Is she right?

16 year-olds are impulsive, muh-feelsy and retarded. Allowing them to vote is even more retarded.

Driving a car is not hard. You just learn to do it, then you do it. I can make the same argument with walking in public. "13 year olds do it all the time".

Raise the voting age to 20. Only people who likely has had any type of job or higher education should have the right to vote.

16 year olds can be taxed..

This is the correct answer. Ban all welfare recipients too, it's a conflict of interest.

>Only tax payers should be allowed to vote.
This.

Sure, but they have to lower age of consent nationally to 16 as well

You idiots do know that Gen Z is one of the most conservative groups since the silent generation, right?

Honestly, if 14-17 year old were allows to vote, Trump would win in a landslide.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>This right fucking here

No fuck that, high school kids will go for the best goy since the indoctrination is strongest there.

No.

Teens at that age either mimic their parents or have exact opposite views of their parents. There's no rational.
>Source: was edgy liberal for a short period

True which is why they shouldnt be allowed to drive either

No. Voting age should be 30+ landowners only. Exceptions can be made for active duty or other civil service.

Agreed. We don't let children vote for the same reason, so we shouldn't let under 25s vote either.

The reason why she wants people under 18 to vote is the same I want only people over 30 and with a family to vote.

Increase votes to you side.

I don't trust my 16 year old self to vote desu.

I get behind this argument.

And since taxing is unethical and essentially theft, no one should pay taxes.

No one should vote then because we abolished the state.

>statists irrevocably btfo

voting age should be raised to 21 and there should be a test

(((((stein)))))

>he believed that meme article posted a few times on Cred Forums

The younger you are the more liberal you are, of course that also means the more likely you are to make mistakes that you will end up regretting later in life when you finally "grow up".

Trump is going to win anyway. No reason to make the system objectively worse just so that one election can be slightly easier to win. Retarded logic.

They can do many things but society is not structured to prepare 16-year olds for voting.

The only reason to lower the voting age is to be able to harvest votes from easily manipulated naive kids who live under the protection of their parents and don't know shit about the real world.

What the fuck does learning to drive a car have to do with being eligible to vote? Christ the old "if they're old enough to marry, join the Army, pay taxes blah blah" at least makes some sense - though the obvious answer is that voting eligibility should thus be tied to military service/marriage/paying taxes rather than age - but this makes no goddamned sense.

She wouldn't be advocating for that if that demographic wasn't somewhat politically aligned with her.

The argument is irrelevant. All she wants is more votes.

Better idea.
Make voting rights only apply to people who pay more into the government than they take out of it in services.

Why bother with an age restriction at all?

16 year olds still have immature, impulsive brains. They may be capable of driving, but they can't handle politics. Only an idiot like Stein could seriously liken them together - but I suspect that she knows this full well herself, and just wants to benefit from the votes of young, impressionable voters that easily fall for memes like "save the nature"

She is unhinged and needs to come down to reality and understand how retarded humans are at 16 let alone 18

no

this is what kikes want, easily manipulable civilians

au contraire, civilians should pass exams to be able to vote, which implies understanding what are the candidates proposals, what each party stands for, and a bit of HISTORY so that it doenst repeat itself

this and seriously most highschooler are smarter than ur average 6000000 lb 40 year old walmart shitter

>Only tax payers should be allowed to live.
Fixed

Then the age for the draft ought to be 21 as well. The only reason we lowered it in the first place is because the kids sent to vietnam couldn't vote.

The more stupid, uninformed people you allow to vote, the more the democrats win.

Voting right should be rised to 25 and for people who've been employed and tax contributors for at least 2 years.

If you're 25+ but jobless you should keep your retarded mouth shut and complete your university or find a job

As I get older and gain more political knowledge it makes me want to raise the voting age even more.

Think about yourself just 5 years ago, were you as qualified to vote as you are today? Probably not.

Fuck teenagers.

No she's not. Simply because 16 is a retarded age . Remember your teen years? Yeah, there need to be voting reforms . But it's not difficult. How about be a u.s. citizen, be employed, have a car, rent or own a house ' age of 25 .

I learned to drive car when I was 6 years old.
I am still learning to counter all the possible threats while driving.

Democracy is for infidels

Candidates should be memed into power by the lord Kek.

Just like I memed these digits onto my post.

This.

They're still not completely committed to conservatism yet. Once they reach their pinnacle age, they will be so conservative it would be borderline confederate.

