Calling All Oldfags

By the time occupy shit happened, the name Anonymous had attracted all kinds of normie faggots . Anyone who wasn't one knew that occupy was nothing more than the American version of not being able to poo in the loo.

I remember when Anonymous was at its peak. Very libertarian, anti-government. I remember the successful campaign to support the people of Egypt during their revolution, supplying information on proxy servers, protection from pepper spray etc., all translated into Arabic. Cred Forums hasn't changed that much, but Cred Forums has.

Mostly libertarian. Cred Forums had lots of racism, not sure if it still does.

In all fairness, right-wing libertarians also protest against wall street, since it's in cahoots with the Government, and 2008 only proved that they're exploiting each other at the expense of taxpayers.

Saying nigger and faggot was practically a requirement on Cred Forums back in the day

Fucking redditors are ruining this site

I've been here since 2006. I'd known of the place before that but stayed away.

No, it was never, ever left wing.

Liberal? In a sense. It was mostly anarchist.

It was ALWAYS racist, though not in a Stormfag way, just in a "lol niggers" way. It was flooded with pedophiles. I mean actual pedophiles.

Basically it was just trolls and pedos. If saying nigger on a dead kids memorial page got a laugh out of people, it was done.

The closest they came to politics was the way it intersected with hacking.

That's why Bill O'Reilly called us a Far Left website - He thought "we" hacked Sarah Palins email for fucking political reasons. It was just done to be done and then laughed about. Especially stupid since Fox had already called us Anarchists years before.

Also, Cred Forums heavily supported Assange back in the day, and that was the closest we came to getting eternally BTFO by the feds, who thankfully just dropped the hammer on ED and lulzsec.

But yeah, I mean, Cred Forums didn't really have a political affiliation beyond making normies mad.

This is from back in the day;

youtube.com/watch?v=qq01I8UzaHE

(not from 2011, from like 2008 or some shit - and you have to remember E.D. and Cred Forums/other chans were all the same thing)

Cred Forums was called an internet hate machine years before it became associated with Trump and white nationalism.

Occupy was because we were all Paul-ites back then.

Wikileaks was because they wuz fucking with our autistic brethren.

I mean, fucking Weev was associated with Aaron Schwartz and "leftist" hackers back then.

see thats why the nostalgiafags are always full of shit

Cred Forums never was fully "libertarian" in the open borders pro drugs sense and Cred Forums was not better than it is now, rather the opposite

occupy wall street started before Cred Forums existed and Cred Forums did not support it because they agreed with the protesters but because anti banks anti jews this kinda stuff

Cred Forums has nothing but generic porn now.

It's not so bad. Cred Forums took it's place, and more of the esoteric stuff is on the other boards which are more heavily trafficked now.

Only thing is a dramatic downturn in illegal shit. Cred Forums used to be drenched in bomb threats, death threats, gore of dubious origin and CP and other illegal porn.

That stuff all got flushed away.

Anway, we spent more time fighting against Swedish autistic pedophiles and each other over Boxxy than SJW's and Normies.

It always was libertarian.
Christian fascism and anti degenerate is a backlash reaction to SJW creeping terror that rose to power and pissed everyone off.

>Before Cred Forums existed

Cred Forums is /new/. There's no distinction.

Nah, we had Stormfags here from the very outset. Which is why mootles kept Shutting It Down.

Anyway, some nostalgia. Pic related. The reason we have captcha.

Obama had a very good shill game. He was able to flood most every fairly popular forum and comment section across the internet with piles of scripts. So if you were on this site around '08 or even '12 you might think there were many leftists on the boards.

Come on then, give us the spraypaint message if you've got it.

No.. But there was equal left/right politics. It wasn't just rightwing. There used to be a lot of commie posters.

But most radical opinions were generally troll opinions until people started to actually delve into those kinds of politics.

No it wasn't. I've been here since 08. I haven't been here for years. I only recently came back. A lot and a lot is the same. Back then it was mostly Ancaps and socialists arguing. Ancaps and libertarians were the majority small number of stormfags.

more libertarian than (socialist) left, esp Cred Forums
i remember when first actual stormweenies came to it. a lot less real nazis back then.

please, this place thrived on calling people niggers for as long as I remember. been here since 2007, same year as wow
used to be pretty libertarian in that people's liberties shouldn't be infringed and that people with freedom to do whatever would be able to create an utopia
This traditional shit though, I like it better. People are saying nigger less now then before

You don't get threads on the virtues of privatising the roads or why banking should be unregulated anymore.

