Tumblr has far more freedom of speech than Cred Forums

it is an echochamber in here but it's a comfy echochamber most of the time.

>Soon you will understand.

what did shx mean by this?

>we are sauron

lel, fuck you tyrone, we dont ban opinions we dont like her

Cred Forums is a libertarian board we don't believe in posts that are not an argument or violating the NAP kill yourself shitposter

noko

>Anonymity leads to more hiveminding, not less.

Fuck off you you fat nigger no it doesn't.

>echo chambers that block anyone that dissents
I dont know who is trolling who anymore

same person different proxies

If I know correctly, on tumblr everyone can create their own blog with no supervision but the creator, so they xan say whatever they want. So maybe there is more 'free speach' on tumblr if everyone makes their own blog, but who is going to read it then?

that's not a left/right issue famalam.

it's a power issue.

those in control want to keep power.
those without power want it.

I would kill you if I was given the opportunity, and it would send a wave of relief over me that you can only experience while anally stimulated by Tyrone.

How does that make you feel?

This user makes a good point

Thank you for your enlightening feedback. I find myself coming around to your way of thinking already! Please continue to help me debug my thinking. I am always looking for ways to remove errors.

I wish Jackie Cred Forums banned people who complain about moderation outside of /qa/

online there are no social repercussions, unless of course you live in an orwellian country like Britain or Germany.

the hive mind is playing all of you like piano keys you dummy

>Cred Forums is oppressing me!
>If only we were on Reddit where things I don't like are banned so that people have to read my worthless inane cookie-cutter opinion

Jesus Christ.

fuck you tranny nigger im voting for hillary and its pretty simple. she hates you more than i do. and im rich. id like to stay that way.

I'm as libertarian as the next guy but dat pic...my eyes...the trauma...

I care about you on a deep level that you will never fully appreciate.

When I say you should run a hose from the exhaust pipe of your car into a bag placed over your head I say it with all the love in the world.

Note my unfiltered sincerity.

Unless they link you to your social media accounts or your IP is leaked, etc. Any website that requires you to log in and you have a profile is at risk of compromising your anonymity, even when behind a username. There is a log of your previous activity, and therefore risk.

WTF I hate anonymity now.

But srsly fagalag.

The anonymity is for the expressed purpose of sacrificing identity for the sake of putting facts over identity.

I can claim I'm a rocketship pilot, you can claim I'm a janitor and with no way to prove otherwise it's a moot point.

Arguments here are fought with cold hard facts. Not with technicalities and (((qualifications))).

However, I really would like some legitimate opposing opinions on this board. I sometimes wish leftypol would raid us. their the only ones who could challenge our opinions on the level playing field of dank memes.

How you doing there NSA?

But we are not really anonymous here. Hiroshima can sell us to governments at any time. I'm not talking about posting cp or massage threats but what if they start come after us for racism, telling Zyklon Ben jokes or denying holocaust. Of course it depends on the entity who is asking because I don't think he would give information for example to Mugabe.

dam nigger you draw that yourself?

fucking Pablo Picasso nigga right here yall

Global meshnet when?

we? they're the swj Borg

Posting in a (you) thread.

Not having a username is not the same as not having an identity. Things are fairly homogeneous right now because everybody is trying to shitpost Cred Forums in to the news, but after election season, things will return to the norm. That norm is usually comparing and contrasting various political ideologies through a lens of mental retardation, but you'd be hard pressed to say that this place is collectivist (extenuating circumstances aside).

You have to understand that in a perfect world with benevolent people, the ideal government would be an infinitely powerful autocracy that we could simply trust would do what needed to be done. The world is bound by limits, but Cred Forums is much less so. We have lucked out with mootykins and Hiro in that they are both exerting supreme power with very little infringement upon us. I'm sure there's exceptions, but Cred Forums has a fairly good system.

The administration is entirely opaque. Members of the administration are not allowed to speak of any of its inner workings, or even acknowledge that they're involved in it. Cred Forums is not a democracy. As far as we're able to tell, Hiro is benevolent to the point where we're able to trust his decision with no knowledge of what it was or what it pertained to. All we know is that every decision has led to our current condition, which I will contend is fairly good.