>not "lowering the drinking age to 16"
progressive my arse

The should change voting rights back to how they were meant to be. Only white men who own land can vote.

If 3-year-olds can learn to shit in the potty, they can also learn to participate in civic life by lowering the voting age from 16 to 3.
-Dr. Jill Stein, 2020

men

Exactly what I've been saying all along. For example, car insurance rates don't lower until 25 because that's when you're less of a liability due to having full mental development.

Her argument is so stupid too. Humans stop being completely incompetent and 100% dependent on their parents around like age 4. What's she gonna say next, "If kids 13 and older can be trusted to go on Club Penguin without a parents permission, why not help elect our nations leaders?"

>If they can learn to drive they can vote
>If they can enter high school they can vote
>If they are smart enough to get to the 8th grade, they can vote
>If they can play on the playground, they can make a play in politics.
>If they learn basic math, they can add up who they should vote for
>If they can learn their ABC's, they can V-O-T-E
>If they can say mama, they can vote

Taxes used to be by land, now the nature of taxation has changed as well as the makeup of urban/rural and owner/renters of the population, I don't see the need to own land, paying taxes is sufficient a requirement.

>he believed this meme

most 16yo would vote for Trump you stupid old heb.

Nixon and Goldwater had massive youth support. Even Hillary supported him.

We can have a generation of young conservatives again.

underage detected

come back when you can vote, kid

>everyone should vote!
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE WE'RE TAKING ALL YOUR RIGHTS AWAY FUCK YOU

WOMEN TO THE KITCHEN
SLAVES TO AFRICA
WHITE PROPERTY OWNING MALES

Not at all. We already have it bad. Who the fuck cares about politics at 16? I was playing video games and getting laid. If I did "care" I would have probably fallen for the dumb MSM shit though.

Hillary has the strongest support and trump has the lowest support of the millenial teen/twenty-something generation. i'm sorry, senpai.

We are the minority.

>only niggers and jews should be allowed to vote

fixed

Yes, you shouldn't be allowed to drive a car or vote until you're 21. Instead of "making it fair by increasing the draft" just remove the draft, forcing people to fight is the opposite of freedom.

>(((Jill Stein)))

Why not? It all went to shit when we allowed women and niggers to vote.

Only white landowners should be able to vote.

But someone has to vote democrat

Fuck no.

16 year olds are retarded as fuck.

Even when I was 16 and was considered more mature then my peers I was still dumb as fuck.

Hell 18 you are dumb as fuck. Our society is coddling "young adults" into their mid to late 20s now. Voting age should be 30 honestly it has gotten so bad.

The main reason I say this is because until you live on your own and you pay taxes you have no right to say where the honey pot goes and how much should be in it.

No, I'm 21 and even at my age 16 year olds come across as morons.
>they are dependent on adults still, their brains still have a significant amount of development left, many are finishing up puberty, so basically they are to be looked after and guided not given command of the nation.

General rule teenagers are inexperienced idiots, I know exceptions exist.

>Implying 16 year olds should be able to drive a car.
>((Stein)) just wants stupid young voters.

SPBP

If anything, the voting age should be raised to 25 or 30, and also people should be required to own land in order to vote on ANY tax issues.

Leftards have been lowering the voting age plenty of times already. They know youngsters are easier to manipulate into believing their social equality bullshit.

desu you guys this is a shit method, there's 18 year olds more mature than 25 year olds, and most 25 year olds are not that "mature"

I would not set an arbitrary age limit like the state does, trying to get an age where the majority of people are "responsible"

if you really wanna restrict voters just make a test mandatory, like the exam we do to be able to apply to uni

Fuck no.

Young people are idiots. The voting age should be raised.

You are actually retarded until your mid 20s. We need to raise the. Voting age after the boomers die.

Absolutely not.

16 year olds are nearly incapable of independent informed decisions. This would lead to massive attempted meddling through media and parenting. Probably at the school level too.

>16 aware enough to vote
>16 not aware enough to consent
16 year old sex when?

So they get to vote, but only if a parent or registered voter over the age of 18 is present with them in the voting booth?

Should be raised to 25 or higher.

No.

>You idiots do know that Gen Z is one of the most conservative groups since the silent generation, right?
Any articles or polling to support this? It's the first I've heard it.

16-year-olds can't learn to drive a car. They're fucking idiots. They just have to drive because everything in America is really far away from everything else.

