MARKET WATCH THREAD: DB Struggling

is it just me i see no green candles

-1.2

Another one of the biggest banks in Germany, Commerzbank:

It's clear that Germany's shit the bed. Completely.

If db fails or is bailed out what are the effects in US?

DNB here. We're positioned for your demise. We know Nordea is, also.

It was nice knowing you.

Ignore FXZpWNUK for the rest of this thread. He is a socialist troll. Do not respond to him.

11.21 now. She's steadily sinking.

The EU is dead Now.

youtube.com/watch?v=5l4OEJ38aLY

Innawoods

>going up again
Fucking jews ruining our fun`

theres a buy

Have your coffee and your smoke you grumpy fuck

Need these stocks unloaded onto my balls asap

Gonna buy some db stock once the eu politiancs decide to save this turd.

>that bounce
(((someone))) panicked

You wanna kill us all I wanna carry you on my back. You spoke of DB for maybe 20 days. I did for 20 years

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4u

Bread guy from last two threads
WELCOME
TO
THE
HELLZONE

We are well overdue for a habbening.

Now is the time to BUY BUY BUY

Why did it jump suddenly? WTF is going on with this stock?

This is literally the ONLY large German bank I could find that is doing even remotely well, it's an investment bank.

It appears Kek is still here.

Praise him.

plunge protection team, Cred Forums version

SOON VERY SOON.

jewish sorcery

>it's back at 11.20

implying (((they))) won't do whatever it takes to keep trump out and globalism from exploding

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Literally throwing all of their cards on the table
Rallying before the end

Stocks always do this. Rothschild has 600 batman phones connected to various puppets

Happening cancelled. Go home everyone.

what do you mean the bank is out of money?

Got my silver, but I haven't got my bitcoin yet. I'd better get on that.

don't be retarded now

I got 8 kilos silver bought at $660 each, 10 BTC and 1000 ETH hope thats enough

better buy some DB stocks ausbro

heh u muslim devil

we gonna get kill?

>not investing in Dragonballs
what are you guys all new to finance?

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I don't think Deutsche Bank collapse is possible it would be bailed out.

is there some way to contribute to the crash, without actually owning stock?

I'm a poor wagecuck. I've only got 2.6 kg of silver, and can only afford 1 BTC and about $500 of ethereum.

Where did you get your silver?

Show me some Muslim userers bls

Not happening queermos

J-Just a second here! I don't have your money, i-it's at Soros' house!

11.25. Is the happening cancelled?

Yea I mined a few years back and got ETH during ICO got silver from Perth Mint

it already collapsed along with most every other german bank bro

look at my charts above

the german economy's in the shitter far worse than you might suspect

financial services is a YUGE segment of the economy and it reflects broader trends

they're finished

be unpredictable

Ask yourself this question before each and every post. Do I sound Establishment?

>people itt look at a graph and think they understand what's going on

Why are we forgetting about the most valuable commodity of them all? The almighty Pepe.

235 nigger

islamic banking is usury but you call the interest a gift and 10% of it goes to charity

total usury though

this
let us help

Lets summarise Merkel's policy:

She invited in literally everybody
Over 1,000,000 came
She changed her mind, leaving thousands of immigrants on their way to Germany tied up in central and southern Europe
To stop the flows which she herself invited, she then negotiated a deal with Turkey which would allow 80,000,000 Muslims to come to Europe visa-free

Is she the GOAT leader?

NOT
HAPPENING
LEAF-BOY

Wat? Also why should I care. Everythig the nose touched turned to boogers

yahoo is showing 11.14

Ok. You convinced all the edge and angst out there that fiat money is now backed with your Anecdotes. We're saved

can any of you faggots modify this to a german bank version?
replace the nig with a rapefugee maybe?

she was extremely beneficial for the german economy, forcing other european countries to refinance our banks and into austerity afterwards.

buy gold and silver and copper mining company stocks

it's the path of flight for people who want to keep their money in the market but want it to be 'safe' and see shit hitting the fan

when they go up people notice, because it coincides with people pulling their money out of the kike banks

Praise EKE for he prevents the happenings

I don't think I'm making myself very clear.

IT'S NOT FUCKING HAPPENING NO MATTER HOW MUCH YOU JERK OFF ABOUT STOCK TRENDS.

>Also why should I care.
you asked you homosexual

>safe
>market
>being things

I am pretty sure that short of nuclear war, straya is fairly safe from happenings
we're more likely to pull together as neighbours and mates

No because you just talk mashed potatoes. Utter stupidity. Nobody knows wtf you say

it's crashing

Not so fast Mario

shut the fuck up

this is just another nail in the coffin for DB which is basically the last solvent large bank in germany

look at these charts

is it the final nail? who knows but don't shit up the thread with your faggotry any more ok?

