Communism

Socialism springs organically from capitalism. You cannot force it by simply promising gibs to poor farmers who have no political consciousness. Third world Marxism is a plague that needs to be destroyed.

The USSR was ethnically homogenous, and it was great to live in compared to the multicultural degenerate U.S that we have now. Sadly, the USSR destroyed Nazi Germany, so I have a bone to pick with them

Hardly. Liberals dominate universities. Someone advocating the abolition of wage labour and private property wouldn't get very far with the millionaire donors or state government.

>communism
>popular

>Socialism springs organically from capitalism

Maybe. But the most advanced capitalist states never succumbed to a socialist revolution. Contrary to early Marxist theory. I agree political consciousness should be developed. However I'm sceptical as to what extent capitalism is necessary. It's good for destroying feudalism but beyond that?

it springs organically from capitalism via revolution, the passing from one mode of production to the next isn't done peacefully. The process by which capital, and the means of production found its way to be accumulated in the hands of the bourgeoisie wasn't peaceful either. The only hope is to instill class consciousness into people, and undo the damage liberals and the aut-right are doing.

No, it's fucking gay and has a 160+ year track record of abject failure.

>USSR was great to live in
o rly

Pure communism as defined by Karl Marx? Absolutely not. You're better off swallowing the hemlock. That said I have an odd appreciation for the GDR. Maybe it's just because I've been reading a lot about it lately and how a lot of former Nazis became officials for it.

Russia had famines for centuries. Only ended under Stalin. The holodomor was more caused by natural disaster than anything else. Capitalism malnourishes millions every day across Africa and Asia.

The GDR had a cool anthem

>But the most advanced capitalist states never succumbed to a socialist revolution. Contrary to early Marxist theory.

The actual reason is globalism, and hence the idea that you cant have communism when there are also non communist countries out there practicing the system.

What i mean by that 'it was globalism' is instead of countries having a ruling and working class, we have basically put all the workers into a single country while another country rules them from afar (through business and finance practice), hence the rulers have no worry about a revolution in their own country, and the workers in the poor country have nothing to rise up against.

Its a barrier that can only be broken by a greater emphasis on countrywide self reliance and minimizing your dependence on trade as a way of life.

>Ethnically Homogenous
>What are: Chechens, Caucasian peoples, Chukchi, Baltics, Central Asian Groups (Kazakh, Turkmen, Uzbek, Krygrz), Manchu, Cossack (technically Russian but with other admixture)...

Communism/Socialism is clearly the best method, and we will automatically go to it when the machines replace all the jobs.

The funny thing is that that image is from the Bengal Famine in capitalist British-ruled India.

Its shit

>third world countries full of niggers don't have enough food even though they get free food from UN
>because capitalism
Name one first world communist country

It's my favorite of the communist anthems. It's actually very uplifting in my opinion. I like it more than the one Germany uses now.

youtube.com/watch?v=P1CyPjQQTAM

>What does Cred Forums think of Communism and Marxist theory?
Jewish.

> Is it redpilled?
Being "redpilled" is to know the truth about the Jews and being pro-White. Since Communism is Jewish, it's non-White and anti-White. So no, Communism isn't redpilled you stupid faggot.

>implying the free food makes it to anyone but the Presidents
Cuba is poor, but it's actually way above living standards in the surrounding countries.

>Is it redpilled
What the fuck? Fuck no.

No communist state has even gotten past the stage of socialism, and with good reason.

Industries being owned by the government means zero competition between companies, which means zero need for innovation and zero need for pandering to consumers.

Socialism goes hand-in-hand with "helping out the poor", and fuck that. The poor can burn. Taxation is theft, and all that.

Communism looks lovely on paper, until you realize that human beings are not perfect, and the upperclass will always prey on the lower class.

Capitalism is where it's at, senpai. I'm going to say that Fascismfags are probably mentally deficient as well, but even that is better than Communism/Socialism.

Yes, butchering the entrepreneurial class and the intelligentsia, so former swineherds can be in charge of the economy and sic secret police on their fellow citizens is the final redpill.

dialectical materialism is red pilled. I dunno about secret policy and giving everything you own to the state though.