Cred Forums is contrarian. I've been Marxist-Leninist from the beginning I came here

sorry, release date was 2004, been here since 2005 actually.

Ideology is for fags.

We do it for the lulz.

Nope. I remember back in 2008 I used to think this place is horrible because people called me fucking niggerfaggot everywhere and got bans for just asking dumb shit.

Cred Forums has gone to shit, people actually spoonfeed and blue boards are "nice" now.

>I remember the successful campaign to support the people of Egypt during their revolution
I was involved at the time too and you are wrong!

We never supported the people of Egypt, the thing that rattled us was the Egyptian Government cutting the internet and this had to be opposed - of course it was for the keks as well but at the time this was mainly a Cred Forums movement.

It was originally a lot more apolitical, just contrariant/anti-establishment. And the establish was at the time the right wing neocons. But even then, it was more anarchy/libertarian. Even now I think most people are some degree of libertarian. The website has not transformed from left to right, but it has gone from purely anarchy/libertarian to a mix of libertarian and traditionalism/nationalism/anti-degeneracy (of course everyone is still fapping to the same degenerate shit secretly).

Cred Forums was edgy. It wasn't particularly liberal, just young. People would argue about anything, so you'd see a lot of common talking points from high school or university. Generally though, edgy facts won out over feelings.

People may have been somewhat socialist or anarchist, but for the most part they just didn't understand politics. They really hated niggers though. Younger posters are always going to be a jumbled mix of leftists, there's nothing you can do about it. It's what they teach in schools.

People would contradict you just for its own sake, and some things could be contradicted while others couldn't. People on Cred Forums primarily focus on the facts of the matter, not how they identify themselves or enumerate their views. The only thing that changed is time advanced.

Cred Forums really isn't that right-wing now, either. At least not more than Cred Forums was left-wing. The average age has definitely gone up. Cred Forums agrees on more things than Cred Forums used to, but that's not saying much. I'd pin this on time as well, as some things really are true and can only be accepted, like niggers being awful.

Its neither liberal or conservative.

Cred Forums supports the edgiest fucks it can. if trump wasnt the running theyd be backing rand paul or some thrid party fucks.

the rest of Cred Forums is just edgy neckbeards and lonely faggots.

this place, while fun, is still just plebs living for shock value.

its a cesspool, its always been a cesspool, its fine that its a cesspool.

It was always contrarian, that's all
/new/ was shut down for being stormfront 2.0 though

Can confirm, would have voted Rand Paul.

THIS
DOG BLESS
THIS

Now you listen here fresh meat. I was browsing \pol\ before the towers hit the plane. This board was always a bored of peace. I can tell you that much friendo.

this has been my memory too.

used to be far more libertarian. i liked that better. this traditionalism is cancer. you can't go back to some mythical point in the 1950s time.

we can only move forward.

i hope that pol via kek gets on board with the singularity and finally transforms into a future/ist looking place

True, but globalist monstrity that is the current establishment all over the western world has become so bad that support the edgy fucks has become correct and virtuous thing to do. This place is degerate but the world around us became so shitty that we ended up looking like traditionalists by comparison.

Well it was still extremely racist and offensive... it's just that back then republicans were the PC ones who got triggered by everything, so we would laugh at shit like fox news doing that "hackers on steroids" story.. but it wasn't particularly political in any real way

Slightly true.

We pretty much created OWS on Cred Forums.

We also used to raid right wing shows like Ghost, that white supremacist (forgot his name), fox, etc.

it was also almost all atheists and degenerates who enjoyed shock porn.

Pretty much if anything it was left wing libertarian anarchy. Never cared too much about politics, though there were a lot of religious raids I guess you could call leftist.

The whole point of Cred Forums is to be able to think and debate unpopular ideas that may or may not work IRL.

>Cred Forums used to be drenched in bomb threats, death threats, gore of dubious origin and CP and other illegal porn.
>That stuff all got flushed away.
I remember this. These were good days of fun, at least for me.

That flushing killed Cred Forums, as far as I'm concerned. That and new boards becoming subdivisions of Cred Forums

I have been here since 07 and its always the opposite of whatever is popular. This place was Obama central in 08 once the Paul tards fucked off.
Did you know Ron Paul is Jewish?

I remember Cred Forums used to be the underbelly of the internet where going there was pure anarchy, and memes.

Memes before memes. Nothing but memes. Now memes are cringeworthy. It's sad.

