In this classic work, the Greek god Dionysus decides that Athenian tragic poetry sucks, and he has to Make Athens Great Again. Dionysus is a chaotic god of wine and grapes, and also of ritual insanity and ecstasy. He is a very Old God, worshiped at least as far back as the Mycenaeans and Minoans.
Accompanying him is his slave Xanthias, with whom he always sharing bants, and whom is on the receiving end of Dionysus' constant schemes. Dionysus dresses up in a Lion Skin to go ask his brother Hercules for advice on how to get to Hades and bring Euripides back to life, so there can be a decent poet around again.
On the way there they are accompanied by a chanting group of Frogs, who serve as the chorus of the play. The Repeating refrain of the Frogs is "Brekekekex, ko-ax, ko-ax".
So far, we have an old, chaotic god who wants to MAGA. He wears the mantle of a Lion. There is a chorus of Frogs. Their chanting evokes both Kek and Brexit. There's more.
Dionysus and Xanthias get into Hades with Charon's help. There are some folks who are mad at him, mistaking him for Hercules, and try to stump him. Dionysus isn't stumped (he keeps trading clothes with Xanthias, who is actually a total bro as he's a much harder worker and more brave than Dionysus to be honest). Dionysus reveals his true identity though, and goes further along on his journey.
Euripides is having a contest with another poet, Aeschylus, to decide who is the best tragic poet. Dionysus ends up judging. Euripides thinks his poetry is better because it is more realistic, and Aeschylus argues back that his work gives people a better model for virtue.
The two argue back and forth and Dionysus has a hard time deciding. He eventually does, though, and picks Aeschylus. He basically tells Euripides to go get rekt too, because he suggests to Hades that Sophocles should be given the empty seat at the underworld god's table instead.
Eurpides is modernity, Aeschylus is old fashioned virtue.
Benjamin Walker
Gonna quote from Wikipedia a little:
>The parodos contains a paradigmatic example of how in Greek culture obscenity could be included in celebrations related to the gods.
This is pure Cred Forums
Jason Bennett
Is that Turkish song ?
Jaxson Cruz
bro, get a fucking life. you're spending too much time on nonsenical bullshit
Alexander Powell
> He finally decides to take the poet who gives the best advice about how to save the city. Euripides gives cleverly worded but essentially meaningless answers while Aeschylus provides more practical advice, and Dionysus decides to take Aeschylus back instead of Euripides.
Levi Jones
That's funny because in a traditional dance here in Sweden we ''act'' like frogs and dance around the Christmas tree or Midsummer pole and chant the same thing
Keep in mind the play was written when Athens was getting BTFO in the Peloponnesian war. The city was in dire straits and everyone was worried about how to turn things around.
Quoting from Wikipedia again:
>Kenneth Dover claims that the underlying political theme of The Frogs is essentially “old ways good, new ways bad”.[3] He points to the parabasis for proof of this: “The antepirrhema of the parabasis (718–37) urges the citizen-body to reject the leadership of those whom it now follows, upstarts of foreign parentage (730–2), and turn back to men of known integrity who were brought up in the style of noble and wealthy families” (Dover 33). Kleophon is mentioned in the ode of the parabasis (674–85), and is both “vilified as a foreigner” (680–2) and maligned at the end of the play (1504, 1532).
Ryder Smith
The political background of the play is a call to return to old-fashioned virtue and leadership, and to resist the advice of those whose loyalty is in question.
The obvious parallel to today is the more globalist elite and the resistance to it by a more nationalist political bent.
Connor Williams
Good shit OP. Have an uncommon.
Leo Watson
>Bρεkεkέξ, βρεkεkέξ, >βρεkεkέξ kουάξ-kουάξ!
>Bρεkεkέξ
>kεkέξ,
Austin Foster
Awesome
Josiah Davis
Posting in a quality thread
Alexander Hernandez
>ITT: 15 year olds and manchildren who claim to love white civilization and culture learn about "The Frogs" for the first time ever
Grayson Morris
Exactly they are repeating refrain of the Frogs" Brekekekex, ko-ax, ko-ax" like Aristophane's description.
Kayden Edwards
Best thread in ages.
Adam Edwards
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Thomas Harris
I have to leave now, but to summarize the themes:
Athens (America) needs to be Made Great Again. This can be done by going back to its roots, reasserting the traditional ideals of the nation-state and real citizenship (represented by Aeschylus) in the face of more post-national, globalist goals (represented by Euripides).
Dionysus is the one searching for the solution. He is kind of a contradiction, as he tries to look like his total Alpha brother Hercules but is also mocked for his nu-male feminine traits. Nonetheless, he is trying. The situation may call for a leader who, like Alcibiades, is rejected by the elite class for his impious behavior and style.