*police

>Capitalism is where it's at, senpai.
Capitalism and communism are two sides of the same, Jewish shekel.

>'m going to say that Fascismfags are probably mentally deficient as well, but even that is better than Communism/Socialism.
Facism/National Socialism is where it's at. It's the one system our Jewish overlords don't want us taking part in.

>the poor can burn
I kind of agree. Most poor people in first world countries are poor because they are too stupid to manage their money. They waste their money on stupid shit like rental appliances, prepackaged microwave food, and get into debt buying stupid shit. Poor people can be helped with private charity rather than communism.

Forced equality is unnatural.

good read desu

>good read desu
Indeed.

I see fascism as a failed attempt at combining socialism and capitalism. Like socialism, it sounds good in theory, but it relies on the premise that you have a competant leader. The only real, core value of fascism is nationalism and isolationism. Most other aspects are really up to a single person. The supreme leader decides what business is good for the country, much like socialism, but at least they reject the idea of trying to keep failing industries afloat. Another aspect I respect is that they acknowledge classism.

Other than that, basically every one of those values in that text are not set in stone. Everything else really comes down to what the leading party member believes are appropriate policies to set in place. And you better hope to god whoever that is is a competant leader and not an opportunistic dictator, or else you end up with shit like North Korea and Nazi Germany.

>I see fascism as a failed attempt
Just because it was defeated does not mean its wrong.

>at combining socialism and capitalism.
It uses whatever is best for the people for the benefit of the people.

>but it relies on the premise that you have a competant leader
Of course it would have a competent leader as fascism/national socialism is a competent system.

>and Nazi Germany.
There was literally nothing wrong with NSDAP Germany.

What is the difference between nat soc. and regular socialism aside from the pride in your nationality?

while in theory it is a great system, all who have attempted to implement it have done so to increase state power not to help the people, lastly the only chance communism had was with Lenin..... and they killed him

The problem with Marxism/Communism is the same problem with capitalism. They assume that it is possible to overcome human nature and that people will not be shitty, power hungry dick heads who take advantage of the people around them. We are too broken a people to accomplish that goal. In the end, capitalism and marxism seek to accomplish the same goal, a world where you work for your fair share. In practice, neither work.

Thanks for correcting the record!

>What is the difference between nat soc. and regular socialism aside from the pride in your nationality?
As a National Socialist, how would you define the difference between a National Socialist and a Communist?
americannaziparty.com/news/archives.php/

National Socialism and Communism
aryanism.net/politics/national-socialism-and-communism/

Thanks, will read.

I think the fundamental difference between the two is that Marxism and Communism REQUIRE absolute perfect equality to function. The farther the model is strayed from, the more it corrupts and breaks apart.

Capitalism does not require equality, so it functions well regardless, though not perfectly.

Okay, I didn't mean Nazi Germany as a whole, but Adolf Hitler was extremely incompetant, which is basically the reason they lost WWII.

>Hitler wuz a gud boy, he dindu nuffin. He wuz goin to church every sunday, getin his lyfe on trak. Dat shiet bout sekret police, death camps, invadin evry where at 1ce wuz just made up by da jew man

To be fair, air cooling the vw beetle and building autobahns were good ideas, but his mentality of "build everything bigger" was stupid.

No, in fact in the context of this site and what we have determined to be "red-pilled', marxism and communism are in fact antithetical to the concept. Egalitarianism, the abolishment of the state after the the elimination of the bourgeoisie and the "kulak" peasants, a classless society that lives under the dictatorship of clueless intellectuals who fight amongst themselves and kill or starve millions because they're so clueless, a society where the degenerate negro female is supposedly similar in social capital to a hard working white man, it's all a bunch of faggot bullshit. If I could have it my way I would have every pink commie scum and marxist hippie faggot hung from the rafters of our universities and cultural institutions, which the frankfurt school and Karl Marx, the jobless loser himself, have sought to destroy.