celebrities do this all the time. they make a big deal of pointing out the hand gestures. live performances. talks hows, sitcoms, anywhere they can.
Michael Smith
most poses do not use hand signals.
Easton Nelson
political rallies...
Easton Bell
yet the dumb goyim always do it
Cooper Robinson
...
Juan Fisher
It is demonic, allowing a demon to possesses oneself.
Liam Butler
justa pop culture reference goys
Cameron Long
I once did some meditation before i was about to sleep. When I finally fell asleep i felt like i was trapped in my dreams. I kept waking up in the dream but not reality something was pulling me in. Never again nigger
Liam Rogers
im thinking it is something along these lines.
William Young
Meditation is a indian bullshit.
Not jewish or satanic on it
Sebastian Flores
>Every fucking meditation position makes satanic & kabbalistic hand symbols no this is b8 and I have bitten.
Jace Young
i had a similar experience when i tried it years back. i tried it for like months, got really into the weird ass world behind it, and its def creepy
Leo Campbell
its called hyperbole you retarded nigger
no the MKULTRA kikes subverted it to mind control the populace
and >implying "jews" havent subverted every culture
Joseph Richardson
Short answer: No.
Long answer: Meditation is for the purpose of allowing you to consciously control/silence your own mind and develop your subtle energy bodies; it makes you more resistant to outside mental and spiritual influence, not more susceptible.
There are a ton of different meditation practices, most of which use different mudras; the most well known circle/OHM intonation is for meditating on the chakra in the middle of the head/pineal gland, more commonly known as the Third Eye.
Do some basic research before you post dumb shit.
Jason Foster
It's sleep paralysis or a form of astral projection
Brayden Cooper
MKUltra was about drugs and psychological methods to brainwash and control minds, not weird hand positions or ocultism
Jeremiah Lopez
lol you have the most retarded understanding of this, what are you even talking about what type of meditation, what type of religion.
youre retarded if you think its about pineal glands and subtle energy bodies you subverted kike faggot
Aiden Thompson
>psychological methods to brainwash >not occultism
Zachary Peterson
Jesus meditated.
Justin Perez
Yes it absolutely is. You're emptying your mind simply to be possessed by something else.
Easton Gutierrez
he prayed, not weird ass satanic hand symbols
Ian Edwards
"You shall not go into a trance..." in the old testament written by jews. It's New Age Luciferianism that promotes light bringing. Light working. This is something that can't be stopped. It's not man made. There will be a clash between new age meditators and traditional religions.
Anthony Watson
Isn't presence of the mind possession? To void the mind is to be possessed by nothing.
Brody Peterson
this is what i've been thinking about meditation and psychedelic drugs lately. i was a huge supporter of these years ago..free of outside influence they might be OK, but the way they are being pushed these days seems intentional and occult-y/subversive
like the idea of "ego-loss"
Asher Robinson
Maybe. Most yoga is just stretches though. None of the classes I have been to does the stupid hand signal shit.
Chase Sanders
Sure dude, sure
Carson Jackson
you clear your mind, not your body and the manifestations inside it..
the original isrealites were good, the new age lucifereans pretend to be jews, like in revalation 3:9.
and youre right too many people are seeing the "globalist" control system, something big and bad might happen soon.
Easton Gray
Troll or not, you're such a fucking retard.
Jose Jones
there's nothing wrong /w satan
Easton Martinez
yoga is not meditation like what im talking about..besides modern yoga seems like yoga-lite/modern watered down stuff..it could be subversive in its own way, i dont know much about yoga desu, the way its been pushed though im suspicious of..
Henry Carter
All Meditation is is breathing control.
All you need to do to mediate is control your breathing.
Deep breaths in. Deep breaths out.
Oh, also empty your mind. That is it.
You don't need to cross your legs, you don't need to hold your hands in some position. You do not need to hum, just be fucking quiet and focus on your breathing.
Deep breaths in. Deep breaths out.
That is it. One of the most calming things you can do. Feel nervous, anxiety, upset, angry. Take a moment, and breath. Just focus on breathing.
Carson Rodriguez
It's the opposite of jewish (mandatory blind faith religions) manipulation you fucking retard
Holy shit
There are probably some retards that will fall for this thread
Logan Powell
fuck off kike
if youre evil of okay with the idea of it maybe
Connor Morales
There is literally nothing wrong with being into the occult.
Xavier Jones
its not all about breathing, there is a lot of type of meditation. pretty much everything is meditation if you "meditate" while doing it.
what im talking about is not the normal types of meditation or prayer all over the world but this weird "new age" "ohm/light body/were all one/4th dimensional DMT elves" stuff which would be used as a subversive tool on your subconscious.
stuff where you make these hand gestures and mindlessly try and astral project or "enlighten" yourself.
Dominic Cooper
>implying buddha ever promoted this modern meditation BS
fuck off faggot
Christian Campbell
Maybe just don't do the hand symbols? I don't need to do them when I meditate. It's calming and helps to alleviate stress by following the breath and calming the mind. I have some pretty bad anxiety and it's a natural method for dealing with that. The only negative side effect Ive ever had with meditation is I sometimes fall asleep.
Elijah Williams
except for when it ends up creating things like the hollywood and elite's behind closed door or eyes wide shut shit, and loads of people suffer
Aaron Stewart
Really convincing me with all these hot opinions OP.
Michael Parker
thats only the beginning of meditation. there is the whole new age side of things being pushed onto people and the message behind it is totally controlled
its the opposite of the way people like the buddha would want you to do it
in a way the new age enlightenment stuff is very materialistic or attached to samsara, maya and death
Kayden Fisher
If you ever do the index and thumb it's intense. The ring finger and thumb is to goof around. Why? because the ego is for fun. This activates the ego by way of the third chakra. Take your pick I like the first one but you'll laugh more with the 3rd.
