Cred Forumss opinion on Rodrigo Duterte?

A true hero and an example for us all.

He's just baiting.

>drug dealers volunteered for this
it seems to be working

I'm not on this wrong site and I'm not baiting. I just hate Cred Forums.

>Implying they won't plant shit on Duterte the minute they "caught" him

Come on, man. Even if he isn't a druggo, that's a 4D chess move the CIA is itching to use.

at least it's not like home where they let criminals go because there's no room for them

Stop shilling this guy you autistic flip. He's still a degenerate leftie

The CIA couldn't invade Cuba, a country walking distance away from Florida.

They'll leave this guy alone.

Based left winger. Wish there were more lefties like him.
Western left wing are all useless SJWs and or junkies

OK, so you are just masochistic then

Maduro is still president of Venezuela, the american public really lost their apetite for "muh spreading freedom" after the ISIS fiasco

>I'm not on this wrong site and I'm not baiting. I just hate Cred Forums.
thats ok, most of us didn't start out red pilled

The asian left is still the real left, they are basically alt-right at this point

the western "left" stopped giving a shit about the workers a long time ago

>shoot to kill

if america had done this then we would have ended war on drugs long time ago.

Based Filipino.

Put them in charge of Argentina and he will get the Malvinas back.

They have specops and small naval bases here and many supporters. In fact, the jingoists/militarists got mad when Duterte said Amrika GTFO and then later retracted. It's easier to wreck PH than Cuba and Venezuela.

>leftie

We're not forking over our hard earned cash to some poor fucks. Stop this meme.

Yeah, but that would be razzzist and shieet

absolutely this
duterte is based as fuck

disrespecting king obongo is just icong on the cake

Okay, but what is your opinion on a Neko in a box

Seems like a good guy.

> It's easier to wreck PH than Cuba and Venezuela.

Well for starters, Venezuela wrecked itself, kek

but more to your point, there is indeed a chance of a militarist cup against Duterte on the China issue

Duterte seems not to mind a China-dominated Asia that much

Probably not. Duterte just promised brand new arms from Russia and possibly China and regularly visit armies and injured troops across the country when he doesn't do stuff. No president of ours have done that since the olden times. The armed forces' morale is definitely high at this point.

But if you say covertly American-backed military coup that's a different story! The Duterte not minding Chinese SEA dominance is a """"""reason"""""" why some disgruntled gentlemen will """""""coup""""""" on their """""""own""""""". :^D

Communist sympathiser. He needs to go.

Another meme. He ordered to wipe the floor with muzzies and commies if they start something during the ceasefire and peace process.

He's based as fuck. Trump needs to model his criminal justice policy after this man. Crime would drop 99.99% in a week if cops had the power to go into the ghetto and take out the trash.

Obongi is tame as fuck when compared to Hillary. Please don't let Pneumoniarry win. This country's great momentum in decades is indeed resting on America's election.

>He's based as fuck. Trump needs to model his criminal justice policy after this man. Crime would drop 99.99% in a week if cops had the power to go into the ghetto and take out the trash.
imagine the day when you need to establish a military police force to raid the ghettos like they do in brazil

He's pretty based. Constantly attacking globalists and degenerates

funny but real story

#1 critic of Duterte has been accused of having ties with drug lords. said critic is also a senator, and the head of an investigative committee in this drug war

you know who else is a senator? Manny Pacquiao. know what Pacquiao did? with the critic named and accused by several witnesses from the drug rings (who are actually prison inmates atm), Pacquiao argued that the critic be relieved off her position in the investigative committee. Pacquiao knocked the critic off the chair.

I kinda like him.

>Pacquiao knocked the critic off the chair.

based

...

>kills drugniggers
>kills lying journokikeniggers
>triggers libshits
>tells obongo to fuck off
>doesn't give a fuck
>his people love him

the bad:
>seems to like dudeWEEDlmao man
>pro-muslim
>ISIS is present in his country
>apparently communist

Overall based but could use improvement, but hey, it's not my country or people, they're the ones who get to decide who rules them, not me.

he's a self-confessed socialist

he's also advocating federalism so that the wealth wouldn't be concentrated in imperial manila.

He is not nearly as harsh as the rhetoric makes him out to be, which is good.

The main thing he is doing is bringing the Philippines into the China-Russia sphere, end internal conflicts, trying to break the back of the oligarchy and set the country on the path towards socialist development.

You forgot to mention how much you hate Assad.
Also you made me like based rod even more with your post, congrats.

Philos in this thread, how okay am I to indulge in drugs in the backpack central places and tourist hotspots like boracay like I used to be able to?

Or are even those spots feeling this? I thought they would want to keep it away from the tourist bucks.

Poor low level druggies. Meanwhile, top drug lords protected by corrupt Senators get the VIP treatment in prison, complete with air condioned rooms, Jacuzzi baths, flat screen TVs and chandeliers.

I'd rather he focus fire on the drug dealers and drug lords instead of wasting all this time stomping out drug users like every single tweaked out hobo is pablo escobar in disguise. the sooner we rip out the heart of the problem the less blood we'll have to mop up.

Don't forget the sex doll.

he has the best response to allegations of human rights abuses

>fuck you. your mothers a whore. dont look at me REEEEEEEEEEE

if i ever find myself in court im going to quote him

It's not Duterte's fault he inherited such a corrupt situation.

In order to forge a real power base that is committed to serving the country, he needs to set some type of oligarchies-eradication campaigns in motion. It's the only way to separate the wheat from the chaff. Vigorous enforcement of the law will expose the corrupt elements more and more. If rule of law can eventually be restored, the popular impetus for vigilantism will wither.

Based

yea you're a fucking idiot, crime would drop for the first week then spiral out of control as the gang wars begin in earnest, once the bangers of all stripes are told their lives are forfeit do you really think they're going to start acting rationally?

when you were here, have you ever noticed that the locals were awed by you? that's because you look different, hence the fanfare you got

now, if tips get out that you do drugs, consider that you'll have to will away all your cash if you ever want to get out alive or not paraded in front of cameras, or not dead. isn't it sweet to catch a different colored druggie fish? yellow fish are all too common. a white fish would adorn the airwaves well.

Cool guy who doesn't afraid of anyone.
Would trade for the little potato in a heartbeat.

hence the focus on NBP this early

you know for once it might make sense to go after users

>people go after distributors and dealers all the time
>they keep on popping up

>go after users this time
>kill some users
>scare the rest into not buying

no demand no crime right?

One of the top drug lords was even caught in a video performing a concert inside the prison and was able to sneak in truckloads of beer.

youtube.com/watch?v=EeNw5OmaA4o

FACTS:
>there is no "death squad"
>he respects due process and rule of law
>he values human rights
>extra judicial killings you see in the media with cardboard signs were done by druggies vs druggies, or his political opponents framing him

I'm sure that is much easier said than done. Corruption has not gotten such deep roots in law enforcement, courts and political office without protection that comes right from the top. You have to chip away at the weak spots first.

Total war against gangbangers would increase crime in the short term and then it'd be over.

We need to use the most draconian force possible to restore order.

But filipinos are the most powerful race in the world

desu that fanfares common in any SEA country from the girls looking for a way out. It's fun but never fall for it.

No drugs next visit it is then, I don't need them just thought tourist islands would be getting over looked.

This. Reminder that Hitler was a leftie too.