I warned everybody right here

not safe from skin cancer :(thenose))

>>safe
>>market
>>being things

>t's the path of flight for people who want to keep their money in the market but want it to be 'safe'
>people who want to keep their money in the market
>'safe' even with fucking air quotes

are you chinese, indian, or muslim?

t. DB America investor relations manager

OP's of fake happening threads get banned

Even if the Germans aren't fucked the Italians certainly will be

Again, everybody ignore FXZpWNUK. Don't answer his questions, just ignore him.

Islamic banking is usurious, because the bank simply calls the interest a "fee" and promise to give 10% to charity.

Now I know you're a Muslim because you're going to play your taqiyya game where you pretend not to understand.

You niggers are stupid. Just invest in eastern Poland.

You aint miss cleo. Tell me 5 things the right ever did for this continent. Aaand go. Also you wars bring refugees and you do them to be anti Christian. YOU fucked up Mexico. YOU fucked up derivatives. And you seek to range ban us. You're Little Women. Can't silence me boy

Praise kek for collapse. I don't want to wait any longer.

DB shitting the bed is a happening you retard.

CTRing this hard is just sad.

You're desperate broad stroke JIDF cannonfodder
Is this what we do now is just repeat after me verbatim?

The Italians and the Spanish are finished.
DB will just pop from the seams

Pull all your money out, don't invest in anything on paper within their periphery. Buy physical commodities that go up in value. People will tell ya precious metals, but guns, land, art, wine, classic cars and foreign markets can pay off as well.

What are some good tasty export products that I could buy relatively cheap? I am thinking of opening up an Amazon cured sausage shop.

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TANKING

european banks are in a bad shape, ever since interest rates are low. whats the new part?

everyone is so busy saving the germans
the italians died

oh shit, here we go

I'm not wasting my shekels on rare pepes.

11.18

hello györgy schwartz

Is there some way to ruin the life of millions of people without risking anything yourself?
Why don't you walk into a train you piece of shit.

They are getting really worse today in particular.

That's what's new.

What's happening in Spain, user? Is it the same thing as Italy?

Tanks in 15

You can always go short or buy puts. Just don't get squeezed.

If you don't into trading...

...you can wage an info campaign. Shitpost about insiders pulling their money and liquidity issues on finical site comment sections.

HIGH DOWNWARD VELOCITY

I wish we could summon a merchant to explain to us goys what's really happening.

not really. they are hovering around 11 since forever. were at 11.06 already.

>Deutsche Bank AG’s status as the riskiest among its peers is worsening, based on a U.S. regulator’s measure of leverage, adding to the lender’s woes as it braces for a settlement over mortgage securities.

bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-09-20/deutsche-bank-s-low-capital-makes-it-no-1-for-risk-hoenig-says

KABOOOOOOOM

I'm a trader what do u want to know?

>good tasty export products
Kabanosy

So I guess there is a pro zionist adelson billionaire who bankrupts card tables and one who dislikes zionism and maybe hates the markets too? Good for him

at this point you might as well go for the killshot to your economy while there's still warm weather

if you decide to go apeshit this winter russia might turn off the gas and let you all battle the dindus for furniture and euros to shovel into garbage cans to stay warm

Also aren't you doing negative interest now too?

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What the fuck happened to DB on Friday?

Why is Deutsche Bank failing and why, if it is in fact collapsing, does the price keep spiking after a big fall? It was down to $11.13 and then damn near immediately jumped back to $11.20

Total global social collapse when?
>won't get out of bed for anything less
wake me up when it's full shtf/mad max/stalker out there
>Euro-collapse/kebab uprising/civil war

Yes
Disrupt power supply
This is to interrupt kraut businesses causing late payments
Perhaps enough to collapse that bank teetering on death within the month

Pretty much but much worse

express.co.uk/finance/city/674092/Eurozone-Spain-meltdown-shares-plummet-EU-Spanish-banks

Polish Slim Jims?

we have those too

they're called Slim Jims here

but I expect yours are much better

youtube.com/watch?v=Lxp_3000h_U

FUCKING KIKES STOP TRYING TO SAVE IT. JUST LET IT BURN.

you are not fooling me györgy

They are buying there own stock to keep it up will people are trying to sell, to allow Germany to burn gotta think like a Jew. It's not that hard

Is the 'market' with the stocks, bonds and all that shit i dont understand same as a sports betting shop?

rare

when will you happening faggots fuck off

What is there to fool you are the garbage can monster of sesame street billionaires. Also. Epstein. Also. Putin. For the same shit

Pretty much. It's glorified gambling.