For the most part, rules are consistently enforced and ignored. A good rule of thumb is that if it will get the top brass arrested, you're leaving, and if it won't, you're staying. Bans are public and we're able to anecdotally establish these trends. Nobody but the issuer (and other issuers that we don't know of) knows who issued a ban, and nobody but the poster knows who received the ban. There is no way to hinge a decision on a bias; your only identifier is an IP (that can regularly change) and bans are public, which means there must have been a rule or precedent for the ban to not raise questions in the userbase.

If you think about it, living under Saddam Hussein's regime was probably pretty badass. Build guns, make heroin, basically do whatever the fuck you want (as long as you weren't a dirty Sunni), and as long as it wasn't getting him in hot water you were good. This is Saddamland 2.0. If it's not against the law in the US, it'll probably fly. Pretty much every opinion can fly here. There is no collective to associate your argument with for validity. There is no way to identify people you agree with and stick near them. You're on your own, and just have this vague idea that there's somebody else out there, the same way you have this vague idea that there's actually a government here.

We're the ones that boldly goes where no one has gone before

lefty.booru.org/index.php?page=post&s=list
>these memes
>dank
Of course there will be no social repercussions. I don't get what you are trying to say here.

Ok, where is proofs to back your claims up?

Every soul for the Hive, and the Hive for every soul.

On the internet, power is often tied to identity-- people will respect you, or be hesitant to disagree with you if you're a well-known figure. It's the same in real life-- people force themselves to be nicer to people they're familiar with. This causes a lot of the worse actors to be insulated from criticism, and so they feel entitled to go thermonuclear at even the slightest slight.

On Cred Forums, since there are no identities, nobody has that kind of power. In fact, claiming an identity will get you attacked, so anyone who namefags better be ready to put up with some derision at least.

What lives and dies here are ideas, not identities. You can come here and promulgate your ideas as much as you want. Nobody actually stops you (unless you break the rules). They may make fun of you, they may lie to discredit your cause, but if your shit can't stand up to that what chance does it have in the real world, where the consensus perception of reality is chosen by elites and released as high holy doctrine via the media?

United States free speech laws are fair enough. You hear plenty of horror stories about hate speech laws (and there are plenty of cases of abuse of them), but short of inciting violence or conspiring to commit criminal activity, 99.99999% of the time you will not be in *legal* trouble for anything you say.

That being said, most people are pussies and can't stand a differing opinion. Your employer, friends, etc. are allowed to do whatever the fuck they want based on what you said or did, and progressive pressure encourages punishment. Some shit about "muh freedom of speech is not freedom from consequences".

On a related and funny note to the above, I find it hilarious that they so firmly believe in consequences for free speech, but go apeshit whenever a woman walking ass-naked down the street gets unwanted sexual attention. I digress.

I am lacutis of Cred Forums you are tumblrinas you will be assimilated, resistance is futile

True. Only ideas can be attacked or promoted. Cred Forums is a true free market of ideas. Identity adds barriers to entry and bubbles. Identities distort the market of ideas.

The only thing tumbler has more of is cheese pizza, kek.

YOU WILL BE ASSIMILATED, RESISTANCE IS FUTILE.

If anonymity is bad for expressing your own oppinnion, why are elections held anonymous? So that noone has to fear any punishment because of the guy who they vote no matter who wins. Now suddenly you think this will lead to everyone repeating the same stuff to belong to a bunch of autists on an anonymous north korean cropharvesting board

Thank you so much for all your love! That is a precious treasure that cannot be bought at any price. ::::)

Soon. Be patient.

The fuck back to tumblr you swarmy cuntboifag

Yes, because we don't have flags on our posts, and nationalities are just arguments and not real physical things.

That said Cred Forums can tolerate a lot of contra-arguments, but at the end of the day it has very clear trenches to go back if cornered.

Some issues aren't even discussed anymore, and board culture has given you an identity.

All consequences of your abuse of meme magic.

You can't go back to repeat the same things we said before about beign a bastion of free speech.

You are the nazi frog board now, you even have a /leftypol/ to exile dissent, your own gulag.

>visit Cred Forums
>express opinion
>all good

>visit tumblr
>express opinion
>banned

yeah sounds good

Oy vey goyim! You must sign your email here and give us your credit card.