>he's a self-confessed socialist

He's as socialist as Merkel is a convervative. The plan of decentralizing Metro Manila is good for us Manila natives so provincial cities can progress and the niggers will have to stay there for good. That's the real and the only best plan for declogging the streets of Metro Manila.

>It's not Duterte's fault he inherited such a corrupt situation.

Exactly. And he's not even blaming the past administrations for this. What he did is made our special forces the guards of these prisons so they're far more less corruptible than low paid guards.

He's not entirely wrong. Duterte made our army work side by side with the police to flush out druggies. I would like to see niggers try and battle against a professional army equipped with helis, APCs, and drones. I believe America can do it and be great again in no time.

still looks kinda depressing desu, like a bad hotel

True. I just worry that a lot of innocent people will get caught in the crossfire before the benefits outweigh potential damage. After all, there was that one time cops here kidnapped and killed a man for ransom or some shit a few months ago, so giving them free reign to round up and kill people on suspected drug use or possession is pretty dangerous. but, i suppose the sooner and harder we push, the better. Just wish i could legally own a gun in case shtf especially bad.

>dictator
I'm probably being American right now but I'm pretty sure he was elected by the people. On the premise of him going ham on drug peddlers.

Then he want ham.

Looks based from where I'm sitting.

That's exactly what Mao did.
Before Mao, huge opium problem.
Mao took charge, killed anyone related to opium, a month later China was opium "culture" free, and still is to this day.

This idea of "left" and "right" is idealist Western liberal garbage, and not worth any time. What matters is who you serve and how you do it. Do you serve oligarchs, comparadors, neo-colonial powers, the global ruling class, or the people of your country.

>things that didn't work
It's not hard to move opiates in China Francois. You just have to know the right people to pay off.

>any elected leader I don't like is a dictator
>AMERIGA should assassinate elected leaders people chose, destabilize their political platforms and impose corrupt puppet regimes on other countries

And people wonder why the world is getting more and more pissed at American imperialism.

They have their own rooms, airconditioners, playstations, drugs, pools, drinks, fridge, sex dolls, laptops, and widescreen tvs all the while earning around $64K a month without being a druglord. $64 fucking K while in prison.

It's that or sharing skin diseases and tuberculosis with the drug runners, rapists, or robbers.

He needs to take back all his ugly jungle women (and her 15 family members) from the west coast. The military needs to make a rule against marrying bottom of the barrel philipinas.

He's backed by China and Russia tho ourcommies has aalways been on his side some of the will have positions in our given now

It seems like they are hiding something

>Opium trade not 100% eradicated therefore all efforts were a worthless failure

REEEEEEEEE stupid shithead delete this

>President Rodrigo Duterte

Father of Eva Duerte?

Hopefully we can separate now tho
I bets it going to be easier with federalism

Since taxes

Those commies are his lapdogs now and don't giving a shit @ EJK. Remember that what's-his-name communist faggot with a gay lisp that's been around since late 90s? He's slurping that Du30 juice right now. Lately it's just UP and Ateneo students who keep protesting against Duterte LMAO

Based De Lima for exposing this

Greater Eurasian Empire against the Amerijew when?

fun for now

prediction for your sweaty pinoy arse

curfews again ( your parents would know them )
all critics taken down as corrupt

your new president will turn out to be a socialist dictator

wait for it

I'd be scared if extrajudicial killings were legalized in my country

This makes people used too much to violence and to murders

How do we know that Duterte will have any control over this in the long run? This is just asking for anarchy

rappler.com/nation/146890-duterte-troops-massacre-promotion?utm_content=bufferdabb9&utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook.com&utm_campaign=buffer

>values human rights

It' either the corrupt cops sit on their hands and the vigilantes and drug cartels fight it out, or you try to see which elements of the police will stop being worthless sacks of shit who can be molded into a real police force. Sink or swim, trial by fire, steel sharpens steel, more cliches like this, etc. but you get the point. There has to be a departure from the old path.

If you don't think China is a conduit for opiates to the rest of the world you're deluding yourself friend. Consider leaving your basement occasionally.

He's blaming De Lima tho

Nice proxy leaf

or he isn't he's going to be popped by the CIA. LIke in Guatemala/Persia/... etc.

it is anarchy already because there is not the money to fund law and order already

controlled anarchy ( semi controlled )

these killings are to avoid the financial running costs of a court trial. it is literally because they don't have money to fund the legal system bro

*don't give

Killing me softly with his song

>t. formerly Elite pinoy now in a white country who got rekt by Marcos

Why do yellowfags try to scare the general populace like this? It's never going to work, Eugenio Lopez. :^)

No shit there are outlaws and renegades against the authorities in China still, but compare it to Afghanistsan today, which is a replica of what used to be imposed on China.

Rightfully so. It's really fun seeing that fuck in tears on TV every night getting rekt. Fuck her and the yellow ribbon gang.

After a bloodletting order can be restored. Countless examples in history. The
>death squads
seem to be loyal to Dutdut.

lets a lot of ugly fuckheads settle scores by setting people up.
Big mystery is why the worldwide silence on all the soldiers that were killed last year in the south by islamic militants? That was a lot of guys dead all at once and it didn't make any news.

Checked

>Filipinos dying
>people giving a shit

Pick one

B-but that's not even similar, Afghanistan is an exporter, they aren't in the biz, bc they are druggies, they need to grow poppy or they'll starve

China was always more of an end market, since the chinks live in slavery and they're always feeling miserable.

I just want to point out that the witnesses are prisoners over whom Vitaliano Aguirre has power and that the certification of de Lima's assigned number was done by the department he currently heads. Also, even prior to their public testimony, the prisoners were given immunity from suit.

Essentially the vast majority the critical factors in the house investigation so far are under the control of Vitaliano Aguirre.

Worth noting that Gwen Garcia, the lawmaker who corroborated the number of de Lima, is facing multiple allegations of corruption, and was suspended as governor of Cebu under the Aquino administration. She's a public supporter of Duterte, too.

Every side is pissed at her probably for the raids

What are you talking about, it was in the news. It just has zero novelty factor, since muzzies keep stirring shit since forever.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moro_Rebellion

Western-funded Open Society type journos and human rights activists are fused with the local oligarchy and have basically become a mouthpiece for the drug cartels the same way they are a mouthpiece for the terrorists in Syria and Libya, so it's not all that much of a mystery why their wailing and crying takes on a certain color the last few months.

>Calls Obama a pussy
He just cursed, but not directed to Obama
>kicks the US out of Phillipines
Not Phils. just Southern island with a lot of muzzies coz Americans are prime targets of terrorists
>uses RWDS' to purge degeneracy.
drug pushers = cancer

What? You're trying to tell me that a government has no money to fund its absolutely basic sectors like the judiciary and law enforcement? If you believe that, then you're stupid and naive. Every government in the world has the money to do that, because these are the absolute foundations of any power, otherwise it would be very easy to overthrow those who possess it. Fuck me, they collect taxes and they say they have no money

It's more likely that the philipino government is corrupt, lazy, disorganized and doesn't want to take action and thus puts the burden on the people

As I said. Once you allow people to use violence somewhat freely, they might decide that other issues irritate them as well and this can get out of control

Assad is a Putin lemming so he was covered and yes I do hate him. Death to Assad.

