Developments Sept. 19 >Syrian Army foils massive jihadist attack in southern Aleppo >BREAKING: Syria army declares 'end' of ceasefire >Reports of a Red Crescent aid convoy targeted by airstrikes in W Aleppo after cease-fire ends >Assad accuses US of purposely targeting Syrian Army in Deir Ezzor >Russian Foreign Ministry: White House is "defending ISIS terrorists" >US Airstrikes kill +100 and wound +100 SAA soldiers in Deiz Ezzor >Rebels execute 26 civilians in Aleppo
Syrian presidential adviser accuses US of deliberately targeting Syrian Army - youtu.be/b27JHrXR8dc Samantha Power blames everything on Russia / defends US actions in Syria - youtu.be/w8sHzxILZMk
>Reportedly 3 groups merge in #Idlib. Face off with #AQ imminent, Northern Division, 13th Division and Liwa Suqour al-Jabal
>D-DON'T BOMB US PUTIN-SAMA!
Owen Wilson
Why do you all muricans shit on communism so much?
It's communists that are supporting Assad in Syria and Putin in Russia. Not to mention Lukashenko, Gaddafi, Saddam, etc.
Even Obama hates communists. Only fucking liberals that think communism is a dinner party of raising taxes keep up with the "muh commie" paddy.
Samuel Jenkins
it was monitored by UN
Aiden Wilson
my grandpa told me all i need to know about filthy reds
Levi Taylor
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Michael Stewart
Can we all agree that this attack is fortuite propaganda made up by White (rebel) Helmets?
Literally who the hell gives a shit. Like rebels wouldn't eat the fuck out of the aid, if there was even some aid in the first place.
Ian Murphy
>The current phase is coming
Noah Jenkins
denial kek, there was enough food and medical supplies for everyone
Tyler Morales
GUESS THE TIME GUYS
Colton Davis
>for everyone
Who's everyone? Who would've distributed them? Nour al-din al-zinki? Kek.
You're fucking dumb if you think it's not on the rebels' interest to keep the aid (plus, they have the weapons and support to do so) at the same time generating misery on the few civillians left which they can use to blame on the government.
Andrew Moore
Rate this /sg/
Parker Jones
you're just making shit up and assuming, even so it doesn't justify blowing up and aid truck
assad just did it as revenge, because he's too much of a pussy to shoot american planes in his own territory
Hudson Perez
It cannot yet be confirmed how the SARC headquarters and aid convoy was targeted, or by whom, but *White Helmets* were on the scene hastily. Hmm...
Yes, that is aid. The government-linked Syrian Arab Red Crescent would not be providing weapons to "rebels."
Blake Thompson
>assad just did it
Speaking of just making shit up. you got a source for that leaf?
Jace Murphy
>Leader of Kurdistan Democratic Party of Iran: we are now in war with the Iranian government.
saudis gonna fund the fuck out of them
Blake Sanders
>assad just did it as revenge, because he's too much of a pussy to shoot american planes in his own territory
Is this bait? If you think politics go this way without real, strategical reasons for (brutal attacks included) actions you're on the wrong general my Trudeau.
you're denying the SAA did the bombing? assad ordered torture of teenagers that criticized him, yeah it was to sow fear in the population, but part of why he did that was emotional
Levi Johnson
I wonder if Churkin will have to call a security counsel vote to get his balls back...
Juan Allen
RT had them setup during the ukraine war too
Sebastian Johnson
>#Iraqi PMU send condolences to #Syria soldiers killed in #US airstrikes. We stress coordination in anti-#ISIS effort I like PMU's twitter, its very professional.
TRUMP IS WITH SAA! PRAISE THE FUCKING KEK!!!!!!!!!!
Sebastian King
Wow Assad must be a really busy person, ordering 24/7 thousands of things. He must be a genius.
Can you go back to Human Rights Watch twitter and get the fuck out of /sg/?
Ayden Morris
>it's the "assad tortured teenagers" meme again top shill
Kayden Perez
Yes. Assad must finally step down.The Syrian people have long decided this.
Owen Lewis
you know what i mean, his men do the torture but he gave them the right to do so
Juan Morris
No. Tortures happen in EVERY single state, not just in Syria and it doesn't depend on the head of state that individuals and factions - specially the secret police - act outside of the law. After all, states exist to repress. And if, in fact, the Syrian "regime" was such a torturer and murderer, we wouldn't have had a single day of War, because it wouldn't have given space for dissidence to build up.
Jayden Gray
>The Syrian people The ones from this pic right?
Caleb Russell
>The "Syrian" people Rangeban south africa as well. The very same.
Joshua Cruz
he cant torture everyone, there was just too much people against him
Austin Rogers
>After all, states exist to repress. get this anarchist propaganda bullshit out of here you bimbo bitch
Xavier Cooper
Can we get some confirmation on this?
Jayden Cooper
YES E S
YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!
Jaxson Brooks
Trump reads /sg/
Juan Johnson
There are "too much people" against Rajoy here too. Nothing changes either. "Being against" in abstract means nothing - it was the rebel groups armed by the US that began all this shit.