Lincoln Young
i dont give a shit if i convince you or not, there are loads of people who might see this.
you're really going to engage this retard? just let him continue his Judeo-Christian virtue signaling & desperate longing for others to cosign his batshit crazy paranoia.
Hunter Bennett
>Judeo-Christian
haha no faggot
and if you think these are my ideas or something youre retarded
Eli Cooper
>thats only the beginning of meditation
Is there a reefer madness for meditation? That would be fun.
Eli Watson
I always thought it was middle finger touched to thumb
Noah Murphy
have you never heard of things like mahayana buddhism and the thousands of different crazy yogis all over india with their own brand of meditation before?
Ethan Ward
ego-less is the biggest bullshit
you can't be egoless
being selfless is bad. Having no self is bad.
Caleb Powell
>creepy How?
Ian Peterson
lol now that you mention it, i think thats how i used to do it when i was a kid and copied meditation too.
Eli Powell
either way you're a giant douche & its leaking in through your entire pathetic ass Cred Forums post. seriously, you're a giant fag. Go do something good with your life.
Ryder Jones
he's literally doing the hand signal in the statue
Luis Jenkins
Sonetimes I question the sanity of Cred Forumstards
Cameron Butler
yeah i think the whole egolessness thing is similar to that shit pushed in communist countries back in the 1900s. some selflessness is okay, but when it goes too far obviously it has gone wrong before..
Carson Brooks
haha fuck off idiot, sorry you got triggered
Dominic Richardson
>training your mind to be stronger and more alert is making you vulnerable to mind control
Owen Cox
no hes not hes putting his hands ontop of each other.
Cooper Smith
Yea man. I can't believe this garabage lol. This mother fucker is dumber than a rock. I see brilliance on here in many forms but this bullshit needs to be called out for what it is. Fucking retarded. Go read kid. Call us when you finish high school.
Ethan Richardson
bump for real shit
Bentley Lewis
also its not like he built it himself lol
>egoloss type "new age" shit makes your mind stronger/isnt mind control
Owen Lewis
then I guess you got what you wanted nigger! you dumb as fuck!!!
Lincoln Carter
you know absolutely nothing about whats begin talked about here moron
Owen Martinez
My theory is newage shit and meditation, drug trips all that jazz can be legit spiritual, but it leaves you open to spiritual beings such as demons who will lie to you about being god/gods for their own gain or to turn you away from Christianity.
that's why Jesus said not to talk to spirits and if you do some how end up talking to one to ask it if Jesus Christ was god in the flesh, if they respond yes they are a heavenly spirit, if no they are a demon.
Leo Rivera
>you dumb as fuck
and youre a retarded kike nigger!
Kevin Peterson
>it's a "I declined to work with (((them))) and now the simulation is malfunctioning around me" episode.
Best to keep it Christian.
Henry Lopez
God damn it dont be retarded. You can meditate while lying down quietly or do so while sacrificing babies to Moloch. Its a state of mind not just wierd humming and hand symbols.
Angel Nguyen
>My theory is newage shit and meditation, drug trips all that jazz can be legit spiritual, but it leaves you open to spiritual beings such as demons who will lie to you about being god/gods for their own gain or to turn you away from Christianity.
100% agreed!!!
i've known countless people who think this same thing too.
drugs and occult type new age stuff will make you go crazy if youre not careful.
Nicholas Moore
no fucking shit you retarded faggot, im talking joe rogan float tank or astral projection new age shit
the original point of meditation was not rituals and hand symbols like you said you can do it anywhere
Charles Nguyen
this.
meditation has been scientifically proven to increase willpower.
guided meditation no, because that's just sitting and listening to talking with your eyes closed
Julian Russell
>I declined to work with (((them))) and now the simulation is malfunctioning around me
what are you even talking about?
Jack Morgan
Meditation has nothing to do with drugs or occult. It's for calming down and increasing focus. You can meditate on Jesus or your God, it has nothing to do with religion.
Go ahead try it, focus on Jesus and his teachings and tell me if it doesn't calm you down. You dont have to do any of the hand signal stuff, just lace them on your lap or whatever.
Thomas Turner
>guided meditation no
exactly, and its not all talking but people read things(or watch it or hear about it in music), get it into their heads and meditate, looking for what theyve heard about vs whats actually happening
Justin King
read the thread for one second before posting
Carter Lopez
>GIVING the Jews this much credit
Joseph Russell
lol yep i do respect them as enemies thats for sure, theyre tenacious folk
Chase Gray
Well if you're worried that if you sit quietly alone in private and try to focus your mind the Jews are gonna get you somehow. I guess you've resigned yourself to the thought that there really is no escape and you are truly a slave on all levels.
Jeremiah Sullivan
>drugs and occult type new age stuff will make you go crazy if youre not careful.
Life is just one giant hallucination anyway. With enough meditation practice you'll be able to come to know this and experience reality as it actually exists.
Ryder Garcia
>experience reality as it actually exists
What do you mean by this
Ryder Hughes
>kabbalistic >satanic
Kabbalah magic is not of a satanic / infernal nature. If you think ALL magic is evil like they did in the middle ages then I guess you can fall for the globalist lie if you want to. But I will be using my Meme magic to defeat the globalizes. Have fun being a pussy OP.
Carter Mitchell
>Eastern religions make people and culture better >China
Fuckoff chonk
Samuel Scott
There are people who believe gif related. I have a "friend" who went to Maharishi School of Management in Iowa. Biggest waste of money ever and now he's a literal cuck because he bought into this cult.
30 years old never had a real job in his life. He lived in his grandma's house with his gf and their "male friend" while his grandma was elsewhere for the summer. So when grandma moved back in, he and his gf moved back to his house. Believed that there was nothing wrong with Bernie. Sad.