> shoot person
> sprinkle the guy with drugs
> call the cops
> ???
> profit
I'm glad that this extrajudicial killings mostly happens on poo-in-loo-esque ghetto hoods in the Philippines.

Based Duerte.

also note that, during the height of the campaign season, a Chinese aircraft was parked in Davao's airport. Duterte has also admitted to receiving money from some Chinese businessmen, the identity of which he has been very evasive about.

and you really can't put all the blame on yasay for his chinese ass-kissing. his mandate came from duterte himself. it's dangerously naive to think that the secretary of foreign affairs can make statements like yasay made without the backing of the president.

duterte has also said that yasay has his full support after all the flack that yasay got for kissing china's ass

Afghanistan is more than just an exporter, although that is the only part most people care about.

The similarity is a colonial narco-state being enforced on the populace.

youtu.be/6psfGxfc4lg

Rich neighborhoods has a revised SOP

>The police has orders to shoot to kill.
Only against drug pushers & drug cartel members who shoot at police or refuse to surrender while armed

>He repeatedly give foreign powers the finger and tells them to fuck themselves when they criticize this, including king obongo
Because the whole world is now a soft libertarian society which consents with criminals by giving them rights which they obviously abuse & exploit

...

Its actually meant disarm but they just shoot them dead anyway

I rather see news like this instead of 10-year old children getting raped by their addict fathers or drug addicts raping their own grandmothers

Is King Obongo some sort of professional wrestler??

If the philippines doesn't export drug and hooker tourism, what will they export?

im waiting for you guys to admit that every single person in government is corrupt.

every single person. all of them.

so the character assasination is a farce.

some flips i know here tell me court judges store money as cash, inrecorded.

why are you all so easily bribed, that it is literally in your bloodcells.

you cant fix that, unless ypu are removed from your own culture, and that is not possible.

there is no such thing as due diligence in philippines.

it has not been "invented" in philippines and so cannot be enacted.

Will I get shot as a tourist?

So the implication is the investigation is nothing but a circus where is De Lima ends up in a literal cage? What's with this cynic bullshit? I'm glad the people and the government don't buy to this black prop narrative. Unless you have a proof solidifying the narrative, I'm inclined to believe that De Lima is a traditional slimeball who made tons of moolah from allowing the lords and professional robbers live a lifestyle barely available to the middle class Filipinos.

Literally no one cares other than militarists and yellowfags care about the Duterte's Chinese connection. Your allies in the media made no big deal about this. Why should we?

only if you dont bribe. $$$$$

Of course that's how it's going to be framed. If he manages to throw out the old rotten corrupt political class, the world press is going to go bonkers about "political purges" and "consolidating a dictatorship."

Allegedly

Isnt there 3000 killed by now

>a size of druggos surrendering as population of a big city surrendered to turn their useless lives around
>ALL WE CARE IS ABOUT HOW THOSE POOR INNOCENT FUTURE DOCTORS IN THE LOW THOUSANDS ARE BEING KILLED

Liberal logic folks!

Is Trump a "putin lemming" too? Do you advocate his death too? You realize Trump sides with SAA, right?

Someone who just wants to get rid of drugs and clean the country up for the next generation. Doesn't seem like he is gonna be a dictator when he always mentions he is too old and that he might not last six years in the office since he knows his gonna be popped by his enemies.

I partly believe him because he fails every time trying to read his speeches and goes on ranting.

THe only reason they wanted him gone was because he threatened US access to the Suez, him being a drug lord had little to do with it

>tfw they're inside a maximum security prison and they're earning $60,000 to $100,000 a month using only their mobile phones and living like kings, while you're a free man but still just a NEET after all these years

Yeah, Duterte's sidekick said, in an interview with CNN, that it's not going to be a permanent thing.

>He's a very peaceful man. And, ma'am, may I just communicate this to our friends in Europe and the U.S.

>This is not going to be the norm because President Duterte is a reset button. It is an offensive against the drug lords. It is a clean up process. And once everything stabilizes and we can put more money on CCTVs, on drug labs, on crime labs, on paying the police more, on professionalizing all aspects of our governance, you will have the more European or U.S.-type of law enforcement that you want.

>These self-vigilante killings wherein people are being paid, ma'am -- this is the drug lords cleaning up their own act so that they won't be brought to court.

Wed don't have solid narrivte with delima either
She's not on trial BTW they can name drop her and duterte but there are still charge

If we let go of our soverinty like that then we might as well separate

I would take that figure with a huge grain of salt. The media is blatantly reporting victims of the drug cartels murdered for "snitching" or moving in on new territory as victims of "Duterte's war." it's the same shit as when terrorists murder an aid convoy in Syria and then report it was an airstrike, the corrupt bought off media will howl about "brutal Assad."

>Cucks are self hating masochistics who willfully inflict suffering onto themselves.

Who would have guessed?

So it could be more then

His methods are extreme, but you can't simply allow drug cartels to take over the country. Maybe he's the savior that prevented Philippines becoming like Mexico, but he has to be careful now, this can go any way now. Time to secure the country, establish well-organized order for future to come. Definitely a man who dances on line, only future will tell if he was successful.

I doubt it. Cynical pro-oligarchy alarmists and their liberal flunkies are lumping all the deaths together to make Duterte look as bloody and brutal as possible.

The police might not record the ejk as a crime

oh what the hell, every foreign news about him is either exaggerated or misinterpreted. he's not an evil dictator wtf

Still no charges*

He is an idiot who will fuck his cojntry if war breaks out in the Pacific because China doesnt give a rats ass about neutrality

>Syrian Arab Republic born 1963
>Russian Federation born 1991
>Syrian government are Russian Federation stooges

Just like people were saying Vietnam, Cuba and DPRK were Soviet puppets that wouldn't last beyond 1991...

Though as someone originally living in the south where most moros are concentrated, I really hope that he will put an end to the 47 year old conflict.

Everyone in the south is just sick of it and everyone here in mindanao share the sentiment of wanting to tame the commies and muslims thorugh a socio economic reform.

>going to go

Mate, it already has started here and it would soon be on international stage. University communist faggots already mobilized and likened the whole ordeal to Le Martial Law. Glad nobody gives a shit because the only ones who are scared are the corrupt and the dirty elites.

Why even live mate? I should have done drugs and robbed people 2 decades ago.

De Lima's partners in crime are already selling her out. Like all of them. But hey, if she's not as guilty as the yellows imply and you believe, she's not going to jail. La Hudikatura is still held by the past administration. Whoopdeefuckingdoo still a good ending for their party after all.

Nothing has happened yet. Our sovereignty will be upheld like how Benigno did. It's just we're moving away from a century old partnership that brought us nothing but second hand war machines. There are no signs of the Philippines leading to being a Chinese cuckshed. This fucking scaremongering drivel must have come from Philippine Defense Forces Forum. If you're right, nothing changes. Chinks still got the islands. If I'm right, nothing changes. We got a Russian-supplied army and the fucking Chicoms still got our islands.

This is what Duterte is trying to bring in Mindanao and faggots are saying he's pro-Muzzie or Commie. Do these idiots know the alternative is to make them live in the sea or genocide?

Gee let me think...how would I feel about giving others the power to murder me at-will without the need for evidence or trial.

Hmm.

Can't say I favor these circumstances.

If Philippines didn't had such international cum slurping politicians in past this wouldn't need to go into extremes it goes now. It always takes a lot of failed politicians that things erupt into civil war or state as Philippines is in today that needs extreme measures. Perfect example Africa. I wonder what will come after Merkel's legacy is done.