Dude I'm not an anarchist wtf. It's a fact why the fuck do you think the state is for? Obviously it's not to repress random people. I'm for repressing certain people, not against it. Specifically, liberals.
Adam Perry
if theres one thing trump hates, its fucking ISIS he also said he will work with anyone who is anti ISIS he also doesnt like regime changing fucking neocons so theres no surprise he is pro SAA
Gavin Cruz
Russia doesn't have A-10,amerifat. They don't even use guided bombs, lol
Owen Rodriguez
>don't even use guided bombs i seriously hope ur not serious, blasphemer
Joseph Miller
>you're denying the SAA did the bombing?
You got any good evidence that they did, and under what circumstances?
Cooper Morales
He's going to have a hard time reconciling his love of Israel with his hate of ISIS though. Good luck to him, on that, though.
Also some regimes do need to be changed, like Saudi Arabia. Which is another instance where his love of Israel will clash with his hatred of scum.
Hudson Williams
assad is a dictator, people wanted him out, but he used force to stay in
Bentley Rivera
Saudi Arabia will have they war soon my friend :)
Ayden Gray
Nice cherry pick you got there,Russian booooo ''eushit'' Very very small percent had guided bombs. Out of 10 K sorties maybe 100 had guided bombs.
Keep cherring your ww2 style russian motherfuckers
Aiden Thomas
they admit it, this isnt even an issue of debate
Nathan Cook
Easy for you to digest, like a fucking baby.
I'm more and more getting the feeling you're baiting me, so please confirm
Are you fucking shitting me? That can't be fucking true. I swear to god, if I didn't know it better, I'd guess that this is satire. Bakery Generators, gogo fucking kill yourself you piece of shit. You can literally make bread with an open fire and a stick. Did that in fucking preschool Except for maybe the flour you can make everything by hand. And I doubt they deliver wheat grains instead of flour into the city, as it needs more space. I swear to god, this fags shitposting is on a next level and the worst part is that, unlike australians, he doesn't even think he's shitposting.
Brandon Thomas
I think that we need to ban all white women from the state department
These ivy league-educated cunts that have never been told no in their lives, have never been in a fight or had their ass kicked are going to start WW3. I wonder if she's an only daughter.
Matthew Anderson
>88.7% LMFAO you guys are delusional
Charles Diaz
Can you direct me to this admission? I can find no evidence of it existing.
>I have spent my entire life letting my mind get so warped by """liberal democracy""" that I have no comprehension that a state can serve its people and has a popular leader
Michael James
Russians are fueling this conflict, fucking scum. Russians literally, intentionally missiled the Dutch plane. How are they ever different from ISIS scum who bombed the Egypt plane?
Stop being russiaboos everyone else
Colton Ross
BAGHDAD, IRAQ (3:20 A.M.) - The Iraqi Army has kicked off their long-awaited offensive to liberate Al-Shirqat, Jazirat Al-Ramadi, and Jazirat Heet from the Islamic State terrorists.
According to Prime Minister Haider Al-'Abadi, the military operations at the aforementioned areas kicked off thirty minutes ago.
"We announce the start of operations to liberate Al-Shirqat, Jazirat Al-Ramadi and Jazirat Heet, with the efforts of our brave forces," Al-'Abadi tweeted this morning.
The town of Al-Shirqat is located at the northwestern tip of the Salaheddine Governorate; its proximity to the Mosul-Baghdad Highway makes it a top priority for the Iraqi Armed Forces.
The islands of Jazirat Al-Ramadi and Jazirat Heet are located along the Euphrates River in the Al-Anbar Governorate; these are areas are the last pockets under the Islamic State's control near the provincial capital.
Anthony Hughes
It's a presidential election with the support base (Damascus) being the majority of the Syrian people who didn't flee.
Plus Arabs have never had liberal revolutions and have the western democratic pluralism in their minds. Just look at Russia. Even if the US controlled their elections, Putin and United Russia would still have the vast majority. We're talking different political and cultural realities. It's normal, specially because we're talking a PRESIDENTIAL election, not a parliamentary one.
Singapore for example has all but ONE fucking seat dominated by ONE party and nobody calls that a dictatorship.
Michael Nelson
Luring USA into the conflict do better for Trump actually
Landon Taylor
You swine. You vulgar little maggot. You worthless bag of filth. As we say in canada. I'll bet you couldn't pour piss out of a boot with instructions on the heel. You are a canker. A sore that won't go away. I would rather kiss a lawyer than be seen with you. You're a putrescent mass, a walking vomit
Landon Wilson
ok mister zero-sense-of-humour t*rk, let me spell it out for you
their bomba don't need guidance because they're LITERALLY GUIDED BY GOD
yeah, definitely good luck with that clusterfuck
many many regimes need to be changed, but not in the way that Iraq or Libya were changed
Saudi Arabia is one tochka away from a regime change
Daniel Perez
I forgot, misogynistic islamophobic niggerphobic mexophobic pedophobic white supremacist christian rapist.