No, it should be raised to 25. So should driving.

Leftists want the voting age lowered because only children tend to agree with their retarded views. Bernie Kike wanted to voting age lowered to 17

>test
I like it

no, fuck this commie cunt. I didn't get to vote at 16, why the fuck should a bunch of entitled whiny nu male hipster faggots get that right?

Should be requirements to vote

>21
>not of welfare/government aid
>no criminal convictions (misdemeanor or felony)
>must have photo ID

Goldwater was absolutely BTFO

I graduated high school last year but was put into a freshmen art class because lolmissingcredits. Tehy talked about politics a lot and the Trump love is real.

Even more shocking is it was a liberal part of Long Island.

Let's just legalize weed already and get all these fucking hippies out of politics.

This right here. The Z's are true patriots and know the difference between right and wrong

just because something would work in your favor one time does not mean it's a good idea or that it'll ever work for you again

It's perfectly legal, user.

Hmm.. I wonder why democrats want less mentally developed, easier to manipulate, more easily influencable people voting.

They're not the best drivers, but they do well enough. I never got into an accident when I was just starting out on the road.

This. Holy shit looking back at things I did and said and thought when I was in my teens is embarrassing

He lost the election but won the party. Republicans weren't conservatives until he ran. We would never have a conservative movement without him.

>voting is just a gibs me dat
Pay taxes and you get a vote.

>16
>not 12

stay jelly

There is a difference between "learning to do thing" and "actually doing thing." I'm also not sure what the connection between driving a car and voting is, if they can't even legally drink or have sex at 16 I don't see why they would be allowed to vote.

No.

Driving a car (specially automatic shifts like in America) is very very very easy, while critical thinking and Judgement to choose a political candidate can be extremely difficult

If 12 year old girls are capable of getting pregnant, they can also give consent by lowering the age of consent from 18 to 12.

>age where school is only life experience
>most people go to public schools

This will make education/indoctrination more influential for election outcomes.

>My 16 year old self shilled for Obama
>My 16 year old self would be shilling for Hillary
>I would have been un-ironically using "DRUMPF"

Oh god please don't let the 16 year old dumb asses vote.

This

But that can't be true when there's swaths of uninformed stupid people voting for Trump.

Then no one on Cred Forums would be able to vote.

She's not a Democrat, she's the Green Party candidate for President, they're left of the Democrats.

Not in California. No guns or girls for me :^(

This is retarded and wrong.

>B-but Trump will win!!1!

How long until the shoe is on the other foot?

Snoop Dog runs for president and wins next cycle.

Why are we allowing 16 year olds to drive again?

>drinking age 16
>progress

Pick one.

the democracy in crisis is in part to old people who cant think right anymore getting to vote for muh jeebus and all that crap

vote age should be 16-45 after that you're getting senile

At 16 you have only experianced a maximum of 4 elections. We dont teach kids anything about politics and they dont watch the news, so you average 16 year old has paid attention to a single election maybe two if they are smart and followed politics at a young age.

Its simply not enough experiance to make an informed decision.

make it one vote per household too

No 18 should be the age for voting, drinking and driving a car. 16 year olds arent smart enough for this shit

>Green
Nothing good can come from this.

Let's see... who do young people with their naive little minds mostly vote? "Best argument against democracy is 5 minutes with the average voter." You need 10s with a kid.

Who's pushing this change to lower the voting age...? HMMMMMMMM.....?

The flaw in her reasoning is that it's the same skill set. It's not that teenagers aren't capable of rational thought, but rather that they're more emotional and gullible.

Driving affects them, voting affects everyone around them.
Driving doesn't require life experience, voting does.

Jill, 3-year old kids are capable driving bicycles and participate in civic life. Why are they denied to vote?

found the high school freshmen. Come back when you actually remember 9/11 kiddos

This

I would be willing to raise it up to 25 now that I remember my 18 year old self shilling for Obama because McCain looked as if he could die at any second and make Palin President

They still need to wait until they are 18. Wait until more of them get redpilled.

wrong post number,

I have an improvement on Jill's plan
she wants to make driving age=voting age

let's do that and THEN introduce mandatory pic related

>mfw nobody votes anymore

(((she))) is not a dem.

>You idiots do know that Gen Z is one of the most conservative groups since the silent generation, right?
I'm amazed that idiots like you actually believe this. You do realize you're talking about the people who commonly have divorced parents, commonly are raised by only a single parent and have been raised on leftist kike media since their birth?

