/Anarchy/ Anarchy General

anarcha-feminism? are you kidding me? What next? anarcho-sapiosexuals? get the fuck out of here with this. You can't be anarcho-anythingyoudesire. Where's my anarcho-robocop flag? Anarcho-futanari? Anarcho-gluten free?

>no anarcho-individualism
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Because it's written somewhere in a book doesn't make it a thing
Almost none of those listed in the photos are "things"

What are the last three it boggles the mind

Really? Then why are you so depressed and sexless? Probably because you spend so much time on this board.

9.5/10

I'm surprised there's no anarcho feudalism.

it's okay u guise i'm an anarcho-maoist

lol u tk him 2da gulag|?

Isnt India Anprim?

Daily reminder that anarcho-capitalism and anarcho-primitivism are the only non-self contradcting forms of anarchism.

india isn't anarcho-primitivism, it's anarcho-diarrhea shit river.

If capitalism is about trade, and you need protection to have a fair trade, then anarcho-capitalism is proto-statism, because a corporation will always inevitably create a monopoly on protection.They'll make deals with homeowners, asking for land in exchange for protection premiums. By seizing control of housing as an asset, you've essentially created a form of taxation.

"Anarcho-_________ism" is a shitty madlib that hipsters and faggots use to conceal the fact that they are marxists

every one of the various flavours of anarcho-___ism is olde tyme marxism in drag.

"anarchism" has always been marxism's thooper theekwet code name ever since sacco and vanzetti (two dago wop commies) killed a guy for a shoe factory payroll

the "anarchist" who shot Teddy Roosevelt was another immigrant commie, this time from bavaria

"anarchism" is just communism swaddled in faggotry

>anarchism is just communism
please kys

there is no such thing as "anarcho-capitalism"

only commies claims this shit, as a strawman deployed against classical liberalism and libertarianism

"anarchy" destroys everything it touches, especially capitalism

why would a craftsman make extra goods for sale if he will simply be robbed by anarcho-brigandists on his way to the market?

why would a merchant buy goods for transp[ort to another market if he knows some noble defenders of individual sovereignty will simply "smash capitalism" by shooting him in the face and taking his goods?

anarchism is an edgy buzzword for faggots who dont want to admit they are just plain old marxists trying to legitimize their robberies.

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not an argument.

you have no argument because what i said is simply true.

marxists have tried so many re-brandings of their failed ideology, they have more self-ascribed nicknames than the average street nigger

that's why nobody takes you seriously.

well... that and 100+ years of abject failure.

other than that, marxism is totally a legitimate ideology

except for the utter nonsense they call an economic theory

and the authoritarianism inherent in the system

and the fact that marxism can not abide dissent

and the way the average marxist can never explain their ideology adequately despite having 100's of volumes available on the subject

and the way marxists support their claims by ad hominem attack and shutting down discourse

and the way marxists invariably use violence against any who dare object to their schemes

and of course, the marxists themselves, who are repugnant disgusting examples of why humanity should insist on mandatory sterilization for genetic defectives

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>Anarcho-Feminism
>Queer-Anarchism
Women and faggots truly infiltrate everything that they think looks respectable and make it an abomination. This is like the whole Atheism plus thing all over again.

it's called anarchism faggot. Kys.

>be me
>be anarchist
>think communism is bs
>mfw when you compare it to anarchism, using arguments absolutely irrilevant to anarchy itself.

Anarchism means lack of government.
Feminism means petitioning the goverment to give women benefits.
Anarcho-feminism means...

Anarcho national socialism what now bros?

FOR THE RENEGADE G- I MEAN ANARCHO PACIFISM

Stop labeling my beliefs

Non of these are real, stop shitposting

> totally an anarchist.
> totally NOT a marxist
> begins to explain special snowflake version of "anarchism"
> indistinguishable from classic bolshevism

>the only non-shit system isn't included
Yep it's a troll thread move along

modern anarchism (and by modern i mean no Bakunin-Proudhon-Kropotkin) is largely anti-marxist. Of course many ignorant faggots who've never opened a book think we're "all together", but anarchists piss on Marxist bullshit (or they should).

i see no 'social snowflake version of anarchism' explained anywhere.

if you're
you're just shouting a belief, explaining nothing.