Christian Thomas
$0.20 has been deposited into your account. We thank you for your contribution Muhammad al-Shillani.
Juan Jones
What are you, a neet? Shouldn't you people be asleep
Wyatt Butler
Can someone explain the samantha Powers meme?
what'd she do this time?
Parker Richardson
>their bomba don't need guidance because they're LITERALLY GUIDED BY GOD
This explains why Russia couldnt achieve anything in this war
Hudson Jones
Have you ever seen any USA warplanes bombed civilians? Russians are scum.
Russians don't have GOD. They are the lowest scum on the earth even god doesn't like them They are cursed
Nathaniel Lewis
>Have you ever seen any USA warplanes bombed civilians?
>Afghanistan, Iraq, MSF bombings by 'accident', air support for Kurds in Northen Syria, Libya
HAHAHAHAHHAHAHA
Dylan Bailey
Flipped her shit, acted like a wild ape, defended the illegal bombing of soldiers of a secular government's military in orer to aid an illegal islamist regime. You know, just normal entitled corrupt puppet cunt things.
Ayden Bell
Excused the attack on the SAA with "It was just a single missfire, why is everyone so upset?!?" while being pretty pissed. It's kinda funny, really. A hundred family fathers and sons just died for nothing, but she, representing the responsible people, is the angry one.
Thomas Mitchell
The kike shrieks in agony as he stabs you in the back.
Brandon Mitchell
Americans use K*rds for proxy lol Do you think USA would choose K*rds over Turkey? kek delusional faggots America>Russia. America did good job by killing SAA.
Nicholas Murphy
Samantha Powers is the same evil lying cunt that bragged about how much money the state department spent """"""""promoting""""""""" (((democracy))) in Ukraine
also >funds rebels to destabilize country >evil Pulter stops you from toppeling government >WHAT THE FUCKKK STOP PROMOTING VIOLENCE, EVERY DEATH IN THIS CIVIL WAR IS NOW YOUR FAULT
holy fuck i'm counting the days till Trump fires all of these bloodthirsty globalist lunatics
Jeremiah Morales
Assad still in power
Caleb Adams
You fucktards never cease to amaze me. You've been fucked way too hard in the ass by Grey Wolves, you caught a roach mind disease.
Luis Parker
wtf i love america now
Nicholas Stewart
That would be the plane that ignored warnings and deliberarely flew into a war zone where the Russian forces were getting bombarded by the Ukrainian air force?
James Rogers
I hope Al-Jaafari barrel bombs the fuck outta her.
Colton Evans
>Grey Wolves How is that even releated? LMAO K*rds got fucked hard by Grey wolves militants
Juan Parker
Firing isn't enough, unless we're talking about firing them in an oven. They all need to die, every last one of them, justice must be done for their crimes.
Joshua White
>muh petrodollar I always love the butthurt of 3rd world contries like spain and syria. feels good desu.
Julian Long
I thought they were going to Mosul first, but it seems like they will leave it for last.
Brody Hughes
What does petrodollar have to do with being butthurt?
nothing, it's just an old meme. Especially because we don't need the saudshits for oil anymore.
Henry Kelly
Lol bakery generators?
Kayden Thompson
Do you want Iraq 2.0? Who takes over after steamrolling?
Blake Green
Then why are you so cucked by salafism and political correctness over sunni islam?
Michael Brown
t*rks take it, no need for any US involvement beyond what it is doing now.
James Hall
Tbh I would vote al-Jaafari for the next president of Syria
Jeremiah Gray
> but *White Helmets* were on the scene hastily. Hmm...
This this this and this.
James Robinson
he looks like a fucking Aladdin villain
Benjamin Rodriguez
He looks gorgeous. Yes homo.
Nathan Cox
Interesting, this churka says Russian population will drop by 10% in three decades, instead of growing
Turkish population will be almost the same with Russia then. Kind of weird when you think about it.
Alexander Thomas
Uhh yeah? Doctors without borders has been bombed accidentally by US several times if I'm not mistaken. Also civilian targets. I'd like to think they were accidental but with Obama running things who fucking knows.
Juan Campbell
He's a big guy
Liam Baker
Do you guys have video? I heard she acted like a huge bitch. Sounds like a fucking cunt, especially after 80+ dudes died and thats not even counting the guys that died when the position was overrun by ISIS.
Connor Thompson
The elites are in a hurry to get us into a war with Russia. Sovereign debt crisis coming. They'd rather take us all down in flames, than lose power.
pic related
Hudson Brown
You are fucking retarded if you truly think this way... US needs to be working with Assad and Russia.
Liam Wright
that's missile, not a bomb.
Juan Ramirez
I'm talking about Syria conflict,dude While Russian scums using forbidden bombs and hitting civilian areas, USA was bombing ISIS. USA killed may isis emir in iraq and syria. Russia is only good at killing civilians Of course Cred Forums is anti american and pro Russian. Who am i talking huh?
Owen Hill
I missread. Turks can't do that because they would be bombed by Russia if they advance too far.
