I think it is evident that the problem itself is not with leftism, rather liberalism. The social Democrats in France under Hollande are not leftists for instance, since when do leftists want to reduce worker rights? The west is infested with liberal nonsense and that is why it sucks. A country can not be truly safe unless it implements some form of anti-capitalist and anti-religious action, or are we going to let Schlomo Goldenstien and some crazy Pope tell us what to do?
For comparison, the Communist Party of Russia is far more nationalist than the faggots at the Dutch PVV, or the Austrian FPO. >total security of the borders >investment in education and science >modernisation of the industry >retaking key national economic interests >total secularism >support for larger families >protection of the rights of workers
>since when do leftists want to reduce worker rights?
It's been a long time
getting from there to here
Levi Campbell
>protection of the right of workers
topkek
Elijah Watson
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Ethan Gomez
By that logic, wouldn't again the main blame be on right wingers, like the Democrats and CDU?
Brandon James
> since when does the left want to reduce worker's rights? since always. there were NO labour unions in bolshevik russia, nazi germany, fascist italy, nor are there any in cuba, NoKo, china, etc etc etc.
marx explains it all in Das Kapital (the book on marxism that internet marxists never read)
when The Authoritarian Socialist State is your master you dont need unions, workers rights, or legal recourse against your employer. The State will handle all that difficult thinking for you
MARXISM IS POISON and leftism is just Marxism in drag.
conversely, Liberalism (the classic liberalism of the enlightenment) is all about individual rights to work, express discontent with the govt or your boss, own property, get rich or, fail miserably.
only power hungry self-serving faggots who think they will become apparatchiks and complete blithering retards still believe in marxism.
which one are you?
Isaiah Howard
what if i told you that youre a moron
"neo-liberal capitalists" ha ha ha ha ha ha
capitalism is a fundamental aspect of classical liberalism (the shit conservatives are trying to conserve) while "neo-liberalism" is the same tired old whore of marxism in a new party dress
Camden Thomas
>muh enlightenment era thought >Voltaire was the greatest progressive of all time >lol the strengths of the republic far outweighs and central personal authority figure
Xavier Wright
Marxism tho is all about direct democracy and total equality, it is nearly anarchistic, post Lenin countries were not such, as evident by strong hierarchies and undemocratic actions.
The power must be conserved in a small elite, but the elite must be picked by merit, that is, the most able-bodied of all, and not selected by wealth or incestous nepotism.
Jaxon Martinez
>muh vanguard >muh state capitalism isn't communism >muh denial of natural social hierarchies in favor of dialectical materialism
Christian Brown
Go back to uni and take a few economics classes. That might help you pull your head out of your butthole.
Adam Garcia
>natural hierarchies "My daddy, who is also my 3rd and 5th cousin, is the heir of a medival warlord, that totally gives me a right to rule"
Socialist Yugoslavia was a rich country, post Socialist republics of Yugoslavia are piss poor... I wonder why.
Jaxon Johnson
>inheritance >Social hierarchies
pick one
>inb4 lets ignore the pygmy race of the congo,the Australiods, IQ studies, nature > nurture, and meritocracy.
Charles Ramirez
> marxism is all about direct democracy... really. cuz thats not what it says in Das Kapital (or any other marxist writings)
first you throw a violent revolution then you kill all the opposition then you kill all the revolutionaries who were on your side then you set up an authoritarian state then you eliminate all dissent then you forcibly "re-educate" the populace until they all agree with you (or at least pretend to so they dont get shot by your secret police) then some magical transformation occurs in which the new feudal masters of The Authoritarian Socialist State simply give up their power and wealth to "the people"...
funny how the magical transformation has NEVER happened innit?
direct democracy only matters if you can vote for a candidate that is not part of the current regime
a vote for kim jong un is meaningless since you are forced to vote and he is the only one on the ballot.
but that's Marxian Democracy in a nutshell.
Sebastian Garcia
I am saying what Marxism is about, but I already said I am against Marxism and that I prefere the Authoritarian state, as Democracy is a pest
Christian Johnson
> claims to be opposed to Marxism > declares preference for The Authoritarian State and Socialism
are you clinically retarded or something?