There's lots of obscene humor and bantz and frogs and lions.
I figured there were some classics geek type folks on here besides myself who might appreciate this, it has been stewing around in my head the last few hours.
Nathaniel Kelly
The why is it on page fucking 5 with less than 30 posts?
This is why I hate Cred Forums. They preach and preach and preach, then when you actually validate what they say, they are nowhere to be seen.
Daniel Carter
>Their chanting evokes both Kek and Brexit how's your autism going?
Landon Howard
There are more parallels that I'm out of time for, try to find them. For example, the ecstatic "IT'S HAPPENING" orgies of posts are rather Dionysian, in my opinion.
Nathan Gomez
This is all for fun. I thought the French were supposed to enjoy life instead of walking around with clenched assholes all the time like us Americans.
Isaac Thomas
Brekekex Brekekex Ko-ax Ko-ax
Alexander Myers
Praise!
Jackson Gray
I'm screenshot ring to do my own research, I love how deep this keeps going.
Jeremiah Torres
top tier autism here
i'm loving it tho
>praise kek
Adrian Adams
Will Kek remain after Trump's victory or will he fade out of our thoughts?
Julian Mitchell
>implying a millennium old deity will disappear the moment its prophet will rule the earth
Anthony Nguyen
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Isaiah Gonzalez
Entire courses will be taught on meme magic during from election. Kek will live on in (((history))) books and Marxist classrooms.
Aristophanes is also the guy that wrote the play about women taking over Athens and basically making it communistic with some body positivity thrown in there for good measures.
I think he was one of Kek's prophets.
Ian Gutierrez
Dionysus also got fucked by Portugal
Justin Miller
Rightly so, you busybody. the Muses of the fine lyre love us And so does horn-crested Pan, playing his reed pipe. And the harpist Apollo delights in us as well, On account of the reed, which as a bridge for his lyre I nourish in the water of the pond.
Brekekekex ko-ax ko-ax.
Blake Parker
>a moon crest
Andrew Baker
it isn't that horrific unlike the abo, at least there is some order.
Aiden Powell
>being this new
Pretty embarrassing.
Levi Ross
This, stop interrupting my spamming of Hillary memes with your bullshit OP.
Glad you all liked it. It satisfied my boredom for a while, at the very least.
Wyatt Gray
This
William Morris
Didn't even realize I got a triple dubs
Landon Rivera
This reminds me of Aristophanes' The Frogs
Carter Allen
Ding ding ding!
Ayden Turner
you faggots need to read some more fucking books if you've never heard of dionysus or "the frogs" or the perhaps more popular "the bacchus"
then you can read how nietzsche interprets the whole shebang 2300 years later in "the birth of tragedy"
Aaron Williams
Is it a well-known nursery rhyme in Greece? I thought it was just a huge coincidence.
Blake Perez
>you faggots need to read some more fucking books if you've never heard of dionysus or "the frogs" or the perhaps more popular "the bacchus"
Aristophanes has some hilarious plays. Full of dick jokes.
Nicholas Reyes
The Bacchae is pretty messed up.
Thank you for mentioning this, I vaguely recall this being brought up on Cred Forums lately. It was one of the things that got me thinking about The Frogs.
The difference here is that half of Cred Forums welcomes global destruction in the form of the Happening juat as much as the other half desires salvation (some overlap exists between the two).
Camden Collins
by the way the name Xanthias means ''Blonde'' or ''Fair Hair'' ;-)
Julian Cruz
Dead trees need to be cleared by forest fires so new saplings can take root and thrive. Restoration comes from destruction.
Caleb Morales
He knew.
Did he write any more based stuff?
Ryan Anderson
>mfw I've seen this play on an actual ancient Greek theater
Wyatt Phillips
>Then I saw three impure spirits that looked like frogs; they came out of the mouth of the dragon, out of the mouth of the beast and out of the mouth of the false prophet. - Revelation 16:13
Why do Christfags hate memes?
Asher Nelson
1. Savior 2. Destruction 3. Jew World Order
Fuck the current direction
Austin Cox
Although I do enjoy Aristaphanes, I think The Clouds is a better play. The Greek is far more clever as well. Good use of puns and accentation. Random side fact, Aristaphanes of Byzantine invented Greek written accenting!
Source: Classics grad student for some reason... kill me
Landon Morris
Why didn't we listen?
Saved btw.
Logan Ortiz
Clouds is literally about a bunch of plebbiters at Socrates's Academy go on and on about how enlightened they are to be a "philosopher athiest" and the main character joins only because Socrates agrees to teach him how to jew his way out of shekels. It's hilarious, they even burn down the plebbit school in the end because it was full of fedoras
