Why are millennials not getting married?

Why are millennials not getting married?

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Why have boomers done everything in their power to deter us?

Why would they?

Because it's 2016

>be 29
>married 6 months ago

They are though. Just in smaller numbers than previous generations. We will have record numbers of cat ladies and weird old guys though.

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We are. I'm married (to a Mexican girl).

>26
>Been married for 4 years to latina q-t-pie

Life is good.

What's the point?

Marriage is a legal contract. Doesn't sound like love, sounds like business.

>Why are millennials not getting married?
because women will divorce, get the kids and all your money.

This is the only way to go now. (((They))) Fucked up white women with brainwashing and now all they do is fuck chad and take half of his money.

Not all of them, but I'm not taking chances.

Single moms and sluts are being glorified, the cost of living is higher, whites don't get gibs for having kids out of wedlock

Feminism.

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OP THAT'S NOT STEVE O!

POST. STEVE O. YOU. FUCKING. DUMMY!

Op wtf is the matter with you? That's not Steve O

This is literally no benefit to getting married. Even for women, unless you planned on using divorce as leverage which isn't going to work out anyway.

Bring back a society where being married actually serves the interests of the parties involved other than "muh romance" and it will fix itself.

is that soe

women are too "independent" to be tied down and men don't want to get fucked over by divorce

Traditional reproduction is on its way out.

Why burden yourself.

I married my waifu

Arent taught how to handle/be in a relationship with a woman.

GO back to playing vidya

>those dogs
Luckiest man alive.

Who wants to marry a whore?

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I've dated wife for 8 months and slept with a fiance once.. Does that count?

22 here I choose to walk this life alone really hoping for a AI qt gf soon tho

While it is true marriage isn't considered important anymore we have made other gains. Its been statistically proven by blacked.com that we also do not divorce as much due to sexual agreements and liberations. This allows both partners to get what they want. The woman vets her black stud and the husband gets to witness the glory.

I've been married for 2.5 years now and things are going great.

Yes

Whites do get gibs. The issue is men who aren't poor have absolutely no reason to marry with such a high risk thanks to biased laws and divorce rates, and poor people don't get married because you don't get as many gibs if you get married.

The system promotes wedlock and forever alone

Marriage is a business contract, and these days marriage is just bad business. Self-aware whites are obsessive about looking into the future, and projecting just one step forward into the future looks fucking bleak in regards to raising a family.

like most of this site

I cant deal with people

Implying I'd get legally married. I'd go as far as to have a wedding with my gf, but I would never sign a marriage contract.

Because most women are sluts.

Why would I put a ring on any girl who has taken multiple dicks? I literally don't mean as much to that woman which means strife/divorce is more likely.

No hymen no diamond roasties

Because housing prices are insane, income is low, women grow up thinking they deserve everything they want, unemployment is rampant, jews control media and brainwash society into nothing but weak individuals alienated by themselves living in a perpetual state or non purpose but to serve their own pleasure and seek immediate gratification, the west is falling down and we'll probably be all muslims by 2050 fucking goats or being beheaded cause Allah forbids we want to drink beer or not stone people to death.

Yeah those are some reasons to consider.

I'm born in the 80's and most of my friends don't want to get married. Why you ask? Why risking marry a person that might dump you and are legally entitled to half of ones property. She can basically steal your shit. A man could also do this but we all know courts rules on favor of womans.

Another reason millenials don't get married is because their parents was likely married and divorced. Growing up in a divorce sucks because most parents use the kids to smear the other parent.

Most people marry today mostly for the tax cuts and have little with love to do.

Because millennials are worthless.

>whites don't get gibs for having kids out of wedlock

Yes they do, you're just too dumb and proud to live on welfare.

>too dumb and proud to live on welfare.
You're shitting on them for not being leeches?

Multiple reasons, for one if is convenient for corporations to keep people in a adolescent state where consumerism is the main focus- i.e. women focused on fashion as much as when they were in their teens or men focused on x hobby.

When people are child-free they tend to be less conservative- a person who is unmarried normally wouldn't care about say minorities receiving welfare (if they are middle class themselves), but when they have a child they become acutely aware of where their taxes go. They tend to reduce or end degenerative behavior- drugs, alcohol, and any consumerism associated with that.

Money spent becomes a major issue- couples with children tend to lose focus on their consumerist tendencies completely instead putting all their money into their child.

Finally- they tend to become more tribalist. They become acutely aware of poorer areas, avoiding black dominated neighborhoods and seeking neighborhoods where their "own people", usually of the same race, can be found.

This goes contra against what the jews and other power hungry minorities want- a fully assimilated, liberal society which they can move freely within and accumulate power without being noticed.

Gen X here - it's a crap shoot.

Getting divorced myself - she's taking half the shit even though she's spent the last several years sitting on her ass doing social media.

If it wasn't for a couple of great kids it would have been a total waste. As it stands, I'd say I broke even or maybe even came out a bit ahead.

Zero reason to do it again, that's for sure.

marriage numbers =/= extramarital couples

people would rather invest those 10k instead of throwing a large party for people they don't care about and unmarried cohabiting couples are no longer frowned upon

Secondly, as many anons stated previously, feminism is reduced. If a woman truly loves her child and wants to support him while remaining married she will undoubtedly reduce her feminist thinking.

A woman who has had a child is less likely to support abortion, now of course there is plenty of garbage daytime television from Oprah to Dr. Phil and so on to brainwash a woman back into a feminist retard state.

If I could give any new married couple any advice, it would be to not have cable or satellite television.

Aquafresh sums it up perfectly
>pic unrelated

They're 25 and they have been brainwashed to not have kids until they're 40

Because it's expensive, time consuming and stressful (providing for at least 3, giving up your dreams and etc.)