7/10
pretty much this, anarchic systems will cease to exist when the population density reaches a point where it is possible to have asymmetric power struggles. humans will then self organize into hierarchical organizations, which will have their own rules and codes of conduct. these organizations will then participate in a darwinian power struggles, which will weed out the weakest among them.

and most likely shit like isis will win out the power struggle.

newfag

society is like a dice game.
cc.com/video-clips/jwy71h/chappelle-s-show-the-world-series-of-dice---uncensored
real anarchy will always rob the game

all you self-declared anarchists are just dumb-ass ashy larry.

>why would a craftsman make extra goods for sale if he will simply be robbed by anarcho-brigandists on his way to the market?
He would make extra goods if he was protected, hence the "Anarcho capitalism is just proto-statism".

>anarchism is an edgy buzzword for faggots who dont want to admit they are just plain old marxists trying to legitimize their robberies.

I'm not a Marxist. I'm just an anarchist out of necessity. I don't actually believe in anarchy as an end goal. One needs disorder to create order. The only way to break one order is to cause disorder.

You do know that Marx's philosophy is a fairly reasonable development of Hegel's, right? Only five people on this board have actually read any philosophical texts and accompanying analysis, and have extremely bizarre ideas about what nationalism, fascism, marxism, liberalism, conservatism, etc. even are. Generally what you call anarchism is hedonism, what you call "cultural marxism" is consumerist handholdy neoliberalism served with a smile and vaguely revolutionary rhetoric.

> why would a craftsman make extra goods for sale if he will simply be robbed by anarcho-brigandists on his way to the market?

Implying this can't happen / doesn't exist as a market threat in the current system we live in.

> why would a merchant buy goods for transp[ort to another market if he knows some noble defenders of individual sovereignty will simply "smash capitalism" by shooting him in the face and taking his goods?

Implying this can't happen / doesn't exist as a market threat in the current system we live in.

Except, who the fuck is just going to trade over their property for protection instead of just going with a different means of security in which you retain proprietorship of your land?

im a reactionary anarchist
is there any name for that

> craftsman makes extra goods so an imaginary special snowflake version of anarchism can protect his goods

canadian logic everybody...

lets give the hoser a round of applause

"anarcho-capitalism" is not "proto-statism" because neither of those things exist outside your fevered imagination.

anarchy destroys trust (you know, because of the robberies and shit...) and thus destroys markets and capital.

anarchy is incompatible with every form of society, which is why faggots like you must hyphenate it endlessly.

> I'm not a Marxist. I'm just an anarchist out of necessity. I don't actually believe in anarchy as an end goal. One needs disorder to create order. The only way to break one order is to cause disorder.

and this is a perfect example of "anarchism" using many words without saying anything

the noam chompsky/deepak chopra style of argument, make a statement so vague that idiots will assume it must be profound and they will nod along so nobody thinks they are stupid.

it is literally The Emperor's New Clothes as discourse

>Implying this can't happen / doesn't exist as a market threat in the current system we live in.

a functioning state does well to mitigate these risks for with no prior requirements from the trader, this more than anything facilitates trade.

>Implying this can't happen / doesn't exist as a market threat in the current system we live in.

this is such a minute possibility with the modern functioning governments that it is not even worth talking about. the only place such a thing is likely to happen is where there is no functioning state or the state lacks power, like off the coast of Somalia.

WORST GIRL.

Don't forget Anarcho-Monarchism

Anarchism is dumb. Marxism-Leninism or bust.

Gandhi says hi.

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wtf is dat

seriously bro, these internet anarchists are retarded.

"The State" they so despise protects them from the realities of lawlessness to such a degree they cant even imagine that evil exists, even when they jerk off watching daesh beheading videos

and every one of these turds lives in a country that is so free and non-repressive that they can spout their gibberish openly without fear of going to gulag.

anarcho-____________ists would be the downfall of western society if they werent all basement dwelling bronies who couldnt survive without their mommies to prepare their chicken tendies and wash their laundry.

>> craftsman makes extra goods so an imaginary special snowflake version of anarchism can protect his goods

That's not what I fucking said, you fucking retard. My point is that anarcho capitalism is just proto-statism, because a protection firm that turns into a corporation is just essentially a state.

