What are your thoughts on Native Americans, Cred Forums? Do you feel sorry for them?

Yes like europe and muslims

Apache here.

Nobody should feel sorry for them. They have full sovereignty and do NOTHING with it except create cancerous casinos and hunt in the off season.

They would rather be slaves of the state than be free. Betrayal of our heritage

I had bo opputunity, give me land and that will be all.

Fuck em, we should have finished the job we started.

ive never met a native american but sami are extremely entitled and annoying and i wished we killed them all when we had the chance

Nope.

devolved archaic proto white man.

They made pyramids, declared We iz kangz. Aliens then crushed them, made them brown.

Ancient order of white man used 10,000 year old map to find them after the collapse of the White Kangz of Egypt.

Why would I feel sorry for illegal Siberian Immigrants?

The ones who live on the reservations don't practice any native culture either.

Unless you consider doing meth, getting drunk off mouthwash, and molesting their children to be native culture.

I used to but then they started being bloody vaginas about everything.

We should round them all up and deport them back to China.

no they are savages

>(((feudal lord)))

I wish the muslims dont say the same with europe in 200 years

No and I'm fucking sick of hearing about how the entire continent of North America needs to be given back to them. Which fucking tribe, and what progress will we make after?

I thought they were all dead but I've since seen people claiming to be Native American. If they aren't dead, they should be.

chief merkel on the river did invite them, let's be honest with ourselves.

Great dental hygiene

I fucking despise them and anyone who says we need to give the North American continent back to them deserves to be shot. They did fucking nothing.

found out the other day that my grandmother's great grandmother was an Indian. Guess i'm not white after all so now i'm voting for hillary

Many natives have tons of euro blood so it would be like the boer wars.

I wish muslims make with the whites the same that whites with them

They're better than niggers but thats not saying much

>half injun

>free college meme isn't true

>told by minorities being half native is the "whitest" shit possible so even an outsider among spics and nigs

I feel like the natives left are just a failed people, reservations are shit and sans military participation they don't do much but drink

Being red jews with casinos doesn't equal progress and the tribes are pretty fucked by nepotism

Sure.

Too bad leftists these days care more about getting revenge on white people than they do about learning from the brutality of the past.

>feeling sorry for Listerine niggers

I don't know if its a fact but based on personal experience, I really feel like homosexuality has a far higher rate on the res than the rest of the US. Homosexuality, drug use, alcoholism, gambling, etc.. Really disgusting group.

Why leftists dont subsidise us?

At least Natives are definitely human. Abos are the fucking missing link.

Native Americans could never have co-existed with Whites in North America for simple anthropological reasons. Hunter/gather nomads need tremendous amounts of territory to subsist. It was either don't come to North America (which competing nations would have done in a heartbeat), or come to North America.

The reputation they got on the frontier as savages was in fact rooted in reality. Once their lifestyle was not viable anymore, they had to turn to horse stealing and petty stealing to live. It is important to remember that 90% of all Indians in North America died because of disease, not murder. There was no way to prevent this - it was no intentional (even though there were some cases of that). It would have been impossible to stop the spread of illness given the technology and understanding of the day.

Last thought, they were not saints. Natives fought each other all the time. In virtually every battle Whites fought with Natives, other Natives from rival tribes were fighting with us. The Apache were hated the most by others tribes, the Sioux were probably second place.

The actual last thought, the Cherokee probably got screwed over the worst. They actually started adopting Western lifestyles - they planted crops and had real cities that where totally legit... and they got butt fucked by the Government - despite the Supreme Court ruling in their favor.

Official Cherokee Indian here.

Western vices absolutely dominate what we're made up of genetically. Gambling, alcohol, and any drug that isn't a hallucinogenic from a plant. They're nothing but complete and total cancerous poisons for our minds. Once we start, it's impossible to stop. It destroys our families and people die completely insane and alone.

Big oil offered them money to go through the Rez.
The retarded natives said.. No we want more money.
Big oil said.. Fuck you, we'll go around.

Imo: Oil flowing under the Missouri River is safer than transporting it via rail & road.

Germans fought with polish therefore danzig is chinese

I do. I wonder if they had the potential to become a semi advanced civilisation with some help from europeans.

Oh well, it's a dog eat dog snd they lost

I am a pureblood member of the Cherokee Nation.

