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Japan birth rate increasing.

We won't need immigrants!

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Getting you people to fuck is like watching caged pandas chew on bamboo, waiting for extinction.

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I'm coming there and impregnating as many women as possible.

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How much of that is Jew propaganda, and how much is legit, my friendly ex-pat English teacher?

I also don't see why a declining birthrate is a bad thing, other than oh nooooooo socialism will die. Population rises and falls according to the means to support it. Less jobs, less wealth available to the average person = less people have kids, which means future generations will live better with more jobs more wealth. Europe experienced an economic boom after the Black Death precisely for this reason.

Birthrate doesn't even matter that much.
Children put on as big a pressure on the welfare state as old people do.

We are way too late on trying to fix the population through more children.

Imagine in five years. Too many old people. Then also there are tons of children. How will the children help pay for old people? They can't. They won't even be fully ready for the labour market before they are like 25-years old.

すごい!
Nice to see your not going to drown like germany

Good one you, Japan

What do you think about your work hours? Should they decrease it? Overworking doesn't always lead to better productivity, you know.

Whatever the case may be, defend yourself against the Jews.

jew propaganda? wouldnt that try and show that japans birthrate was falling so the country can take out loans to support thousands of immigrants' welfare?

user, you were full before too
That's why your birthrate declined
Man was not meant to live in such high human density conditions as Tokyo presents

It's all gone to shit here in the west. The torch of civilisation is being passed to you lads. Don't make our mistakes.

Your islands are overpopulated. You NEED a decreasing population. Tell me how immigrants are going to help.

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i think working hour is fine, i read that we have less working hour than germany and even USA in futaba. i think they should increase working hour, because more competition make japan rich. and also should stop pay pension to old people, because angry knife will cut them. they could work for example in simple job, like when you are in supermarket line (dont know english name for that, i think clerk?) and that would mean less spending and more workforce, equal more wealth for japan's economy. heavy jobs like construction worker and engineer becomes for youth because they think fast and havy strong muscles.
i dont want sound rude but i think it always was with us, just for some time was yours.
for example, china has 5000 year of history and very culture and art, and japan 1500 more or less.
but when it is western world, it go from rome and greece, which is like 500 year, and then collapsed. and then portugal spain and dutch who make sailings, and industrial revolution and also technologies of 20th century. but everything else was asia, like sumerians, india, persia, china and later japan that produced many art, architecure, etc. i respect if you disagree however.

I dedicate these digits to the Emperor.

Glory to the Japanese Empire!

>yfw anime fan-service is doing its job
checked

>1.4
You're not there yet m8. Keep at it, pump out those zipperhead babies like pachinko balls, tell the globalists to go fuck themselves. You're on the right path.

I've never before been more happy to check doubles :3

you cant even get digits, i am shame to be your country man

>More disgusting nip mongrels being born
I'm fucking estatic

Why the fuck would you need immigrants anyway. Iceland works fine, and they are 300000.

based japs.
Keep it up and you might just safe the only civilization worth keeping in this world.
STAY STRONG NIPS

Every Japanese person should have a minimum of 3 children (more preferably).

Keep it up my Jap brahs. Don't become like us.

Bad Goy! Did you not read the report from the EU Commission for Muslim Importation on how you should flood your countries with Africans whenever your birthrates go bellow 1.5?

Japan's culture is degenerate and the Japanese people are a cruel and inhuman race.
They are basically eastern Jews hell bent on destroying western values.

Do you not wan't gundams to be build or what?
I know what you're up to Britannia [Picture related]

you wouldnt need them even if your birth rate was dropping. its just a old fashioned meme that a GDP has to grow forever.

how many of those kids are going to commit sodoku?

Median age peaks at around 50 so why not just let the population decline?

What do you mean by western values? and what's so degenerate about japanese culture? They are a very honorable people.

It'd help birth rates if 40% of Japanese adults weren't virgins.
japantimes.co.jp/news/2016/09/16/national/social-issues/sexless-japan-almost-half-young-men-women-virgins-survey/#.V93WXPkrKUm

No!
Japan needs immigrants!
More specifically immigrants from Afgrica and the Middle East!

40% wizards and witches senpai

Still well below replacement rate.

But I already learned the language

I can help your economy I'll share my technology to make japan mecha again

I swear im not a nigger let me in ください

Checked 'em.