Oh and this "friend" I'm talking about also believes that he will make a six-seven figure salary because "rich people" will pay him to give Vedic nutritional advice and Vedic massages.
Hudson Martin
You enter into the original, clear, nondual state of consciousness, which is extremely hard to describe in words. Your false sense of ego falls off and you become your true self, which is that all-pervading sense of awareness that is the witness to all of your minds thoughts. There's no longer any suffering, only eternal bliss and pure awareness.
But yeah again words are really limited here, it's like trying to describe the color red.
David Kelly
>33
Jace Bailey
That's how cults work. They can lead you on and on in circles because everything is so vague it can't be described by words. It's like Operating Thetans in Scientology. There's always a "higher level" that people will never reach. And one way or another, you have to "pay" (money, time, effort or otherwise) to reach it without any tangible benefit.
It doesn't work with things like MMA because you know right away if it works or not.
Brody Anderson
>you think ALL magic >i strawman because i dont understand whats being talked about!!
kabbalists are satanic, hate to burst your bubble
Isaiah Cook
The only time I meditate is when I get my yearly bout of cluster headaches.
also OP is a retard. Catholic monks meditate too.
Fuck.
Tyler Bailey
>33
>literal cuck because he bought into this cult.
exactly this!!!
fuck every shill who whines about muh meditation helps me shit
that is not the same as the crap being pushed on kids these days which is total indoctrination, brain washing
Juan Ward
I dk i do DDP yoga. It's pretty cringey, but it's really helped my mobility and gives a great workout that compliments my weight/cardio training.
It's really upped my core strength and balance
Julian White
When I do it I feel too "passive" like it feels good and like I'm one with the world but I don't know I feel like I'm kind of helpless in that state.
Kayden Williams
LOL idiot.
read the fucking thread, nobody said "all types of meditation from every culture"..ive been very specific about what im talking about
show me catholic monks who do these hand gestures i mention
hell who cares because catholicucks have been subverted since the middle ages
Gavin Myers
You sound like a true dumbfuck
Camden Hill
thats very good, im glad to hear.
Jacob Ortiz
wtf are you even on about?
Isaac Jones
lol you cant even form an argument
just resort to tumblr tier retarded shit
Jace Green
This Literally this
Hudson Morales
Can you? all you said is that hand gestures 'n shieet is satanic
Tyler King
Well yeah of course, your sense of ego drops off, which is your false sense of power and control over the world. What you fundamentally are, this awareness-consciousness, ultimately has no involvement in the "external" world whatsoever. The subject doing the viewing is separate from the object being viewed. It is inherently detached from it and you are merely an observer of whatever comes into your awareness-consciousness field. Any sort of sense of "action" or "doing" comes directly from the mind, which is just another mental phenomenon in the field of awareness.
Caleb Kelly
an argument for what you moron? if you think ive only mentioned hand gestures youre absolutely helplessly retarded
other people in this thread have all explained it as well just fucking read it
if you want to specifically bring up an argument against something ive said, i will happily talk about it
Benjamin Butler
Meditation is a real and at times healthy thing to do. Hand gestures arent needed what so ever, its just placebo bullshit at that point. Just resting your hands on your lab does just fine.
The idea behind meditation isnt always some religious conspiracy. Ita great for inner thought managment and that can really help reduce stress for some people.
No, you arent going to hell if you do it or even do the hand signs. But dont be some snobby starbuck chugger that thinks they are one with the universe or some shit because they started it two weeks ago because a man on the internet box showed him how.
Just do it on your own time. Figure out a good question for yourself to ask and think about it's answers or outcomes. It's a time for understanding yourself more than anything.
Pic unrelated
Jonathan Lopez
It's the ultimate bluepill - willingly destroying your will. Good to see other anons recognize it for the destructive force it is.
Aaron Reyes
exactly
this is retarded BS, all "ego" shit is retarded
Nathaniel White
this has all been addressed
Jason Davis
Seriously I ahve all your posts (45) highlighted and not a single one is an argument for why meditation is inherently bad, just a bunch of retarded drivel that looks straight from youtube.
Jack Thompson
Holy shit, shills are pushing anti meditation now?
You people truly truly are fucking scum. I fan't imagine anyone but scum wanting you to be around them
Kevin Ramirez
Yeah, makes sense. Thanks.
Dylan Reed
>naruto hands are satanic
kek
Oliver Campbell
are you incapable of understand english? nobody said shit about all meditation, me, and others in this thread who know what i mean are specifically talking about a subversive mind control type force being hidden under the guise of meditation, eastern religion, enlightenment, etc.
Cameron Fisher
Point me to a post that is an actual argument and not just a "it's satanic" please.
Mason Rivera
>Ego shit is retarded
You are retarded.
Brandon Perry
*sigh* idiots
Wyatt Nguyen
Well i certainly wouldnt want it... A[spoiler]nude[/spoiler]
Ryan Smith
and youre a kike faggot
Michael Sanchez
once again youre too retarded to understand english,
reread my last comment
Easton Lee
He can't.
John Foster
it's literally fucking nothing
Adam Green
this
yeah youre right, he cant understand english
Andrew Hughes
Alright, let me know when you have something to say.
Jaxon Roberts
back at you
Zachary Gray
>DURR da jooz mind controlz
Proof is valued. Not retarded speculation.
Leo Jackson
proof of what you retarded nigger?
Austin Martinez
No, not him. You. You don't have proof. You have half backed ideas. With no substance. Just stop.
Gabriel Smith
That hand signals are satanic.
Retard.
Kevin Moore
This is why nobody takes Cred Forums seriously.
Jaxon Brown
lol proof of what you moron?
Nicholas Anderson
this.
Liam Lee
Anyone saying meditation is a Jewish conspiracy is a fucking retard. Hitler practiced meditation.
Then again Jews do have a way of corrupting good things
Jayden Hall
That hand signals are satanic.