Charles Walker
>""civilians"" >falling to the sohr meme
Landon Young
>While Russian scums using forbidden bombs and hitting civilian areas >Russia is only good at killing civilians
Xavier Garcia
Yes, still rusians do have the so called smart bombs
Camden Brown
>assad ordered torture of teenagers that criticized him no he didn't you retarded faggot all of that was propaganda for a casus belli against Syria, you fucking tool
there are alot of video and pictures about dead civilians and kids. No need for this damage control
Luis Sanchez
Nvm found it. Wow. Push the narrative much? WTF is wrong with my country? I know things aren't exactly black and white, there's lots of grey but still.... this is just pathetic.
Russia literally has enough FOABs to carpet your third world shithole in purging flames. And we all know how easily leafs immolate and how unable they are to put out fires. Also >cucknada >having military >under sultan DUDE "if you kill your enemies then they win" WEED LMAO man >implying he doesn't wan all canadians to win
Nathan Sanchez
TY I found it below. Pretty fucking disappointed in my country's leadership but I know what their doing. We need Trump in here and now, for many reasons.
Chase Campbell
Russian planes would drop like flies if they attempt to bomb Turkish Forces
Dominic Gomez
>Implying these are not used for propaganda purposes >Implying anyone cares about civilians in syrian anymore
Kurds obviously like to draw the civilian card when they seem to be on the loser's side.
Mason Morris
>those yellow ngrs What?
Jonathan Moore
What do you, as a turk, a country whom 90% of its residents fucking HATE israel and the kikes, care if Cred Forums is anti-(((zogmerican))) and pro-secularussian, unless you're not a native turk and actually a CIA faggot there doing cointelpro? Hmm? Fuck off if you don't fucking like it, oh wait, you can't because you're contractually obligated to shitting up this place in order to get paid.
Jace Morris
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Nathan Ortiz
>Something something hormones in processed food
Russians did same thing in chechenya and doing again in Syria Russia will destroy Syria and leave like they did in afghanistan.
Camden Lee
It has so many things to criticize in those 5 minutes I don't even know where to start.
Joshua Evans
>we nigger please
Aaron Collins
no it was reported by un >he doesn't know about our spec ops
>The firefighters stopped working on Wednesday after they heard about a report in their home country that suggested they were being paid between $15 and $21 an hour. They were actually making $50 for a 12-hour work day, according to their contract.
Robert Stewart
>no it was reported by un Link?
Jaxson Reed
Western PR operation - works with the terrorists
Connor Bell
WH = Al Qaeda Al Qaeda = FSA FSA = Nusra Nusra = ISIS
Jaxon Lewis
Trump should build two walls instead of one.
Charles King
>flies might not be the best choice of words. We may be allies but I doubt you could stand up to the ruskis
Aiden Harris
>no it was reported by un no it wasn't dipshit, neo-cons repeated the same shit over and over and then US news outlets starting saying the same shit ad nauseum
at least know what the fuck you're talking about
Dylan Brooks
Don't worry, China and Russia will rebuild the country, Assad stays in power and Kurds get btfo'd. Look at Grozny, it looks better after the war than before and Kadyrov easily tames the clans there.
Christopher Moore
this is soviet russia level of lying...
Robert Williams
Greatest allies to the moderate democratic freedom fighters and bringers of (((humanitarian aid)))
>using facebook >any year I'll never understand this meme, in all honestly.
Angel Rodriguez
Reported by the UN is an argument saying it's trustworthy? Did you forget people in charge of UN lied about Gaddafi bombing his own people and approved a no fly zone that fucked him over even worse? I would bet money they are just trying to push the narrative so they can resupply terrorists in sieged alleppo.
Have you not seen the videos of celebrating "civilians" after the initial break of the siege? Waving FSA and Al Qaeda flags and shooting off AKs. Also all men and teenage boys? That seem like citizens in need to you?
Nathan Morales
This guys.
Brandon Murphy
LALALA EVERYTHING I DISAGREE WITH IS PROPAGANDA LALALA
Jaxson Young
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Jason Clark
Anyone has the links that show FSA using chemical weapons on civilians/SAA?
I know someone posts it here all the time.
Evan Hall
Venezuelan Tier
William Ross
>holy fuck i'm counting the days till Trump fires all of these bloodthirsty globalist lunatics There might not be enough time, they are working over time to heighten tensions.
Jeremiah Kelly
LALALALA I WONT PROVIDE LINKS AND JUST KEEP TALKING SHIT LALAL
Juan Bailey
>acting like a little bitch instead of citing evidence
This is the kind of people I have to live with in my country
John Cooper
The leaf! Lol have you even looked at the press conferences of joint chiefs of staff and secretary of defense? Or all the discrepancies of the reporting? Or the cables sent to Clinton?
Henry Hill
POuahhah fucking kek dude .. Unhollywood hit again
DAILY REMINDER THE ONLY RACE TO KILL SLAVSHIT RUSSIANS SINCE WWII ARE TURKS.
FEELZ FUCKING GOOD
YOU SHOULD TRY IT EUROKEKS
Nathaniel Scott
I never saved that pasta but it's likely to be contained inside several of the archived pastebins from last year that were posted in the previous thread. However I'm sure most of those links have gotten memoryholed by now.