I don't fucking feel sorry for shit. I seriously doubt we would have made any major technological advances in the last several hundreds years. I was born way too early, had to be born in c-section and put on life support at birth, stayed in hospital a week. I'm 6'1 and fit now but if white people never came here and developed modern medicine I'd never have survived birth, not to mention never enjoyed the benefits of cars, the internet, modern music, education, food, all that shit. Why would I want to live the life of a savage instead of playing video games, eating good food with tastes and ingredients from all over the world, and jerking off to porn and hentai all in the comfort of air conditioning. It's even easy to be in shape thanks to the spread of modern information, I can still look great just by working out an hour each day instead of busting my ass in the sun just to survive. Not to mention I get coolpoints wherever I go just for looking the way I do, and free college and government benefits too. Even without those perks I wouldn't feel sorry about it.

White people had the right culture, at the right time, in the right part of the world that created the perfect catalyst for everything good in humanity.

Let's just say I have my reservations abou them.

how did they go so long without hooch.
europe, asians, africans, south americans... it seems consistent, did they really have no alcohol? i would bet the mound builders had something

Peyote

Chinese/japanese/rest of world imported all of that without losing resources and land.

yeah i guess
it's just that fermented fruit isn't exactly rare.

They did nothing wrong. Put up a good fight. Pretty cool people (Midwest) if you can find the ones that aren't alcoholics. Constantly used and abused by Democrats who pretend to care about them even as they sue their fucking asses off at the Supreme Court level to strip them of their rights on their reservations. But are always willing to hide behind them as progressive props.

90% of them didn't die of disease and they weren't still hunter gatherers

Alcohol probably wasn't developed independently but the technique was probably traded along the silk road, like how to make paper and how to make silk

BLEACHED

Yeah, and the vast majority of the world that imported all that shit didn't give back a fraction of what they gained in terms of their own discoveries/inventions/progress

Think of all the things in this world that would not exist right now if white people hadn't colonized north america

It's probably for the best they didn't have alcohol any earlier than they did

that pic always makes me laugh

Literally nothing, i just want land, infastructure will be recompensated.

wasnt crazy horse the last great indian? and fuck your native american bullshit.

It's unfortunate what they went through, but no, I don't really care.

The Europeans did more with the land than the Native Americans ever did.

crazy horse was pretty cool but he did get shot in the face and cucked after cucking

>the wheel
>learn it
>love it

>selling Manhattan to white people for shiny beads

They kind of deserved what they got desu

yeah chinese have ancient beers, but i'd bet there were varieties of hooch all over. south america didn't trade it with china, for example, but surely yeah some of the knowledge was passed in trade

What have balkans done with their land? What have you done with your resources?

No.

I have to write on them for university, and the more research I do the more I realize how pathetic these fuckers are. The literally suck teat off the government and then say they deserve it for getting their asses kicked in all the wars. They were the original MUH REPARISHUNS on this continent and I can't believe that we all have to pretend they are "noble savages".

Chicha is disgusting and shouldn't be counted

Why do people even use this argument, White Americans created the laws and made themselves legal citizens. They gained the land by conquest... JUST LIKE EVERY OTHER NATION EVER FORMED.
>it's absolute lunacy to call anyone born and naturalized in these United States an "illegal immigrant"

Native americans are weird, Hitler was pretty fond of them because he grew up reading wild west books.
Also some tribes actually fought on the side of the confederacy even though jew history books pin it entirely on white people.
Pic related.

Indians are probably the most cucked minority in america, even more than niggers.
We just shoved them into a corner and under a carpet, called it a reservation, gave them some fire water and pretend they dont exist anymore

We natives should go to college and demand historical penance tithes from leftists in college.

I find native american chicks pretty hot, and some of their culture is interesting. But as for the people themselves, no. The current generation is not oppressed in the slightest, unless they try to be oppressed by huffing glue.

Wash away white guilt with a small penance fee of 10$/€.

If my relationship doesn't work out I'll use the pity card on some dumb white college girls

Could be neato finally getting some free shit, and free shit at the expense of leftists is even sweeter .. the booty will just be a bonus

in 700 A.D.