I'd rather keep fapping to my chinese cartoons and blow my paychecks in PC parts and vidya games.

I've traveled the world and I came safely say western women are fucked. About 30% of them are marriage material these days, and if you factor in all those how're already taken the prospects for men are grim.

Unless you can handle lots of disappointment go international.

Why would I ?

Marriage fails at cost-risk and risk-benefit analysis. I can take care of my biological needs better and cheaper by fucking escorts.

Boomers not only fucked the economy, in which they expect me to work as wageslave for their own buisness, but also women, turning them to rabid feminists that want to use me as an ATM.

Why the fuck should i get married?

Shit happens all the time, and i'm not promising half of my shit to someone who might fuck up one day.

I've been dating the same chick for 4 years, she keeps talking about marriage, and as soon as i ask why she can never give me a real answer.

Marriage is to relationships what facebook is to modern relationships.

i dont need to prove to the state i love someone, its retarded.

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Because 70% of marriages end in divorce and the woman takes the man to the cleaners. What's the fucking point?

The millennial generation is the first in a long time to have lower standards of living than their parents. That coupled with the fact that there is no longer any social cohesion pushing people towards it explains why millenials aren't getting married.

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To anyone married out there.
Is it worth it?

Only when the cost of multiracial societies become apparent do people start to realize.

>Mexican girl
>latina q-t-pie

how fiery and crazy are they?

how did you pull it off? I'd love to marry my gf but we have no money (because university)

This. Marriage puts a loaded gun in the wife's hand to be used at any time for virtually any reason: "the love is gone," "emotional distance," etc. The man frequently winds up an indentured servant, the woman gets the kid, and virtually every negative consequence falls on the man.

By nature I'm a bit of a loner and I am very slow to trust as it is. So I probably won't get married, unless I move to a different country, or our laws and social norms change.

>but the white race is dying and it's your fault

The processes that lead to our present situation began before any of us were born. Don't blame our generation for not wanting to play a rigged game.

I don't have any hard data to support an answer in either direction, but my guess would be the following:

>Decrease of value placed on intact families across the US (traditional values)
% single motherhood rate in black families correlates w/ increase in welfare benefits as well as crime. This trend is true across all races.
>Millennials not getting off the parent's money tit until mid-20s (insurance, college, etc.)
>Not starting a career until around mid-20s (see above)
>People looking down on skilled trade jobs for college degrees
>Decrease of discipline for children from parents, lack of direction
>Apathy
>3rd wave "feminism"
>"Rape culture"
>50/50 chance of failure in marriage
>>That leads to child support, alimony, losing half of your belongings (all of which are fucking terrifying)
>"Live life in the moment" mentality

I think it could be argued that the decrease of the religious (any faith) population across the US contributes to an ongoing decline of values and what is seen as right and wrong, regardless. For example, having sex outside of marriage isn't necessarily bad, but it leads to increased rates of children born out of wedlock, higher rates of dissatisfaction with married life the more partners you had prior to marriage, and a lack of firm direction for youth (which leads to increased crime).

Maybe I'm wrong.

What is the upper age limit for a "millennial", anyway? I was born in the early 80s, and both suspect and hope I don't qualify. Most people I went to school with have several children now, and have been married for ages.

>they stop spending money on themselves but instead their child
Consumerism doesnt care what you spend it on as long as your spend. Spending on your kids can be consumerist too. Although youre probably right that parents will save more

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Isn't uni free in Germany?

Wow Steve-O looks really good now.

>increased rates of children born out of wedlock

Traditionally, this was one of the MAIN reasons people got married in the past. And it was why I did, too!

but marriage is financially beneficial no?
Sure you have to spend money on the wedding but then you get a bunch of tax benefits as well as a second income that isn't spend on second apartments and stuff

because it's a shit contract

yes but I still don't have the time to work a full time job

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If it's available why not get it. I mean I don't even live in France and I'm getting gibs from there.

Yes. But in a non western country. My 1 yr anmiversary coming up

You say this like I have choice in the matter

how did you relationship develop down the line

still feelin' the old Spanish fire I hope?

Usually the parents help out with paying in the US.

At least, it's been like that for all weddings I've been to.

jews.

because whats the fucking point? why would i even bother?

As neckbeardy as it sounds if she is not willing to stay knowing I will never marry her she is not worthy of marrying. If that one factor alone is worth leaving over, it's only a matter of time because marriage is a lot harder then that.

And as degenerate as it sounds If I find one that it seems like staying with long term and having children is something we desire, when the time is right I will give her a child but not my last name and stay as long as viably possible.

At least in that situation the only financial burden to me if things were to not work out would be taking care of my child and not taking car of an ex-wife.

BTW not a Jew just very Jew like in nature.

>getting married

Just put your money in a pile and set it on fire, it's much faster and more convinent.

they'd chip in but they wouldn't pay for all of it I guess
I have about 20k saved, don't know if that would even be remotely enough.

Oh well, guess I'll have to fornicate for a few more years

user you don't need a wife to have kids, just make one with some third world slav you vet ahead of time and bring the kid back to the states, I did

>be married to redpilled qt with a great big butt
>told her infront of her parents if she ever cheated on me I would murder her
>her dad says he would help me hide the body

The wedding dress and the ring are the most expensive parts. Everything else can be made with less than 1k.

No fuego here, main Freund. I'm English. :D We've had a few more kids anyway. What you have to realise about life after kids is that new rules apply, though. We live for them, now, not ourselves or each other. The main test will be when they grow up, I suppose, and you'll have to ask somebody older about that.

It's best to do that during the divorce
At least you'd get a laugh

They are though :^)

What is it like man?

