Redpill me on trannys Cred Forums...

Redpill me on trannys Cred Forums, are they truly degenerate freaks with mental disorders or a legitimate group of people who are just misunderstood? Explain and discuss.

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There are way more people transitioning than there can possibly be cases of genuine gender dysphoria.

Sexual fetishes gone wild. They're not mentally disabled, they're just fucking faggot freaks who take their sissification way too far.

Don't like yourself? No problem, change yourself into a radically different person!

Most of them are idiots who get on hormones and surgeries just to kill themselves some years later

peer pressure and low self esteem

one in a hundred thousand (arbitrary number) is a legitimate case of truly being uncomfortable with their own gender, and truly wanting to switch. the rest is following the trend, have a mental illness, are on treatments affecting their thoughts in strange ways, or simply does not care or fathom what is happening to them.

for the legitimate cases, they can usually be treated with specific types of medicines (there was a whole thread dedicated just to the medicine yesterday) among which types mentioned was medicine for schizophreniaa and so on.

bipolar medicine supposedly works wonders too.

>there was a whole thread dedicated just to the medicine yesterday

I was on it too, a shame it got no attention at all

As all of us moderates know, the truth is always somewhere in the middle. They're legitimately degenerate freaks with mental disorders who misunderstand their own bodies.

Thanks you for your service you disgusting sub human faggot

>implying "he?" Actually fought for your rights and didn't just fight for Israeli supremacy

Why do you care? Let people whatever they want as long as it has no effect on your life. People hating on trannies are just as bad as people who praise them. They don't deserve either praise or damnation. Just let them be. Whether they are degenerate or model citizens should have no effect on your life.

The only way to "be" a woman is if you're chromosomes are XX.

These "transitional surgeries" and "sex change" operations are just cosmetic.

is right, a good 40-60% kill themselves after the transition.

Really, if you feel that your body isn't who you are, then you have a mental disorder.

Some things you here are "I've always been grossed out by my penis" and shit like that.

Tell me, if any guy ever said that, should he be considered psychologically healthy?

Well, there's my 2 cents on that, this place is a fucking nsa honeypot/datamining-for-profit operation that tracks your [ip] and your posts.
(If you don't believe me look at 2chan)

I'm out, fuck Hiroyuki.

I always knew she looked like a man.

According to your logic if my neighbor was raping children I shouldn't care.
>it doesn't affect you so why should I care? That's literally the philosophy of satanism

>People hating on trannies are just as bad as people who praise them
I've only talked with a few trannes, but each one maintained that they were under no obligation to every tell their partner that they were formerly male because that person might then leave them

I could not disagree more with that position and the willingness to conceal the truth it showed

Vet fag here. There is no way you can equate modern military actions by the US to fighting for freedom, unless this dudes talking to Iraqis or Afghans. In which case, they didn't even want it. This dude fought for his right to be a whiny faggot and throw his military service in everyone's face. Fuck this drama queen.

If someone is raping children it does not matter whether they are trannies or not.

I'm trans. Yeah it's a mental illness, I don't care. I'm pretty happy and I'm going to keep taking my hormones regardless of what anyone thinks.

Never change, Straya

I said according to that logic. He said if someone's doing something that doesn't affect you, then you shouldn't care.

Mental disorder and gay.

The suicide rates are way above people with other problems before and after surgery.

But mutilating the body is easier than healing the mind, so they fight to pretend the problem doesn't exist.

I rather someone hide that they are a tranny than hide that they have aids.

It's bad that they are hiding something. Straight people hide shit too. They hide their age and sexual history.

just dont pro-create, adopt children, or go half naked around in the streets advocating transgenderism, or insist that children should be taught about it, or insist that its a mental illness that should not be treated in severe cases, and we're fine.

There's gonna be more vets becoming trannys in the near future

breitbart.com/big-government/2016/09/18/navy-requires-sailors-undergo-transgender-education-july-2017/

> """""women""""" fighting

Man that must be rough fighting at your desk everyday :^)

They're just souls that have spent the most of their incarnations as one gender and are struggling with the task of being the other gender in order to balance their masculine and feminine energies. Nothing more.

QUESTION. Is it degenerate to fuck a ftm? How do I get him to stop being such a cock-hungry slut and become my nationalist bf?