You have to understand who made contact with the Indians first. The men that made up America's frontiersman were exactly the pious or moderate type.
99% of the time, they were professional businessmen who made their living off the land and caused very little trouble. But that once or twice a year when they met up and traded with businesses, governments, indians, or whoever, they had a habit of cutting loose, drinking in excess, and being generally lawless for a few days before sauntering off back to their trapping posts.

Thats the culture that stuck to the first outcroppings of civilization. Places like Deadwood, Dodge City, and the like were probably safer than New York at the time, but they played up to that reputation to invite these types of men in for trade.

That culture still lingers in trailer parks and reservations throughout the midwest, its just that white kids growing up in the trailer parks don't usually have 150 cousins pulling them back into a shitty lifestyle.

were not*

I feel just as sorry as the Turks feel for the Greeks.
Amazing how you SJW either don't understand or simply block out what happened to the people of Constantinople when it fell.

No, we brought them civilization and all they've done in return is bring crime and beg for gibs, just like a certain other minority...

You should. My professor tried to get after me for calling Natives "victims". My response was that, if the damage is as horrible as she claims it is, then Natives must be victims because it's left a scar that can never go away, just like how we call women who are raped "rape victims" and children who have their parents die in front of them in the Middle East "victims of war".

The reason you could get away with it is because they want to view Natives as simultaneously successful and also stereotyped and -- dare I say it -- VICTIMS of genocide. They're stuck in a paradox they can't come out of, so you could easily coax them into giving you free shit, including sex.

i do feel sorry for them on broader terms, but I don't have any personal contact. they seem to be very whiny in person, which is understandable, but they can also fuck off if that was the case since that attitude adds zero value to whites and is a burden.

No, and they routinely lie about MUH 90% KILLED OFF BY MUH SMALL POX!!!

>modern non politically charged numbers put the population at 2.6m @1500AD
>accounting for population density, nomadic tribes, and inhabitable terrain
>generous number might be 3m
>90% are killed off
>300k remain
>1853 census data puts natives at 453k

yeah okay fuck off

The people who went to the US were Europe's criminals, mate. Our prisons were emptied out and the rest were sailors. There was even a period where anyone caught homeless was sent over.

Real answer from someone who has spent a lot of time on a lot of different reservations in southwest USA:

Depends on the tribe. Some are borderline comparable to abbos in Australia and other tribes have good looking people, less interbreeding problems, not as dependent on fed handouts for survival overall. Etc.

I am married to a native and my kids are obviously both half native.

sorta,but remember the usual fate of the losing side in wars.
they got off easy.

Here are my thoughts on abos

I was once in a hospital for testical surgery, and I was put in a room where I was seperated from a 2 year old disabled kid by a small dividing sheet.

This woman constantly beat her kid. Right next to me. I'd call in the nurses, I'd tell them, and they'd say they can't do anything because she's legally allowed to do it, they can only stop her if they see her

Whenever they'd come in, in the most fake and horrifying way that haunts my memories, she'd say "OHHH MY SWEET BABY BOY, I LOVE HIM SO MUCH, GET BETTER MY SWEET BABY BOY I LOVE HIM"

then they'd leave and she'd go back to beating him and shaking him to such a degree it would shake the bed I was sitting in

They did nothing

I was forced to spend a night with a child being abused next to me

and they did nothing because "she is legally allowed"

Abos can get fucked

I don't blame you if you don't believe this story because it's so ridiculous, I don't really care because it's burned into my memories. I was like 10.

The ones who came to the Americas were businessmen, tradesmen, sailors, and adventurers. Australia got the criminals--

Oh wait, you're a potato nigger, of course YOU think only criminals came to the US since you orangutans only have criminals in your stock.

They were pretty badass in the past.
I love their names too, like fucking Ten bears and White mans horse fears him.

* Inner red Jew intensifies *

White women and idiotic liberal types really will bring this entire shit down .. might as well get a blowjob before it's over

>germans pay jewish people for crimes even give them free land and complete milutary support
>the biggest historical victims recieve nothing

Not sorry for them, but it does leave me with a sort of...almost nostalgic feeling.

The natives were definitely not niggers. They had some pretty interesting civilzations and fascinating history. And any civilzation is like a grand story - it's always sad to see it end.

I kind of get the same feeling when I think about ancient egypt or greece. So much history, such interesting cultures, religions - all gone, and the world will never see their like again.