What area's have the best women?

When you are spending your money on formula, doctor's visits, diapers, and insurance you stop buying the newest phones or wasting time watching the newest television shows.

Imma break it down for you...

For millenials that want to get married its cost, scheduling and intense effort. Thousands of dollars in wedding costs that millenials would rather put towards a new car or living expenses. On top of that the rediculous expectations of wedding goers. The food, the venue, the honeymoon. Its all money just burned up in their eyes. Alot of millenials want to get married its just alot of work for little pay off.


In regards to the millenials that dont want to get married...

Its just not worth it to them. It literally changes nothing, theyve been living together for years. Why change anything? Also it lends flexibility, they can both walk away without the need of an attorney and divorse court. Marriage is more of a hassel at this point in their lives. Why fix whats not broke?

I got married to a stronk interpendent woman, but she is getting fat so I will have to cheat on her.

>Bill Nye the High School Science guy poster
>probably atheist

>Anime poster


Yeah you faggots shouldn't be allowed to breed.

>wasting thousands of dollars to throw up a marriage party

Marriage doesn't last in 20th century. You don't need papers to be with someone.
Who the fuck want's to go all that paperwork to make sure SHE doesn't get anything when you get divorce..,yes, WHEN, not IF.

Can't afford to get married, can't afford housing for family, won't risk having life ruined if wife decides she's tired of relationship. Meanwhile if I'm not married, I have surplus cash, the ability to locate wherever I need to for work and can spend more time on work and side stuff.

There's also another crucial requirement to getting married; finding a woman who you actually want to marry and spend the rest of your life with. Not a matter of appearences but personality and connection.

na, most welfare programs have sassy negresses or SJW cat ladies working as benefits administrators, they will find any technicality possible to prevent or decrease the program's utilization by white people

>Everything else can be made with less than 1k.
what? really? well I guess Cred Forums was made to make ill informed posts.

I've heard this many times actually, but I can't imagine it tbqh. If a whole adolescence spent on porn and imageboards couldn't wash the romanticism out of me, nothing could I guess

A basic ring, church wedding and a modest reception don't cost THAT much. People go stupid on such things, but most guests wouldn't even notice if there was more economy. In Spain there is an absolutely idiotic tradition of byuing stupid bits of crap for each and every guest. Like little novelty notebooks, pens, crappy little mementoes. Eliminate shit like this, and you save loads. Like somebody said, the dress is the worst thing, but there are lots of Chinese tailors online these days offering things dirt cheap.

It's not the papers that are important. It's the vow to God you'll share your life with another of the opposite sex.

>1k in food, location, cake, entertainment, drinks

kek. You poor faggot. I'd be pissed if I went to your wedding.

>Thousands of dollars in wedding costs

The problem there is the women are inundated with images of these tens of thousands of dollar weddings, hundreds of dollars wedding rings, thousands of dollars honemoons in magazines and television. There is this fake social pressure that women have to have "acceptable" expensive dream weddings or that women are obligated to these weddings, once again it is a mixture of jewish feminism and consumerism.

Weddings used to be simple affairs but now there is a predatory industry revolving around them.

We need a reduction in 2 areas- consumerism and feminism. Until either or happens then marriages will continue to decline.

to be honest, I don't know where most other parents get the ENERGY from to cheat on their spouse. Fathering is the biggest job ever, if you do it properly.

I'm college student
I have barely enough $ to feed myself
And maybe 1% of single women my age are wife material

This is like going up to a guy who bought a scratch off ticket and asking why he didn't win the $10k jackpot

Gee I wonder why...

FUCK AN EIGHTTH I NEED OZZZZ

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I've been to tons of weddings with stupid novelties, and always enjoyed the simpler ones where you just get to talk with old friends and relatives. Best part is usually when the noisy DJ fucks off home and you make your own music then with the harder drinkers who've stayed up.

I don't know about all of them. Mine is a contrarian, great for debates but honestly senpai she is pretty calm and loving.

Traditional latino families have strong familial bonds, divorce is considered betrayal for example.

>food
Make it yourself. My wifes mother was a great cook and made the wedding cake.
>location
A good church doesn't cost money.
>entertainment
people visit each other. You don't need anything spectacular.
>Drinks
Alcohol is for degenerates.

I didn't even have a DJ. My wife and I had Karoke. I sang this song: youtube.com/watch?v=HPMSvBmGQ_4

The Chinese girl cheered and yelled "Asia for the Asians!" kek. I don't think she understood.

Because boomer faggots had to introduce cultural marxist cancer into our societies.

Makes it harder for men to trust women, which ultimately leads to marriage being even harder to achieve, for everyone.

That dress is hideous. Ivory wedding dresses always look like they got laundered in piss.

From not raising their children properly. Just give them a tv and a pc or console, and don't talk with them all day. Then, let school and kindergarden "pick them up". No wonder we have so many borderline autistic behaving children nowadays, because that is pretty much what happens to a good deal of children.

Bad choices that left me single.

Now I have an anxiety disorder that prevents me from talking to women I am attracted to.

When I do somehow get a date I always fuck it up.

Getting used to the concept of being forever alone.

My father in law was a DJ, many years ago, so we just let him bring in his collection. Karaoke is fun too. "Homemade" is always best. From the heart.

>If I could give any new married couple any advice, it would be to not have cable or satellite television.

Extremely underrated advice. Daytime television is a cancer on society.

>an invisible conspiracy is cuckolding my genitals!

these threads are the Alt Right in a nutshell

Those of us who actually have a sense of shame can often struggle to recognise that many around us have no such thing, yes.

because gay marriage is still illegal.

Millennials BTFO.

What's in it for me?