Retard.
Kayden Miller
...
Austin Mitchell
Look at all the burgers that meditate guess what you are a fool. Don't let people tell you to meditate and lose your ego your ego is very important your thoughts are too instead go out for a long walk and think about things or don't.
This entire push for eastern mysticism is part of the downfall of the west and subversive elements.
Even a poo in loo commented and no one told him to poo in the loo this just shows how you have lost your egos. Tell him to poo in loo and tell him to stop meditating and letting cows run wild destroying all of the plants with their over grazing.
The real thing to do is just self improvement and if you absolutely have to be spiritual then go for norse gods and ideas instead.
Isaac Rodriguez
This. This. This. This.
Come on guys. Fuck.
Yes, it can be dangerous if you allow demons to take control of you - but if you actually fucking do it properly it just makes you ten times more aware of yourself. It's a method of learning to understand your own mind and body. Fuck this thread is mentally retarded.
I'm sure Jews have turned Eastern religion into a way to attack Christianity though.
Adrian Price
What a dumbfuck. Your thread is empty, you said nothing about why THAT SPECIFIC KIND OF MEDITATION you're talking about is satanic. I'm specifying since you're trying to hide. Why is THIS PARTICULAR FORM OF (EVUL) MEDITATION mind control? Do you have anything to say at all?
Parker Scott
Hitler was a drug addict and killed himself, should we all do those things?
Checkmate, stormfag
Adrian Gonzalez
Fuck, you are dumber than shit.
Sage.
Julian Price
inb4 yes I've already said everything look at my images with one line sentences about goyim lol!
Austin Price
The thing is mate, demons and gods and shit aren't real.
Sebastian Gutierrez
I know without a doubt that's how those fucking bastard demons operate. They deceive. Every, "religion" that isn't Christian is blasphemous in a major way. At least one way. If one looks, they will find the religions counter to the Faith.
Jackson Morales
Correct, it can be hazardous. If you actually watch OG meditation schools from the East, you realize it's very serious to them. They take demons seriously.
The thing is, the West has largely turned it into a shitty fad, which makes it diluted a bit.
It's really not that bad, just fucking sit for ten minutes and focus on your breath and thoughts and you'll understand. You recognize things. It helps you learn focus and control over yourself. I guess it can be a little dissociating.
Jackson Torres
what "hand signals", the ones ive mentioned? what kind of proof do you want?
these hand symbols being connected to magic, the occult, satanism, etc is nothing new
just look up "satanic hand gestures" or "hollywood satanism" etc. to see what every other person who talks about these things think
i know mentioning "hollywood" makes the whole thing crazy but the same people who run it, run the music industry, major tv networks, etc are the same people who run the corporations and banks and governments.(the jews)
but anyway, yeah there is a lot to get into, if you honestly DO care about what im talking about, then look it up, watch a video, read an article
even read or watch critics of the idea's too, it doesnt matter.
Charles Jenkins
I'm not a stormfag you jackass, I'm trying to disprove the tenets of the OP. Fuck yourself.
Brandon Thomas
no they dont take you seriously because so many of you think trump is not controlled by globalists and other naive things like that
Blake Phillips
>look on youtube Alright, L8RSK8R
Adrian Martin
You can't take YouTube videos and things you read on the internet at face value. Have you ever practiced meditation for yourself and experienced demonic possession? Then how do you know you aren't being played as a fool?
Easton Martinez
hey retard read the thread, look it up, the reason i dont give a shit about talkign to you seriously is because you clearly have put zero effort into arguing anythign already said, or looking up what im talking about
"hand signals" are not satanic you faggot kike
certain hand gestures which are not even what meditation is about and are just "brands" of the elite are not the same
if you think the elite(who tend to be "religious") dont push this occult shit on you youre all retarded
Benjamin Parker
YES!
see fuck off you faggots, people see what is happening. they know what i mean.
this is another thing being used to destroy the west.
"eastern mysticism" has been perverted for the purpose of control.
glad others know
Hudson Jones
>do it properly
no shit you subhuman
Liam Phillips
You have no argument. Your references are YouTube. Everyone already considers you a dunce. Just give up, you're embarrassing yourself.
>Hurr da joos
Jordan Perez
fucking retard, what are you even going on about, fucking poitn something out and question it, read ont he internet for both peopel who disagree with me and agree with me, its not my own idea i dont have to explaint he history of kabbalistic hand gestures, CIA control of the "hippie movement", MKULTRA, "leftist/marxist" infiltration of universities, etc
its all apart of the same shit
the hand gestures channel the very same entities the "jewish" elites believe in.
unless you point something out and be specific there is no possible way i will explain it all, you simply have to do your own research or fuck off and leave this thread
Landon Watson
Do you even research far Eastern meditation? Or is YouTube your main source of information?
Holy fuck you're dumb. You are worse then "da jooz" because you spread retarded information with no real sources. Fucking kill yourself.
Landon Watson
Yes!! You know what is going on man. I'm amazed people dont see it yet. God bless ya man!
Ethan Morris
Good riddance!
Aaron King
>No sources Please kys
Evan Martinez
Implying there are not traditional Christian meditation ways.
Why would you start a thread if you are to lazy to provide sources for your claims? Atleast copy/paste a link you slow witted bastard.
Jayden Parker
Just google remote neural monitoring. They have tech for that shit you idiot.