It's a somber reminder. In the end, history swallows us all.

the vast majority of decline in their population is due to race mixing

actually they didnt , surprisingly the oil companys really are being dicks for once

We should claim that all the European countries with colonies here need to pay reparations and then tax them on it

Your continent was populated with the most unfortunate bastards Europe had to offer. Most went over as slaves and refugees.

ding ding ding ding

Alt. Hypothesis puts it a .22% decline over 353 years. Easily explainable by race mixing, non replacement reproduction (due to hunt gath lifestyle), and sure, some small pox.

You can't feel bad for the past. That's retarded. It's the future you have to put your beliefs into.

we had no involvement

I really hope that pic is a shop. Is there no respect in man anymore?

Not yet.

Most were killed by disease HOWEVER that was before they even ever saw a European. The disease spread faster than the travel of whites themselves to obliterate the native populations of North America.

I mean some people estimate the population of North and South America had been in the hundreds of millions

I feel bad for them, but not sorry
I did nothing wrong

It is known that Native American are akin no natives of Siberia. And those are definetely not a good civilized people. Not that they noisy or agressive like muslims, they are quiet in general, but can be extremely violent and sadistic, and have completely no brakes - one can stab a man on a little whim as easy as any of you can scratch an ass. And they also cannot drink at al, alcohol turns them into a fucking animals. Not to mention that regions of Russia populated by them are a worst shitholes. You murricans made a right decision removing those savages from your territory.

Germabs today did nothing yet are blamed for wars and crimes against jews.

False. Native Americans' only achievements were being so technologically behind they couldn't slaughter each other, and the reason they have their dick sucked so much is because some tribes had matriarchal societies that, in an SJW's rose-tinted glasses, means they were so far above the white man because they respected women and were in tune with nature and were communists.

The only peoples in the New World that were technologically advanced were those in Central and South America, especially the Aztecs.

And your country is populated by people too retarded to figure out proper agriculture and could only rely on one crop in your inhospitable landscape, and when shit hit the fan your ancestors became cannibals and beggars and fucked up Great Britain until you could come fuck up ours with your shit-eating Catholicism.

I'm not American so I've never met one but I definitely have some good feelings towards them. I feel compassion for everybody in History who "lost the game", kind of.

The Native American issue was a tough one. The Pope called for good treatment towards them, but once he did, most of the harm to the Mesoamericans had already been done and they were already beaten bloody.

Then, of course, too many colonizers were Protestant, and thus gave no shits about what the Pope said. Thus, Manifest Destiny comes in play.

South America wasn't really densely populated compared the Mesoamerica but the natives in the South got treated better than they could've expected.

The ideal situation would've been that all colonists would've been extremely kind and chose to convert them with no bloodshed, but we're humans (and so were they, they were obviously not morally above us) so it wouldn't have happened anyway.

They would have most likely been slowly decimated by illnesses, and the white pop would slowly have overnumbered theirs, but it would have been a better fate than being expelled out of their ancestral lands and killed if they disagreed.

>hundreds of millions
That shit is such bullshit based on no science. Most of them didn't even have farming. You don't support hundreds of millions on Poe paste stocks.

Your attitude makes me wonder if Syrian refugees really will think that they were doctors and astronauts and sheit.

Ahahaha

Do any of you mothefuckers actually know the story of the fall of constaninople, and moeover the kidnapping and enslavement of Europeans that went on into the ~1820s when the American navy finally marched on Tripoli and put an end to it?

Do you think Turks feel any guilt over that, do you imagine it's in Turk history books with a bunch of bullshit written by Jews on why they should feel guilty?

If you'd like to talk black slaves, the arabs took over 100 million negroes, with an estimated 80%-90% dying enroute. Upon arrival, the negro males were castrated immediately for use as harem guards.

Somehow, the jew professors never get around to teaching this, despite the fact that it's extraordinarily well-documented. Why is that you think?

Here is the late Dr. Tony Martin of Wellesley College on his fight with the Jewish Lobby as he tried to reveal the jewish role in the Atlantic Slave Trade:

youtube.com/watch?v=Uu0vQrZbhQo

>and what progress will we make after?
>we

i wish the spain cleanse the scum from latin america

>native American
>holding a Chinese fan
she looks Filipino desu

Google image search says she's Filipino

what are you trying to pull faggot?