Be careful Japan, (((they))) are coming after you now.

>Honourable
Fuck off weeaboo

Honorary aryan indeed

>We won't need immigrants!

That's not what Japanese women think.

>and what's so degenerate about japanese culture?

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Is this some kind of Japanese cuckold porn?

If this were an anime all their noses would simultaneously explode.

Nice cherrypicking faggot

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I...

I'm not sure that simile has the affect you intended, user.

Find me a single painting produced in Europe that depicts a woman getting raped by an octopus then

Can I enter?
I really want to try farming in a very warm country.
Seriously I'll fit in, I swear I'll squint and crouch down whenever I'm around one of the inhabitants.
Come on, Japan, be cool.

Guess again Sven

>potato wants to become rice

you fuckers better not let the jews infiltrate you.

start learning the ancient ways of the samurai

Kek

I think it's a Japanese game show where they invite a masculine virile white guy on the show to breed with all the japanese women. Ok the last part is just fantasy.

Pls let me in, I will teach English in return for 1 qt3.14 Japanese wife.

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Gatchas are 100% degenerate.

>pantsu vending machine
Literally why. Also, how can anyone be so shameless as to actually use one of these?

I would fuck every woman in that room none stop until their pussies were bleeding and their uterus was full of my sperm.
I'm talking degrading, ritualistic animal sex for the sole purpose of impregnation.
I would make them rub my body as I pound one of their friends and whisper in her ear about how she is going to have a beautiful superior white child.
After they are done being pregnant I will stand them up in a line and tell them their sole purpose is to continue to make children for me.
HALP I AM BECOMIGN THE MORMON

Backstory on the gif?

Good! I want Japan to be a beacon of what the west could have been after ww2.

Dude modern economies can't even find jobs for all the people they have. They're not going to run short of labor.

All that's going to happen is they're going to have to automate a bunch of meaningless, negative marginally productive service industry jobs and the jobs that do exist will need to pay more.

pure blood japanese samurai kills half japanese half jew commie.

Impressive

The replacement rate is still 2.1 you idiot

At least the Jap one is interesting. The other ones are all boring, samey shit that they copied from one another.

If you only knew how bad things really are.

Is that picture all you have for refutal? Dismissed. Unless you want to start a discussion about the history of art.

>that look of pure terror at :05

Also, all those Nippon cuties makes me consider reconsidering my stance on weabooism.

Good for you guys

Checked.

>1 post by this ID

sage goes in the options field

sasuga Abe

TENNO HEIKA BANZAI

We are more into dogs senpai

Thank Christ! Now, I can rest assured that I can have authentic Japanese women instead of nigger half-breeds when I make my regular "impregnation tour."

What? You don't need to immigrate to knock up a ton of bitches.

Good work. There's a lot more you can do to fix the ailing birthrates, and it can all be done without importing immigrants by the millions.

even if half of you were nuked tomorrow you would not face extinction, death allows life to flourish again, you are a small landmass you live liek rats in the cities, no wonder you dont have babies, need to die a bit

You start importing people, you create a vacuum of people on the region you outsource babies from, and THEY are the ones that breed while you slow down even more

What's the fucking difference if it's the Chinese or Koreans or Vietnamese even, Asians all look the same.

WE will strike back.

you just wait 3rd worlders

Banzai Banzai

Your knowledge of European history is shit. Asia had tons of dark ages as well, just take a look at China and how they were conquered by horse nomads for half of its existence, or India or Persia for that matter.

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>sausage wants to become haram

Don't think you can farm potatoes in Japan, only rice can grow there, and that's if no Tsunami happens.

I'm happy for you, good luck.
I hope it's not just breeding kebab invaders, or white cucks stealing your womenz.

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i think immigrants are ok if they don't try to marry japanese and don't want japanese citizenship. and they also must be extra polite and abide to law, culture. when they work here as honest i like it.

I think Japan is the only country that sells "fragrance from a boy's anus" in a bottle

>We won't need immigrants!
How dare you deny this poor man who just wants a better life for his family immigration!!!

God forbid someone marries one of your ugly women with crooked teeth. Gotta preserve the insular inbreeding.