Cleaning up that place lemme tell you folks

But seriously, hes going to single handily bring that country to the first world. I love the guy. Cleaning house of all the corruption and making the government scared of the people, as it should be. Hes also getting rid of the drug niggers that ruined the population and turned a lot of people into human slag.

His methods are heavy handed, but I'm not one to judge how another country should handle its business domestically. Cheers to this guy.

The left hates him too, just a bonus.

Checked. Damn right, Satan.

Everyone who BTFOs murka is good in my book

If you want ressolution then give the Muslims their land and kingdom back

Most people out of mindanao won't understand they experience it at the first hand.

Especially if you live in baryo's where commies and muslim rebels comes monthly in order to collect 'revolutionary taxes' to fund their agendas and not to mention that we are forced to hand sacks of rice to them.

Honestly its quite good that the NPA rarely comes home in the baryo where I used to live and now even the small time muslims don't because they think that Duterte will bring BBL to fruition and they can finally get back to their land.

Because even from a "populist demagogue" perspective, standing against China is a perfect avenue to score public sentiment points by drumming up xenophobic nationalism.

It seems like Duterte wants to pivot towards "American Imperialists" as the xenophobic target of choice, but it's going to be much harder to make it just the Americans, while courting the Chinese, as opposed to just the Chinese.

What's that? Give them the sudentenland and they'll be sated? Okay!

Because the Muslims wants separation and for the Christians to get out of their land

Commies varries some want the same thing some just want the profit to be those alone

I like his style.

I wish he lived in WWII to call Rosevely, Churchill Hitler and Stalin sons of whores

He is the current day Pablo Escobar.

Didn't Roosevelt do the same shit to gangsters back in the day?

No, they want the ARMM to be a sharia state.
They know they can't make the christians get out since they are many armed christians waiting for them to bare their fangs.

For the commies they want the liguasan marsh to be theirs and have control of the untapped mineral deposits around balingasag and jasaan.

Everyone here knows their shit already since people here are 'activist' that climbs the mountain every third week to report.

nice to see a leader with some balls for once - after 8 years I forgot what they looked like

ARMM is already a sharia state but only applies to Muslim
They want their kingdom back

Even some of the relatives of kiram Dosent want Sabah back but.just wants to establish their own republic

Mate, we still own lands in the south particularly Zambo. My relatives also know the feeling of being sieged by the Moors once in a while. Anything that can be done to make these crybaby terrorists shut up without giving up government control is good in my book.

It wouldn't be an issue if King Nigger (May putangina be upon him) wasn't going to try to persuade the drug and crime war in a nauseating Disney-themed peaceful resolution. That started it. That faggot has stepped one too many toes in all continents. That serves him right. We have every right to be mad.

Courting the Chinese? All Duterte said is we're going to talk to them instead of trying to whack them or mulling to buy weapons from them. Despite of what militarists believe we aren't going to let go of what's left of the Kalayaan. I'll bring myself over to that side if Duterte gives up anything west of Palawan. But until then, the scaremongering is laughable and moot.

Hey if they aren't the rightful heirs then they should STFU. Jamalul III and Jacel identify to be Filipinos and want Sabah to be in Filipino control.

>3,000 killed (vigilante killings + legit police operations)

Let's break the number down:

>1,500 killed due to legit police operations wherein the victims shoot at the police
>1,500 killed due to drug peddlers killing each other to cover their asses (these are the ones wtih cardboard signs)

>16,000 arrested, all ALIVE, because they didn't fight back at the police

Compare 1,500 vs 16,000. Why focus on the small number?

>700,000 surrerndered, also all alive.

So that's 700K + 16K all alive, compared to 1,500 dead for good reason (they shoot at the police). and Another 1,500 druggies vs druggies deaths in which Duterte had nothing to do with.

Not bad. I see no human rights violations.

Not to mention how many lives were saved by either killing or capturing those people.

Wtf? I hate rodrigo roa now.

A million is a statistic my ass. There's talk in other asian countries that duterte is commiting genocide, so maybe the breakdown of information can explain why people are suddenly browning their pants.

Its still in question about the police

bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-09-13/duterte-courts-china-for-weapons-ends-joint-patrols-with-u-s

this is bizarre. So you no longer want to patrol the "South China Sea" with the help of the US because you're afraid of offending China? And even though you said to GTFO of the Phils, especially Mindanao, it's not "set in stone policy".

You're not negotiating over a used car. This is international politics. You can't neg your way into a sweeter deal by "pretending" to cozy up with the competitors. This fucking guy.

Nobody cared about the Philippines before he came into power. Nobody cared about the epidemic crime and drug trafficking. Everybody was content to just put it out of their minds and say "lol it's just how SEA is".

Then Duterte came along and started effecting real change. Corrupt officials are being brought up on charges. Drug users are turning themselves in for rehab. Even the citizenry are rising up and cleaning up their streets in many cases. And now that the Philippines are poised to eradicate their drug problems, suddenly the UN, the west and all the globalists are lining up to tell Duterte that what he is doing is wrong, blaming hos administration for deaths caused by vigilantes when the amount of people actually killed by police action are about a quarter of the total deaths since the start of his campaign to make the Philippines better.

To recap: the UN, the West and all their globalist cronies were fine with the Philippines beomg a cesspool until they found somebody willing to do what was necessary to fight back against the corruption. Now that the Philippines are showing that small countries can effect real change without gibsmedats or foreign intervention, the might of the globalist machine is being brought forth to make sure other nations don't get the same idea.

Really makes you think, huh?

newsinfo.inquirer.net/817552/obama-hits-at-populist-strongmen-in-last-un-address

It the china thing the human rights violations are just a bonus for them

If we fall a lot of trade routes passing the west Phil sea will be fucked

>america having the philippines' back until we actually start to grow a backbone, then they are giving us shit for trying to change before the assassination attempts inevitably roll in
...Shit, you might be right.

The human rights violations were criticized well before Duterte sstarted playing the US and China against each other, if I recall correctly

Please, enough of that shit.

Fuck Duterte, bro. The 1,500 genetically dead ends could have all been doctors or engineers. And who's going to pay to feed and keep all those surrender monkeys! Not my fucking tax. :^)

Right, right so the course is to bait them and have them shoot at us while the United States does nothing to not instigate a nuclear war while the whole nation is butthurt never before seen since Maguindanao then go cry fruitlessly in UN. Of course, how did the rest of the nation miss that? But of course, the past admin tried that. Literally nothing changed.

TLDR This isn't about fucking sucking up to China. This is about keeping away foreign powers on how we resolve the longstanding internal issue of the Philippines. If that's how you paint the picture be my guest. But at this point in time, that isn't right and neither am I but I'm gladly betting all these scaremongering is nothing more than a small little platform to stand on for the 2022 elections. So small that even the contrasting media wouldn't even play. LMAO

>To recap: the UN, the West and all their globalist cronies were fine with the Philippines beomg a cesspool until they found somebody willing to do what was necessary to fight back against the corruption. Now that the Philippines are showing that small countries can effect real change without gibsmedats or foreign intervention, the might of the globalist machine is being brought forth to make sure other nations don't get the same idea.

Fucking yes. Upvoted friend.