They don't want the government and lawyers involved in their breakups.

My nephew is on the hook for $60,000 for his wedding. I found this out from my sister who thought this was a good idea.

His bride is a spoiled cunt that demands only brand name products and got mad once when I offered her some bottled water that was Safeway (local supermarket) brand.

She literally said "why would you insult me with this?"

I smiled at her and said "when you are thirsty here is some nice cool water. It tastes better then Evian and is better filtered. I chose this for a reason."

I was already told I was not going to be invited because she only had room for 800 guests. But I am still expected to give them something because they are family.

I look at my nephew and think he doesn't know how to get out of this mess (more likely he is cucked to death).

Until the woman divorces you and starts sucking on your income like a lampery with the court sanctioned robbery that is alimony.

The women believe that they are owed and capable of getting the millionaire playboys with the body of gods. And are stubborn in learning that they arent.

The men are buying into that narrative and fucking off, taking advantage of it or, like myself, learning the hard way and having a hell of a time settling any kind of woman.

I blame women believing the hype, men for believing the hype and myself for trying to win at a rigged game. By law and societal standards it is turning into a matriarchy and as a blue collar it is more difficult than the past to convince a woman to stick with you than go off and try and tie down the more successful. Why settle for a comfortable 60k life when the state will that to you and you have a chance at locking down someone significantly higher quality of life?

>muh boomers
Kinda, but they started the fire. Their spawn and outsiders kept the fire alive and perpetuated the blaze.

They are. How else do you think we of Gen X get our ass on the side? By sleeping with the Millenials' wives, of course.

In mexico if you can prove you lived with your partner for 5 years or so, both have according to the law the same rights and obligations of married couples. That os you stillnhave to pay alimony to your SO.

Its honestly ridiculous how much of a negative modifier an anxiety disorder gives you as a male

Its like you go down 3 points on the 10 scale

Im pretty sure I can prove mathematically that when a girl sees you struggle with anxiety and self confidence, its roughly the equivalent of a girl telling you she's had 30+ one night stands and has herpes

>I was already told I was not going to be invited because she only had room for 800 guests. But I am still expected to give them something because they are family.
Get him a consultation with the best divorce lawyer you can find

best gift then would be a manly talk. maybe bring him along with some redpilled pals?

It was hilarious when he lit that girl's tits on fire.

I already told him he was making a huge mistake and he just looked at me and had a sad smile and walked away. I think he knows but doesn't know how to get out or doesn't have the stones.

Is that Steve-O's gf

You misspelled "all television" friendo.

Im keeping my anxiety problems to myself.

But what you said explains why I'm single. Having no confidence blows.

This is his first love. He never had a girlfriend before and he is whipped by her. He can't go anywhere without her and it makes me sick.

I don't know what makes people like that. it is truly nauseating to see them together.

I realized something though. I think he is literally marrying someone just like his mom. (My sister is a ball busting CU Next Tuesday)

Any peasant can throw seeds hoping they will grow, but it takes someone with talent to produce something of quality to grow to harvest.

>800 guests
Jesus christ.

>26
>Been married for 4 years

Things are great, we live in our own house with our two cats. Don't want any children. DINK life is where it is at.

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Because most are insufferable narcissists like myself

and I assume his father is a limp dick? it sucks m8

I have a friend who's 22 and has a 7yo daughter. The bitch got pregnant because both of his parents are in the military so he was a golden ticket.

Parents pay child support (thankfully they moved halfways country) so he can study and sustain his daughter but the motherfucker hasn't finished his thesis for the first carreer he studied and now is in his second one.

If there's one thing I learned over the years is that everyone needs a shitty partner once in life to know what to look out for. If after the first shitty person they're still the same he or she will be an eternal cuck.

It feels lonely being surrounded by bluepilled people all day long

You'll regret that in 20 years.

I'M TRYING TO GET MARRIED. STOP RUBBING YOUR MARRIAGES IN MY FACE. STOP SHILLING THESE THREADS!!!

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

Well that my be true, but marriages that stick together are the best situation to raise a kid in. Kids to married parents are happier and mroe sauccessful and healthy, and the husband ad wife in successful marriages enjoy better sex lives, or are at least more content with their sex lives.

Also - invest in the end of your life. No one wants to be there for you to wipe your ass in grandpa diapers unless you have a family.

>inb4 id just kill myself

That is the most adolescent bachelor party I've ever seen.

>tfw both brothers and a bunch of cousins all have gfs and are getting married

>family gathering this past July
>only person under 30 without a gf

>guests
>Jesus christ

I personally reacted "Jesus FUCK!" when I read it. Man, who even KNOWS 800 people they actually LIKE? We had under FIFTY guests at ours. And USD 60,000...... I could literally have my family live off that for several years. Disgusting levels of consumption. What a culture...

I'm the other poster linked. I might have a different ID, but that is because I'm currently at work and not home on lunch anymore.

I agree. I had done the same exact thing after I was told I got someone pregnant. The baby turned out to not be mine (thankfully because she's a nut job), but I took a huge financial hit. I still don't know if it was the right thing to do (marrying her), but oh well. Lesson learned. That would be what I pass on to my kids when I tell them to not have sex unless you're married because shit like that can happen.

>>Been married for 4 years
>Don't want any children.
You baffle me. It's not something you want or don't want, it's just something you do as a functioning human being. Man...

To be fair, up until a few hundred years ago that's all that marriage was: business.

Marrying for love was considered foolish and bad practice.

Its the women. They get it in their head (programmed) that they need to have a fairy tale wedding. Its bonkers. Thats a down payment on a house.

>getting married
>on my wage

Not gonna let myself get justed. If she loves me then she doesn't need a ring to prove it.