Ryan Davis
No shit wtf why are you all so stupid? do you think people really just watch youtube videos read a fewe articles and move on?
you know jack squat about what im talking about. the meditation you talk about has not been criticized. the "egoloss", new age bullcrap goes a lot further than "breathing" "focus", "discipline", etc
ever looked into mahayan buddhism and the world behind it?
what about kabbalism or other occult practicies liek astral projection?
because that is all a whole other world being manipulated and pushed on younger kids
its the same as this "DMT" shit which tells kids if you do the drug and thinkt he way the "DMT gurus" do, you'll become enlightened and a better human, but really theyre just warping your mind
whether you think this is crazy is irrelevant because its everywhere, terrence mckenna, joe rogan, musicians like flying lotus, oneohtrix point never, animal collective, mgmt
just trendy occult shit
Blake Fisher
To meditate can also mean to think deeply or carefully about (something). Not the weird trance shit catholics do.
Adam Smith
>Everyone already considers you a dunce lol sorry you cant form an argument to anythign said
multiple people in here see what i mean how about you ask them too? or are you afraid
Kayden Howard
They are everywhere, man. Their deeds stain many things. God himself blessed me with great discernment in this. Best way is to fight spiritually. Spread the truth of the living God, Jesus Christ. Help to save souls, that's all we can do for now... until the charge. May God bless you.
Mason Hall
Thats what i learned. Allowed you to sink your median nerve into the meditation. But i have shifted universes already.
Family guy is much less cucked here.
Connor Edwards
>far Eastern meditatio
this is how i know youre a retard who doesnt know anything about this
do you know anything about eastern mysticism? at all? how about you prove it retard
Jeremiah Turner
>still going on about your nonsense point
fucking leave lol
Carter Lewis
>Implying there are not traditional Christian meditation ways.
Where did I do that you moron?
Jaxon Allen
It's troubling to see the ease by which otherwise sensible people rationalize nonsense to defend the practices of eastern mysticism. In fact, like Jewry, their first reaction is to deny there is any subversive effort taking place. Are these people blind?
'Meditations' used to be ponderings. Conscious thoughts. Now, the word defines a practice that spawns exactly the opposite. I have to hand it to the subverter who came up with that one.
Lucas Perry
You sound triggered, but you still haven't proven anything. Instead you continue name calling because that's all you have to say. How is it that hand signals make one susceptible to demonic possession?
Lucas Jenkins
b.b.but she is not sitting on any gravemound, or under a hanged guy. How will she gain the wisdom of the burried or hanged man, then there is no thing there?
And why does she sits so strange? That's not how you sit haug!
Logan Foster
lol youre an idiot where does it say i need to cite everything i say if i make a thread?
you do realize i "havent done that" yet multiple people in this thread see what i mean?
youre too lazy to even open up google and read, why would i put in the effort into sourcing every point i make for you
Isaiah Roberts
What do you know about eastern mysticism? Enlighten me instead of throwing insults like the childish dunce you are.
William Walker
Are there actually any other meditators here? I have never meditated with my hands out like that. Felt silly. Just wanted to relax and touch my spirit in a comfortable pose. What say you?
Juan James
but when I hum the perfect frequency it makes my head tingle weird and spooks me and that must be the jews like everything else that went wrong in my life that I'm obviously not at fault for because of my severe stage 3 autism
Asher Jenkins
This.
Jonathan Williams
lol people clearly know what i mean, its only morons like you who have trouble
when did i say you become demon possessed you idiot?
Jaxson Robinson
It doesn't say so, but it's common courtesy to provide sources for the claims being made in your thread. You are either too stupid or too lazy to do so and expect people to take what you say as facts. But it doesn't work that way, sorry. Your thread is garbage.
Isaac Flores
i asked you first
lol unlike you i have already talked a lot about actual eastern mysticism vs modern new age crap.
Joshua Bailey
Wow you are stupid. Your entire thread is about certain meditative postures and hand gestures having to do with demonic possession. But you don't remember because you are retarded.
David Gomez
(((They))) changed the definition of meditation and hoped no one would notice. It helps with their effort to rewrite Christianity and pretend world religions were always the same.
Luis Miller
It is just of bunch of religious fanatics looking for attention. Lonely people with soft minds.
Angel Anderson
It's your thread and you are the one making attacks on eastern meditation. >I asked you first
Yup, you are a retard.
Kevin Anderson
Yes man!! you put that really well, im extremely surprised by how many people think they will become "enlightened" by following the crap pushed by the media
originally, meditation was totally fine and it still is if done right, but the "turn on, tune in, drop out" thing was total subversion.
Mason Garcia
Buddhist here, I've always used meditation as a way to clear my mind. It's basically trying to not think about anything in order to calm yourself down and separate yourself from things that cause stress. I don't get how you 'meditate' on a subject. Isn't 'meditating on jesus' the exact same as thinking about jesus? You don't need to sit down and hum like a fool to think. You think all the time, so why bother calling it meditation? Or is this just the difference between how different faiths do it?
Leo Bell
Meditation used to mean thinking deeply about a subject. The eastern practice is a completely different act, but given the same word.
Chase Anderson
The only "people" agreeing with you are the ones with the same intellectual capacity as yourself. And they haven't provided evidence either. And you are still retarded.
Angel Ward
>expect people to take what you say as facts
no i dont you are just too stupid to understand what is being said, ive said many times:
anyone in this thread, look up anything i say and read it yourself, if YOU CARE TO.
If you want to talk about something Ive specifically said, i'd be more than happy to.
Daniel Reed
This EVERYTHING IS SATANIC Vigilant Citizen/Steve Anderson idiocy was funny at first, but now i realize i'm on board with some legit shizophrenics.
Bentley Parker
> Every fucking meditation position makes satanic & kabbalistic hand symbols Simply, not true. Can't say it more clear.
Trance / Meditative Extasis is an exceptional state which is given to the most prominent saints. You must be talking about evangelics who like to do weird things during their rites. youtube.com/watch?v=5oqcG1Ws5FE
Matthew Watson
Yes. Good Aryan European men center themselves through physical labor, rather it be simply exercising or manual labor.
Asher Bailey
>attacks on eastern meditation
literally never happened faggot
Connor Long
>You don't need to sit down and hum like a fool to think.