We are one of the only big active threads tonight too bad

You people are idiots.
Still making money on polish market.

Yes, a sports betting shop that has been given legitamcy. It's like gambling but a nicer name so they can pretend its not bad or as risky.

Jesus, how much are they pumping in just to keep this fat pig afloat, is this going just to be like china, where they stave off hard enough to not die in the next year, or will it fall because these are worthless bonds?

>Why is Deutsche Bank failing
Fundamental failure of the German economy from bad governance, spending all the savings on rapefugees, and especially recently difficulties faced by VW who DB is super heavily invested in. Basically if DB and VW goes down so do all the pension funds in Germany.

>and why, if it is in fact collapsing, does the price keep spiking after a big fall? It was down to $11.13 and then damn near immediately jumped back to $11.20
it's called profit taking and at this point in this era is handled automatically by bots.

also there are other bots buying stock with likely imaginary money to keep the price from crashing worse

they intend to sell it back off quietly over time

if you're a german bank you can get money for free now (prime rate is 0) so that allows for all kinds of tricks

We lost $1.61 in toiletscrubber incorporated

ebin :D

Its failing because of its exposure to derivatives.

When a stock falls like this and the shares spike it is usually traders buying back shorted shares.

If you don't understand shorting it basically works like the inverse of buying a stock. You make money while it goes down. in order to cash out instead of selling you stock (which is what you would do if you were long) you buy the stock which covers your short position and locks in your profit.

Christ, it's nearing Greece levels of fucked over there.

The article was posted in May, but I assume it's ongoing?

So who is Djokovic of the market?

>spending all the savings on rapefugees

why did we do this?
;___;

Realistically, would any other countries go down too?

>mfw the iranians are the ones who will suffer the most because of this

How many megatons of freedom can you withstand, m80?

Soros

No its not really. Only in the loosest sense.

Hasn't stopped at all, it's just not being reported in English media, even the DB debacle is hardly seeing much media attention.

chain reaction could collapse the euro

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Dunno about spain but the best thing is that no one is talking about banks anymore, the latest craze in the news is that whore that killed herself then comes the earthquake people then the book fair in turin, not even kidding btw

Because Hitler lost Hans

dude you shouldn't have lied to the california liberal jews and said the tdi is friendly to the environment and fuel efficient

now they're all fucking ass mad because they have been retroactively deprived of many years of smug from driving these smogboxes

What about buybacks where a company sells shares and then for who knows the fuck why, they're allowed to go back to those holders and be like yeah. Um. We buyssees shareszies backzies bwz. Nobody cares about original purchase prices. They're ours now. Again. Fuck me. Completely illegal in the 80s. But ya knooooow. Right wing sheeeit. Muh shoulder pads. Muh androgyny. Muh precious Ray Gun and his second incarnate ronald jeremy drumpenberg

This brings into consideration the following question: what is worse, to let the snake alive which will continue with its wicked ways, or slay it now in order to prevent future victims?

German Owners can't burn pensions like the Chinese did can they?

Jews. It's always those goddamn Jews.

yes of course, DB is essentially the largest share holder in the ECB

every country in the Eurozone could be fucked because Frankfurt is the core of the European finance community and DB is the biggest bank in Germany and in Frankfurt and shit

other countries are probably dusting off their old currency making machinery at this very moment

it should have been killed 10+ years ago, we're going to witness a buttfuck of biblic proportions

WHICH NUMBER FOR HAPPENING?

>positive
We got cucked desu

If you are Central European and own any money that is under DBK like in Postbank and such I'd suggest you switch service providers :D

Im guessing its gonna go to .34 and then tank

oops this was meant for a german user but oh well

All they have to do is avoid a default or complete collapse.

They should be a takeover target at this price but curiously no other institution has stepped in to acquire them.

Why would no investment banking competitor with inside knowledge of the market and this situation step in at this price???

Hmm really makes you think.

PLOP

Every day the same damn thread.

Nothing is happening. Cred Forums was wrong again.

Slim Jims are hyper-refined versions of what the Polish user posted, that got absolutely nothing in common except the packing process. Kabanosy tastes god-tier while Slim Jims are a 2 on a scale of 1 to 10.