The Filipino security apparatus, both army and police are undermanned and poorly equipped, and need all the help they can get. IF he thinks that he play off the US vs China, he is seriously misguided by kicking couple of Special Force advisors who's job has nothing to do with countering China, and everything to do with terrorism. Its like a crazy man threatening to jump off a bridge, the Americans will only say "Jump"

The chhinese problem was way before that

US has a better economy at the moment and the foreseeable future. China is in a bubble and foreign as well as local investment are going out of their country.

US gives millions of dollars every year for aid, not to mention military expertise and equipment. China doesn't give shit.

China want's our land and is a pseudo communist state at this point.

Duterte Logic: Fuck it I'm going with China

He doesn't wantjoint patrolling because he doesn't want to offend china
Patrolling that we actually need

The past admin did I negotiate but the conditions were not fair so they went to court

The past admin also was a successful in the mild and mnlf cease fire except for abus

based as fuck

>US has a better economy at the moment and the foreseeable future. China is in a bubble and foreign as well as local investment are going out of their country.

True but to be lapdogs and do anything what they say just because that's not how it's done over there is over the top. American investments in the country wouldn't go away just as they didn't in China.

>US gives millions of dollars every year for aid, not to mention military expertise and equipment. China doesn't give shit.China want's our land and is a pseudo communist state at this point.>Duterte Logic: Fuck it I'm going with China

Not one word about sucking up to China other than mulling (keyword) buying arms from them and stopping instigating the seas have been said that will renege those claims to our islands.

>The past admin did I negotiate but the conditions were not fair so they went to court
Which I've said earlier, did absolutely nothing. Even called it before and laughed when we """"won"""" in The Hague.

>He doesn't wantjoint patrolling because he doesn't want to offend china. Patrolling that we actually need
Already said provoking at this point isn't working. Why not talk to them? If that doesn't suit you there's literally no way talking you out of this. Unless there's a 50K-strong team that wants to initiate a Bay of Pigs style recapturing those isles, which again is will not work, what other ways are there to be had? You know what works? An economic blockade. A blockade that has been used on Russia. But even everyone's superhero USA aren't even dreaming of doing.

>The past admin also was a successful in the mild and mnlf cease fire except for abus
So is today's admin friend. No Maguindanao part 2 yet. I guess that makes Duterte's policies work and annoys the hell out of the yellows.

Point is, literally nothing that is offensive to China is going to work. So the government is talking to them like they do with Moros and Commies. If there is one thing that every Filipino is setting their sights upon, it's Sabah. It's quite the living space with large resources. It's laughable that we keep going in circles with this and we're not even addressing the elephant in the room.

Patrolling is not provoking that's actually what we need the most lots of countries do that

Pinoy fried for the Americans is on the way again

He'll be turned into picadillo like your ex-prasident Trujillo.

Yes but do those countries patrol in the most hotly contested seas in the planet? Did you know that we don't have a single antiship missile to scare them off? Will America risk a nuclear and economic war with the chinks for the little uninhabited isles that is thousands of miles from them?

gmanetwork.com/news/story/568123/news/nation/bilateral-talks-with-china-over-sea-row-necessary-incoming-dfa-chief-yasay

It means we won't get a good and fair 50-50 deal with them. It would be something like 80-20 in favor of China. In other words, they will get most of the islands.

China has too much military and economic leverage so we can't expect 50-50 outcomes during bilateral talks.

We a have every right to since the hauge plus we also have the 12km default and more than that now

Don't get me wrong but I wholeheartedly agree with you but again do we have what it takes to take the Chinese out? If the Chinks sink our ships, will the UN do something more than a "deeply concerned" statement after that happens. Will the Americans send their boys to fight for us?

>after 8 years

Try more like 150 years Mr. Bluepill

This

Best thing to come out of the Phillipines.

That's why we need joint patrolling
With the US and we also have that military treathy with them

Japan patrols their waters all the time and theres no war yet

Except it is nothing like jumping off a bridge. Closer relations with China will be on a "win-win" basis. Simply put, it's good to be friends with China if you are interested in developing and modernizing your country in an all-around way, not just being a corrupt USA military-intelligence narco colony like you have since the Cold War came to Asia.

he seems like a really cool guy

You know to us Filipinos, Americans, and the westerners, the patrols aren't an act of war or provocation. But that doesn't matter. It is to China. They will sink ships because they think it is theirs to hold. That future battlefield will be become China vs just the Filipinos and a plethora of international condemnation that will amount to nothing.

Japan doesn't have a territorial dispute the scale of Kalayaan with China. Senkaku islands are disputed by Taipei which is oddly backed by Beijing. Territorial disputes are cancers to diplomacy. They don't have that so they're cool. Japs and Koreans though, they have that.

Or we can try to modernize on our own with the resources that they claim
Who knows maybe we won't need America in the future,
Its also a matter of sovereignty that we have to give up for that so called win win

They do it as well all the time with water cannons even Vietnam

Yet no war has begun

globalnation.inquirer.net/100728/what-did-erap-and-gma-promise-china

And we also have this shit to contend with

We are on our way to buying arms from Russia. From China? Not so much.

globalnation.inquirer.net/145229/duterte-ordered-window-shopping-weapons-china-visaya

Baby steps, mijos. Soft speaking diplomacy today. War tomorrow. :^)

And to us too. Yet not a peep from our allied navies even today. I thought they're going to back us??? In the end, it's still going to be Filipinos for Filipinos. Again, diplomacy today, war tomorrow.

Past admins fault. Not Duterte's. As much as some would want people to believe. Good for Aquino for revoking their selfish promises. Good for Duterte trying to 4D chess his way out of this military hellhole.

USA fear/belligerence towards China is what gives Philippines leverage to work out a fair relationship with China, if you think about it.

Would China rather cooperate with the Philippines or have them be a nagging little pawn of the Americans? Obviously the first choice, so they are motivated to strike a deal that the Philippines will be happy to accept.

I look forward to your growing military and economic pro-people coordination with China and Russia. I wish my own country could follow such a reasonable path.

LMAO I know Filipinos are the most powerful race on the planet, but it requires constructive partnerships to develop a modernized country. By virtue of geography your country is locked into a struggle between two superpowers. To not take advantage of that and forge a relationship with one of them who has a self-interest in the modernization of your economy would be totally idiotic and shameful.

He's a good National Socialist and I admire him.

You're retarded so it makes sense.

Guess what? A nation without drug addicts = no need for rehab. Boom, case closed.

No peeps because
gmanetwork.com/news/story/581218/news/nation/duterte-no-longer-wants-to-join-expeditions-of-patrolling-seas

Them working with us means we have to give up our claim and sovereignty

That's why we went to court

What is your point here friend? Haven't read that before until now and upon peeking the link he's saying what already what I was saying all along.

>he doesn't want to do anything that China perceives as a military threat because we don't want needless coffins and sharkfood and without military help from other nations

What a smart man.

>Them working with us means we have to give up our claim and sovereignty

Common PDFF drivel that has no evidence that will turn out this way.

>That's why we went to court

And surprise, surprise. The bully didn't give a shit. Can we try talking to them now?