Exactly. I was a practitioner of Theravada Buddhism for years and what it taught me was how to "see clearly", meditate on what is actually happening, wordly things, love etc.
The Buddha never talked about all this weird stuff (((new age gurus))) push these days
Asher Roberts
Bezmenov said that yoga and meditation were exported to the West by academia to distract people and make us think that what's happening is irrelevant.
Alexander Gonzalez
>same intellectual capacity as yourself
literally back at you subhuman
the people who agree with me sound clear and understandable and can think on their own, you sound like you need every little thing explained to you.
Noah Lewis
>Every fucking meditation position makes satanic & kabbalistic hand symbols
Ive already said before this was hyperbole, wtf people
if you want to see what i mean
Google Image search "Meditation hands"
or "meditation position"
etc
Christopher Nguyen
Saying that another cultures religious traditions is demonic is offensive. If I said all Christians are mindless hypocritical fanatics I would be slandering their reputation. You refuse to acknowledge what you've previously posted and you still can't prove anything you've claimed. And you are retarded.
Kayden Hill
hello never mind the most Cred Forums philosopher ever was an ardent proponent of meditation an various sadhanas and thought they were the most Aryan thing ever
Chase Wood
>occult practicies liek astral projection
what makes it occult? someone told you it was? you just decided? its about as occult as having a fucking dream bro..
> you'll become enlightened and a better human, but really theyre just warping your mind
no ones saying that drugs will enlighten you man... its just a tool you can use to explore your subconscious, like meditation.. which like has already been said, must be used in to proper context... Just like there are a bunch of people who meditate and say their buddhist to be trendy, there's plenty of people who take drugs to looks "sophisticated" but are really just doing it to get fucked up and party, not to have introspective or meditative experience..
Honestly i think you might be paranoid schitzo and your overthinking this shit big time
Lucas James
>Every little explanation
You haven't explained anything at all. You've only made baseless claims.
Gavin Lopez
Exactly!
Yuri predicts it all when it comes to things pol talks about all the time, but when he says the eastern shit is perverted into some sort of deceiving thing, it must be crazy right?!?!
and i guess if youre against feminism youre a crazy muslim too?
Nicholas Jackson
>another cultures religious traditions is demonic is offensive
lol
nobody said that, what is being talked about is the subverted new age shit, this has been said so many times.
the "tool" theyre using comes from eastern mysticism..but if you know what the original religion say, it is not about this psychedelic crap pushed on us is.
Lincoln Wood
THIS IS MY KINDA THREAD!!!
Isaiah Smith
>what makes it occult? someone told you it was? you just decided? its about as occult as having a fucking dream bro..
do you just type a million made up points so you feel like you have this awesome rant or something lol?
no, every occultist from Cayce to Crowley to Blavatsky, etc uses this
every occultist(which are elites are) uses this.
and now people will tell you "this is the astral world", "this is what the astral world is like" "this is what this one recurring astral projection experience means"
and then people try to astral project and are really projecting ideas that have been taught to them which they then accept liek a religious person accepts a religion
obviously this doesnt happen with every type of meditation or to every person this has been mentioned over and over, but it happens often enough that several anons in this thread know what i mean
look into it if you want, or leave if you want, your choice
Andrew Clark
Some of these handsignals are ancient and go back to buddhism or hinduism
James Cruz
in essences no, but in reality yes.
what that russian soviet kgb defector spoke about i think is true and he speaks about meditaion/Poo inThe Loo/Beatles thing.
Forgot his name, trying to remember, cant be fucked. Check him on jew tubes.
p.s. disconnect yourself from what is up you gonna get upped sooner or later- up your ass
Caleb Campbell
You keep getting dumber...
Jonathan Cruz
>Every little explanation
lol where was this said?
Benjamin Barnes
exactly. they arent just coincidences. they mean things. the buddha never made those gestures though, theyre just pictures.
James Walker
this is LITERALLY 60 year old church woman speak
James Taylor
omg handsignals
satanic handsignals may exist. But there's also such a thing as mudras. Google them.
Daniel Bennett
His name is Yuri Nezmenov and he defintely said this all too. The Beatles, Jack Kerouac, Alan Ginsberg, Timothy Leary, Terrence McKenna, etc were all involved with the subversion
James Smith
lol still cant tell me where i said it because youre a retard kike, that screen shot shows nothing youve mentioned btw
Nicholas Collins
explanation of buddhist and hindu hand positions used in meditation and other spiritual practices is right here.
its the same type of energies, if you believe in those things
you dont know what literally means
Kevin Brown
The same words can have different contextual meanings for different people. Likewise symbols can be used differently depending on culture. Just because you saw "occultist" use similar symbols to oriental spiritual practices doesnt mean they mean the same things dumbfuck. Can you think critically?
Dominic Stewart
i literally do actually
i've literally talked to old church addicted bitches telling me that they think yoga and meditation is satanic. they even talked about the hand poses
you are fucking retarded
Austin Nguyen
Are you Jan Irvin?
Jace Hill
You can't even read what you wrote because you are retarded. All you have to do is scroll up to your original post and read that you think hand signals are satanic. But you won't because you are retarded.
Luke Cooper
Yuri Bezmenov.
Meditation can be bullshit, or it can be beneficial to your goals. Meditation basically just means focusing your mind on a single thing. Meditate on helping your race.
Jace Perez
>but when he says the eastern shit is perverted into some sort of deceiving thing, it must be crazy right?!?!
This was always a huge point of contention for me as an agnostic. While the effort of every intellectual was focused on smiting Christianity, eastern religions and spiritual practices were given a free pass and sometimes revered. Somebody might come out and denounce crystal healing as obvious quackery, but everything else was suspiciously ignored. It made me appreciate Buber and Nietzsche for having the intellectual courage to examine Buddhism and mysticism with a critical eye.