Kek has been building up his energy for the ultimate omega habbening.

demon worship isn't so bad you should try it chaotic evil for life ;O;

The stock fixer 6000 is trippin out

Fuck, man. I'm getting sleepy. I was told this shit was crashing fast. I feel like I've been lied to.

the printing machines had to be destroyed to enter the €

If it makes it any more hilarious:

Jerry cuck Brown wants a milage tax (not gas or carbon, MILAGE), and it's a $5m insurance policy if you want autonomous.
Don't know the deal with electric here.

>t. Leaving Commiefornia next year

I stuffed my face with slim jims watching the all night chimp out in charlotte.

The regret is real

Im gunna be sick user

FREE FAAAAAALLLIIIIN

why did italy believe that the euro is a good idea?

THE ONE THAT GOT AWAY

They did?

you're gonna be shitting out burning napalm is what you're gonna be.

>every country in the eurozone is fucked

10% loss over the last three days user

put your head up your ass and pretend the lights are off all you like, it's happening

FUNNY ISN'T IT?

Ya just in time eh?

You're going to make a killing. Probably have to blow up the Chunnel at some point too, that's a shame.

Build underwater underground tunnel wall.

yeah, because the US decided it is the right moment to kick DB in the dick, since Apple got kicked in the dick.

THE END IS NOW

No one did at the time, we were forced into it. Everyone knew we didn't have the resources to withstand the euro, thank fuck one of the faggots that got us into this mess died a couple of days ago, too bad that the other faggot is in the euro parliament or the un, can't remember at the moment.

Why did any county believe the Euro was a good idea? It seemed nuts to me even before it happened.

well, italy joined the euro, no one forced them to do so.

Yeah I hate Slim Jims too, they're just a thinly veiled attempt to market pressure-washed carcass scraps.

This is why I want to import some good cured meat products at reasonable prices. If they already LOOK like Slim Jims but taste way better I'm going to clean up.

>
3

>called this shit like 5 months ago

feels good cannot wait for that italian bank to fuck to

>implying a happening wouldnt crush the london banksector too

>Just hovering over 11

Yawn no happening nothing to see here

and since you bought their precious monsanto, quite the coincidence that the 14b fine came the day after

I need it to happen soon as fuck for Trump votes.

Yeah it should be a $30m insurance policy but he'll never get the mileage tax because he is INSISTING on coupling it with in-car GPS tracking.

france wanted it, so the german deutsche mark no longer dictates what other european currencies are worth.

southern european countries wanted it to strenghten their buying power and credit rankings.

Don't play with the big boys if you don't have big boy pants in your economy user.

>my neurons are firing
Interesting point, think it might have to do with the EUs fragile economy, what country would bail them out? Not one of the EU nations (besides Germany itself) could do it with their economy. Germany has spent too much money elsewhere (rapefugees) to really put any money towards them, another bank in Germany? Maybe, but the risk seems too large for them to take it on. No international bank will take it over either, not with that large fine looming over its head.
>Jewish conspiracy
At this point it's just throwing darts at a board.
Anyway this goes, I hope it crumbles, there are a lot of bubbles that need to be either popped or minimized, yet no one in high positions are willing to talk about them, and when someone does, they either don't ever bring it up again or it's swept under the rug once they get somewhere in a powerful position.
Let it all fall so we can rebuild again, because this seems like it will never end.

DROP IS STARTING AGAIN

>polish poles
>twice as good as slim jims!

mfw

BIG DROP

IDS HABBENING

Don't know how it is in germany with the eternal unfuckable lardass but down here we didn't get a real goverment since the 60s

Kek yeah he'll never get it in that case.

He'd be better off taxing people for having grass within 5 miles of their home.

Prepare to open the gates to Britain fellow Eurofags. Meet us at The calais jungle lets let these bad boys through if they crash our economy again.
Hand out flyers at asylum centers with directions to calais etc.

They think thwy can screw us again?
Hint, Italy.

we are best allies, after all.
but the US does know that fining DB right now is more than just fining a single bank, r-right?

NO SHIT?

Hahahahahahaaaaaa! I wonder if they have any MASTER engravers still working the trades in those nations because they're going to need them.

Poor Rome and the constant teet suckers

CRASHING THIS BANK

What's this? Bizzarro yurop?

berlusconi had your best interest in mind, he protested against austerity.

the only difference for Canadians would be 12 months of being cut off from resupply instead of 6 months

>DBK trending to a new record low?
>DBK getting fined for 14B$?
>DBK has exposure to Southern European failed banks?
>DBK has failing business operations?
>OH GEE LET ME JUST BUY THESE SHARES THEN

they've been trying that shit in Oregon too, but the people won't have it

it's a voluntary thing and less than 50 users ever signed up

giant waste of money supporting some fucking state official's retarded brother in law as usual

Yo, sorry for getting our shit overrun by Roaches after you kicked them.