If you think being technologically advanced is a prerequisite to having the capacity to slaughter each other, you're kind of dumb. Industrial warfare typically kills a smaller portion of the population than tribal conflicts.

If I remember right those numbers literally come from taking the population density of one of the most densely populated parts of the Northeast and extrapolating it across the entire country.

Ignoring the fact that, you know, the Great Plains tribes were stone age nomads and the Southwest is largely a barren desert.

Your problem is that your owners want a post racial society because they believe that will be what makes them the most money.

To achieve that they have to breed away the whites with blacks and Mexicans. You wont exist for much longer. Most children born in the US are non white now. Your mixing will accelerate.

Hundreds of millions is definitely too much, but Tenochtitlan most likely had over 200k people before the Europeans arrived, which is more than any European city in that Era.

And yes, they could farm, very well in fact since they had to support all that population.

Since you're American you hear more about north-american natives, which were indeed less sedentary than mesoamericans (and than pretty Europeans, of course) so they obviously cared little about farming.

What's up with the hairline on that one?

Jesus christ. Tha annoying? We give them autonomy to very strict extent and they don't bother us. Many finns don't even have an opinion on Sami people. Just some reindeer herding tribes.

businessmen, tradesmen, sailor and adventurers?
that's what they tell you in school ?

Muslims raided the entire Mediterranean christian coast for centuries before the fall of Constantinople. I reckon many more white slaves were made every few years than what they made during the capture of Constantinople.

Moreover Constantinople was kind of in the decline when it was taken and wasn't that populated compared to what it once was.

If you think my statement wasn't facetious, you're kind of dumb.

As someone who has studied this for over 10 years and has a masters in Med and Renn studies where I concentrated in Jewish Ritual MUrder, I cannot overemphasize the importance of this.

In short, as soon as a black refuses to do as the Jews tell them, they are firs tto scream "nigger!" and to try to have even a negro professor banged up for rape, despite the alleged "victim" denying the account put out by the female jewess rabbi.

His crime? He took a reading from the book "The Secret Relationship Between Blacks and Jews" (which was compiled by The Nation of Islam, but the source was 100% legit).

If you are interested in history and how Jews keep all of academia "in line," this is a must-see. Why do I believe him? What woyld be his motive to lie

youtube.com/watch?v=Uu0vQrZbhQo

They wuz kangz

that is half true - developing countries are sending resources heading towards europe/north america all the time, many mines are actually run by foreign enterprises. They didn't completely lost control over them though and they still control the lands for the most part (money talks).

> I was just pretending to be retarded!

Samis do not rape your daughters. You have other things to worry about.

>Moreover Constantinople was kind of in the decline when it was taken and wasn't that populated compared to what it once was.
Another fucking muslim apologist. "Well, the turks only took 750,000 women and children into slavery rather than 1.25 million, so that makes it OK."

The balls are really incredible. And do you know WHY Byzantium was in decline Due to constant raids by Corrisar scum. And this slave capture went on from sicily to Iceland up until the mid-19th century.

And now, instead of ramparts and sinking the ships of these scum, Europe is PICKING UP(!!) the rapists less than a mile off the Libyan coast.
It defies all logic.

I'm not a muslim apologist for fuck sake. Of course they took a fuckton of people, and of course muslims are to blame for the decline (even though other things are to blame, like the civil wars)

As a so called """NATIVE"""" American Indian.

I don't want your pity or sorrow.

Just stop destroying our land.

Watch this.

youtube.com/watch?v=5OKUmjQZTzA

do I feel bad for them? sure we cocnquered them took their land and put them on shitty reservation land where all there is to do is drink. It's pretty fucking depressing.

Cuck taking money from jew slaves is nice.

Russel Means would have supported Trump tought

What are you implying?

>muh turks
Look up the 4th crusade you fuck.

As someone who will soon lose his native homeland i have full sympathy for them

This, whites are going to be natives soon stand together for interests of all nations or fall.

To even suggest a single strain of imperialism in this day is just a fantasy.

>tfw Choctaw and Jewish

Am I the fabled super-jew?

Also, true, we don't get shit for handouts...only one person in my 100+ relatives gets memebucks from .gov

ethnopluralism is the only moral choice

I don't mind them at all. They're decent people and they're in a pretty bad situation

Form native historical war crime reparation when?

