to make a difference instead of hiding themselves away from them, is it because these blacks are actually racist against black people and are doing this to make them look bad?

This is a pretty common retort but ultimately it's a red herring. The issue here is state approved violence, not violence committed by private citizens. But on that point, Kaepernick himself has agreed to donate $1 million to communities in need. His protests could inspire other athletes to do the same. I agreed that BLM lacks direction though. I think the hope is that increased awareness that protesters are keeping an eye on police will cause police to behave more humanely. Don't really know if that's a good strategy tho.

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this has already been long settled with the flag burning debates

stop giving them the attention they are seeking