16 year olds have been allowed to vote in my country for a few years now. bad fucking idea, 16 year olds are plain fucking stupid by nature. i can tell, I was 16 myself once

The voting age should be much higher

Like 25-30

To vote, you should be assumed to have or have had a real interaction with property and taxes and either you or your age cohort are child rearing (to instill a sense of future-mindedness and family consideration)

>there's 18 year olds more mature than 25 year olds
A tiny tiny minority are. The vast majority are bumbling retards

Maybe we should try down to age 13, but only for school board elections. See how that goes.

Teenagers should not be allowed to participate unsupervised in society in general. They are children and their brain is fucking fried with hormones. It is literally impossible for them to make a rational choice.

Yeah, not quite, I'm Gen Z (18) and everyone I know is either hyper-liberal, or hyper-racist. It's one or the other, the only ones in the middle are those who don't actually pay attention to politics in any way, shape or form, and they don't matter anyway, because they don't vote. The two sides are predictably becoming more and more polarized, and we're the first generation to be that way naturally. Millenials fucking suck and they're all losers with no jobs, or shitty jobs. Boomers fucking suck too for more reasons than I have space to list, so I won't even bother, everyone hates them anyway. Anything before boomers are okay, but just don't care enough, and they raised boomers, so they fucking suck too.

There is a high probability of tensions rising enough to cause serious conflict once my generation gets more power, which we're already gaining through voting, even if a lot of us don't vote.

OR you know raise driving age to 18.

If 16yr olds can drive a car, why not a Humvee in the deserts of Syria fighting for ZOG?
t.Stein

>people who cannot group together and violently overthrow a government should be allowed to vote
lmao.
honestly this is really the only qualification.
this is basic stuff goyim.

Gen Z doesn't actually know that they are conservative though because they are told that "socialism is about helping da poor".

You make a test and sooner or later some fuckwit comes along talking about cultural bias and how idiots should be allowed to vote with lower scores.

It needs to be black and white.

Idealistically, this is a good idea. But idealism seldom translates well to reality.

Lmao learning to drive is such a low standard and yet millennials are terrified of it. My younger brother didn't get a license until 22

If you are gen Z then you can't be 18. Gen Z means born at or past 2001.

I came here to say exactly this.

>3-year old kids are capable driving bicycles
You lie

16 year also cause more car accidents.
Also by her logic a 16 year old should also be allowed to drink and smoke.

You act like an 18 year old has experienced more elections

Poland, do you really thin that I am going to be senile next summer?
Poland, why do you think our presidential candidates in Estonia have to be at least 40 years old? Because they turn senile when their first term ends?

how can 16 year olds lower the voting age? i believe it is only the legislative body who can do such things. does this woman not into grammar?

There's no precise date, but it's generally accepted to be between the mid-1990's and early 2000's. I was born in 1997.

Sure. Let's force them into armed conflict for the Jewish overlords too.

>A child dependent on their parents should decide how mommy and daddy's taxes are spent.

100% this. Either that or you have to provide so many hours a year of volunteer service.

Pretty sure its easier to learn how pull some levers, turn a wheel and memorize some signs then to gather a complete political palette at that age

Fuck you paco, everytime you get the opportunity to do something cool, you fuck up and do it wrong.

no. she just wants some fresh, soft, hyper-sensitive minds to pander to.

Should go even further. Only married couples can vote, and only after their first child. Only they can be trusted to care about problems beyond their own death.

Donald trump stream: youtube.com/watch?v=9GebFsDNpH0

if they can vote they should also be able to drink, drug, abort and sell their bodies too

What was the saying the South Africans had in regards to this kind of system that we had only just recently implemented?

One Man, One Vote, One Time.

Federal service when?

FUCKING THIS
>Who promised me more gibs?
>Who threatened to take away my gibs?
Looks like Tyrone is voting blue again folks.

Came here to make this exact post

If 16 year olds can drive a car and vote to decidethe future of an enture country then they are old enough to consent to sex.

Oh wait what? Liberals dont want that? Hey cant consent to sex but should be allowed to control the countries future anyway? Ok........

no, the voting age should be raised to 25.
You aren't wise enough to vote on key political issues until at least that age.

>lowering.

Fuck. I was hoping they raised the voting age to 21. Most people under 21 are fucking children in mentality.