>that's not a left/right issue famalam.

The person you are responding to isn't saying left/right in a political sense, He is referring to the literal left/right side of the OP's image.

Doubt Hiro would sell our info. He likes fun Cred Forums more than profitable Cred Forums.
I think it's the realization of how big we've become, even mainstream media will see us as a threat. He probably didn't get that with 2chan.

>Implying Identity is more important than voice.

Identity obsession is directly affecting and destroying our society and political sphere. You fucking thick skulled, purple haired mongoloid.

I'm just handing out (you)s at this point but I think it bears reacting to.

All of these "voices" you talk about, despite their new and confounding methods of self-expression, are shockingly uniform in their philosophical and argumentative style.

These unique identities are just the team uniform. They're only used to indicate your membership of some group outside of the mainstream. And in this world, anything that's abnormal, impure, anything that sets you apart from humanity, is considered sacred. And there's a pecking order too-- see, these people, being abnormal, see themselves as being oppressed by normal people. In fact, their entire worldview is based entirely on oppression-- and they even call it out among their own ranks.

See, thanks to the concept of privilege, there's not really any such a thing as equality between any two people. As long as theres something about them that makes them less oppressed than you, they are, in fact, oppressing you just by that fact. Since they have "privilege." Their pecking order is based around this.

Despite this uniformity of thought and social organization, it obviously hasn't lead to cohesion within the movement. Oh hell no-- you've got lesbians who hate men, lesbians who hate only biological men, lesbians who support trans-women, but despise trans-men for being traitors, and people who just downright hate the idea of masculinity in general. You've got asians who claim to be "POC", and actual "POC" who think that asians haven't experienced enough oppression to claim the title. You've got thousands of pronouns, you've got new terms coined for variations in sexual proclivities (honestly, how the fuck is pan-sexual different from omni-sexual again?).

The only thing that really seems to tie them all together is their hatred of white men, and traditional families. All the things that "stifle" their creativity.

>Some issues aren't even discussed anymore
What, praytell have we suppressed?

The only thing that would prevent anything from being discussed here is if it wasn't interesting.

Nah brah, you're confusing Cred Forums's consensus with a hivemind.

Our consensus was reached due to years of shitposting, and we agree on major counter-cultural lines not specific political policies which remain diverse. We have commies, natsocs, libertarians, etc.

That's the way of most revolutionary-minded groups. We put aside differences, agree on common goals and once we reach them the infighting will begin all over again and we eat our own until a new consensus is reached.

Anonymity helps in this natural process because there is no standing reputation to guard, we can state our feelings and opinions openly and adjust them based on new data whenever we wish.

Liberal namefags such as yourself have the actual hivemind, in that you are accutely aware of what you can and cannot think, as we all are to some extent, but you fear for your status as a known person and thus you constantly self-censor to keep up with the rest of your ilk.

>Thank you for your enlightening feedback
NO PROBLEMO TOVARSCHIK AMERIKANSKI :")))))))

This is really causing my neural cells to depolarize by opening gated channels in the membrane and passively diffusing potassium ions out of the cytoplasm down its concentration gradient leading to a sequence of action potentials to stimulate in accord with long term potentiation pathways developed through the release of seratonin at key moments of sensory input Edition

I completely agree. Thank you for the endowments!

So, all of the surface-level uniqueness is actually a product of institutional forces that drive everyone's behavior on a macro-level? Gosh, that's a fascinating insight. I wonder if it applies in any other situations!

I admit I am not terribly familiar with your language. Should I use "consensus" in place of "hivemind" from now on? The two concepts seem interchangeable from my limited perspective.

However, if I am a namefriend, then what is my name?

22

Which of the 100 made up gender are you tumblr op?

probably a casual AH

>majority of Cred Forums reaches the logical conclusion that authoritarianism is necessary to cleanse our society of Marxists so that we can then establish the morally ideal libertarian society, and thus supports Trump
>DUDE HIVEMIND LMAO
We're not a hivemind, thanks to anonymity, we are a free market of ideas where only the best rise to the top which is why a majority of us share the same opinion, because that opinion beat every competing opinion in the idea marketplace.