>anarchy destroys trust
No it fucking doesn't. Capitalism isn't trust; capitalism is economic coercion protected by the state; or in anarcho capitalism's case, a privatized militia.

>the noam chompsky/deepak chopra style of argument, make a statement so vague that idiots will assume it must be profound and they will nod along so nobody thinks they are stupid.

It's not vague. It's simple. Most anarchists become anarchists because they don't want the state or higher powers to control them. Anarcho capitalism is a distortion of anarchism, because it always evolves into proto-statism. Wanting anarchy for the sake of tearing down a crooked state and replacing it with something else isn't "vague"; it's common fucking sense.

Sounds just like a more hardcore variation of absolutism desu.

>Except, who the fuck is just going to trade over their property for protection instead of just going with a different means of security in which you retain proprietorship of your land?
If a man will mortgage his house to pay his debts, then he's stupid enough to mortgage his house to be protected. If the bank owns the means of protection, then the bank owns his house, protect it, and basically tax him.

> dats not wut i sed!!
so, youre saying that there is some historical example of "capitalist protection firms" that became "corporations" and eventually "states"?
because that is pure horse shit.
societies dont work that way.
"the labour theory of value" and "historical materialism" are nonsense created by marx, who knew NOTHING of history, economics or even doing an honest days work.
marx was a dilettante, who spent his life sponging off his rich (and capitalist) father in law's tobacco fortune.

> anarchy does not destroy trust
yes it does, in every way possible.
without a set of rules agreed upon by all parties there can be no markets, no capital and no society.

> capitalism isnt trust
yes it is.
you TRUST that the currency given you for your labour (if you ever had a job that is...) is real and legitimate currency that can be exchanged for goods and services
you TRUST that the 2 pounds of apples you bought actually weighs 2 pounds
you TRUST that the merchant's shop isnt a trap to get you off the street so some niggers can rob you
you TRUST that the local gendarmes arent dirty and dont take bribes from the local street gangs and crime bosses
you TRUST that the barkeep isnt going to drug you and go through your pockets for your last schilling or sell you as a slave to a passing turk

> anarcho-capitalism
again with the thing that has never existed and never will.

> most anarchists are...
whiney selfish crybabies who want the right to take anything they desire, and throw a tantrum when society as a whole says "youre a faggot"

> tear down the state and replacing it with something else
thats a REVOLUTIONARY not an anarchist
anarchy is tearing down society and replacing it with NOTHING

real revolutionaries make a point of saying what they want to replace the existing society, faggots like you wont say what your end-game is because it's the same tired old marxism of the 19th century,

yeah pretty much this; anarchists and libertarians are just fucking retards who do not know how good they have it, and are unable to understand causal links to why they have it so good.

the only people I would probably have respect for are social darwinists(I never talked to one personally), for they at least try to understand the implications they are advocating for. the reason I am not a social darwinist. is because darwinism has an inherent flaw in that it produces specialized systems that are inherently more volatile, and while nature can absorb this volatility due to it being more static, the economy is everchanging in a way that would not bode well for these systems,

looks like the anarchists and crypto-marxists are off to start another thread just like this one, so they can pretend none of what was said was real.

>"the labour theory of value" and "historical materialism" are nonsense created by marx
fortunately I didn't read any of his books.. I don't know what Marx has to do with this subject..

Look at history.. Every feudalist country wasn't classically a "state". They always started out with a protective agency leasing lots of land to the people for their loyalty and servitude; this evolved into various classes. It didn't become a state until trade and private property became protected. When the merchants were protected, both lords and merchants gained monopoly over institutions. This is how the Jewish merchant class went to the top in just a short time.

>without a set of rules agreed upon by all parties there can be no markets, no capital and no society.
What you're talking about is laws protected by a state. What you're essentially saying is that markets need a state. If you need protective agency for trade, then trade ceases to be based on trust (such as a fief), but becomes coercive.

>you TRUST that the currency given you for your labour (if you ever had a job that is...) is real and legitimate currency that can be exchanged for goods and services
That's not trust.. At all. You know what the value of currency is, because it's a coercive force that wouldn't have any power if we had to "trust in it". It gets its force because it's protected by the state.
>you TRUST that the barkeep isnt going to drug you
Again, no I don't. I don't have to trust him, because I know people are going to be afraid of the system enough to not want to fuck themselves up like that.