There is no need to amp up the rhetoric, friend. China is not interested in claiming Filipino sovereignty, not is the opposite true. What we have here is a dispute about overlapping claims, which is nothing that cannot be solved by the magic of bilateral talks based on mutual respect and continued trust-building practices between the two parties :)

Its one of the conditon of china
The link is in Chinese.
We did and still the same outcome

The Chinese Ministry of Foreign Affairs has laid out a number of conditions, including the one you mentioned, which is very important:

Quote:

"The concept of "setting aside dispute and pursuing joint development" has the following four elements:

-- 1. The sovereignty of the territories concerned belongs to China.

-- 2. When conditions are not ripe to bring about a thorough solution to territorial dispute, discussion on the issue of sovereignty may be postponed so that the dispute is set aside. To set aside dispute does not mean giving up sovereignty. It is just to leave the dispute aside for the time being.

-- 3. The territories under dispute may be developed in a joint way.

-- 4. The purpose of joint development is to enhance mutual understanding through cooperation and create conditions for the eventual resolution of territorial ownership."

fmprc.gov.cn/mfa_eng/ziliao_665539/3602_665543/3604_665547/t18023.shtml

As you pointed out, the first condition in the concept of "Set aside dispute and pursue joint development" enunciated by China is that the "sovereignty of the territories concerned belongs to China."

If the Philippines agrees to this concept and these conditions, then we would be agreeing that sovereignty over the disputed islands already belongs to China.

Patrolling is not provoking its defending ourselves

That's why talking isn't just some talk over a shitty coffee table. They'll listen to what we want.

We'll talk and see what happens. If not, patrols will continue and we'll be an asshole like China does.

globalnation.inquirer.net/145192/duterte-changes-tune-need-us#ixzz4Kr1wbzD2

Yeah but it doesn't matter because they think we do. And they have ample firepower to sink our entire fleet with just their small shitty missile patrol boats that are way way smaller than our Hamilton-class CG ships. Still not noticing the trend what I'm trying to convey? OK then. :D

No, it would be setting aside the dispute. Of course China is not going to announce they are relinquishing their claims. And that formula does NOT require the Philippines to relinquish its claims either. Setting aside is setting aside. Both of the countries can continue to assert their sovereignty over the claimed territory, but if they are putting the issue aside to pursue joint development then it is of no practical significance. This is what respectful cooperation and trust-building looks like :)

>He repeatedly give foreign powers the finger and tells them to fuck themselves when they criticize this, including king obongo

He won't last long and his regime has been a total disaster.

That's why we need joint patrolling with the US

Its already stated In the first condition

They already give their conditions

>has been a total disaster.
Yeah, disaster for them drug users. As far as I know, he's the only president in the last hundred years in the Philippines that did not act like a pussy and be everyone's puppet.

>he's the only president in the last hundred years in the Philippines that did not act like a pussy and be everyone's puppet.
>let me tell you about your own country

And that's why I'm saying it's not working and will never. Patrols aren't going to get back those isles. Instead you provoke war that wouldn't have a Washington backing. Literally lose-lose situation.

Conditions that can be repealed because we aren't total dickheads right now who want to talk.
All can be

find me proof against that, and I'll believe you

Protip: You can't

>He won't last long.
His been saying that himself. He doesn't give a shit about others than Philippines and does what campaigned for.

Rid the drugs and cleanse the country as a reset button.
Tame the rebels in the south
And make federalism happen

He only wants that shit done since he acknowledges that there is a lot that is gonna take his head and besides he didn't ask for this...he said it himself, he could be finishing his books and playing with his grand children and chilling but the people wanted him to run and so he did.

Why are you being such a hard-head? It is a *territorial dispute about overlapping claims* That's not news! Why are you so intent on getting hung up forever on Square One?

Here is how the Philippines can counter-claim:

1: The sovereignty of the territory claimed belongs to the Philippines.

2: The dispute can be set aside. To set aside does not mean giving up sovereignty.

3: The territories under dispute may be developed in a joint way.

4: Additional conditions based on negotiation

5: The purpose of joint develop,end is to enhance mutual understanding through cooperation and create the conditions for the eventual resolution of territorial ownership.

*shake hands*

It's clear Duterte supports China, but he sucks at hiding it. He says all these things about China being this, being that, being invaders, about them bringing drugs in (but he can't seem to locate Peter Lim), but he does not do anything that would damage China's reputation outside of the country or would impede China in their decision to own Scarborough Shoal. Duterte sucks at the whole bread and circuses shtick. If he doesn't want to make it obvious he loves China and he'd want for us to be a Chinese vassal state of sorts, he has to try harder.

Is he doing anything to curb the growth of the Muzzy population?

We live in the best timeline

That's whats already been set with all the cock sucking duterte did

We need multilateral talks in order to prevent this china Doesnt want to

>Why are you being such a hard-head? It is a *territorial dispute about overlapping claims* That's not news! Why are you so intent on getting hung up forever on Square One?

That's just how militarists are. I mean I am one but I, like Duterte, can identify who's strong and weak. Hiding behind the US won't work at all now. 60 years ago it would mean something. Anyway, this is just one of 2 of our territorial dispute and Filipinos don't know shit how to deal with one. Not saying I do but talking can at least lead to something.

Its very sneaky
Once we negotiate and question it they will go to condition one to nullify it

Google Gloria Macapagal-Arroyo, Joseph Estrada and Ferdinand Marcos. I also don't need to remind you that we are the only US ally who has evicted US forces out of our country under a "puppet" pro-US administration.

In Duterte's own words, don't lecture me on my own country's history Bruce because I don't give a fuck about yours. You can call us American puppets but your country is no better puppet than us.

He's adding water to the flame not fire. The Philippines can't fight China head on, even with the US, or any other countries' support, there are gonna be huge amounts of death tolls if war breaks out. He's just postponing the territorial disputes and hope that everyone forgets about it and revert back to normal. He knows what he's doing and he's trying his best to avert disaster.

If we didnt close down subic bay we would have a better chance

I knew I loved PacMan.

>Gloria Macapagal-Arroyo, Joseph Estrada and Ferdinand Marcos
LOL is that the best you've got? They're all corrupt fucks. Especially that Ferdinand Marcos guy is the reason why the Philippines is a shithole, the country's GDP drastically went down since his administration.

>China doesn't want to

But they do. If they don't then patrols will continue. What's the harm in trying? USA have their hands tied and we're literally sailing world war 2 era ships out there.

>He's adding water to the flame not fire. The Philippines can't fight China head on

Oh diyos ko, finally someone who can understand. We don't have the balls to reclaim Sabah from the Malaysians. We sure as hell don't have the armaments to retake those isles from the bully China.

Doesn't mean anything now. I would love for the Americans to stay as they were a real deterrent but Cory COJUANGCO (always a fucking COJUANGCO fucking everything up) have something else in mind.

We are not fighting we just need to patrol
If we forget it china alrdy wins

And if that actually happens you can get a new government and go run and cry to your US factors clutching your Hague ruling. But until then it makes no sense to presume your counterparts are negotiating in bad faith. It is simply impossible to proceed in a constructive manner from that point.

muslims are still a minority here and most us are christians or form separate branches of the church.

Still, he is trying to end the muslim conflict on the south and try to pander them to calm down and if they don't then like what happen to one of the groups who refused, get their asses caged and hunted down in their island while denying them from escaping.

best part is that the archbishop in the island even personally blessed the army to annihilate them.

Carrillo would be proud.

>We are not fighting we just need to patrol
and you want to do that while we are still having bilateral talks towards them and risk aggression?