Kayden Hall
Yeah this event just pushed it over the edge for me. They are actively trying to push this shit and make it a mess. Anyone who follows this stuff with a brain knew what they were doing but this puts it right out in the open.
I mean, even when I very first started learning about Libya and Syria I could have done a better job than this fucking bitch.
hopefully not, but it looks like Russia outplayed the US yet again
Kudos to Putin!
Juan Walker
FUCK SLAVSHIT RUSSIANS
Levi Phillips
Really depends on how huge the attack on that aid convay will get.
Robert Watson
Go look up who she is. tldr She is the author of the ideology of humanitarian intervention, or imperialism is okay if MSF signs off on it.
Ayden Martin
This is literally one step away from being godlikeproductions2.0 at this point. >shillshillingshills.webm
Camden Turner
she basically ignored Chrukin's speech, walked out on it and then held a briefing and basically used 6th grade retort to Churkin's emergency UN meeting about the US planes destroying SAA's army position that got hit, killing 62 soldiers and wounding 100
something to the effect of? "Really? Really? I got calling in for an emergency meeting because of one accident?!"
This is a US ambassador to the UN.
Aaron Stewart
Daily reminder that Russia has been eradicating roaches in every single war since the dawn of civilization
Wyatt Morris
Power IS a massive cunt with no social skills. How they allow her into the UN is beyond me.
Cameron Taylor
fuck russians they are cringy and retarded version of whites, they should all starve to death
David Gray
She's pretty much the typical entitled white woman that throws a hissy fit when things dont go her way
John Fisher
Thanks lad m8
Sebastian Russell
Soon JFS aka nusra will get btfo by moderate rebels in idlib and the revolution will come back to life with jarabulus rebels inshallah
turkey not saudi arabia
Henry Barnes
>t. mudblooded egyptian mudslime Valhalli, my nigger.
Carson Thomas
DAILY REMINDER THAT SLAVSHIT WOMEN GET FUCKED BY TURKS (WE WEAR CONDOMS DONT WORRY)
DAILY REMINDER WE AMRAAM MISSILE THEIR MEN IN THE SKY
ARE TURKS THE MOST ALPHA BEINGS ON EARTH RIGHT NOW?
Gabriel Reed
>t.mudblooded nigger shia
Jackson Sanders
God is great Death to Aisha Death to Abu Curse on the Sunni Victory to Mohammed
Brayden Jackson
>insulting the quran enjoy hell kek
Luis Murphy
I guess samantha really loves power.
Cooper Peterson
This retard posted more pictures?
Leo Jenkins
Russians are like byzantines, and usa is like western rome, even during the crusades they attacked byzantine.
Today we have the same scenario.
Andrew Flores
Deir ez-Zour when?
Grayson Perez
Fellujah when?
Christopher Jones
Are you a burger who wakes up in the morning and cries to himself while remembering 9/11:
"Why do they hate us"
You see that deirezzour air strike? That's why the world hates you.
(And no, despite being lying cucks, my government had nothing to do with it)
>Australia will pay for what they did to us on 9/11 Genuinely kek'd
Jordan Morgan
Oh fuck off. We hated them long before 9/11, they hated us long before 9/11. We'll hate them when 9/11 is long forgotten, they'll hate us when 9/11 is long forgotten. And if we're honest we don't care whether they are Shia or Sunni, Turks or Kurds either. In the eyes of most white folks all of them are dirt. Even the libs think they are dirt, they just think they can somehow cultivate a flower on that dirt.
It didn't change the last 1000 years, it won't change the next 1000 years. Whether we bomb Assad, the FSA, ISIS, or nobody, they'll find a reason to hate us.
I'm not saying that Deir el-Zor was ok, actually I think it's a tragedy, but in the long run, the hate between the East and the West, it doesn't matter. Leave the middle east alone, build a wall around it and let it simmer for a few hundred years. Lift the lid from time to time to check, if it's still shit, close it again for as long. Or just end their suffering alltogether. In the long run, you'll probably safe more human lifes that way than by keeping them around.
We have a history of shame and no, the parody SJWs that keep whinging about "black slavery" are deliberately obfuscating the real reason why the world condemns the US for being the modern incarnation of the British empire.
Maybe you don't care, that's fine, you can delude yourself into thinking that history won't judge you and your progeny won't pay the price for the crimes committed in your name. Just leave us out of it, we've had enough of your wars. Not in my fucking name. I was truly truly disgusted to see the US drag Australia's name in the mud with this bombing.
Evan Wilson
Does anyone have some traditional music from the region? Like those epic songs in everyone's videos, but without the angry poetry.. Suggestions?
Would def. ride into battle with this blaring from a chopper's PA
Ryder Perry
What the fuck is happening in Libya right now? Who are the good (Ba'athist/Gaddafist) guys and who are the bad (NATO/Israel) guys?
Jace Campbell
Fuck off Mohammed. If you don't like the UK an it's allies you can go back to Pakistan you filthy Jihadist. You wish any of your mudshit countries would be as advanced and powerful as the NATO.