Also Kabanosy are legit.

honestly, i also have no clue what they were thinking. france was doing better with the franc, italy with the lira. you always were behind germany somewhat, but there never was this big divide in standards of living.

Thats normal market fluctuations idiot
Money system isnt collapsing
If anything its a good opportunity to buy DB stock!

because lots of palms were greased really well

greasers gonna grease

On paper, pure propaganda, the taxes kept rising through his 2 terms and the 2 commies in between, nothing ever changed and now we have to deal with the american sockpuppet

Good luck with the Italian banks. They need to crash em too like greece to get in more refugees.

Was wondering why they put the Brangelina shit out. Everyday a new lie, same old same old.

WITH NO SURVIVORS

how many refugees do you get per stock?

>pol in charge of financial market happenings

Kek

Berlusconi had great ministers of economy and foreign affairs.
If only he wasn't a clown acting like an Eastern autocrat

>because lots of palms were greased really well
would love to see hard sources on this.
italy is neither small, nor poor, it cant just be bought into submission like the leaders of some african shithole.

Yeah everything looks great doesn't it.

>would love to see hard sources on this
yes i'm sure but then these sources would end up dead mr stasi agent

you were certainly doing better under berlusconi than under renzi.

but as pathetic as renzi is, he is not to blame for the problems you have. the structural divergences caused by the euro are.

DB will gladly suffer through lower share value in exchange for its sovereignty. High share prices are undemocratic

They put money on GoPro.

i mean, like, internet links or sumthing.

dude our low-grade beef scraps aren't that great

Sorry but I remember you had some problems with the DM at the time, too high value or something, am I wrong?
Tell me something, is it the same shit over there? Today I was watching the news and all our major newspapers had that brangelina shit on the coverpage and some fucking cyberbullying law because fuck priorities

Poland gets so shortchanged
we get 0 per stock
This is why our economy is struggling

TFW no refugees in your country

youtube.com/watch?v=-GsEXQwBzxo

Back up to 11.27.

NOTHING is happening.

okay I think it's gonna keep fluctuating around its current level for the day, the big players unloaded their shit during the start of the day.

Yes, you're right. Don't forget that in between we also had a government basically appointed by the eu and we're going to pay for the damage he has done for twenty years.
Seems like renzi is distancing himself from the eu though, we'll see if it's too late.

>Sorry but I remember you had some problems with the DM at the time, too high value or something, am I wrong?
yeah, we would never be able to outcompete china in exports with the Deutsche Mark.
so you solved many of our problems by allowing us to have a discount currency, whilst suffering with an overrated currency yourselves.

the question would probably be: why?

iirc when the big scandal about the murrikin spying everyone everywhere something came out but it was quickly swept under the rug in a couple of days

It has lost 90.15% of its value since 2007

Oh poor cunt

Probably struggling because all your skilled labor goes overseas because poland is shit.

Literal 2nd world. How does Germany not have a wall?

dude you can't judge the whole day's activity from the first little segment of it.

The after lunch trading session will really nail balls to the walls, that's when shit often hits the fan.

This is some kind of scam
There's no way everything's just okay now roght after being on the BRINK of collapse

Of course it's a scam. Who's watching this, officially? Literally "nobody". Except if they lose too much. Then the slot machines turn off

Its the new distraction lie. Give the refugees flyers to go to Britain. Ill make a post about it once it shoves.

cuz greatest ally, the dm was a beady eyed invention and we had americans fiddling with our government since the 70s

You mean the cash machines, right?

nobody wants the refugees, conspiracy-kun

The commerzbank machines I guess. Up 3%. I'm goin to bed.

>Earlier on Tuesday, Soros wrote in an op-ed article for The Wall Street Journal about his plan to invest half a billion dollars in migrants, which will include investments in "startups, established companies, social-impact initiatives, and businesses founded by migrants and refugees themselves."
uk.businessinsider.com/george-soros-says-europes-refugee-crisis-has-no-simple-solution-2016-9

This guy is really trying hard.
Kebab stores everywhere, I guess.

This has got to be a massive buyback
This is gonna bite them later in the day right?