Gavin Harris
One of the other perks of far left leaning policies...
Angel Bailey
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Josiah James
First of all, while Das Kapital conceives of the revolution, Marx himself didn't openly condone a violent revolution to overthrow the oligarchs, just that is was inevitable consequence of time should the "workers voices not be heard".
Also, classical liberalism is a meme.
Andrew Hall
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Ayden Gonzalez
Socialism in One Country and Marxism are two separate things.
Brandon Johnson
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Ian Sanchez
>leftism IS >Liberals
Anthony Ramirez
>innit
wtf are doing in America, Sargon?
Ryan Long
> canadian shitpost... who woulda thunk it?
none of that shit is mentioned in the communist manifesto.
commies are pure shit, but lying about commies simply makes you lazy and stupid.
you could have laid a much more damning indictment on communism with a little reading of what they ACTUALLY say, but you instead wanted to create a strawman to attack all forms of governance, as if your anarcho-fantasy would somehow seem plausible
so many dicks on the earth, and youre sucking all of them.
Joshua Phillips
>he thinks the communist manifesto is the only source for communist beliefs
Are you literally Sargon of Akkad? Unbelievable.
Lincoln Gomez
Neo-liberalism refers to laissez faire capitalist economics though. People don't know what it refers to and to add to the confusion, some are calling current democrats "neo-liberals" unrelated to the economic term.
John Price
>implying that matter to man with such an obvious taste for his own ego
Jace Murphy
>be tankie >cry about the fall of the USSR every night into my copy of das kapital which i'm too fucking stupid to actually understand >complain about capitialism every day on my computer >get fat from eating too much food >drive a car not made out of cotton
You fucking commies lost. Move on. You're like the stupid southerners who still fly the rebel flag and jerk off to pictures of Robert E Lee.
Isaac Gray
> marx never condoned violent revolution... Both for the production on a mass scale of this communist consciousness, and ... the alteration of men on a mass scale is, necessary, ... a revolution; this revolution is necessary, therefore, not only because the ruling class cannot be overthrown in any other way, but also because the class overthrowing it can only in a revolution succeed in ridding itself of all the muck of ages and become fitted to found society anew.
Marx, German Ideology (1845)
The Communists disdain to conceal their views and aims. They openly declare that their ends can be attained only by the forcible overthrow of all existing social conditions. Let the ruling classes tremble at a communist revolution. The proletarians have nothing to lose but their chains. They have a world to win. Working Men of All Countries, Unite!
Marx & Engels, Communist Manifesto (1848)
A revolution is certainly the most authoritarian thing there is; it is the act whereby one part of the population imposes its will upon the other part by means of rifles, bayonets and cannon — authoritarian means, if such there be at all; and if the victorious party does not want to have fought in vain, it must maintain this rule by means of the terror which its arms inspire in the reactionists. Would the Paris Commune have lasted a single day if it had not made use of this authority of the armed people against the bourgeois? Should we not, on the contrary, reproach it for not having used it freely enough?
Engels, On Authority, (1872)
you really are stupid, ignorant and pathetic.
marxi9sm IS violence, repression, murder rape and theft, there is nothing redeeming in it, not even the lies they spin about a possible future worker's paradise, since for anyone with ambition, that paradise is torment and stagnation
James Cook
> implying i am unable to read the clearly printed heading at the top of the poster's image which gives it's source as The Communist Manifesto
are you really a shit sucking ass pirate in a gimp suit with a reamed out size 15 asshole?
i suspect you are.
Ian Brown
I don't like communism but it's bad that the soviet union fell. The fall of the soviets paved the way for american hegemony and globalization
Levi Rivera
> lamenting american hegemony without america propping you up, you wouldnt have your somali bull to pleasure your wife while you cup his balls and slurp up the overflow.
quit your bitching and get to sucking mustafa isnt gonna prep himself.
Brayden Smith
>the communism meme
~7,665,000 die of preventable starvation yearly, adjusting for worlds population and total number of people living in poverty, deaths to preventable starvation reach into the hundreds of millions.