Yes it was, but in a naive 'rebellion against my parents' kind of way, not in a college marxist kind of way. The current hard-right flavor of Cred Forums is certainly more informed than the previous 'fuck you for making me go to church dad' Cred Forums was.

>We pretty much created OWS on Cred Forums.

this is completely false.

Adbusters, which is a Canadian anti-consumer commie rag. They initiated the call.

OWS gained traction through many formats. Not just Cred Forums and Cred Forums wasnt even a massive part like other sites.

THIS
So much this.

There was not really a political direction at all - the place was filled with alsorts but on the whole there was Libertarian feel, particularly when it came to internet freedoms.

YES. the old Cred Forums (or /new/ or whatever you want to call it) was pretty much Neo-Nazi and any deviation was JIDF but flags pretty much cooled that aspect.

At that time Cred Forums was pretty much the hub of happenings here and it was a damn site better than the trap-filled shitehole it is today.

This.
Moot killed it. He kept trying to create runoff boards like /soc/ and other places to try to make it less and less random.

It was more libertarian leaning but there used to be more lefties hanging about, not the majority but there was definitely a better balance.

Now it's as much an echo chamber as reddit is. Any opposing opinion is a shill now or CTR.

No it was not. That's a myth pushed by reddit and leftcuck shills. /new/ was deleted by moot because as he said it had turned into stormfront. Cred Forums today is more liberal than it has ever been

It was deleted because Moors gf at the time was a major Obama loved which is why we had the sticky up warning against becoming storefront.
Ultimately it was R9K that got us deleted by whining to moot after their deletion that new was still up in spite of being racist.

FPBP

>Is that true?
No, Cred Forums has always been counter-culture.

In the early aughts when Cred Forums was growing it was against the grain to be liberal/left wing, because christian conservatives and scientologists would shit their pants and get trolled hard.

>other boards like /new/ / Cred Forums as well?
Briefly, tail end of when Cred Forums was formed. But Cred Forums was always more right-leaning because it formed after the swell of Cred Forums and the general aging of the board's populace.(Cred Forumstards got old, got money, became less liberal)

Cred Forums isn't left or right winged. It's based on who gets booty-blasted the most. Currently that's SJWs, especially after GG. Before it was conservatives, but they don't rise to the bait as well anymore because they're used to it. Before SJWs it was furries.

>why so many here have shifted completely against the left.
I'm actually pretty old lefty/pol/, I just don't like the current democratic party and I'm a liberal, not a regressive left. I'd say about 40% of the board is left-leaning, but hates their own party currently for it's 1984 leanings.

Cred Forums didn't exist in 2004 /new/friend

It was much less of an echo-chamber in the /n/ and /new/ days. It's never been left-wing though.

So, Cred Forums itself has been pretty liberal. I mean you have to take it for what it actually was: an anonymous web forum for weebs and otakus. Generally speaking, most of the degenerates fall into the lowest tax bracket where ramen is actually on the food pyramid. They were social outcasts, and generally accepted one another. They tended to identify as liberal, because it was easy. They were actually fairly libertarian, here's why.

Everything that was done as a troll, was done for the lulz. The more the liberals were having fun just poking and prodding around to get a rise out of people who shouldn't be so insensitive, they became labeled bullies and trolls. They were raiding games for little kids, creating fake polls to get national attention, and even got mootykins on Time magazine,

Fox was the one initially calling out the cyber bullying and claiming they were getting their 'safe space' violated. They were at 'war' with Cred Forums because of the antics it has committed. It's ironic now, they're the ones leveraging the cyber bullying today and calling it free speech. So we've really turned a containment group into a bunch of folks who are seemingly politically active because the things we've always done and the freedoms we've always enjoyed are under fire. This time, it's not by Fox news; again with the irony!

So Cred Forums has, in essence, always been the same. I'm going to say it's been fairly libertarian. We love our free speech, personal liberties, and state's rights. It's not until these liberties we have taken for granted came under fire we really identified with the right.

If you really are an oldfag (2005 reporting) you will remember that Cred Forums used to be a fun place, lot's of creativity and various 'raid threads'.

I don't go there now, not because I have grown up (I will bet I am older than you anyway) but it's now just porn/trap central and I can find that elsewhere if I wanted.

>identified as pretty liberal.

That's what I meant. :x

>But yeah, I mean, Cred Forums didn't really have a political affiliation beyond making normies mad.
this is 100% right.