Thank you for your empathy aussie bro

But you could share some of the prosperity refugees
We need some strength from the diversity

yep

here's how it works

ECB prime rate is pretty much 0%

what that means is that banks can borrow it for free

when a bank borrows money from a central bank to fulfill a loan (or for other purposes such as selling instruments) that money is just created out of thin air electronically these days

so what happens is you have big banks like DB, Commerzbank, and WGZ simply sucking new money as fast as the central banks will allow and injecting it into the conomy theoretically

but what's really happening is some large portion of that money is actually used to float the stock market

these big banks are zombies, look them up in the charts i posted in this thread or online for yourself

the german economy is nearly dead

Im not even talking in terms of a country bailing them out.

The thing to ponder is has a competitor already stepped in behind closed doors and done their due diligence? Priced the value of the companies assets vs liabilities out?

At this price its entirely likely.

Investment banks...the whole industry is very incestuous. They have a very good idea of what is going on at other banks. They talk. They know what size their divisions are. What size their portfolios are. The other banks AND the central banks know what the actual value of DB probably is.

After all a stock like this doesn't drop because gary from indian read a story on yahoo finance and sold his 300 shares. This is heavy institutional selling.

The main issue is their accounting which has been misleading. They apparently used a method of accounting that was similar to the method Goldman Sach used to hide Greece's debt and make it look like it was strong enough to join the EU. We now all know that wasn't the case.

Expect DB to be ambiguous to down right untruthfully about their financial solvency up to the very end (if it comes to that). Just like bear sterns and legmen bros.

...Friday they will be on TV telling you everything is fine while they are dumping everything on the dumb money. Monday they stock will open at 5 cents on the dollar... thats how these fucking crooks operate. Someone always gets stuck holding the potato.

the eu is also helping you in a way, with draghi buying your government bonds. against the will of the germans, by the way.

Wasn't the S&P supposed to crash. Somebody mentioned the 26th. If nothing by then then it'll probably never happen

see

RAPE ECONOMY
IMPORT MUSLIMS
RAPE THE NATIVES
MERKEL STILL BREATHING

WEW

When will we see the bubble collapse?
1 month? 1 week?

>the german economy is nearly dead
it is not, m8. our banks are doing bad. the real economy is doing fine, we are exporting more than china in absolute terms.

>Hmm really makes you think.
they've crunched the numbers on the fundamentals of the german economy and done projections on the 5, 10, 20 year outlooks

nuff said

the americans always had a lot of influence over us, but its not really like we are controlled by them.

We're sinkin boys

>Tesco PLC (TSCO) Receives Hold Rating from Deutsche Bank AG

What does this mean?

That's why it briefly surfaced that americans were beind the fall of the last berlusconi government? Or that our dearest leader disappears for days in memeland doing fuck knows what? Or that the american embassy suggested to vote yes to the next referendum to prevent our economy from going down the shitter?

You don't help a person by cutting his leg and tending with morphine to his wounds.

He is investing in social upheaval.

spends half a billion on refugees.

Take the rest of that money and goes short the entire eurozone. Shorting government debt, finical sectors, longing logistics and military companies.

He's doing the same thing in america with BLM

He is literally trying to destabilize 1st world countries so he can bet against them and profit from their collapse.

He probably already has a huge long term bet against the EU

>That's why it briefly surfaced that americans were beind the fall of the last berlusconi government?
where did it surface?

the US was also against brexit, against apple being taxed, against regulations in TTIP - and europe is pursuing all of these nonetheless.

Yeah, because America is really good at taking 'no' for an answer. Forget it Hanzel, (((America))) is pulling all our strings.

Aaaand it's back. Who's having sex with the Twatter algorithms?

>forgets 2008

My god..

DB need to settle 14 bln dollar agreement with US for selling RBMS in the 2005-2007, DB also needs to pay for LIBOR manipulation scandal, for silver prices maipulation scandal and for Russian mafia money laundering scandal. The legal costs exceed DB's capital. It's over.

Let's also look at this as a part of world banking events.

Recently (well months ago) the AIIB opened. If you don't know about the AIIB, it's China's World Bank and they are claiming to offer gold-backed Yuan as an alternative to typical Western fiat schemes.

Many countries, including most EU countries and Canada and Australia signed up. It's basically the US, the Japs, and Tuvalu who didn't join.

I think what we might be seeing is a death struggle. The EU and other economies can not FULLY join China's scheme unless they allow certain Chinese favors in their own financial industries, basically giving foreign holding companies full footing with actual banks.

It's very complicated and shit but here's the gist: China prints its own money out of thin air. The ECB and the Fed have to borrow it from their "member" aka owner banks. If China can come in and exert its influence in their economies they are dead meat.

It might already be happening.