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some of them are wonderful

A reading from the gospel of mental disorders:

Differential Diagnosis
Nonconfonnity to gender roles.

Gender dysphoria should be distinguished from simple nonconformity to stereotypical gender role behavior by the strong desire to be of an
other gender than the assigned one and by the extent and pervasiveness of gender-variant
activities and interests. The diagnosis is not meant to merely describe nonconformity to
stereotypical gender role behavior (e.g., "tomboyism" in girls, "girly-boy" behavior in
boys, occasional cross-dressing in adult men). Given the increased openness of atypical
gender expressions by individuals across the entire range of the transgender spectrum, it
is important that the clinical diagnosis be limited to those individuals whose distress and
impairment meet the specified criteria.

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>Anderson said that leadership will crack down on any mistreatment or harassment of transgender individuals.
>Secretary of Defense Ash Carter repealed the ban on transgenders serving in the military back in June.


I PUSH MY FINGERS INTO MY EEEEEEEYEES

Just become a tranny and be my nationalist BF.

Those fake tits are disgusting.

Technically, even if it is a legitimate disorder, it still can be classified as a mental disorder, like some sort of disparity between body and mind.

Honestly whether it's a condition people have no control over or just some fetish that's gotten out of hand, I don't care. I think people ought to be able to do anything to themselves that doesn't harm others. It's especially hard to care when they're .02% of the general population.

Even if it is a legitimate disorder, they still disgust me, like mentally handicapped people do

she's still one of the least gross tranny pornstars though

I masturbated plenty times to trannies.
I think it's just because I ren out of "shocking" material to fap to.
It went from normal,to mature,to granny,to fat,to pee,to scat,to abuse,to femdom,to tranny.
I should probably stop jacking off.

Well I'm pretty sure men and women have physically different brains, so I guess it's possible due to a birth defect to have the wires crossed or something, getting too much or too little testosterone or whatever causes it.

But that's it, just the binary, I don't believe in non-binary/multigendered/3rd gendered bull, that's just silly.

I did this. Eventually, I started getting mega hard to just lesbians making out. The cycle is complete.

Being the least gross tranny pornstar is like getting a silver medal in the special olympics: you're still a degenerate, and not even the best looking degenerate at that.

This shit is really distrspectful to the military. Does no one else see shit like this and say, how did we get here? Why is this applauded? Why do i want to kill myself when i see the world around me?

funny,I never masturbated to lesbian porn.EVER.

also:
>she

hueheuhe that's how I started when I was 9

it truly is a cycle

>she

I see them purely as sexual objects who can and should be used for sexual pleasure.

They still have to have a wang though. Wang is so much better than gross fake vagina.

Maybe you're just actually gay then.

i think there have actually been studies done in this regard which basically point to that being the case.

im not 100% sure though so

Intersex people do exist, as extremely rare as they are, and I think it's fair that they would get to choose their gender later on in childhood, but they are the exception, not the norm.

Most trans people are just guys who've been driven to hate their masculinity to the point of near-suicide: given an out they choose to symbolically kill themselves instead of literally. That's why nearly half of them kill themselves anyway later on.

Then you have degenerate faggots who take their faggotry to extremes because they're depraved.

Those latter two groups shouldn't be encouraged to 'transition'.

>It went from normal,to mature,to granny,to fat,to pee,to scat,to abuse,to femdom,to tranny.

Dude, you need help ASAP

>mfw the no fap challenge made me want to fuck a local tranny among some girls I know

nah

Leafs were a fucking mistake.

>Dude, you need help ASAP
I literally just need to get laid.

ThisYou can be whatever you want to be when you grow up literally under this principle. So, if it is not mental illness then yes, you can be a lion, polar bear, or a wolf if you choose- complete with body modifications and maybe even therapies that will be developed later on to increase your beastly instincts. Just start demanding rights to live in the wild, and at zoos alongside your chosen species.

>are they truly degenerate freaks with mental disorders
Yes.

>legitimate group of people who are just misunderstood?
What's there not to understand?

They are men who think they are women,literally fucked in the head.

Dat file name

Do that turd of a "human" really think it fought for any americans rights by invading iraq, a country with no capability to strike the US

>the wonders of kike subversion

It's really fucking funny the way it thinks that serving in the military somehow gives merit to it being fucked in head.

You fought for freedom?