It's also the best choice. It's pretty clear now that if the West had left the third world alone and not gone all imperialist on them and given them our technology, the world would be better off

all the decent ones assimilated into the greater white population. all thats left are pond scum on their reservations.

That's silly. Normal people don't cuck for their conquerors

>youtube.com/watch?v=5OKUmjQZTzA

#based

I guess open borders were a mistake.

Wish Jackson finished the jerb.

Nice. The Indians should be our friends these days (though they have the right to keep to themselves)

What kind of Indian are you?

I'm really anti-American but "muh injuns" is a pathetic argument, Americans did try to make good on their mistakes, and consider that Indians weren't some peaceful dope-smokers they make them out to be, plenty of tribes were warlike and brutal, Mongol-tier brutal, read accounts you faggots.
Plus those reservations aren't exactly tiny pieces of land, see a map.

Actually only some of the Indians were bloody. Like in Canada most of the Indians were reasonable and open to peaceful negotiations, except for the Iroquois who had to be pacified by force, though this pacification also benefited other Indians who had trouble with them as well.

it happened en mass in rome and muslim spain.

I know, I'm generalizing, but "noble savage" meme is a meme.

those who left feel like they are seizing opportunity

"In order to rectify the warcrimes and genocides that were inflicted in the native american people we ask for reparations for the profit and land that came from the suffering and systimatic holocaust of the native american people." if you feel the need to correct these historical injustices we ask for you to sign a pledge for no more genocides of 15$

#nomoregenocide

>went to a reserve
>literally a bunch of white trash
>somehow they are still "NATIVE" cuz muh Cherokee last name and shit
>alcoholic
>demand gib and shit
Wow not fucking white people's fault that Native people got BLEACHED to death. Considered their horrible culture, getting BLEACHED is definitely an upgrade

>t. 1/4 Native cuz dad is a half breed
>member of the Native People Association on campus
>wrote an essay in my college application on how having a Native background brings diversity and shit to education
>received scholarship

I don't believe in any of MUH INJUN PRIDE AND SHIT but have to pretend to be one to keep muh gibs. Some people on my campus are definitely pissed off cuz I look too white tho lol.

Not as much as you would think. Even Constantinople was majority Christian like 100 years ago

Yeah, but then they'll assimilate into the white population and their descendants will shit on their Indian ancestors. That's how it works. Conveniently, an example appears Not really. They were just in a less advanced stage of civilisation, and other than not dealing with alcohol as well they managed to pick up civilisation very quickly

>Anglo/Germanic American detected
Suck my Celtic dick cuck

it's a selfish move - they are disowning their own tribe more or less, but it's mostly because they are sociopaths or greedy

Exactly, and the worst thing is they're often not conscious of the consequences this will have for their people, and they think they're getting a really good deal

Oklahoma here. I've never had issues with them. Their natural reserves are pretty nice to visit, and the casinos that dot them are nice to stop by for cheap drinks, fuel, etc.

I could complain about the overpriced turnpike system that cuts through some of their boundaries, but desu, they're much better maintained than state roads.

the weak should fear the strong

Yours seem more chill than most. I'd be more thankful that you don't have Abos.

A beaten people. Just leave them alone.

this

Fuck, i have 0 prileges im a rent serf.

I feel bad for them, but it was inevitable. Their civilization was too far behind. If it wasn't the west it would have been the near east or the far east. They weren't going to make it.

>Do you feel sorry for them?
No. Technically, natives did better genetically by coming into contact with Europids. Doing so multiplied their survival rate, so that today there are far more people alive with native genes than ever before in history. They might not be highly regarded, have social status or wealth, but genetically, it was a gift that they encountered whites.

Of course, most of them are too stupid to realize this.

Natural selection is a bitch.

They are my mongoloid brothers but no i dont feel sorry for them. They were in stone age and deserved to be conquered.

I like native europeans. Its the immigrant trash americans that bug me.

Fuck I lived in North Dakota for nearly 3 years. It was shitty and sad seeing the native population.

The vast majority of them are complete degerates,

They have adopted the worst parts of Black and Mexican culture.

Seriously, they are beyond redemption.

All that insane amounts of drinking and sloth.
I hope to never be around them again.

Yes I feel bad for them.
We, the french actually did pretty well with the indians and understood each other.
But the anglos have no principles and just genocided them when they began to threaten their profits.