Not everyone wants children. My wife and I both do not like kids.

That's a modern simplification or legend. Such considerations were obviously only pertinent to those who had wealth and were ambitious. The mass of other people just married their teenage sweethearts shortly after they knocked them up and had been threatened by the girl's father, uncles and brothers.

>getting assraped in court willingly
why

>My wife and I both do not like kids.
Weirdos. In any case, these would be YOUR kids, not random other people's brats. You can train em up to be what you want, and they represent a physical consummation of your marriage that nothing else can.

Lol, enjoy your barren cat-piss stinking silent home.

200 years ago, sure.

I'm talking like 500+

Its not that I dont want to get married and have kids, its that Im in no current position to do so and the market makes it much harder to get there than it was for my parents.

And for the record, short-hair Soe >>>>>> long-hair Soe

*low-IQ human being.

For what purpose?

Marriage served to transfer property and unite social elites, then later as a religious justification

I live with my "wife", but we aren't married, except by common law. The ceremony and rituals are a huge waste of money and time. We like living with each other and have similar goals in life

Both of our families are basically gone, so other than a few nosy friends, no one really gives a shit what we call our relationship

> wipe your ass

I have a little more dignity than that. Il pull a Hemingway before that happens.

>$60,000
>800 guests (wait, what?)

800 guests is fucking crazy. I only heard about shit like that for insanely rich Indian people.

However, that is fucking cheap if you price it per head. That's 75 bucks per person if that 60k number includes the venue, food, cake, flowers, dj, ceremony, etc.

I got married last year and mine was just under 50k when everything was all said and done from soup to nuts with a total day-of head count of 190.

My fiance recently broke up with me. We had a long and healthy relationship with very few issues. Women are just fickle as all hell like that, and terrified of divorce, even though it's like a superpower for them. Society is pretty garbage desu. I used to be completely fine with being alone. She took that away from me. Now I've gotta get more alpha and find someone better, really not looking forward to it though, thought I won the lottery of life, oh well I guess.

Because white girls don't look like this

I was thinking 5,000 to 200 years ago, really.

Heh, your high IQ will bring you great joys in old age, I'm sure. How can a measure of intelligence be cited by somebody with so little basic foresight? Surely it's far wiser to acknowledge our biological nature and work WITH it, than pretend to be Mr fucking Spock or something?

Yes, I know they would be OUR kids. Doesn't mean we want to have them any more. Do you even realize how selfish "You can train em up to be what you want" sounds? Kids aren't fucking trophies for you to indoctrinate and live your dreams through because you had to drop them all when you popped out spawn.

Fuck all that, my wife and I will live our own dreams without having to vicariously project ourselves onto another human being. Our home is hardly silent, we're both musicians and gamers. Life is fantastic.

i wish you the best of luck truly, user. I thought I had this plan underway myself, fucking bitches man.

good goy, why build equity for your family when it can all be (((music))) and (((games)))

>musicians and gamers.
Sorry, Kid. Thought I was talking to an actual adult.

And that hippy shit about your kids being left free to "forge their own destiny", lollllllll...... Just as well you stick to cats, perhaps, though even the most childish tend to grow up sooner or later.

So? You buy meme things like milk powder and special kindergarden

what genre of music is dis ?

I actually know a ton of millennials getting married or are already. But I also know that more than half those marriages aren't going to last. The ones that aren't married like me just know better.

Can't really screw up the plan when I've been snipped and she's got her tubes tied.

Like I give a shit about jews and conspiracies.

Oh I'm sorry, I didn't realize playing in our local symphony orchestra wasn't 'adult' enough for you. Fuck off.

The tax incentives with near equal wages are crap, there are not strong social incentives or other legal incentives.

Same shit here.

Also, she is an absolute cunt. Either don't give them shit since you got snubbed even with a ridiculous head count like that, or send them a box of condoms with a note saying that you hope she doesn't procreate.

I don't want kids but fuck becoming more liberal. I will still know where my money is going.

wat up kiddo?

Because I don't feel like being tied down by a bitch and I hate children.

A slow day at work, that's what.

For women, it's so they can get a wedding day where they get to be treated like royalty.

its /b tier story time!
>got lyme disease.
fin.

Are you doing anything to change it?

My life is kind of swirling the drain right now.

BluePilled?

No thank you

divorce court

No reason to under current circumstances.

Same answer for every other "Why Millenials" thread you'll ever make.

My gf said she wants to marry because she will have the opportunity to dress up real nice and feel like a princess. I can understand that.
Also nice celebration and fiscal benefits.
Will have a marriage settlement though

same

>Will have a marriage settlement though
Doesn't mean shit in Germany
50/50 anyway

>I've been snipped and she's got her tubes tied.

Aside from how bizarre and downright anti-human this is, the shear treasonousness of it horrifies me, in a world where our kinds of human being are losing massive demographic ground to the lower types of humanity. All of us should be breeding, simply to "tread water", out of a basic sense of duty to our people. And what about filial piety? All those forebears stretching back into the dim and distant past: they struggle and suffered and held on, just for you to sit with your cats all night?! Disgusting.

Ah well, it's all made up for by playing in an orchestra, hoho! Bizarre.

>but I still don't have time to work a full-time job
What are online classes?

Is that a dress signifying her virginity?

THIS! Everything right here is what I am seeing too. I also agree on people losing their religion being part of it. I don't believe in faith anymore but if people just acted nice and more moral, that would be fine. Out of all the people that I know are getting married, only the religious ones I think are gonna have successful marriages.

I tried many times but I never managed to get out of it, I'm pretty much at the acceptance stage.