Josiah Wilson
No they are not lol. Yes, western intervention acted as a catalyst, but the breakdown of the islamic world in modern times is inevitable. Sure the US does a lot of fucked up shit in the middle east that's not to be questioned, however the hate is much older than that, much older than the US itself. We hate each other because we are too different and that won't change until the islamic world gets their Martin-Luther and a Thirty Years War. Judging by the islamic fragmentation and the universal hate on more modern, less radical believes, that will never happen.
The modern West is not compatible with the islamic world until it reforms and I highly doubt it will do so any time soon. As long as it doesn't there will always be war, no peace and they will be the aggressors because we are rich, they are not and they think we are the reason for that.
Parker Ortiz
Was the aid convoy that got bombed an aid convoy or an "aid convoy"?
Mason Cook
Aren't you forgetting some billions of dollars of debnts that you should have been paying? If you don't pay them NATO will end, you realize that, right?
Jose Torres
Wow. I presume you support the "Free" "Syrian" "Army" too?
Parker Richardson
Fuck NATO
Gavin Hernandez
>Yes, western intervention acted as a catalyst, but the breakdown of the islamic world in modern times is inevitable. Albania seems to be fine.
It's quite hilarious
"Yeah we murdered him, but hey, he was going to die eventually".
When you stop giving air support to ISIS, you can take the moral high ground and talk about reform in the Islamic world, until then sit the fuck back down.
Anthony Ward
Dude sorry but that's full of shit. Sunnis and Shias coexisted fine when politics were well governed. Bad governance leads to identity politics to fill the vacuum and that creates a crisis. Everywhere you look, whether South Sudan or Ukraine, you have modern nations collapsing under the stress of bad governance.
The collapse of the "Muslim world" (as if such a thing is uniform - the current crisis seems centered on Arabs and adjacent areas) - was not inevitable due to religion, it was inevitable due to bad governance.
Arabs had their own Martin Luthers in the 19th century - see al Kawakibi, Qassim Amin, Mohammad Abdo. A modernist Islam did very much exist, it was the failure of the Arab elite to capitalize on it that spurred a totalitarian reaction.
Ian Allen
>so much nonsense >nonsense that depends on not understanding the terms >begin to put together an explanation for how none of this makes any sense at all -- >Countryside General >Oh.
Logan Adams
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Carter Torres
>Sunnis and Shias coexisted fine when politics were well governed First off, literally everything everywhere existed fine when well governed. Secondly, even that isn't true. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1991_uprisings_in_Iraq
Brody Foster
They'll hate you no matter what you do. >fight SAA War against the president, only possible through proxy, who do you support there if all are shit? >fight FSA Literally terrorists, but also muh hope for Syria and moderate religious regime. Also kill civilians as they use them as shields. >fight ISIS You'll kill civilians, as they use them as shields.
If it wasn't for the oil we should just build a wall, but they got oil that we need. I'm not a fan of our intervention either, but it's either that or genocide the entire area
Give the moderate muslim countries like Turkey and Albania some time. 10, 20 tops and they'll be full jihad as well
Ethan James
>when politics were well governed
What part of "well governed" do you fail to understand? You had to pick Saddam Hussein of all examples.
>First off, literally everything everywhere existed fine when well governed.
Exactly. So, the essentialist argument that Muslims are doomed to fail no matter what is fallacious. The demons come out in any culture when abused (and abuse can be either internal or external - I'm not throwing around blame here). The 20th century saw civil wars in every corner of the world from Latin America to Southeast Asia. But you have people with the attention span of a goldfish that think the era they live in represents the norm.
David Morris
Dude sorry but that's full of shit. The followers of Mohammed coexisted fine when wives were well governed. Bad governance of wives leads to assassinations of prophets to create the vacuum and that fills the levant with crisis. Everywhere you look, whether Syria or Iraq, you have modern levantines killing each other over the treachery of whores who burn in hell.
Samuel Kelly
Replace women with tyrants and then you'd be right.
Mason Cruz
Your religion is against education and badly educated people elect bad governments. That wasn't a problem when muh hamad was still around, as you could solve bad politics through war. Today you can't and every muslim country that takes its religion seriously is shit.
Also I included the Thirty Year War, a Martin-Luther isn't worth shit without that. And you guys need this and you need it fast.
Zachary Jones
I picked Sadaam because he was a hardline totalitarian ruler. And even under his governance the Shias and sunni still fought.
I never argued Muslims were doomed to fail, I don't think that.
Tyler Murphy
If secular Muslim colonial empires colonized Europe last century, Christian fundamentalists would go "full jihad" too. Trying to export a Christian based political order into a rival religious population, what were you expecting would happen? Literally every single Muslim government except for Saudi Arabia had a Westernized political class ruling over it whether native or foreign. Christians find their way because no external culture bothered invading London or Paris.
Education was fine in centuries of Muslim history. Ever heard of the Mutazilites? Of course you haven't. You are essentializing.