Shit... most are mental midgets until 25.

Driving affects everyone on the road. If anything the driving age should be raised to 18.

If they can vote, they better be getting gun right s too

How about
>18 year olds can join the armed forces, lower the legal drinking age and the minimum age to buy a handgun to 18
But I guess that would be asking too much.

If 12 year olds can learn to use a shovel, then they can also learn to participate in the labor force by lowering the working age from 18 to 12.

I thought I was hot shit after graduating from college and becoming a $90K salaryman at age 22, but I was fucking wrong. I am more level-headed and rational at age 26

Fucking fake, that pic is of a 4yo girl and she isn't pregnant.

Trust me, I'm an expert on this.

Cred Forums probably has some of the oldest anons on this site with a few niche board exceptions.

I am 32 and posting from my office. I doubt I am alone according to some other threads I have read.

>Implying 18 year olds are smart.

They thought Bernie was the Savior of mankind and not some kike deceiver remember?

Make voting age 25 desu. Life experience puts things in perspective.

There you have it, dubs don't lie folks

>If they can vote, they better be getting gun right s too
If they get rights to guns, they better be getting rights to my dick too

To be able to vote you must own land and a gun.

There I solved democracy thank me later my lads.

I like it, but would age of enlistment into the military change or stay at 18?
then you could die for your country yet not have a say in its affairs?
it should be everything you've said, but with exceptions of those in the military who are 18+ to vote

Enjoying your Scottish golf course Mr. Trump?

youtube.com/watch?v=clSpKsMOaXE

youtube.com/watch?v=vAcWwgKLlTk

No, I don't.

>offer a $10 giftcard to hot topic to vote for you
>Anonymous wins the election by a landsilde!

really make me ponder

>you're not old enough to drink beer or have cigarettes
>you're old enough to decide the fate of a nation of 320,000,000 people with the 2nd largest nuclear arsenal in the world

Fpbp

>25
>life experience

make voting age 40 lads

underrated post

as usually, greens are 180' wrong

>implying there wasn't invisible rails in the ground

NO.

Raise the age of voting up to 25.

And the age of driving, purchasing alcohol and consent while we're at it.

Either that, or every voter has to pass a ten page, two hour long civics test before they get on the register.

Agreed. If they can vote they should also be able to take the dick from older gentlemen

No, brother. They expect one of us in the wreckage!

>No driving until age 25
>Insurance rates plummet

I support this.

>16 year olds
>learning anything

(((stein)))

most teenagers can't even figure out how to get through school why should we trust them to vote?

16 year olds are fucking terrible at driving cars though

that's why their insurance is so high and goes down when they turn 25

Driving a car and understanding politics are two very different things. One requires basic motor skills and hand-eye coordination, the other requires a lot of knowledge and experience that someone who's lived with their parents for their entire life won't have.

The age of legal adulthood (and thus voting/drinking/joining the army/etc.) should be increased to 25, since that's approximately when the human brain finishes maturing.

Only 25+ year old U.S born people who have been on no public assitance for 8 years should be allowed to vote. Exceptions made for veterans or active duty military, police

>consent
user we already have enough false rape charges, we don't need to give them another reason to scream rape

At 16, all your political beliefs are actually your parents beliefs.

/thread

This except misdemeanors are ok

Honestly Voting age should be 21+
People cant drink till they are 21 why can they make decisions for the rest of the country.

If 21+ most college libs wouldnt be eligible to vote. Most people arent Mature enough to Vote by that age anyways.
Also only 22 here, so fuck em

No.
If anything, voting age should be increased.
21 years old would be ideal, and I say this a 20 year old girl.
This is obviously an attempt at making ignorant teens to vote for them because they are far more gullible.

> Implying there were no kikes pulling invisible strings

Oh boy here come the closet pedophiles

Only racially aware White males should be able to vote. And only those who are United States citizens, and not illegal immigrants, such as those voting in liberal-communist California

It should be raised to 21

t. 19 year old

or in many cases, the teacher's beliefs

which would work out so well for marxists

leftards want the voting age lowered because kids are more left-wing in their youth, and then become right-wing as they grow up and realize how badly they're being fucked

Since there's always more kids than adults, it's just math. They're trying to ensure permanent leftard rule.