>Get married
>Get left after a few years
>She takes the kids
>Lose everything and still have to pay while she's off getting blacked
>Get back into the dating scene
>Women are more crazy and feminism is everywhere
>Go to court for sexual harassment over manspreading

Sounds about as fun as getting a vaccination directly into the urethra.

Is that documentary any good or were you just using it as part of your point? I hadn't heard of Dr. Drew before he crossed Hilldog.

Religious people and older generations were commonly out of love, not having sex, sleeping separately, divorced in marriage. I wouldn't think of this as successful. The absence of principle has more to do with current divorce rates than the religious being better at relationships.

You realize not everyone on here is a redpilled conservative right? I mean wow, 'treasonous'? Like I give a shit about the future of my particular 'race'. If humanity as a whole continues to progress, awesome. It's just plain petty and selfish to make having kids into some kind of race war where we've got to outfuck all the niggers and spics to make sure they don't take over the planet. Good fucking grief. I'm not going to 'breed' just for the sake of some white supremacy bullshit That's fucking retarded. I'll stick to contributing to culture instead.

girlfriend blew me off when we first started dating for her trainwreck of a "close" girl friend. we're on our second go and keeps telling me she loves me and whatnot. wonders why I don't say the same.

thinks her actions didn't have consequences and im supposed to forget the bullshit before and be fully into the relationship again.

if anything, im more emotionally detached this time around until she proves herself again

Jeb?

marriage is a government institution.

May I enquirer as to your age?

>I'll stick to contributing to culture instead.

I'm sure all those Aztecs, Muhammads and Igbo who are knocking around your way in your old age will be queuing for miles to attend one of your Schubert recitals!

No one has a high enough standard of living to get married though. Men have to be pretty affluent to be able to even be considered for marriage by women nowadays.

Perfect. Then I'll have lived the life I wanted to live, not as a spawn-spewing puppet in some race war fuck pit.

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Hope you live in a non common law state user

use the internet and apps. practice until you get better or snag one.

Because there is no profit for them, they can lose everything to a woman who makes a false rape accusation. Women don't even need men, they can rely on the state these days.

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We're fucked bro. I don't want to give up but shit...

Ive got some work coming up in South East Asia. I'm hoping to meet a Christian missionary girl there, or someone who is less self-less and judgmental. However the last time I was there the anxiety was crippling. I'm looking in to taking some low-dose diazapam to help, but I'm afraid of becoming addicted to it. Kind of have an addictive personality.

Do you mind elaborating a bit more please?

>practice talking to people
>get reputation as the creepy guy

Let the world burn.

you probably the only alt right retard that uses the N word in polite company

Good luck bro. I think if I ever get married, I'm just gonna have to shallow my pride and find myself a nice christian girl too.

>eating on the toilet
Enjoy your norovirus you disgusting racemixer

Honestly, this is my reason. Not worth gambling 50% of my assets.

>Is that a dress signifying her virginity?
Underrated. These whores all think they deserve to be treated like a Princess without ever acting like one.

I don't see people getting married much anymore, a couple of my relatives have only because they are considerably well off, not incredibly wealthy but have a decent amount. It's mostly lower class I see doing the trend of having a bastard child then again I was wondering how common this is becoming since I'm seeing it everywhere lately.

>Marrying for love was considered foolish and bad practice.

That was basically the point of Romeo and Juliet in a nutshell. Although it was always a plus when the arranged couple were madly in love with one another i.e. Mumtaz Mahal and Shah Jahan.

>Don;t want to be tied down by some bitch that makes me kiss her ass in order to get a little pussy
>want to fuck more than one woman for the rest of my life
>I hate children
>My career is more important to me that some bitch and a couple shitty kids
That's why I'm not getting married.

> My gf said she wants to marry because she will have the opportunity to dress up real nice and feel like a princess.

Your girlfriend sounds like a complete simpleton.

Better question is, why would millennials get married?

the trick is to not let them know about it

Because I have absolutely no motivation or drive to do anything outside of videogames, and even that's mostly lost its lustre.

Nah, that was high status people like said. Marriage for poor people is all about kids, sex and love. It had to be that way, and still is today. How many of you DON'T consider the physical/mental health of a partner? Discerning traits of potential mates is all about making decent kids, people who ignore this get unsuccessful offspring and are eventually removed from the gene pool.

what a cunt

here is just one example

>family in texas
>at friday night, both parents smoke a joint and watch a movie to chill
>neighbors smell marijuana and call the cops
>cops come and investigate
>cps gets involved
>they take custody of their 2 year old child
>give it to a foster family, the husband in that family had criminal charges of drug dealing
>one night 2 year old kid wants to grab a bite from the fridge
>mother wakes up in rage, takes a baseball bat and kills the kid on the spot

31 white male with wonderful white gf. Make shit tons of money and neo conservative.

MFW moron breeders ask me when im having kids or why i dont already.

Wrong, you need to be strong enough to share it, make a point of that.
They see it as brave and you will reap huge benefits as you instantly trigger their care giving nature.

I faked it for many years, always ended up with them either figuring out I was a poser, or me feeling isolated from them as I never really opened myself.

Once I spoke out about it, I owned it, it became powerless... And her reaction was to be way kinder to me and support me.

Don't fake it user.

I eas engaged once. 2 months later she left me for her ex that she left for me when they were engaged. They then got engaged again and she left him for some other guy a week before the wedding. Now I just masturbate and save money.

yes, the modern world creates too much stress and anxiety

Modern women demand to be treated like royalty all day every day, so a wedding day is not as special as it once was.

>Why are millennials not getting married?