If you so much as speak out against this influence in the "Mindfulness" movement currently trying to gain influence in education, you're immediately branded an unaware, bigoted Christian zealot. The so-called skeptics are, of course, missing in action when anything other than Judeo-Christianity or Islam is being examined.
Jackson Williams
In your post. You don't remember because you seem to be mentally incompetent. It's a wonder you can post..
Brayden Foster
I think a lot of people here are (((blackpilled))), so they actually want to resort to that stuff, making their plan work without them even realizing. It's one of the things that lock demoralization in westerners IMHO.
Austin Nelson
>It's the same kind of energies
Prove it, downy
Cameron Hill
Youre such an idiot. The hand gestures are all used by different cultures for a reason. Because theyre tapping into something similar. Difference is, Christians, atheists, etc dont do those symbols, only weird cults do.
The hand gestures used these days are tuning you into the same energies, while idiots contemplate "ideas" theyve been given through the media. the two combiner and create an effect that feels "spiritual", same as using drugs and reading the vedas or something.
Except the ideas beign pushed are toxic
look up Yuri Bezmenov like people have mentioned
Cameron Watson
some of it may actually be satanic, or satanic in the wrong hands. Much of ancient wisdom can be used for both good and evil.
>The Tao can be used for both good and evil -The tao te ching
Christopher Baker
youre a retarded nigger if you think that is the point being made in this thread.
i bet those old ladies werent even saying that and your chimp brain just couldnt understand so you simplified it in ways your brain could process.
James James
>this is what Cred Forums has come to
Juan Gray
its a fucking hand position do you think flipping someone the bird has some mystical power too?
Caleb Smith
When you pray to God, you are meditating. Now the yoga stuff is just sexual exercises.
Anthony Bennett
lol yup, exactly like i thought, you cant do it so you freak out like a faggot
Isaac Lewis
>Used by different cultures differently >Because they mean the same thing
yup i know all this, that middle finger hand thing isnt the same btw.
Anthony Parker
hahah you still cant do it!
Jaxson Foster
I did. You refuse to look at your own post because you know how retarded it looks.
Retard.
Easton Ortiz
hmm, lets think for a second here, you make a hand gesture, and it fills you with spritual energy, wow so different
idiot
Gavin Torres
Jesus does it too. Or is he a representative of Jewish mind control... ?
Jackson Howard
>The Tao can be used for both good and evil
exactly, anyone who has read about these things knows this.
the elites believe in this crap, whether people like it or not.
Daniel Scott
/thread There's nothing more to it.
Christian Morgan
The elite kike globalists actually do
Luis Lee
Lol, hes afraid to read what he wrote.
Retarded and a coward
Jace Roberts
>>Used by different cultures differently >>Because they mean the same thing
yeah kinda like drinking water or "oww" you braindead faggot
Jonathan Howard
And, Yuri called the cultural Marxists "shmucks". That was clearly deliberate
Robert Anderson
>Satanic >Jewish Pick one.
Adam Perez
Aww, he resorts to name calling to cover up his stupidity.
Pathetic
Easton Morales
lol kike you cant argue anything said here
Joshua Ross
what post, when did you link to a post? you havent you just keep making the same point over and over
William Moore
They are used differently because they have different meanings. And you are still slow as shit lol
Robert Watson
Say to my face snow negro. Your shithole has never contributed anything through human history. Stupid ice negro, stop piggybacking on other whites achievements you scum
Noah Carter
haha lol, those words mean nothing, show me one time i said anything you said i did.
youre just butthurt you couldnt understand basic english so now youre chimping out
Leo Baker
The very first post you mindless idiot.
Isaiah Young
I don't have to, you should know because you wrote them. You're only showing how dumb you are lol
Juan Myers
Exactly man. Same with the other drug use, video game obsession, cartoon crap, believing kike trump will fix everything...
the (((blackpill))) just leads to materialism and people trying to comfort themselves with subverted crap they shove down your throat to make you feel better
Bentley Butler
It depends on which mudra you are trying to use. Different ones help focus on different "chakras" or whatever
>I actively meditate and it is making me more redpilled
Christopher Jones
thats not the same hand gesture retard, and its also a picture
Bentley Brown
>Satanic >Jewish
pick two
Andrew Parker
go back to /x/ you literal google
Nathan Flores
lol what are you from tumblr or something?
Jayden Myers
The skypes numbers in this thread are overwhelming.
Bentley Cruz
that is his name yes now i remember. Subversion is no1 weapon against nations. Meditation being part of it.
89830587
If you into self discovery there are many ways to it - but you must detach from the society and not influence/preach to anyone by whatever the fuck you see or think you saw.
Isaac Perez
>literally resorting to ignoring my post
lol
literally not used differently, theyre hand gestures used to generate "spiritual energies"
Dylan Allen
I can't believe how many Cred Forumslacks fell for the meditation jew
Gabriel Gomez
there's nothing to argue
you're spouting retarded nonsense
Aiden Martinez
No.
But you are retarded.
Adrian Robinson
and when did i attack eastern mysticism LOL my god youre dense
Juan Miller
>The retard calling people retards
Kek, it gets funnier and funnier
Colton Green
doesnt even make sense retard, none of your points pertain to anything i said and youre just a dumb kike who keeps taking up comment space.
Brody Brown
When you said meditation is satanic because of hand gestures.
Retard.
Brandon Green
>literal google
>reciting memes
good goy
Liam Williams
exactly of course this one kike will pretend this is some sort of crazy, zany conspiracy.
Grayson Sanders
No, you just don't want to admit that your entire thread is trash and no one takes you seriously.
And you're retarded
Justin Cox
...
Robert Kelly
Skypes sliding this shit into oblivion. user is definetly on the right path.