>rides on the fucking lawn

I don't get what's the deal with that, we have standard govt tests for many things like applying to university and driving, why don't they make a simple exam that tests your maturity and intelligence, then you get a "voter card" or whatever and you can vote the rest of your life.

Would it be "ableist" or something to restrict retards and manchildren from voting? don't we want to have the best calling the shots? For me it is a natural consecuence of the evolution of state control to have something like this, but the lefties are cherrypicking what they like and is pc from what isn't.

>inb4 its not democracy if only 20% of the people vote

isn't that how they did it in ancient greece? but good riddance anyway, fuck democracy

How about just making 17 or some age the official age of adulthood
- vote if you like
- buy and carry a gun if you like
- drive a car if you like
- buy smokes if you like
- buy booze if you like
- join the military if you like
- get married if you like
- your parents no longer have any obligation to feed you or put a roof over your head

My grandad made me learn to drive a carat 13 and a tractor at 12.

Should I have been allowed to vote. Also "driving" an automatic isn't driving

God no she is so incredibly wrong. Please don't let these retarded fucks vote. All they want is free shit and the government to handhald them and ban everything that is scary.

(((Stein)))

Why wouldn't 8-year-olds be allowed to vote? If they can read, they can vote.

>Carat
How the fuck did it turn car into fucking carat

Obviously she would say this as her entire voter base is immature teenagers who have never paid income tax.

I was a lefty too when I was a teen and become right wing in my early twenties and by the time I was 25 I was far right.

Not even the least bit, it should be raised to 21 again.

Thissssss

So with that being said, tits?

16 is too young to be driving as it is. I don't want those beasts deciding who runs our government.

> parks car on the lawn

This desu. I honestly almost walked out of the room when Elizabeth May proposed lowering the voting age to 16.

I'll modify this a bit britbro

21+ Taxpayers and people who have not received any government handouts since the last election cycle.

if 12 years old can learn about periods and masturbation they should be able to participate in sexual life by lowering the consent age from 18 to 12

We should raise the voting age to 25 desu

Honestly, why can't 1 year old's be allowed to vote? If they can walk, they can vote.

If 16 year olds can learn to drive a car, then they can also learn to participate in consensual sex, buying and consuming alcohol and the draft.

Tax payers should only be allowed to vote. Scratch that , people who get INCOME TAXED should vote. None of this le XD I pay the sales tax on my Frappuccino .

I got the permit to drive motorcycle when turned 16. Had 3 mild crashes in 2 years.

This just reminds me of the $15/hr thing or Canadian free weed, so I hope (((Stein))) keeps pushing it because you always end up with something you didn't anticipate

>Demand $15/hr
>Get replaced with machines
>Offer free weed
>Compromise with fucking dogs
>Demand the voting age be lowered to 16
>It's put up to 25 and women get the vote taken away from them

I can't wait.

But there's nothing wrong with that

I'm listening.

>land
i think you meant to say niggers

/thread

Abolish universal suffrage only those who contribute are allowed a say ie taxpayers and volunteers.

Truth.

Sheltered children have no right to say what should or shouldn't be done with national policy. Their only frame of reference is CURRENT YEAR MAN and Hollywood liberal bullshit.

Until they are exposed to the horrors of degenerate American society- I.e. The vibrant diversity that is our greatest strength - they have no right to vote whatsoever.

Eat fucking shit. I was born new years 1997 and im not fucking gen z

If 14 year olds can take selfies, then they can also learn to participate in the porn industry by lowering the working age from 18 to 14.

If a 16 year old can drive
Why not lower drinking age and having sex at 16

I would love to go voting with a 16 year old then get her drunk and then fuck her without going to jail for fucking an underage girl (under 18)

Voting age should be 21 2bh
Modern society creates 18 year old children who cant even remember their social security number or know how to fill out a tax return.

BAHAHAHAHAHAHA
As someone who was recently 16 (3 years ago) if I could have voted I'd be regretting it by now.

Even just requiring voters to show legit photo ID at the polling station would be a step forwards here in Blighty.

But, yeah, a mandatory, non-school curriculum citizen test for registering would be fine.

If kids were allowed to vote, PewDiePie could come here and say he is running for President and probably win in a landslide.

no, driving doesn't make you wise enough to decide the future of the country

driving is a privilege

>8 retweets
>16 likes

>implying that would be bad

#PEWDZ5PREZI

Fuck no.

Voting age should rise if anything as people have gotten more immature over the years.