>Cred Forums was counter-culture thus left
fuck off with those lies. counter culture in the early aughts was counter to all other cultures back then (left/right, stormfag, anti-racists). Cred Forums was always driven by the lulz. it was post-polical in its obsession of lulz above all. it trolled leftist, and right wing communities for the lulz. ONLY AFTER chanology and normie attention, did the normies "became" anonmoose and there was a shit show.

That ban lmao

murk loar ausfag

I remember myspace pays.

>total weaving lies into a bullshit narrative.

Cred Forums was all about the lulz and lulz isn't simply a desire to say anything. lulz was always linked to fucking someone's shit up. you had to milk the lulz from lulzcows. free expression wasn't important in the lulz.

08 no not that old, but this

Casually lurked & posted since 09 and it's basically anti-establishment/ anti-PC & groupthink at all times

Welcome to edgetown. We have anything your heart desires.

TRANNIES, RAIDS, PORN, RACISM, ARGUMENTS, CONSERVATIVES, LIBERALS, ANARCHISTS, FAGGOTS AND FUCKTARDS.

COME ONE COME ALL AND BASK IN THE GLORY THAT IS CESSPOOL

We used to win. We used to win raids. We used to win at DDOSing. We used to be respected throughout the internet. And now we got nothing. We got nothing folks.

You've got these 'shitposters' and 'happening fags'. They don't know what they are doing. They make a thread "it's happening". It is not happening. They don't know when it's happening. But I know when it is happening folks, 100 percent of the time. I know when it's happening.

I am going to make Cred Forums great again. And I'll do it. I'm not beholden to any single board. No board has me in their pocket. Not like these other faggots. When I’m President you'll get happenings, believe me.

You'll get so many happenings you won’t know what to do with yourselves. You are going to be sick of it. You're going to be saying to me "Trump we can't take it, please we need a break from habbenings" and I am going to say "No, it is happening" and it is going to happen. It is going to happen folks.

We are all going to make Cred Forums great again. It is going to be beautiful. I love you all.

>I remember almost everyone here getting behind the Occupy Wall Street protests.

Nice revisionism, faggot. Cred Forums was making fun of OWS right from the moment the first thread about it popped out and suspicion arose about it being nothing but a viral campaign for adbusters or some shit.

Trips had spoken, Hiroshimo Nagasaki must give Cred Forums over to Trump

Media was calling Cred Forums "radical leftists" much like today they're calling all of Cred Forums "alt-right."

They obviously don't have a fucking clue, they just want to paint a forum with free speech in a negative light. Anyone that lurks for a few hours knows that Cred Forums and the rest of Cred Forums can't be lumped under one political label without looking ridiculous.

Obama was never popular here, nor was Bush, McCain, or Romney. Much like Milo threads they were forcefully injected.

this.

I came to Cred Forums to see what people here were saying about it.

I designed the website for adbusters and went to NYC to take pictures so I was kind of interested at watching how it played out.

>Also, Cred Forums heavily supported Assange back in the day, and that was the closest we came to getting eternally BTFO by the feds, who thankfully just dropped the hammer on ED and lulzsec.

Funny, now Cred Forums supports Assange even more than back then while liberals turned around and are fully against him for "helping le mean orangeman Trump".

Nice, to be fair OWS did raise very good points and addressed important concerns at first, until it degenerated into a clusterfuck of unwashed hippies in drum circles and attention whoring trannies demanding "white CIS men" to speak last or some shit.

there are a few shared concerns between liberals and conservatives. Cred Forums and reddit or whatever.

i mean nobody really like the bankers or globalist elites.

i like Cred Forums for the reason that it names the jew and doesnt sugar coat nigger behavior.

its just more genuine to me.

I'll add:

Obama, McCain, and Romney never had a big online campaign here. Ron Paul's campaign was the first politician to utilize Cred Forums's potential. I suspect Trump staff/US military took a note from Paul's online campaign.

Been here since 06, this place has warped and changed but to spare you the details of my own experience here it basically was like this
>no one gives a fuck at all
>anyone trying to incite movements were dumb and if it went beyond DDoSing a place or prank calling then it was too hard and didn't matter
>only exception was chanology and no one wanted another one of those
>around the time of ACTA/SOPA the majority (whether vocal or actual) of Cred Forums takes a stand as political entities and not just faffing spectators
>descent into discourse and education
>horus heresy occurs and mass exodus and banning and shit
>Cred Forums among other places are irrevocably changed into imitations of what they were before when no one gave a shit
>which doesn't work especially considering Cred Forums never really didn't give a shit
>/n/ meme'd too hard so /new/ was made and they racist'd too hard so moot deleted them then the whole website was redpill'd too hard so Cred Forums was made and Cred Forums crusaded too hard so it was cucked by Cred Forums harbor
Basically people back in the day may have thought the place was liberal because they were liberal and no one discussed politics and now that people do and hold around the same values they try to retcon not believing that they could have ever had fun with or been friends with people who hold contrary views to them

Throughout most of its early history Cred Forums had been centered around various types of felonious criminal activity, and it is a commonly known fact that 95% of criminals vote democrat, so you could objectively say it was a far left website.