How could one nip island nation be so based?
>tfw you will never be based nip
>why live

He wants a better life because your country ravaged his country with war you fucking imbecile.

Share your women fag, they are hot as fuck and you guys clearly aren't breeding enough.
Some white genes won't ruin Japan.

It's just your country it's such a shit everything looks a paradise in comparison.

arent u fucking sexbots

kek

All you men are permavirgins that never leave the house and fuck anime pillows. You need to import real men.

Danna ga Nani worked! And with Amaama being so cute everyone is gonna want a little girl now!

Stfu Britbong, your shitty genes will ruin the teeth of an entire race.

rekt
>portushit, the laughing stock of europe, has the audacity to call other nations shitty

>Japanese
>Good teeth
If you consider horse face good.

yeah, pandas are Chinese

Fuck me, why does this shit makes me feel so sad??

What the hell happens with me?

You think immigrants will be white? They will be 90% chinese, 9 % muslims, 1% mexican.

Well they don't have those christian values like we have. Instead they have a shame society, which works fine imo. They care mostly about keeping public face. What they do in private no one cares basically.

what are you saying you dont want to be culturaly enriched we both know you do, dont worry mate i will set off a white bomb when i go on holiday to Jap land

If only leafs weren't such deliberately and vaguely obtuse cunts.

>has nigger riots every day
>allahu akbar explosions every now and then
>Has a massive clown (Trump) running for the presidency
Portugal is indeed a paradise compared to your disgusting shithole.

This. Send some chinks to Japan. No one will even notice

>Horse face
Clearly you've never seen a horse before, their faces are long.
Idk if you are baiting desu,

You don't even understand Roo, those are used panty machines

Japan is full

What did you guys so to increase your BR?

you must admit, white genes look good on any race

we'll make womens noses cuter

invite me over to breed with qt jap women ill sort your birth rate out

Wait, the panties aren't even new?

What the fuck.

I think I know how you feel
it'd be fine if it were a jap guy or a group of white women, but since it's a bunch of jap grills attracted to a white guy it's sort of tragic since it's just unnatural

grannies nanny the children

later children nanny the grannies

BRILLIANT

>9000 hours under the knife.jpg

>i dont want sound rude but i think it always was with us, just for some time was yours.
>for example, china has 5000 year of history and very culture and art, and japan 1500 more or less.

asians mostly kept doing the same thing, no real paradigm shifts. This is good and bad at the same time - you didn't adopt the progressive thought but you also still use hyrogplyphs and sticks.

>trump is a clown
>implying he wouldn't be better than hillary, obama, mccain, jeb!, w bush, etc etc
Is that what John Oliver told you?
Typical Portuguese, Ronaldo-cock-sucking nu-male.
Truly the niggers of Europe alongside Spain.
You make Spain look like a half-decent nation.

>9000 hours under the knife.jpg
Get your vision checked faggot, that's all natural.

Population decline isn't as big of a deal with the upcoming automization wave.

A lot of jobs are going to be lost to robots over the next century. There will be many more people than jobs, especially in developed countries.

> sub replacement rate growth
> we is growin and shit

this. Some countries might even ban automatons because of rednecks shouting "they taking our jobs". While low population countries will thrife with the productivity the automatons will bring.

Long live the Japanese Empire!

Yeah there's gonna be a new luddite wave.

But I will bring Marimekko with me :(

So they have tiny weiners

But don't shoot any blanks

hail to the glorious emipire of the rising sun

>1.46

It's increasing because there's lots of white guys there fucking your women for you.

naisu
sugoi
sasuga

Good on you guys, dont let the kikes push in immigrants and whine about how its not fair that they can't ruin your country

ahahaha

Big wieners are barbaric according to ancient greeks.

did they lower the age of consent or something?

fuckin pedos

Redpill me on low birthrates, specifically sub-replacement levels.

Obviously in the long run, if a sub-replacement level stays constant, that population will die out. But that would take thousands of years. If each woman has one white baby, for example, it would take a lifetime for the number of white people to even cut in half.

So what's the deal? Obviously it spell death for the welfare state (things like social security that depend on there being enough young working people paying for it), but the welfare state is a bad idea anyway. So what's the problem?

witnessed

They managed to convince Japan to take out so much debt it's debt/GDP ratio is like 200%, but they never convinced them to let in migrants - not for a lack of trying. They upped attempts to undo the birth rate to basically cripple Japan by depopulating it, which has worked so far. A third of Japan is over 65.