We had plenty of centuries of war. That isn't at stake here. What's at stake is that Christian Europe in the 19th and 20th centuries rebuilt the whole world in its own image, and this has rubbed Islamist forces the wrong way. Secular nationalists tried to salvage the situation but they failed massively, leading to their replacement by Islamist forces in the 1980's.
Ethan Adams
Totalitarian is not well governed. Sunnis and Shias coexisted in some eras of Iraqi history and fought in others because consistent good governance was never present. I didn't say you think that, I was just responding to the other guy in my argument.
Jaxson Hughes
>Totalitarian is not well governed.
Hudson White
>Totalitarian is not well governed. Totalitarian is well governed. Dictatorships are intrinsically more stable than the transitional periods without them in the middle east. See: Libya, Iraq, Yemen, Egypt, etcetera.
Thomas Miller
And then you are confused when all hell breaks loose.
Evan Torres
Based Pinocchio.
Aiden Ward
Show me a single stable middle eastern or African democracy. >inb4 south africa Inherited from apartheid rule AND is de facto a single party ANC state.
Asher Barnes
>Islamist sharia law caliphate isn't totalitarian
Adrian Rodriguez
South Africa is also a shithole now, and violence ramped up against innocent whites after Apartheid ended.
I know a guy who escaped to New Zealand after his father was killed.
Nathan Brooks
Did I ever call our plan genious? In my opinion we should've ended you when we had the chance and technological advantage. Burn down every last inch of your land right after the cold war. Of course you don't want us around and I get why our system doesn't work in your countries. But that doesn't alter my initial statement.
We always hated each other and we always will. That's because, especially in a globalized world, we have a lot to do with each other, but are different to the core. Yes, we affected the world a lot during the last two centuries because that's what humans do. Some of you guys think they can turn back the wheel because they hate what we have done to the world - because they hate us. But they can't. And that's why they will always hate us and we'll always hate them.
Asher Allen
Yeah, I know, but it' still technicaly a functioning democracy, it's just that everyone of the coons votes for muh "freedom" party.
Ian Martinez
Not at all, it's like how KSA is now, a authoritarian cultural government, more like a feudalism with steroids
Zachary Murphy
Yeah guess who funded mandela and his terrorist group >definitely not the jews
Grayson Anderson
Israel actually supported Apartheid because the Süd Afrikans helped them get nukes.
Ryder Rodriguez
Israel =/= Marxist revolutionary Jews
Anthony Martin
They vary. Sometimes they're tht, othertimes they're forcefully migrating Palestinians. Israel is a fusion of domestic far right and foreign far left. For example, they support Europe taking migrants but of course refuse to take any themselves.
Tyler James
Nationalism for me, but not for thee, goyim.
Luke Howard
>SA gets nukes for Israel >shortly after mandela and his goons light enough tires around the necks of afrikaaners and the (((western media))) start crying about (((muh apartheid))) immdiately after Really makes you think.
Brayden Reed
>Israel =/= Marxist revolutionary Jews
What in the fuck?
Chase Miller
Basically the kikes disposed of the south african government after they had outlived their usefulness, discarded them like a fucking used jizzrag while simultaneously coincidentally eliminating anyone who could possibly leak the knowledge of Israel's nukes.
David Carter
Fun fact: South Africa gave up their nuclear weapons in 1989 because they knew the regime wouldn't last forever and they didn't want blacks to have access to them.
>the DARK truth about why south africa destroyed its nuclear weapons program das raycis
Sebastian Parker
Left-wing Jews tend to have slightly different ideals than right-wing Jews.
Andrew Mitchell
For me all are fucking jews, in the oven they go
Thomas Ward
How white are you?
Nolan Martin
White Latin/10
Asher Hughes
>being this new Don't indulge this kike, Chilebro.
Eli Powell
you tell me
Colton Butler
Spanish-white or mestizo-white?
Jeremiah Turner
I'm not a zebra
Cooper Evans
Only two states were ever totalitarian, Nazi Germany and USSR under Stalin. To be totalitarian means to control absolutely every part of civilian life. The countries you written were autocratic dictatorships, milder form.
Brandon Rodriguez
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Ryder Rogers
MAY ALLAH GUIDE BASED ASSAD
Cameron Lopez
really makes you think
Jackson Anderson
Really makes you think
Brandon Stewart
Kurds need gassing.
Aiden Price
I'm with you
Nolan Martin
No arguments here.
Lucas Martinez
>aid convoy hit by airstrike WTF! I GUESS I'M "A JIHADDIN FOR BIN LADDIN" NOW
James Anderson
>Sweden
user, I...
Andrew Thompson
I definitely agree with this picture that Iraqi Kurdistan and Israel are cancer. Biji Rojava, my comrade!
Jace Moore
How about not fund FSA, not provide ISIS with CAS and generally stay out of trouble?
You fucking retard.