And you think Communism is the biggest killer?
Jordan Davis
>not one of these quotes say violent revolution
kek
>Completely misunderstanding what I meant by "condone"
double kek
>inb4 I've never argued with an actual diehard communist before
You're arguing against marx's conception of dialectical materialism, one of the most fluid and snake like rationales in existence which has convinced entire nations to engulf themselves in flames, so I can understand where the personal bias against this idealogy stems, yet if you remember in Das Kapital, Marx also theorizes that communism would ensue after gradual change from capitalism, to state capitalism, socialism, to communism rather than violent revolution if it weren't for outside influences. Surely you've bumped into this argument?
Marx stating that self defense is necessary once the "imperialists" try and arrest control of their capitalistic slaves is not the same as openly condoning for violence.
Levi Anderson
There's a difference in perspectives between necessary reactions against oppression and slaughter of innocent civilians. The problem with Marxism is that anyone who doesn't side with the revolution is therefore not guilty, and a tool of the elite. The basis of marx ignoring social hierarchies and the natural tendencies of those with authoritative personalities also allows this system to justifiably kill otherwise innocent people whom fall upon the wrong sword.
So, in a sense, no. Karl Marx does not advocate for violent revolution, he is merely predicting one from his usual ivory tower authorship. If you're going to do more than sling ad homs and ALL CAPS at communists, at least learn how to think like one.
Chase Butler
>is therefore not guilty *is therefore no innocent
its late
Luis Price
I am also a Titoist. Keep up the good work. My family fled Bosnian after the breakup of Yugoslavia, and my father to this day never stops talking about how great a man Tito was. I'm inclined to agree.
Elijah Ortiz
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Carter Gomez
The communist party of the russian federation is an ultra nationalist party.
They just use communist symbols.
Jordan Nguyen
what is this country end game?
Isaac Bailey
Communism is shit but you're right that liberal capitalism and American influence has an even more degenerative influence.
Francis Yokley pointed this out, that America was a bigger threat to European culture then the USSR.
"Classical liberalism" is the same as "liberalism". Both are predicated on the idea only the individual in society matters.
Ryder Thompson
no they're not all the Asians vote for them
Alexander Ross
Because leftists sided with the liberal elite instead of the working class in most countries. Their goals or ideals are irrelevant to how they actually behave.
Xavier Richardson
>The communist party of the russian federation is an ultra nationalist party. There are no "ultra nationalist" parties in Russia, because last time "ultra nationalism" was a thing it killed every 10th Russian in existence. Core CPRF electorate are old people.
During these elections they pretty much lost second place to LDPR for the first time, might be because their voter base is dying out.
Younger people can be pro-USSR too, but they vote either for Putin or for one of the newer parties like Rodina or something.
Eli Brown
Contemparary Liberalism IS left wing you fucking Mongoloid.
Kayden Perry
>The west is infested with liberal nonsense and that is why it sucks. A country can not be truly safe unless it implements some form of anti-capitalist and anti-religious action, or are we going to let Schlomo Goldenstien and some crazy Pope tell us what to do? > >For comparison, the Communist Party of Russia is far more nationalist than the faggots >total security of the borders >investment in education and science >modernisation of the industry >retaking key national economic interests >total secularism >support for larger families >protection of the rights of workers
>pretty much lost second place to LDPR Nice meme. >KPRF 13,42% >Kommunisti Rossii 2,30% >LDPR 13,25%
Jackson Roberts
>The EU, administration is full of "ex-communists" and communists >Communism shouldn't be blamed
Much of what drives the shittiest aspect of centre-keft politics is marixst entrysim and the tolerance of communists. We wouldn't have the invasion crisis, coorporations would not be able to lobby for market protection through legislation and regulations etc.
Commies are a never ending cancer on society.
Ethan Hughes
>Bosnian trying to say communism is gud Fucking hilarious chap
Benjamin Hernandez
>7,665,000 die of preventable starvation yearly, adjusting for worlds population and total number of people living in poverty, deaths to preventable starvation reach into the hundreds of millions. In Africa, and now socialist Venezuela