You joint patrol overlapping EEZs (that is why you make alliances with neighbors) and monitor your own non-overlapping EEZ to safeguard your exclusive righhts there. He doesn't want to do either. What insane country would waste resources patrolling non-territorial high seas? When did PH even have the resorces to do that when we can't even patrol close to shore efficiently? Everyone is obviously talking about areas they have (exclusive) rights to.

If a squatter steals your land and you're proving ownership to get it back, do you think it's a wise move to babble "well, whether it's owned by me or this squatter, I will file a case". He is weakenng our country's stand.
It was wrap and Gloria that closed down subic bay probably sold it to the Chinese

*benefactors

Do you really think this is just about China vs Philippines fighting over some small islands and mineral deposits? I can assure that is not why this is world news that people give a fuck about all of a sudden.

Then it will be pointless to negotiate with them might as well defend what we have left

Moving goalposts? You asked for former Presidents who never bowed to America on a whim and I gave you a short list.

All of them are corrupt, its a badge of honor for politicians.

Learn your history, Cory was against the closing of Subic and it was these senators who voted to terminate American presence in our country while our own military is in total shambles and disarray due to the lack of mutual trust that was broken during the Martial Law years.

Agapito "Butz" Aquino
Joseph Estrada
Teofisto Guingona Jr
Sotero Laurel II
Ernesto Maceda Jr
Orlando Mercado
Aquilino Pimentel Jr
Rene Saguisag
Jovito Salonga
Wigberto Tañada
Victor Ziga
Juan Ponce Enrile

Bilateral talks is a bad idea since they have more of the advantage
A multilateral one is better

Yeah that's why their conditions should be rejected all of us have our own EEZ to protect

That is the problem really...do you think china gives a shit?

No they don't.

If we want a non aggression deal by having a bouncer besides us trying to strong arm them then forget it.

We have to do it ourselves and not with anyone in their back and talk them and deal the problem with just the two nations.

Duterte was the Philippines' only hope of developing out of being a 3rd world shithole. The previous presidents were all corrupt shits, they'd either take all the money for themselves or be a puppet of another country. It's true that China is corrupt but they lifted millions out of poverty by being strict as. Duterte is trying to do the same thing but he's doing a balancing act of giving people freedom, but at the same time, not being a communist tyrant.

They are willing to set aside the territorial dispute and work out a temporary arrangement based on cooperation and joint development. To me that sounds much better than going to the brink of suicide over a tiny bunch of Islands. Talk about threatening to jump off a bridge.

>Uncle Sam grinning and rubbing his hands together

Also what this guys said We are not the only one at stake here multilateral talks can add more pressure

Only if we give up our claim right form the start

>muh sovereignty
>NO bilateral talks, USA-approved multilateral talks only

This does not add up.

China lifted millions out of poverty by making Nikes and Iphones for less than a dollar.

It had nothing to do with being "strict" and "disciplined", mainlanders are still monkeys even amongst their own Chinese cousins and brethren.

You are quite naive and do not deserve another reply if you actually believe that Duterte is """infallible""" and non-corrupt.

the fuck is some housebred nigger gonna do bout it. sheeit nigga cant even keep muricas deficit under control

You keep asserting this but it is not based on anything but your warped interpretation of the conditions. Nowhere is anything said about anyone having to give up sovereignty. All you want to do is reiterate the dispute over and over again. Thankfully Duterte is more practical than this.

If China wasn't in control, it would've been the destruction of them. Their government is even forcing people out of their own homes so that they make China a much better place. Duterte could do the same thing with your slums as well, but the thing is, he's a kind person at heart and would never do that unless if there's a really good reason to do so. Not in anyway Duterte would ever be corrupt, he did so many things that your government should've done a long time ago. He's a prime example of what a proper leader should be.

They obviously don't want the US involved or the others since they will loose their advantage
We won the case fair and square

The USA is not claminng our islands

ThisDont know if duterte rejected itf too

>unilateral claim before the (((ICC)))
>fair and square

There's no point in engaging this belligerent nonsense any longer. Thankfully Filipinos had enough of this small-minded USA pawn mentality and put in someone more practical.

But drug lords are like 1 in 1000 inmates or something? It's not really a problem that needs to be solved

Hey look guys, he's crying! He's crying hard!
Point, Point at him and laugh! Kek

Oh god. Carrillo. Fucking Limon, man. :'(

>>If a squatter steals your land and you're proving ownership to get it back, do you think it's a wise move to babble "well, whether it's owned by me or this squatter, I will file a case"

LMAO the Filipino way is to beat up these squatters and shit on them while we're at it. I don't think this analogy works well against a bully with a respectable blue water navy, huge amount of anti ship missiles, and nukes. Hence, talking to them without vilifying them. You don't have to believe it. You just have to fake it.

>He is weakenng our country's stand.
Based on opinions and speculations, of course. Let's wait for Duterte to sell out Pagasa first before anything saying anything else. The country will lynch him guaranteed.

Still her fault though. She wasn't keen on keeping nukes on our soil and she refused to delay even more of the American withdrawal. A 3 year delay could have meant a new deal in place that would extend their stay even more. Any idiot president could have done that right.

That's why we need multilateral talks

And the Hague ruling covers ASEAN too

>1 post by this ID

Did your boyfriend called you here too? Quite a party here now.

The only reason you don't like Putin is because of scary headlines.

youtu.be/Hl_VvgpwNM he's quite calm and reasonable when he responds to the "true madman" Zhirinovsky. Putin is far more liberal than some of the people who seek power in Russia that would be 100x more aggressive.

>Still her fault
How?

She had no control over the entire issue and any deviation would be a violation of the new Constitution...something she fought against.

So we ask the Americans to pay up more to "defend" us, they say no thank you, the Senate gave them the boot and we lose Mischief Reef in 1995.

Squatters can fightback even more so

But you have to agree that he really is partial towards China vis a vis the US. He really leans towards China judging by his statements and actions. And obviously he received electoral support from China judging by the visit of Chinese officials to Davao before he was elected. I'm pretty sure now that he leans that way.

Us already want to help with joint patrolling yet still he rejects

The american withdrwal was in clak since it was destroyed by thee volcano

Subic base was still occupied and fucntional nukeor not

Can't Mute the Dute!

A legit Communist. He will sell out his country to the Chinese sooner or later.

At least he's killing Muslims and junkies.

>killing Muslims
(lol

Someone did not read the memo.

You really need to stop suffering under the illusion that US leaders who don't even give a fuck about their own people actually give a shit about Filipinos either. They only care about your country inasmuch as you are useful as a thorn in China's side. That means they don't want a constructive solution one way or the other, just endless dive-and-rule shenanigans in Asia.

>the Suez

The Suez Canal is in Egypt, famalam.

The Panama Canal is in Panama.

shill

>What is Cred Forumss verdict on this guy?
He will get his country sacked by China. That's all.

indeed

He actually likes Muslims I believe

Thank you for correcting the record

>He will get his country sacked by China
That's what he actually wants.

His "independent" policy is just a code word for "Fuck the USA, welcome China".

Based Duterte. There's a filthy terrorist breeding islamic area in the Philippines called Mindanao, he should target those allahniggers once the drug dealer purge is complete.

We don't but in this case since its bigger than us they will other countires can join to like Japanese or korea

China doesn't care either as proven by their action which is more dangerous

BLM would go fucking apeshit.