Correction. I'M FREE FALLIN.

>we are exporting more than china in absolute terms
nigga wut

leaving the euro would also be far from fun for italy. this would be the only alternative left.

I think they would try to postpone it until after the election. If a Trump win is immediately followed by a crash, (((they))) may think (((they))) will have the next election in the bag.

Late october into the winter.

Gunna be a cold fucking winter lad.

National news, lasted a couple of weeks and then on with the usual vapid shit. I'll see if I can find you a link

Warning Wobbles

holy shit

a german who realizes that we don't literally mind control everything you do

big boy pants, i like that

This pinky finger assplay is boring me

what part of 2008 do you mean?

if anybody here knew when of even if it would happen they wouldn't be posting about it before hand user

>Couple grand in cash, 15lbs of silver locked away
>Precious metal etfs
>Food and water for a month
>Couple bottles of liquor, lots of soap, fuel, batteries
>And a nice shotgun and revolver to keep it all safe

Be prepared bois. People will pay out the nose for anything when shit hits the fan

would be nice if it were one from a mainstream news source, not pol-was-rite.com

It's a smorgasbord of flea infested donkey cock

Huh. Any tips on an investment right now?

go down to the feed store and get a thing of horse antibiotics just in case

Leaving the euro would be a heavy sacrifice for the Italian families, you're not wrong, that's why I'm more cautious than some of my countrymen in regards of why our government is so passive on European policies.

buy british arms companies

actual british ones not cucked conglomerates married to EU firms

Fuck u Deutsche Bahn!

>get shot.

Got a ticker in mind? Seems like a good choice.

espresso.repubblica.it/inchieste/2016/02/22/news/cosi-la-nsa-spiava-il-governo-di-silvio-berlusconi-1.251440
repubblica.it/politica/2016/02/23/news/usa_spiavano_berlusconi_ira_forza_italia_governo_chiarisca-134036528/
huffingtonpost.it/2016/02/23/wikileaks-silvio-berlusconi-intercettazioni-usa_n_9295856.html
Here you go, first results, commiejew newspaper too

>-.5%
Needs new bread. I'VE BECOME SO NUMB

The problem with these outlooks is that they look at how an economy is currently doing even if that economy is running on debt, 0 interest rates, and essentially forced growth.

When u say they've done projections 5, 10, 20 years down the road...as someone who traded through the financial crisis, I'm sorry but I have to laugh.

october 2007 the market was hitting new highs and a year and a half later the treasury secretary was on his knees in front of the president begging for the wall st bailout package to get passed through congress (yes that actually happened look it up)

Models, Projections, Simulations. Psshhhh

Yeah it's all over the place fuck this

Fucking siemens will pay with the blood of his children

Figure out why you always crash at a specific point.

What it'd require for a big point drop is for us to get a major new outlet publish a damning story about DB

IMI on the London Stock Exchance looks nice.

China offers a currency backed by gold and its looking not so good for the US.

However whats not so good for the US is terrible for China.

What China will want preferably is a slow transition.

Considering the amount of US debt and gold they now own it leaves the united states in a precarious positions.

So if i understand correctly

stock prices go down because of EU volatility

Once a certain threshold is passed bots and some opportunistic buyers buy stocks, pushing up the price

Once stock rise above a certain point, holders sell due to the upwards trend and the volaitilty

Rinse and repeat

Correct or not?

Good luck with that unless you finns find a way to bind it to a meme

Looks good, but what about BAE Systems? I aint so rich I can throw around thousands like that.

>The problem with these outlooks is that they look at how an economy is currently doing even if that economy is running on debt, 0 interest rates, and essentially forced growth.
>When u say they've done projections 5, 10, 20 years down the road...as someone who traded through the financial crisis, I'm sorry but I have to laugh.
That Arthur Anderson type shit doesn't fly any more though.

When I say they are looking at long term outlooks I mean it. They are taking into account Muslim birth rates, etc. as well.

>october 2007 the market was hitting new highs and a year and a half later the treasury secretary was on his knees in front of the president begging for the wall st bailout package to get passed through congress (yes that actually happened look it up)
Yes and they all knew it was coming. So did everybody with a brain. The fact that it happened was an intentional fraud, not some giant accident that wasn't foreseen.

>Models, Projections, Simulations. Psshhhh
Yeah none of that is of any use in finance. In fact fuck math completely, let's go on feels.

Yep, but most important. Cometo Cred Forums and post SELL SELL SELL CRASHCRASH CRASH

BAE is a solid buy and hold, their IT patent portfolio alone is enormous and it's just a small part of their value.

you guys ever seen anything like this?