Give me a fucking break,you didn't fight for jack shit,American freedom is in no way under foreign threat,you say you fight for freedom but then you vote for people like Clinton who wants to take said freedoms away.

Gas all trannies,Kek smite thee

This is what I've always said. We recognise gender dysphoria is a real mental disorder, yet we're not willing to treat it as such. Instead, we play into these people's delusions.

If we treated the mentally ill just like we did with trannies, we'd be encouraging the depressed to suicide and the schizophrenic to listen to the voices and act out their delusions.

This is fucked. I feel bad for these people because they will never get the adequate treatment they need.

So we should ignore mental illness and pretend it's not my problem?

It's absolutely mental illness, I can't fathom why people consider it OK to want to biologically be a different gender.

Doesn't transgender-ism itself display sexism? Saying I want to be X because I don't feel like Y? Are they saying that men and women have different emotions or have some type of characteristic that the other doesnt have other than a biological/physiological difference? Fucking hypocritical if you ask me.

i feel more for the future generations. illness or not, it is her/him/its own fault, and the fault of the mass-media and government. but for children and youths to be encouraged to not just believe that transgenderism is healthy, but to be encouraged to change themselves is a blight upon humanity.

>tranny came that late in the cycle
Interesting

Should be treated and classified as a mental illness BUT regarded as completely normal and common. Hopefully that would ease the tension accompanied with the issue.

Make mental illness more aware, people are more fucked up than we think. Normal is not normal at all now adays. There's nothing wrong with being mentally ill but that doesn't mean you should go untreated or be satisfied with your illness.

Our military becomes more and more laughable each passing day.

>The only way to "be" a woman is if you're chromosomes are XX.
This definition is of limited practical use. Sure, it works for 99% of cases, but that doesn't make it objective truth. I'd say it makes more sense to say you're a woman if you have a female reproductive system.

>is right, a good 40-60% kill themselves after the transition.
False, the overall suicide ATTEMPT rate (including both pre- and post-transition) for trannies is around 40%. And generally it's actually lower after transition.


Then just revise it to "let people live their life as long as they're not harming innocents".

We definitely don't pretend the problem doesn't exist, that's why you spend your life on hormone medication. Fixing the brain is pretty much beyond our technology at this point.

I'd say children SHOULD be taught about it, in a neutral way, so they know trannies exist and that it is a thing, but without making them view it as normal. Just have it be another disorder alongside schizophrenia, autism, etc.

So far a psychological treatment for GID hasn't been found, pimozide, talk therapy, have all turned out to be dead ends. The thread yesterday (that unfortunately didn't get much attention) did seem to have some decent new ideas. But if the mainstream theories are correct, really the only way to fix their brains is through surgery, which can't be done safely at this point.

It's sexist in the literal sense, as in acknowleding a difference between males and females, but it's not "sexist" in the same way it's commonly used, i.e. guys aren't pushed into transitioning just because they like dolls and dresses. Gender dysphoria is based more on fundamental biological traits, like penis/vagina and boobs.

Studies have shown exactly the opposite. Trannies have the brains of the gender they were born as... and still are.

Don't buy the bullshit.

Too late.

Worst part is I'm taking this class about Human Sexuality and they are going to teach us about transgenderism and all that shit. I'm scared to have to participate in something that is bullshit.

If you think that changing gender would solve all your problems you are delusional. Most trannies have severe depression, insecure or out right crazy.
Just look at chris-chan ffs.

I know how you feel user, my anthropology class is going to be discussing this topic for some reason. The lesson plan is titled "why transgenderism isn't a mental illness."

How does it not affect me when these fruitloops force me to pay for it? Here in sweden a lot of retards get operation for stuff they don't need. Like gastric bypass for lazy fatass or thousand upon thousand of therapy hours for trannies that kill themselves anyway

sven, the guy you are replying to is arguing for your point. its the other guy who is saying ''mind your own buisness.''

No different than any other treatment. I suppose those born with physical disabilities should an hero at birth so they don't become a burden on people like you?

>I fought for your right to hate me
>therefore you are not allowed to hate me

Leftist logic

Hell, a lot of people fought for my rights. Does that mean I have to love all of them? Some of them are fucking cunts.

You don't have to love them, just acknowledge that they can contribute to this country's greatness like anyone else.

kill it with fire