Wtf I (seriously) hate Duterte now!

My aunt's family is from Mindanao. They're all Catholic doctors, though.

He's already working with the Communists within his own country. I see no reason he wouldn't be comfortable working with China's.

He paid 100 million pesos (2 million dollarydoos) to the terrorist group who kidnapped the Canadians and Norwegian and the Muslim separatist group who "urged" these terrorists to "release" them in "good faith".

no, he doesn't

independent.co.uk/news/world/asia/philippines-president-rodrigo-duterte-ordered-death-squads-bomb-mosques-kill-muslims-political-a7308951.html

also fighting Muslim organizations like Abu Sayyaf, Rajah Sulaiman Movement, Khalifa Islamiyah Mindanao, Jemaah Islamiyah, Bangsamoro Islamic Freedom Movement - i.e. killing a lot of Muslims

Interesting how much ZioNazis hate China, isn't it?

>thread has suddenly been flooded by "1 post by this ID"

Regardless of whatever garbage you're reading in thr Western media, Duterte isn't some barbarian who became president to "kill Muslims."

youtu.be/PHhZ5PKW7rs

I've never heard of squatters sending cops in body bags anywhere. With China, it will be more. But I get the gist. Still not a good analogy though.
>But you have to agree that he really is partial towards China vis a vis the US. He really leans towards China judging by his statements and actions.

We're talking about the guy who used the jetski stunt vs China, later retracted buying stuff from China and actually not wanting the US out? I don't know. Pretty fickle guy. I don't expect him to be neither pro-West or China. But what's important is he wants to buy arms from neither faggots and wants to have peace talks.

>So we ask the Americans to pay up more to "defend" us

Saw nothing about us asking for more dollars. But what we do know is Americans have been pumping billions of dollars into the economy during her era. Not giving them more time to circumvent the faggots' repeal @ senate to stay even longer is stupid as hell. Cory could have done it but didn't because she thinks nukes are icky.

????

Duterte is based, I support him.

That's honestly a beautiful thought, I'm tired of Commie parasites and Muzzie Roaches. Only a man can dream.

Dude should be happy there's no moderate rebels in his country else they would get some free crates of weapons.

Want those squatter raids they do some form to the police too kek

The Americans stopped pumping us money after what they learned about the marcoses curropt ways around the late 80's

Nukes or not the subic base was still open and fucntional until Ramos

Watch*

fucking China's boots licker

I didn't say they "care" either, but they do have a self-interest in putting aside the territorial dispute and seeking cooperation and development that is beneficial for the Philippines.

And that window shopping is questionable

Non joint patrol is the only one confirmed

At the cost of our sovereignty and claim
It seems unlikely since they are already building there

Based on false and warped pretenses, apparently. Go back and listen to him discuss the history of Islam in the Philippines. He shares none of your zeal for "killing Muslims."

(((JEWS)))

Repeating this over and over doesn't make it more true. The document you provided yourself explicitly refutes that idea.

It actually Indicates it right form "china will help us " onlyif the territories belongs to them

This all coming from them

Honestly it is. But the minute you do that, you'll bring the world upon you lead by Obongo because multikulti is fun :DDDDD

>Want those squatter raids they do some form to the police too kek

I'm sorry I don't follow.

>The Americans stopped pumping us money after what they learned about the marcoses curropt ways around the late 80's

That's quite wrong since we received $752M just from those bases in 1991.

nytimes.com/1991/12/28/world/philippines-orders-us-to-leave-strategic-navy-base-at-subic-bay.html?pagewanted=all

>Nukes or not the subic base was still open and fucntional until Ramos

If you're implying Cory dindu nuffin wrong then...

>The eviction notice came in the form of a statement from President Corazon Aquino's top aide after the last in a series of negotiations to extend the U.S. presence at Subic Bay Naval Base broke down during a morning meeting between Aquino and U.S. Ambassador Frank Wisner. There had earlier been proposals to extend the lease for three years.

articles.latimes.com/1991-12-27/news/mn-909_1_subic-naval-base

>confirmed
philstar.com/headlines/2016/09/21/1625911/we-need-us-south-china-sea-duterte

globalnation.inquirer.net/145192/duterte-changes-tune-need-us

Not so fast, Juan. After a few days, he will say he never said to stop the patrols. ;-)

Regardless of what the Philippines say or do, China believes the territory belongs to them. And the same goes for the Philippines claim regardless of what China says or does. That simply DOES NOT CHANGE based on starting bilateral talks and setting the dispute aside. Filipino sovereignty is determined by the Philippines and Chinese sovereignty is determined by the Chinese. You have a completely irrational phobia that bilateral cooperation causes sovereignty to magically vanish.

The money was given to Cory and not Marcos
They stopped pumping around Marcos time

He will not stop it but will not be joining and since that will not happen maybe only for Vietnam

They leave but it was still open and functional
Only erap and Gloria closed it doen

That why we need to have a multilateral one

because it's difficult to have bilateral negotiations when one of the parties is so strong. The Chinese economy does not need the Philippines in order to flourish. The Chinese military already has infrastructure and military assets controlling the disputed territories, and there are limits to what other nations such as the United States can do. The Philippines is not in a position militarily to regain control of disputed territories, or even to protect local fishermen.

It's usually when the two parties are not evenly matched, that it becomes helpful to engage in multilateral negotiation, bringing other countries into the picture, which have the same interests we do. For example, there are other countries in ASEAN which also have territorial disputes with China. Japan also has similar territorial issues with China.

And we still have trops there too

Go back to Le ddit you faggot liberal

Possibly good intentions, but it may all be a ploy for an authoritarian power grab, it's been known to happen in the Philipinnes before. I don't agree with him telling our US Special Forces to leave, and I don't see what his angling is considering that China is not going to respect the Hague ruling as they continue to ramp up their militancy with their 'cabbage islands' approach in the South China Sea coupled with the modernization of their blue water naval fleets and ADIZ. I'd almost say he's in China's pocket but that's bordering on tinfoil conspiracy.

Possible noble intentions, ignoble execution of said intentions.

6/10 would maybe vote.

Nothing is going to be resolved or constructively negotiated that way, I can guarantee you. ASEAN multilateral talks are only supported by Washinton in order to further the "pivot to Asia" escalation strategy against China.

oy vey

youtu.be/K3aeWHz6Zok

Mostly likely only ASEAN members who are involved will join the, only way to have some leverage

>The money was given to Cory and not Marcos
>They stopped pumping around Marcos time

Makes no sense. This has nothing to do with what I said. The other guy said the government closed the airbase because we asked for more money. Then I said turning away the Americans' billion dollars just because you don't like nukes or you have to know the withdrawal process is idiotic. Cory is an idiot.

>He will not stop it but will not be joining and since that will not happen maybe only for Vietnam

Yes and now he's backtracking now saying we need the Americans for our claim. Did you read the links?

>They leave but it was still open and functional
Only erap and Gloria closed it doen

Now we're moving goal posts friend. You said it got closed down @ 1992 and it's not Cojuangco's fault. I said if Cory sticked to the plan and prolonged their stay which btw the Americans are counting on, gave them a notice to GTFO. Now you're saying it's Erap and Glo's fault because there were still Americans there when in fact if the Americans acquired a better deal during Cory's admin they wouldn't have to go away for good. Those 2 idiots wouldn't have to close it for as one would claim "for China!"