I can barely afford rent

i was with one man before i married my husband
every day i think about dick that isn't my husband's
but otherwise i agree
especially this live life in the moment mentality
what the fuck is this
this is crazy
i blame capitalism
advertisers have got us looking for that jam we can put on the dopamine button
feel good NOW
have good sex NOW
be desired NOW
black dick NOW

>Organized religion
>2016
LOL

topkek that sounds too good to be true

No they don't. You sound like a weak faggot

28, married to a vietnamese chick since about a year.

she wants to marry because she will have the opportunity to dress up real nice and feel like a princess

Fucking run! Get out of there!

oh jesus fucking christ cry more you faggots, you'd drop a bitch and cry about it if she started lazing around getting fat or not giving you sex

a man being an unmotivated piece of shit with a stash of money hidden away is still an unmotivated piece of shit

a bitch in a fat suit not giving you sex is still a bitch not giving you sex and looking ugly all the time

at least the woman is future thinking, which only ever seems to be a thing for you retards when you don't get pussy

Marry an asian then. It's not like it's hard, they love white men because their culture adores white skin. But be nice man, marry, dont defile.

The 30% of men ("Chads") that fuck 90% of women don't want to marry because it'd mean they'd stop fucking different women all the time.
The 50% of men that have fucked once a drunk whore at a party don't find anybody.
The 20% remaining are completely shunned by women because "He's too ugly!!!" "He's so awkward!!!" "He's too short!!" "He doesn't dress well!!"

Unfortunately the 20% remaining tend to be the ones that would want to marry and settle down.

There's not a single reason to get married in 2016 (yes the current year). Living together is the same thing without having to give your shit away when she cheats on you. And let's be honest, marriage has become a joke. It was once a religious thing, but now even mentally ill homos can marry in a church, literally spitting on the bible.

woman wouldn't get anywhere without men.
this whole "i can do it on my own" is fucking bullshit.
we basically pushed woman to succeed and have wealth and they delude themselves to think they can compete with the heavy hitters of any industry (which is usually men).
we basically made them deluded to think that their effort means they can surpass men and do a better job than us

>be 21
>be the emotional and psychological embodiment of George Costanza
>have little in common with women my age

I can't even get a girlfriend to spend 2 months with me how am I gonna get a woman to spend her whole life with me?

>Meet qt at start of semester
>Really hit it off
>Both get drunk one night at a house party
>Accidentally end up telling her that I was diagnosed with Depression a few years back
>She becomes distant the next day
This was a girl that one might consider "understanding" too, but it was still a dealbreaker.

I lost 50 pounds over the fucking summer to build up my confidence, and I'm still an autistic retard. GOD DAMMIT

Date older women who are already settled in their job and their residence.

it's not the fact that she left him, it's the fact that she obviously wants to get back with him now that she knows

...

The woman wanted to get back with the unmotivated piece of shit after finding out he had loads of dosh. When she thought he was poor and unmotivated she said her goodbyes. Later when she found he actually had money she wanted back in.

She just wanted those cash prizes.

"hello I'm depressed" is codetalk for batshit crazy and you know what they say

>>never stick your dick in crazy

tfw fat as fuck and having no trouble hitting it of with girls because they mistake my redpilling with being funny

high risk, low reward
from a male perspective, anyway. it seems like women are incentivized to participate in the whole divorce rape/family ruining thing, and i want no part of that

all are crazy,, my ex took me to court

I would marry a hot girl . But since i dont know any, i dont

she's brushing her teeth u tard

Modern females aren't exactly marriage material.

>actually commiting to being legally bound to someone because they have a nice ass and cute smile
you will get cucked

I'm depressed too, but know this: It's hard to love somebody that doesn't love himself.

I really don't blame women (That disregard me because of my looks, not because of my depression) because if they actually were interested in me, I'd never be a worthy companion because I'm just not able to handle a relationship because of how depressed I am.

Even if my highschool crush(es) came back to me and told me they loved me, I wouldn't know how to handle this.

Shrilling higher than them doesn't do anything dear.

The fact is that men and women have been pushed apart by public relations for years now. It creates huge disorders among both genders as they have been told that they lack all the things the opposite sex desires...

And they have been told this in order to sell. Sell products that increase the chance of not only consummation... But love.

Both genders want nothing more than for the opposite gender to love them. It drives them mad, leaves them cold with apathy and insecure.


The best thing to do, is to be kind, set a positive example. Kill the divide with kindness.

Yelling at people on /pol just makes things worse. Especially as you obviously desire their understanding.

I could try something like that. But do older women want younger men? I look like I'm 17, but I'm 21.

Better than just 5 years with a white bitch lmaooooo

Japan is not really procreating either bro.

>dating costs money
>marriage costs money
>wedding costs money
>a house for newlyweds to live in costs money
>a family costs money

>there are no jobs for those 30 and under
>no income
>no job prospects
>fuckton of debt per person to even try to remotely find a stable income
>lol y u no get married?

Since I'm sure everyone else has gone the "modern women are awful" route, have something else.

>falling for the tax benefit meme

Yoooo lmao.

>50k

the sad thing about this is not how the system works, is that woman don't even care.
ask a woman about this and she will tell you "just get a girl that won't divorce on you then". its like saying if all houses are expensive then just get a cheap one.

this D E S U

you sound like a weak defeatist fag, even if you weren't depressed women would never be into you

yeah okay i take it back

it's a fad like anything else. couples nowadays are a fuckin' joke.

none of them will be with each other for life. the ones that are will be bored as SHIT because they have no kids and see the dogs they get (in replacement of kids) die off left and right.. just to replace them with another puppy. you wanna see something funny? when we get older, look at your friends who seem "successful" with women. your friends who act like every retard here with their relationships.

they will be the most unhappy depressed fucks because they chose the "childfree" life. they chose not to get married.

short-sighted fucks don't realize that a lifetime commitment REQUIRES more than just a common interest/sex. your relationship is pointless otherwise.