>most anarchists are...whiney selfish crybabies
Probably true. But I'm not whiney or selfish.

>anarchy is tearing down society and replacing it with NOTHING
Not strictly true.

When I was younger I considered Anarchism. Syndicalism in particular which in my own opinion is the only way Anarchism could work.

I still like some of the ideas and like reading about its history but I wouldnt consider myself an anarchist anymore.

Bakunin was my favorite and I particularly enjo what he says about Marx and the Jews

Anarcho-Transhumanism

WE WUZ THE BORG AN SHEEEEEIT

>anarcho-pacifizm
>autism

Wut? OP, are you mad?

anarcho-monarchist here

Agree.
Bur anarcho-transhumanic pacifism is much better.

Anarcho-capitalism is the only one that could actually work here, Queer-anarchism could work coupled with an-cap but not alone. All the others are utter failures from conception

>anarcho-monarchist here
>straight-faggot

huh

>Look at history.. Every feudalist country wasn't classically a "state". They always started out with a protective agency leasing lots of land to the people for their loyalty and servitude; this evolved into various classes. It didn't become a state until trade and private property became protected. When the merchants were protected, both lords and merchants gained monopoly over institutions.

implying that there will be magical mechanisms to prevent this in the future

>Again, no I don't. I don't have to trust him, because I know people are going to be afraid of the system enough to not want to fuck themselves up like that.

this is the most retarded shit I have read in a while.

it seems you never shopped at a market and had to wonder shit like: "I wonder what animals are in this ground meat"

let me assure you: the experience is not fun.

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>malal
>pacifism
top kek

anarchism and monarchism can coexist.

it may sound controversial but philosophically anarchism and monarchism are similiar

>anarchism and monarchism can coexist.

after a series of mental gymnastics and feels.

Kys commie piece of shit

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Anarchy will automatically end in some form of government again.

what the fuck is wrong with you

do words mean anything anymore?

You first stormie

>it seems you never shopped at a market and had to wonder shit like: "I wonder what animals are in this ground meat"
Why would I have to worry about what's in the meat? I don't have to trust the guy to buy it.

>implying that there will be magical mechanisms to prevent this in the future
What caused it is the abolition of feudalism, caused by a mob of PEOPLE. They were revolutionaries.

I actually know how this can work. But it's less monarchist and more feudalist. Arguably the same thing, but it doesn't work on the principle of "Apples for capital", but rather "Apples for loyalty". Inherently different from a capitalist system in that there's no protected means of exchange, or no protected merchant class, because such a system implies law. Rather, a feudalist system is based on the fear of public shame.

Analects: [2:3] The Master said: “If you govern the people legalistically and control them by punishment, they will avoid crime, but have no personal sense of shame. If you govern them by means of virtue and control them with propriety, they will gain their own sense of shame, and thus correct themselves.”

My municipal government does a fine job of that on their own.

Anarchy isnt a lack of government, its a lack of a centralized state. These people think the niggers would let them live in such a society.

Theoretically there would be committees that establish rules or whatever.

>Anarcho-futanari
That's what I am

Corporations don't exist without governments. They are legal entities, not natural ones.

Capitalism itself wouldn't exist without government.

How can people have free trade if the rights and free trade aren't protected by some entity? In this case, an anarcho capitalist society would eventually be subject to a security firm that gains monopoly over the people on the fact that they have the means to protect. This would result in several city states; and if a state is bought off with money (like many states that are), then one state rules multiple states. This is essentially government. People are essentially paying protection fees on their properties; but it's not their properties actually, because the people have mortgaged their rights to private property at the expense of being protected.

not following the owners rules on a private road is against the NAP

You know "the State" doesn't actually do anything right? "The State" doesn't actually exist anywhere outside our own minds. It's people enforcing laws written by other people.

KEK

>no anarcho-monarchism
kys

You know what you're referring to as "free trade" is actually the opposite of free trade right?

Dude have you never heard of Craigslist? People engage in unregulated free trade all the time within their own communities. If you need to trade higher value goods and need extra security you can use an escrow.

You're making this sounds way more complicated than it actually is. If people were as naturally psychopathic and savage as you make them out to be them we would never have formed states to begin with.