Liam Mitchell
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Cameron Perez
they have finally arrested the mastermind behind the coup
>Arrest warrant issued for famous baklava maker over coup charges
Sebastian Cooper
At the rate Erdogan is arresting Turkroaches the whole hive is going to empty out
Jaxon White
And NDF/Palestine Resistence is clashing again on the Handarat Front, here some hive of FSA/Nusrats
Bentley Harris
You are still essentializing. What you did caused the hatred to continue. There was no reason for it to continue. Own up to your responsibility as agents like I'm trying to do with my people, and stop crying that you'll be hated no matter what you do to escape from it.
Bentley Kelly
1. See image, it's not just South Africa.
Mali was the only stable western Muslim democracy before the events of 2013. Mostly they're still better than everyone else, their issues are mostly related to the Arab/Tuareg nomadic minorities up in the sparse north.
Recently Tunisia is showing promise.
2. Even if there was no stable African/Middle Eastern democracy, you can argue the same thing for Cold War politics in Latin America and southeast Asia to justify totalitarian strongmen. That doesn't change the fact that totalitarians are part of the problem not the solution.
Wyatt Long
How many nations have to get couped before we finally BAN ASSAULT BALAKLAVAS?
>Democracy index >every party in the west is retarded social liberal globalists It's not much of a democracy when everyone shits the same, oh wait that would make America and half Europe red....
Asher Watson
MAY ALLAH GUIDE BASED ASSAD
William Morris
Why dont RuAF just carpet bomb Aleppo?
Angel Hall
Authoritarian =/= stable
Democracy doesn't have to be perfect, just compare it to the alternatives.
Liam Bailey
checked. Also seconded on the motion that this hippie piece of shit that the Americans deemed fit to become their ambassador is infact a cunt.
Grayson Carter
kek!!
Gabriel Clark
Well you're right to a point, the British handled the sandiggers much better, they never acted like equals with the scum dogs, they just played one sect against the other and let them kill each other. If any wanted to pretend to be white they allowed that too. The USA is too soft if anything.
Joshua Adams
MAY ALLAH GUIDE BASED ASSAD
Matthew Jones
Democracy =/= Plutocracy
Plutocrats use democracy to delude ordinary voter into thinking that his opinion matters, and it's not happening just in Russia. Russia is at least honest to some degree and Russians know what they must sacrifice for stability since half of the world wants to tear them up for resources.
But since you live in a Federative Monarchy I must say that the system as unique as is. Though it's honest to it's people.
Ayden Parker
>al-Jaafari Gives off a Tywin Lannister vibe
Chase Diaz
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Noah Jenkins
There is no evidence no matter how much you swear faggot
Isaac Sanders
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Jeremiah Smith
Pure coincidence.
Easton Morgan
No fly zone against burger planes when?
Austin Williams
>DAILY REMINDER THAT SLAVSHIT WOMEN GET FUCKED BY TURKS Thanks for that ;)
James Baker
Ah, so that's where we send all the uglies.
Hunter Allen
The petrodollar is not about getting enough oil, its about stabilising the us-rollar, so thatbyour consumer based nation does not collaps economically. Practically the opposite of what theneuro is to germany.
Cooper Watson
bump
Jacob Sullivan
I heard the roaches like fat women, out there they have a chance to have sex.
Colton Jenkins
NFZ against a genocidal dictator who literally gasses his own people and BOMBS THE FUCKING UN when?
Camden Cook
Russia is fucked. Kerry is demanding a second ceasefire.
Leo Ward
>Hurrrr gas >Sweden Just cuck my shit up m8
Ryder Baker
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Nolan Perez
>2017-1 >not liking thicc women
Kayden Mitchell
MAY ALLAHGUIDEBASEDASSAD
Nathaniel Lewis
A fucking leaf
Nathan Perry
Pretty much, fucking manlet will let them have another go at the SAA. Unbelievable
Cameron Morgan
(((Kerry))) would have a better chance at getting the Mahdi to come down from the heavens and vaporize Assad with his Allah-granted laser beams, thus triggering global nuclear holocaust, than getting another ceasefire at this point.
Hunter Evans
I guess AQ needs more time to get ready for their next offensive. 7 days were not enough they were busy celebrating eid for couple of days.
Austin Foster
what a nutless piece of shit
Luis Campbell
Tbh I expect most vehicles in syria to look slightly military ish after 5 years war
Connor Hughes
>porko met with hillary and they discussed anti-Russia sanctions >US is blaming Russia for convoy bombing Oh noes.
Sorry to burst your bubble, but dumb cows fall for your kind only because of "passionate eastern lover" and "eastern/mussie men are great fathers" memes. Same goes for mountain niggers from Caucasus.
Gavin Baker
>#BREAKING: Saudi airlines jet isolated at Manila airport, pilot advised airport that plane was 'under threat' - Control Tower
fugg evacuate tall buildings
Carson Richardson
The male-to-female demographics in Russia have more to do with it, plenty of wife material natashas around, not many beta cucks who's settle with failed humans around.
It's the opposite case for America.
Kevin Long
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Bentley Hernandez
Hello, Cred Forums-bros. 2ch is down, whats last news? Why syrian soldiers have M-16?
Caleb Davis
OK Pootenists how do you explain the bombing on innocent UN aid trucks?