Alright, cool stuff. Thanks.

Its creeping down again.

The ECB can only borrow so much money from the nearly insolvent DB to pass off to zombie banks such as I mentioned above to float DB so the ECB can borrow money from DB to pass off to zombie banks such as I mentioned above to float DB so the ECB can borrow money from DB to pass off to zombie banks such as I mentioned above to float DB so the ECB can borrow money from DB to pass off to zombie banks such as I mentioned above to float DB so the ECB can borrow money from DB to pass off to zombie banks such as I mentioned above to float DB so the ECB can borrow money from DB to pass off

how long till the gimmedats dry up and niggers run wild?

I dunno, but when it happens it will the mother of all happenings on top of the economic implosion in progress.

>China offers a currency backed by gold and its looking not so good for the US.
Damn right, even if they don't have enough gold to convert it all. 10% is more than enough and they have that for sure.
>However whats not so good for the US is terrible for China.
Hehehe, they don't have to give a fuck. It's a country full of slaves running on government favors. Everything we've done to 'destroy' china since the 60s has failed.
>What China will want preferably is a slow transition.
Who knows what they want? They prefer to act by surprise and with subterfuge. I recommend reading The Tiger's Way.
>Considering the amount of US debt and gold they now own it leaves the united states in a precarious positions.
this I agree with completely, but the debt they own isn't really that large - it's this: if they cut off their exports it would tank our economy completely, nothing to buy

>That Arthur Anderson type shit doesn't fly any more though.

You would be surprised how much magic financial accountants pull out of their hats.

>When I say they are looking at long term outlooks I mean it. They are taking into account Muslim birth rates, etc. as well.

Ok.

>Yes and they all knew it was coming. So did everybody with a brain. The fact that it happened was an intentional fraud, not some giant accident that wasn't foreseen.

For most it was unforeseen. But I agree that it was intentional fraud. Its the same paper game bond traders have been playing for decades. In the 80's they unloaded all the bad paper on the savings and loans. In the financial crisis they unloaded it on the government. Basically drove the financial system to the brink of collapse then played a game of chicken with the government. The government blinked first.

Bailouts, QE, Near 0 interest rates, discount windows etc etc.

>Yeah none of that is of any use in finance. In fact fuck math completely, let's go on feels.

Look math is fine but my point is if the assumptions you are making going into a model or equation is flawed then the math is fucking bad. Often this is the case when projecting 5-20 years out. Most models can't even handle a year or two out let alone 20 years.

>For most it was unforeseen. But I agree that it was intentional fraud.
It was only unforeseen by the blind. Every high level player knew exactly what was going on because it is standard finance tradecraft.

Saying they didn't see it coming is a way to cover their asses from their gated communities while their investors howl.

>Look math is fine but my point is if the assumptions you are making going into a model or equation is flawed then the math is fucking bad. Often this is the case when projecting 5-20 years out. Most models can't even handle a year or two out let alone 20 years.
This is well known but it doesn't stop modeling from being used to project long term trends because it's quite better than nothing.

Kek wills a DB happening

Why is every day a crash day on Cred Forums? The only thing that could cause a stock market crash today would be a rate hike.

We gonna move over to the other marketwatch thread made by the aussie once this one 404s?

it's literally not though

there is a thread because the largest bank in Germany lost 10% of its value in three days and might go even further down today

youtube.com/watch?v=-DdfLtOrBPU
So this is pretty much Germany right now?

Whoever is buying at the moment is insane.

of course! imagine it vividly and makes memes about it.

praise kek

see you after germany implodes, it's bed time for me

and holy fuck my captcha

Why the fuck is it still going up?

Yeah a few months ago there was an user leaking credit swaps in one thread. Went back a fair way.

>It was only unforeseen by the blind. Every high level player knew exactly what was going on because it is standard finance tradecraft.
>Saying they didn't see it coming is a way to cover their asses from their gated communities while their investors howl.

Look I agree that the financial crisis was in many ways telegraphed. This isn't conspiracy. Its fact.

However I could fill an entire thread with valid WTF were they thinking info from a ton of financial institutions. And they weren't just wounding themselves to look like victims of the market crash. These were actual division or in some cases CEO's making terrible bets tapping into the over leveraged atmosphere of that period. In a lot of cases these companies became so large and compartmentalized It became impossible to even quantify their companies risk or open exposure. Did the real high ups actually allow for this. Possibly but remember there was no guarantee the government was going to backstop them. In the end that was the ultimate trade/bet they made.

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