>PewDiePie
No it would be Justin Bieber, Taylor Swift and Robert Downey Jnr who would steal the Presidency.

No. This is a terrible fucking idea. Someone sage her campaign.

depending on who you ask you are, retard. the "generation" meme is based on arbitrary dates

People who should NOT be allowed to vote...

>Children (I.E 16yr olds)
>People who combined income live below the poverty line
>Women
>Welfare Recipients

If 18 year olds can go fight and die in a war, they should be allowed to drink alcohol. The drinking age should be lowered from 21 to 18.

>Welfare Recipients
The funny thing would be that half of Cred Forums wouldn't be able to vote.

One household one vote

I wouldn't let my 16 years old "me" vote, hell not even my 18, and i wasn't even brainwashed.

>>Children (I.E 16yr olds)
>People who combined income live below the poverty line
>Women
>Welfare Recipients

Registered Democrats
Non STEM Degree holders
College Professors
Anyone with Red, Orange, or Blue dyed hair
People with more than one piercing
Anyone with a face or neck tattoo

By that logic just about anyone out of toddler years should be allowed to vote.
Hint: Everyone pays sales tax

No 16 year olds shouldn't be allowed to drive

voting age should be 25 or even higher
why do people expect that children ("""""""young adults"""""""""") know anything about poltics?

>t. Cred Forumssters who were liberals by the time they were 16 years old and don't have faith in Gen Z
18 is good enough though, no need to lower or raise it. People on welfare should not be allowed to vote though.

Nope. Teenager detected

She's wrong simply because 16-year-olds shouldn't be allowed to drive.

We need less retards voting not more

18 is terrible.
The worst mistake the UK ever made was lowering the voting age to 18.
That and universal suffrage over household suffrage.

They are openly boasting about their control over our children

No, here in Brazil, 16 years old can vote, it just means more votes for the commies, they should raise it to 30+

this

yes let them vote while the conditioning is fresh in their minds, get them partisan early.

>People on welfare should not be allowed to vote though.
but then what is the point of inviting a bunch of illegal immigrants and niggers to the country

Fuck no. Young people are dumb as shit. I would say raise it from 18 to 21 but honestly if you can get drafted you better be able to vote.

I think the fact that I can die for my country and not drink at 18 is more pressing

I disagree. People should be handed personal responsibility in steps before they're to take responsibility for others via voting and family. It shouldn't all be heaped on them at once.

Not every state has sales taxes friendo.

Should a child have a say in the household budget just because their parents have authority over them? :^)

If some sixteen year old educates himself and wants to vote then why not? It's not like most of the fucktards will want to anyway

I say some kind of IQ test decides whether you vote or not, keep out idiots of all ages

Most of yours fall under 'No Women'

That's not how aging works. You can't remember life experiences you never had, no matter how old you become.

Age 25.
Legal Citizens only.
Proof of paying Taxes logged for all years from age 18 forward (or immigration forward) in good standing.
Voter ID made required in all states as a Federal Law.
Age 18 forward can vote IF a current member of the armed forces with boot camp completed OR having been honorably discharged if below age 25.

No exceptions for law enforcement members because it opens a can of worms for fire fighting and medical staff. Create an exception for one area of society support, you have to consider all of them.

16 years old driving is a bad thing.

should be 20 years old.

Keep it at 18 but introduce a test to prove they're educated enough on the issues to be put on the register

16 year olds should be allowed to get drunk too.

The good ol' Escobar trick works every time except when it doesn't

No raise the voting age to 25 for anyone who isn't in the military. And if u want welfare, food stamps, or other entitlements, you forfeit your right to vote.

raise it to 21 with the exception of military?

Remove voting.

If you want a change in government, you should be willing to put your life on the line.
Democracy gives IDIOTS the illusion that anyone trying to change the government outside the "rules" is inherently "wrong", which is bullshit.

Depending on the state might be legal.

>raise it to 21 with the exception of military?
Military exception should only apply to Federal elections, not local ones.

These retards would vote for Kanye or a Kardashiwhore in a heartbeat.

She's left

lol no, trump has the lowest support among the age group 18-35. expect younger people to be even more blue pilled

I'm 19, and the frosh in high school when I was entering college were hardcore racists. My friend on the track team told me how the Mexican and white boys would talk shit about niggers all the time.

Our generation would have none of that.