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At one point, some media outlets and conservatives considered places like Cred Forums to be part of the "far left". I laugh at how the tables have turned and we are the "home" of the "alt-right".

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Lmao dis is Snacks ban letter right?

From what I can recall Cred Forums had always been against the norm except when it came to kittens and cats. Politically it was a collective of both sides of the spectrum that's why you have Anonymous and Anonymoose. It wasn't until chanology that most of the left went to other boards and dispersed leaving Cred Forums with a majority right wing userbase. But I do remember most people were hoping for Obama back in 08.

And yes there were a lot of CP and Gore back then, I remember users archiving CPs in images or something

>we can only move forward

That's the whig interpretation of history, and this is not necessarily the case. It's definitely possible that at a certain point, people will want to return to a more authoritarian, orderly society.

Nope, early Cred Forums was about dank memes and shitposting.

>we can only move forward

That's the whig interpretation of history, and this is not necessarily the case. It's definitely possible that at a certain point, people will want to return to a more authoritarian, orderly society.

Yes. Cred Forums in general used to be leftist. Obama's election is when things changed, when the right wing wasn't mainstream anymore. Then degenerate right wingers became the counterculture, and here we are today.

Cred Forums was literally a spinoff of something awful's anime tentacle death rape porn whorehouse created because lowtax wouldn't let them post pictures of little girls getting eviscerated by sharpened dicks.

that and the fact that he would ban users for posting any pics which did not include the girl's feet

>newfag
>tits or gtfo
>the stalking of cracky-chan
>bullying/laughing at camwhores

I guess Cred Forums was libertarian, definitely not the epitome of social justice.

Wait I thought capcha was made to shut anontalk up?

>definitely not the epitome of social justice.

Cred Forums literally raped an 11-year-old girl and killed her dad.

This

'06 here
It wasn't so much left-wing as it was just against Bush but then I spent most of of my time on Cred Forums so I don't have the best picture
>been here for a decade
>my life hasn't changed since high school

Kill me

Oldefagge here.

4chans heyday was during the Bush administration. Being antiestablishment meant being liberal. Then the paradigm shift happened with Obama.

Imageboards have always been counterculture. Whatever is mainstream, imageboards will oppose. So yes, Cred Forums used to be liberal in many ways.

Here, have an OC pepe.

who are we going to support after Trump wins then?

Trump until he does something we don't like(which will be immediately since the president doesn't run shit)

>we
Speak for yourself, faggot. I'm not one of you alt-right cunts.

in the beginning of Cred Forums there were some really nice political philosophy threads that came to the conclusion that a mix of anarcho capitalism and social liberalism was the best way of government, this was the closest thing to consensus I've ever seen here, we were always national socialist though, that was the reason /new/ was shut down.
I distinctily remember Cred Forums spammed with Hitler threads while /new/ was down.
I think alot of user wear the mask of natsoc due to the overwhelming pressure from the kikes on the parts of society effecting young white males.
We were never left wing though, just newfags surfing mount stupid fresh our of highschool/plebbit.

That's pretty liberal though.

I've been here since we still had a lolicon board, Cred Forums has never been even remotely left-wing/liberal, the only difference between Cred Forums now and when I first started lurking 12 years ago is that Cred Forums used to be a lot more weeaboo

No. Cred Forums was at-most anarchistic. New was originally axed for being libertarian/national socialist, but was later reinstated by popular demand after the opinions moot got mad about simply shotgunned out all over the site.

>We were never left wing though, just newfags surfing mount stupid fresh our of highschool/plebbit.

/new/ and Cred Forums never were. But OP's talking about Cred Forums as a whole.

>Anarchists

I feel like most oldfags haven't really changed. But over the last decade we've watched the left morph into a censorious totalitarian force, which flies in the face of the freedom-of-expression that most of us on this (ostensibly) anonymous board hold dear.