Dylan Brooks
>nothing to argue
exactly, now fuck off kike
James White
and youre a retarded faggot
Blake Harris
>trying this hard
Jordan White
hur dur when did i say that faggot
you literally cannot find a time but your retarded subhuman brain just cant handle it
Jonathan Russell
>Durr I made a thread about satanic Jew meditation but I can't scroll to the top of the page and read my original post because I'm afraid of how retarded I look
Matthew Nguyen
oh yes nobody has commented agreeing with me, which you conveniently ignored every post from lol
all you can do is slide the thread
Jaxson Gutierrez
>I have no point so I get angry and call people names
Retarded.
Connor Stewart
how does that mean meditation is satanic? are you 12?
Jack Roberts
youre right that is exactly what you do lol
Julian Martin
In your original post at the top of the page.
Retard.
Michael Russell
Just lie down on your back in a dark room for 10 minutes but instead of sleeping focus on breathing, relaxing your muscles and feeling grateful you're not a google.
It really is a great way to start the day.
Cameron Williams
and where does it say that
go ahead and green text it, quote it, screen shot whatever
you cant faggot
Kevin Mitchell
It doesn't. It's what you said.
Retard.
Wyatt Cox
Poor thing in this much denial.
Retard.
Gavin Thomas
>Meditation basically just means focusing your mind on a single thing. Meditate on helping your race.
yeah when i was 13-18 my "meditaion" was focused on big boobs and big ass. Somehow did not happen till i was 20.
MEditaion = deatched from the fist coming towards your face. Or Meditaion = fine ass girl going to screw another guy because you being emo.
Right here right now, see what it is, no fucking daydream shit
Hudson Thompson
Tantric masturbation helps with the process, I find.
Lincoln Rodriguez
Scroll to the very first post.
Retard.
Camden Gonzalez
thats not meditation, and thats not whats being talked about
>a google this forced meme is retarded
Dominic Edwards
Thats right you cant lol
truly pathetic attempt
Carter Hughes
that is meditation, and you talk like a dirty fucking skype
Jackson Sullivan
>still cant do it
William Cook
>Durr hand signs is evil demon worship!!!
Said a retard.
Nathan Turner
just because occultists use it doesnt mean its inherently occult... Fucking hitler was a painter does that mean everyone who learns how to draw is a power hungry nazi?
theres all sorts of mind control out there, but so long as you are skeptical and see the propaganda it wont have much if any effect on you..
Its like my friend who absolutely refuses to watch movies because he thinks every movie part of a subversive jewish conspiracy.
Like im not going to deprive myself of have the awesome experiences of lucid dreaming, astral projection, and psychedelics just because someone says "ooo the scary easern mysticism boogeyman is gonna get yaa!" like no i can decide for myself and have my own experience with it regaurdless of what propaganda there is around it.
stupid people will always blindly follow stupid trends.. you dont have to be a "DUDE WEED LMAO" stoner faggot to smoke a joint now and then. Some people can think for themselves and others cant, thats all there is to it
Jayden Wilson
no its not and you talk like a nu pol cuck
Wyatt Green
>Still won't view his original post because he knows how idiotic it is
Lol, just go to bed
Charles Baker
no shit man..no shit to all of this which is why im surprised it has to be said so many times...
Still it's known that the elite forces use religion, drugs, entertainment, etc to control the masses
Isaiah Davis
>still cant find a quote
youre in denial kike lol
Jackson Wood
>Still can't do it
He means he can't bring himself to face his own stupidity.
Ryan Jones
The quote is in the first post
Retard.
Leo Hughes
yes thas exactly what youre having trouble doing
Brandon Watson
Paying attention to your breath is a type of meditation.
Meditation literally means focusing your mind on one thing. Prove me wrong.
>nu pol cuck ok
Christopher Edwards
what quote? there are so many sentences, its too bad you cant find something to you know greentext and stop acting like a stubborn faggot.
Nicholas Miller
Holy shit americans really are as retarded as everyone says.
Justin Cook
There ya go
Retard.
Joshua Murphy
How are you focusing on your breathing while also being grateful about something moron?
and yes it is ok, you will learn someday
Landon Richardson
The first post at the top.
Retard.
Noah Jackson
>Doesn't even understand meditation
Dumbass.
Landon Thompson
hahah wow retard all you do is prove you cant argue. how is that a greentexting a quote,
i even said there were many sentences and to go ahead and point one out but you cant
it has been clarified so many times in this thread that meditation in the traditional sense and meditation in the modern new age sense are different
traditional meditation is not being sold to us the way modern transcendental meditation, psychedelic drugs, astral projection, etc are
but you still keep focusing on "all meditation is satanic" which a point only you keep thinking about
i guess all these people in this thread who had no trouble understanding were all just so retarded that they magically grew better reading comprehension skills than you
Ian Lewis
even focusing on two things is still considered "meditative". Also the guy who posted that was making sort of a joke, if you didn't notice. I thought skypes had a sense of humor
Jayden Hernandez
you literally cannot meditate on two things at once
you truly are an angry ignorant faggot
Asher Flores
>"meditative
how? and also thats not meditation you can try and twist it but no it isnt meditation
and im joking too, fuck off
Jacob Diaz
Lol, he still won't scroll to the top of the page and read his own words.
Pitiful. >Everyfucking meditation position makes satanic & kabbalistic hand symbols
I know you'll act like a faggot and deny this but here's your proof
Zachary Myers
>You can't
Retard.
Nathaniel Reed
The definition of meditation isn't that strict. It can just mean focusing your mind, but not necessarily focusing it only on one thing. Also, in the meditation excercise the other user described, one could begin relaxing and focusing the mind using breathing practices, then shift the focus to their gratitude for not being a google.
Here's the defintion: >think deeply or focus one's mind for a period of time, in silence or with the aid of chanting, for religious or spiritual purposes or as a method of relaxation.