Also why would you want to increase pop on small island nation??

youtube.com/watch?v=zMGZtkMS3sQ

glorious nippon

>like germany
>t. mexican mutt
Threadly reminder that white americans have been a minority of births since 2011.

You don't need immigrants either way, but 1.46 is still very low.

>muh purity meme
ALL women are whores. ALL of them. Only through social pressure can they be restricted.

Think of it this way: All men are violent. Would you be upset if a surprising number of men decided to rape a defenseless girl if they knew they could get away with it? No, you know that's your nature. We agree that this is bad, so we place social pressure to stop them from doing so. The same can be said for women and sluttery. Of course women will fuck around if we let them - so don't let them.

True purity is a meme, though.

please get pissed off at some koreans
its amazing to see

butthurt achmed detected

Having seen most of the transfer students from Asia, they're all pretty scrawny or fat. A muscular dude must be quite the oddity in East Asia.

Asians are so obsessed with study they never get around to fitness. Sadly, all women care about is fitness and they don't give a fuck that you invented some life-saving medicine. East Asians are too good for this planet. Even whites look like niggers compared to them.

Why would you need migrants if your birth rate decreased you stupid Jew?
Stop making retarded logic statements. You will get migrants simply because they are cheaper and because they want to ruin your race.

truth confirmed by dubs

They're literally just normal. Have you seen the average person in the West? At least compared to American girls, these ones aren't fat or whining about Feminism all the time.

You're sad because your jealous and also a bit let down that women are all whores. Don't be sad, you can be that fit too if you really try.

Just be glad it wasn't a nigger.

Hello James Bond, may I marry a qt Jap grill?

to be fair the automatons wont be useful when you already have an excessive population, the poor people are already eating

Normal is the new glorious desu.

I can understand why a mutt like the average American would think this is sensible. Japan and other places like Hungary, South Korea, Poland, etc. are ETHNOstates. Their entire national identity is based on their unique ethnic, historical, and lingual background. Sending people in, even if they look similar, corrodes that ethnic-based national identity. A weaker national identity weakens the nation itself.

Japan wants to be Japanese and has a right to stay Japanese. Simply because we have no ethnic identity doesn't mean we should encourage other people to adopt similar purgatories.

So what you are saying is that, if i get jacked (I currently lift but not enough), Jap's will be all over me?

the problem is that a society like this would have a much better sustainability and not slay the monster all at once

BANZAI

>That's not what Japanese women think.

>Implying Japanese women like that

They love white guys, but they're not into super buff guys. The girls are just shocked by how muscular the guy is, it's not about it being sexy to them.
You're projecting western standards of beauty on their reaction, and it misinterprets their reaction.

The girls would have the same reaction if you brought a baby elephant into the room, doesn't mean they want to fuck a baby elephant.

Japanese standards for male beauty are overwhelmingly androgynous.

Pretty much all girls will be all over you, but especially East Asians (from East Asia, not transplants) since the comparison is so low. Asian men literally barely try to compete, especially the Japanese. It's their own fault, really.

>white
>acceptable physique

oh yes they will drool all over you

>shitskins BTFO

also this just proves jap women are fucking whores.

The issue is that, on a geopolitical level, more people in a country = more taxes, scientists, soldiers, etc. = more power.

It's a common's dilemma. If all the nations on Earth agreed to cut their populations by 5% or whatever, everyone would be better off. If all of them do except one, that one nation will be infinitely stronger just for having such a high population.

Therefore, all the smart countries SHOULD be racing to the top. In practice, all the First World countries have such low birth rates that just having a birth rate at replacement makes you competitive.

Also there's the issue that whites and east asians are the primary groups which are dying out. The species is getting slowly B L A C K E D, meaning a lower IQ over all. This probably won't be as bad because gene therapy will eventually let us augment all humans into geniuses regardless of race, but it'll mean more niggers for the foreseeable future.

Cheque'd, desu.

Japan. you've won my approval once more.

>Sadly, all women care about is fitness and they don't give a fuck that you invented some life-saving medicine.

Yeah, Japanese people totally don't care about fucking status. Golly, Japanese girls would much rather get with a buff construction worker than a doctor or lawyer.