Yes, 50k. Weddings in north Jersey are fucking highway robbery.

One of my friends married a hot girl. It's usually not worth it. She's very athletic, so as a result she has an amazing body on top of a nice face. Poor guy is a nervous wreck though. As soon as the honeymoon phase wore off for him, he realized that guys who look much better than him are constantly hitting on her.

I predict she'll cheat on him within the next two years if she hasn't already and then suck his wallet dry after the divorce.

I don't want to marry the town bike, now every girl is the town bike.

> removed bait from trap

> why aren't bears not stepping in anymore?

Get him on the air with Tom Leykis ASAP m8

Depressed people tend to be weak and defeatist, kind of. When I'm saying "tend to", I mean "are all". I'm not talking about "my gf broke up with me and now I'm sad :'(" depressed.

It's most likely that they wouldn't be into me even if I wasn't depressed, just like I FUCKING LITERALLY SAID in the post you quoted: "Women (That disregard me because of my looks, not because of my depression)"

I'm plan to get married eventually just not right now, it's hard to find someone to settle with when your in your early 20's, especially nowadays because most women hate dedication. I live in Louisiana and we have the least cucked divorce laws plus Imma make that bitch sign the pre-nup

Women want a wedding, but not marriage. They fully intend to make NO sacrifices whatsoever. You gotta protect yourself by outlining that you will NOT have a fancy, expensive marriage.

My parents are in their 50s, got married at about 30, it was my Mom who proposed to my Dad, they did not have a wedding at all, just signed some documents in court. Also the ring costed only $100.

Now though my Dad has lots of money so my Mom excessively spends that money on frivolous shit, with on occasion something ridiculous like $1000 boots that look like shit.

why doesn't he get in shape with her

I agree that beautiful women are a curse though.

Cause we are wiser now days knowing she's gonna look like shit in a few years.

ehem actually it does
The judge can suspend a prenup though, but only if it is sittenwidrig. This usually means extreme benefits for one side or indirectly threatening the other side to sign or some shit. There also needs to be some sort of verwerfliche Gesinnung

ex: a young Colombian exchange student gets pregnant from an older guy while in Germany and the guy goes like weeeeeellll if you want me to stay around you better sign this prenup that says you can't leave the house/ can't divorce me.

this.
wedding and money moon is just testing the waters to how exploitable you are.
imagine being in a relationship and not having to worry about the cost of anything.

be more beta, i dare you

utter faggot

a judge can also cancel a prenup, im not saying he would. but just be aware that he can

but surely your dad loves to spoil his wife?
I know I would love to spoil my gf if Imhad money

Yes user, that is the whole point. Marriage is a legal contract that comes with a slew of benefits that can't be obtained simply by living together with your partner.

Wow. Hope he can kick AIDS.

But he needs good reason

Simple, I like all the money I have and I like being happy with career and doing whatever I want to do such as hobbies and exercise.

A woman would ruin all of that.

I just graduated High School and already a dozen people I knew got married.

Yes. 23 years married.

you really don't know how the justice system works.
good lawyers are smart and can get around prenups with false allegations

Where do you live? Islamberg, NY?

Taxes and Insurance mostly

Dr Dre*

Women want men who can provide for them (resources) while men want women who look attractive. Due to the economy and the reversal of gender roles its obvious why men aren't getting married

>>Why are millennials not getting married?
>because women will divorce, get the kids and all your money.

Luigi knows what's up.

>you have no idea how the justice system works
that's only half true, I haven't seen it in practice yet

>While it is true marriage isn't considered important anymore we have made other gains. Its been statistically proven by blacked.com that we also do not divorce as much due to sexual agreements and liberations. This allows both partners to get what they want. The woman vets her black stud and the husband gets to witness the glory.

>I've been married for 2.5 years now and things are going great.

True. True. Excellent source.

economy is worse for them. women want to work instead of raise children. american divorce laws are retarded towards men. massive student loan debts. poor upward mobility.

if you are inside a courthouse consider yourself already in trouble

well there is no turning back now

Nothing they teach you in law school will prepare you for the practice of law. Get a really good internship ASAP.

For instance, in this case, a video taped signing of a pre-nup with both sides represented by counsel, on tape and on audio, stating the main points of the prenup out loud is very difficult to overcome later due to ineffectual counsel, hidden asset claims, etc.

>I'm a pathetic faggot who doesn't know any women.
They outwardly demand that they be pampered only to drain dry the men who fall for it before branch swinging. Real men treat women as subservient because that's what women really want.

Jeb

I'd assume so. He's not a pussy, and frequently teases her for spending so much. But he has lots of money so its a non issue. Hypocritically, my Mom always yelled me for wanting to buy stuff, like a $7 pair of plastic sunglasses back when I was a kid when she went a bought $1000 purses.

There were times she went too far as well. She got plastic surgery to reduce her belly, saying bullshit that it was her "dream" (she always has a new dream, now its to travel Israel, but after the Arab Spring my Father said fuck that, now out of the blue she's saying her dream has ALWAYS BEEN to explore eastern europe.)

She's regained all the belly that was cut off. Now she's starting to hint that she wasn't another plastic surgery on her flabby arms, but I'm pretty sure she learned her lesson that it'll just come back.

She's one of those women that describes "shopping" has one of her hobbies.

Though I can't bash her too much. She's still much better than most modern women. She became a stay at home Mom and directly raised me and my sister. She was also surprisingly aware of many dangers of common "Mommy mistakes" like overcooking steak which makes it more carcinogenic.

She has moments where I think she's bipolar, but I'm pretty sure all women have some sort of mental disorder.

Eres muy based.