Anarchism won't work on a global scale cause there's too many dindus, but people came to the Amercas before there were any governments and they thrived. Somehow they managed to refrain from this strange inherent desire to rape loot and murder everything that you claim is only kept in check by an abstract entity called "the state".

Maybe if you just think about it not as anarchism but as voluntarism you'd have an easier time of it.

We'd obviously have to get rid of niggers first.

Anarcho Capitalism everyday.

>queer anarchism

just why, what the fuck would it consist of?

Add anarcho-islamism

>Why would I have to worry about what's in the meat? I don't have to trust the guy to buy it.

>being this cuddled

I do not know, the thought of eating dog kinda rubs me the wrong way let along eating people.

but you would be a fucking retard not to establish relationships with merchants that work at a market, for a myraid of reasons, one being: in order to save money.

while I never buy ground meat(for aforementioned reasons), I do buy meat products from one merchant, and while I do not know her name, I trust her to give me a fair deal on the goods I need. while skimming a few coins here and there.

I mention this to so you would understand what it would be like to live in your society.

trust is an obvious necessity.

I fear an idiot like you would probably get stabbed and mugged the first day you get out into your anarchist society

>What caused it is the abolition of feudalism, caused by a mob of PEOPLE. They were revolutionaries.

we are living in the era of tanks and laser guided bombs, I am sorry but zerg rushing peasants with firearms will not overthrow a modern feudal overlord(which would be some ceo of some corporation),

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> If people were as naturally psychopathic and savage as you make them out to be them we would never have formed states to begin with.
That's the opposite of what I'm saying.
I'm not saying that people need law to behave. What I'm saying is that people need law to have free markets. If both parties aren't protected by an external force, then the system relies on the individuals to bring weapons. That's how it worked in the southern states where there was an absence of law. Had there been no law completely, it'd be up to the ruling powers to enforce law. Free trade was often crooked, because people would kill eachother or get ripped off.
And yes, that's what happens on craigslist; I bought something, and got ripped off; many such cases.

>Anarchism won't work on a global scale cause there's too many dindus
What I'm not asking for is a hierarchy-less world. I just don't want a state. A state is a self-serving entity. A fiefdom is "Bottom up" while a state is top down. governance that relies on loyalty rather than bigger guns, is inherently a better system.

UGH NO TRANS ANARCHISM SHITLORD
I CANT EVEN

Anarcho-transhumanism is just plain hard leftist, extremely politically correct, commie nonsense.

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who's pagan traditionalist?

>I do not know, the thought of eating dog kinda rubs me the wrong way let along eating people.
Assuming there's a law to prevent this, then I wouldn't have to worry. There's a law to prevent child labor, which means I won't have a guilty conscience thinking about all the coal miners who are 6 years old.

>but you would be a fucking retard not to establish relationships with merchants that work at a market
I have to establish relationships. I have to have insurance on my house because I took out a loan. I had to answer several questions about my health, and I had to have several inspections done on my house done by various businesses. And when that wasn't enough, I had to pay a lawyer 1400 dollars to write a deed. My house is connected to my credit which is connected to my credit cards which is connected to various expenditures, and I have to pay interest, and I have to make sure I pay monthly or I get everything taken away. There's so many relationships I have to establish just buying 1 fucking house, and this bureaucracy wouldn't exist if people didn't make money off of other people's fucking money. That's what capital is; it's debt. it's not an equal exchange, because one doesn't pay apples for apples; they're paying secret interest on the apples, and all of it adds up. That's why capitalism is inherently coercive. Any law made to protect a market or a person's private property is simply protecting their right to subject us to debt. A security firm created by the free market will inevitably become the state BECAUSE of capital's coercive power.

>I fear an idiot like you would probably get stabbed and mugged the first day you get out into your anarchist society
Then you completely misunderstood the kind of anarchy im talking about.

teenagers mostly

I highly doubt teenagers will follow a stoic based ideology with the principles of blood, soil and honor. I am talking about real paganism not wiccan/new age tier bullshit.

Why don't you call them ISIS?

>implying he doesn't own the road

Where do you guys hold your LARPing sessions? Will your mom let us sleepover?

>Assuming there's a law to prevent this

who will be the purveyor of such a law or more importantly who will be the enforcer?

>Then you completely misunderstood the kind of anarchy im talking about

apparently so, be kind and enlighten me.