Are you just projecting your own insecurities or do you seriously think this stupid shit is correct?
I feel like you're just trying to rationalize to yourself why girls don't like you or something.

Full of old men

Pandas just managed to climb out of the endangered range in terms of population, so that's a better analogy than you might think.

Lie. They fucking love ripped men. The reason "male beauty standards" in Japan are androgynous is because the bar is so low. They have so few fit men that their popular media is relatively devoid of them.

Also Japanese popular media is relatively modest in regards to men. They don't show off ripped men all the time.

kinda but not really. You were a brute and a barbarian if your shlong was big, but you were less of a man if it was tiny. Average was considered both manly and attractive.
also if Michelangelo's David is supposed to display physiological signs of fear, one of which is shrunk peenor. When observed from above (there was originally meant to be a raised platform to observe it) you can see David's expression looks fucking terrified. This was meant to contrast the grandness of the man as seen by those that followed him with the reality of a man afraid of being btfo by a monster of a soldier.

>are you just projecting your own insecurities
The hypocrisy is so fucking real here...
>Implying women will only hook up if you are a doctor or a lawyer...

I'm talking purely sexually, obviously. Women settle down and fuck for very different reasons.

I'm fairly fit, for reference. I work out 5-6 times a week and run at least a mile every time (I skip running on leg day).

All the MAKE BABIES anime propaganda finally kicking in?

It's interesting that his work was so good people felt the need to display it more closely so they could examine it, thereby stripping it of all the meaning Michelangelo intended for it.

>worn panties

That's the point.

SASUGA NIPPON SAMA!

Keep the good work up!

Japanon, why do your women love us italians?
I've been to Tokyo recently, had packs of wild jappettes following me screaming ITARIANO CIAO BERRISSIMOOO and taking pics with me while offering me drinks and shit. I don't even know how they could tell i was italian

Felt vaguely embarrassed since they know more about Fellini and Mastroianni than i do. Also sing O Sole Mio with perfect accent.

>we'll make womens noses cuter

Sure you will.

This thread is seriously convincing me to go to Japan to teach English (Easy, Decent pay, and not 40 hours a week). And just enjoy the women for a few years and when i get bored, i'll move back to Canada (Assuming it isn't infested with Muslims) and easily land a teaching job with the experience from Japan.

You never did OP.

>Lie. They fucking love ripped men.

No they don't, I'm dating a Japanese woman and I'm not ripped at all. All of my gf's friends that she shows me to talk about how handsome they think I am. Every Japanese girl I've talked to says how much Japanese girls would love me.
And get this... I look very androgynous, just like the male hosts, just like the male pop stars, just like the fucking male actors and every other desirable male in Japanese culture.
Standards of beauty DO NOT ARISE from what is available. Being a fat fuck is still not beautiful in America and we got a lot of fat fucks.

Being super buff is frequently used as a comedic gag in Japanese media. It's funny, it's not what they consider sexy.
Being fit is desirable, but not being jacked as fuck.

Big eyes, pale skin, and androgynous features are what Japanese girls like in men. A guy can be handsome and masculine and they'll love that too, but it's going to be a Ryan Gosling type of masculine they like, not the fucking Sylvester Stallone in Rambo kind.

The guy in that video is NOT what Japanese girls like, they're gawking over how strange his body is to them, not how sexy it is.

>The sun also rises

I'm not implying women will only hook up with you if you're a doctor or a lawyer.
I'm saying girls will prefer a guy with a regular body who is a lawyer or a doctor over a ripped guy who works at a gas station.

I mean shit, girls will hook up with you if you're a NEET as long as you're charming and funny. The point is preference, not whether or not it's possible to hook up with people.

>Japan is repopulating itself without immigrants
>The EU is starting to collapse as the Netherlands, Denmark & Austria are getting mighty sick of Belgium's shit and are thinking of leaving
>Hillary's retarded moves mean Trump will get elected
>Pauline Hanson is causing a shitstorm of butthurt in Australia with one half, and a wave of relief in another
>Article 50 soon
>in addition to the Emperor's Digits made by
Maybe life isn't so bad after all.

no one NEEDS immigrants i mean come on Ireland birth rates are 2.0 and yet they say that just about enough to cover population and still the Jew tries it on with them

so what makes you think American Jews wont be all over your government spreading bullshit and bribes?