Basic level alertness, communication, and reflexes =/= critically thinking to reach a sound political stance to decide on a presidential candidate that most closely represents it

My uncle is a mechanic. He's told me in the past few years the majority of vehicle repairs he handles now are from people who get in accidents while using their phone, and the vast majority of these are 16-18 year olds. Fact is vehicles are deadly weapons.

You know those texting and driving commercials? The ones primarily targeted toward teens? They exist for a reason, and it's because drunk driving deaths is second place now to idiots texting while driving. A lot of teenagers are irresponsible idiots. If they can't handle the responsibility of driving a car they shouldn't be able to make a major decision like electing government officials.

Then they can vote on the state elections.
Not federal.

Thats what you think faggot.

if anything, voting age should be raised to like 25 or something along those lines.
I'd bet over 50% of under 20's just vote on the 2 articles they read on cosmopolitan or some other tabloid trash.

good one

No. Thank goodness she's not with Hillary. Fuck that delusional woman.

it should be 16. 14 to drive a tractor. Why are you such a pussy. Notice how as time goes on more and more laws are made to restrict older and older people. Is this creating man children or is it the result of man children?

If 16 year olds can learn to drive they can also take a dick

>tax is theft

Kek get a load of this fucking retard.

He's a german cuck, don't listen to him. They don't understand why a 12 year old can get a hunting license, some states allow monitoring work for 14 year olds, and why working on a farm and driving industrial equipment at 14 is a thing.

someone post the image that some retarded 15 year old made about how a being taxed by the government is the same as being mugged at gunpoint on the street

Lefties often want to lower the voting age because it would benefit them a lot more than the righties. Young people overwhelmingly vote to the left.

>goyim if teenagers can do something less difficult than preparing a meal, they should be targets for political persuasion instead of focusing on being young

t. shekelstein

No restrict voting to anyone who has a vagina, ever had a vagina, isn't white, isn't a land owner, and isn't below the age of 18.
Also nobody who cut their penis off is allowed to vote either.

We could also lower the age of consent then

She's inadvertently advocating for needing an ID to vote

also jews are huge advocates of child labor. the next rung on the ladder

It makes sense because the left is super fucking naive, just like underage children. I don't really support anyone desu, I'm a bit of a socialist shill because it works so well in Norgay and it makes literally no difference who wins the elction because everyone basically agrees on all the important issues.

>tfw my parents never owned a house

What are you talking about? i'm 19 and everyone i knew wanted to drive as soon as they were 18.
I live in commiefornia though so a lot of people don't want to deal with the whole process you have to go through. It takes about a year to get it.

>letting Jewish bankers and Chinese people be the only voting demographic

No... also, people who never had a job or paid income or property taxes, should not be allowed to vote... they're too ignorant and liberally programmed to make uninformed decisions... As kids transition from dependence to independence, they fear the loss of their parental support, and seek to replace it with another supporting framework... Grown ups take care of their own shit. They don't need to be cradled... liberals want to exploit the fear of kids as they transition to independence...

Fuck no! She is definitely wrong. Sixteen year olds are way too inexperienced to be given the right to vote.

Libtards only favour lowering the voting age because they know it'll serve them best, young ppl tend to vote with a more liberal mindset. As the saying goes: the older you get the more conservative you become, there's a reason for this, you gain more life experience over time and can vote in a more measured way.

16 year olds just want to bang Stacy or Chad, get away with having a few sneaky beers and make it to the end of secondary school.

Those wouldn't have been a problem if only home owners could vote to begin with.

26 for males and no vote for women.

People born in the mid 90s or earlier are millennials.

Fucking ridiculous idea, the majority of 16-18 year olds are fucking retards who care more about the Kardashians and get their political information from BuzzFeed. At least the boys would vote for right wing parties I guess.

t. someone who recently turned 18

You can already work at 14 years old.

If 6 weeks old are able to accomplish the unimaginable by developing a brain, they can also learn to participate in civic duty by lowering the voting age from 18 years to 42 days

Jill Stein is a fucking genius

Apparently they can't learn that robbing a shop with a replica gun might get them shot so...

>have cigarettes
Most states allow you to smoke at 18

Makes sense , you can't buy smokes unless your 21 in California , and you can't rent a car until you're 25 but your opinion on who the next leader of our country ? oh that's cool 18 y/o is fine

Ehm

Sauce?

I pay good pepes

>and you can't rent a car until you're 25
What? since when? Can I buy a car. Fuck this state