Good shit your preventing your country from bringing in, other men from different countries to bring up the birth rate. that way you don't ruin the culture and morals your country has, the west is becoming more degenerate don't let your country fall the same fate even if the number is low its progress none the less.

Anexation of Manchuria and Korea when?

Poor gook women will never experience my superior celtic whitu spermu!

> mexican mutt
> ''''''''''white'''''''''' americans
top kek

Hey good for you guys.

>I'm talking purely sexually, obviously. Women settle down and fuck for very different reasons.

You're being autistic is what you're being. You're interpreting the world through what you know and feel.
Female sexuality is not nearly as visual as male sexuality. There are a lot of things that make a person sexually attractive to a woman than how muscular they are. You can be super fit, but stammer and dress like a retard and girls aren't going to be all over you.
You can have an average body and get a lot more girls just by dressing nice and being charismatic.

Girls don't just see a hot body and go "welp, I need to fuck that guy."
It's not like male sexuality.

So if birth rates go down you guys would import low class shitskins?

So basically
>I'm a Scrawny faggot, and i need to hide my insecurities by preaching to other people on the internet that they aren't better than me just because they do shit with their life and lift weights.
Oh yeah and stop acting like just because you lift you automatically turn into pic related, that's fucking retarded, few people want to look like that.

>Girls don't just see a hot body and go "welp, I need to fuck that guy."
Look at him and laugh

>I'm a Scrawny faggot, and i need to hide my insecurities by preaching to other people on the internet that they aren't better than me

I'm not insecure at all. I have no problem with people who have a preference for a body type that's different from mine.You can't please everyone.
However, I'm setting the record straight about what East Asian women like and it's 100% no the guy in the picture you just posted.
It's not buff guys, it's light skinned androgynous guys. They like beautiful men.

And I don't see how going to the gym equates to "doing things with your life", it's okay to think that being muscular is more attractive-- you're entitled to whatever opinion you want.
However, to imply working out is anything more than vanity in most cases is pretty stupid. Being vain isn't "doing something with your life."
There are lots and lots of ways to stay active and keep healthy that don't involve being really muscular, so it's not even about health.

Stop trying to elevate the hobby of working out.

>Look at him and laugh

What's there to laugh about? Any girl that sees a hot body and goes "welp, I need to fuck that guy" is an outlier and probably riddled with STDs.

>what East Asian women like and it's 100% no the guy in the picture you just posted.
>Being this retarded
That is what i said idiot, re-read my post then try again.
>few people want to look like that.

Ooga fucking booga where the fucking yellow women at

Yes because women will only spare them selves for ugly NEET's or they are a degenerate...

You are so sheltered a feral child knows more about the world.

>TFW europen spic

>Calling someone "retarded" while being retarded
>A leaf

God damnit... Seriously dude, are you this bad at following discussions?
The entire discussion came from a video with a body builder and SKE48's reaction to him.
That body type is NOT what Japanese girls go for.

The left is still gonna push that shit on you
Gotta break out your samurai armor and get practicing

>Yes because women will only spare them selves for ugly NEET's or they are a degenerate...

wew lad! What a leap in logic!

I don't even know what you're trying to say? Are you implying I'm a NEET or something?
What I'm saying is that anyone who only needs a guy to have a hot body to jump in bed with him is definitely a slut and a degenerate and more than that they're an outlier.
That's not typical female behavior at all.

I never said being a body builder was attractive, What i do believe that is being mildly strong and fit is a lot more attractive than being skinny or fat.
Like you said above...
> A guy can be handsome and masculine and they'll love that too, but it's going to be a Ryan Gosling type of masculine they like, not the fucking Sylvester Stallone in Rambo kind.

This conversation is pointless because you believe I actually think girls will like that body. I don't...
The only reason i'm still replying is don't agree with
>Skinny > Fit

>What i do believe that is being mildly strong and fit is a lot more attractive than being skinny or fat.

Well yeah, but being fit and skinny goes hand in hand.

I'm not sure what you're arguing with me about. I never said being skinny with no muscles was better than being fit. I never even suggested it. All I ever said is that I'm not ripped at all. I'm not a skeleton though, I still have muscle.