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>it's another divide up the Cred Forumsacks episode
Getting real fuckin tired of these threads I gotta sage
I am an atheist, strong and proud. What does Cred Forums think of me?
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GAS THE SKYPES RACE WAR NOW
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Proud of what? How shite are you that you can only define yourself by what you are not?
We're a Kek board now, you fucking cuck.
But keep worshiping Joseph's wife's son like a Good Goy
>Proud of believing nothing exploded into everything for no reason.
You must have a lot going on in your life.
Why are you getting so defensive, christcuck? I simply said that I am an atheist. At what point in my comment did I define my entire character around that?
Fedoras = communist good goyim.
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I've never seen a strong atheist. They are usually fat sacks of depressing shit. I have a hard time believing your statement.
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Christianity is pure and the ultimate redpill.
End of story
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>le fedora meme
>You don't want to be like these guys, right goyim?
Even God was even screwed over by the skypes...
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This is why Christianity is always going to be part of Cred Forums. On the one hand, people try to attack it by calling is Jewish, and on the other, people try to attack it for being the religion which led to the Holocaust.
Atheists can't make up their minds on how to attack it ideologically.
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This is some good reading, mane.
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I'm an agnostic myself but i believe Christianity has important values necessary for the Western world. It's just some stuff during the Revelations that turned me off from that faith.
Daily Reminder that Christianity was the Marxism of its day - a jewish movement designed to appeal to the lowest common denominator and overthrow western civilization so that Jews could divide and conquer it.
fucking christian faggots
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I am gay but nothing will give me greater joy than having a Christian family. My God and my children will love me more than any man could.
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>pure
>greedy
>manipulative
>all lies
you're allowed to pick 3
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Absolutely Cucked.
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Controlled opposition is at the core of Jewish power in the West. They know that a counter-reaction against their predatory lending and other bad business practices is always brewing, so Jews work to provide an outlet for the goyim's frustrations, and that means building an anti-Jew movement that they control. You will never find any serious resistance to Jewish hegemony within any Christian church. It's controlled opposition that bows down to the Jew.
>I've never seen a strong atheist.
>I have a hard time believing your statement.
>I've never seen
>I have a hard time believing
>My God and my children will love me more than any man could.
There's hope for you yet, user. All the best.
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>le ebin no true Scottsman fallacy
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Hehe god goy, love those that hate you! If you kill your enemies they win!
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Fucking worthless cucks. Hail Gods.
>can't make up their minds
Yeah, it must seem like that to you. But to me it's more like we're spoiled for choice.
>false equivalency
Fedoras and LARPagans are ignorant in their hated of Christ. Repent and become wise, you fool.
Go get raped and kill yourself
I love you all
Eat shit, faggot.
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Don't be silly, it's neither of those things. Mainly because the holocaust didn't happen.
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>implying the beliefs themselves aren't relevant
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muh shekels!!!
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Go back to r/atheism, faggot
I'm an atheist who thinks many of the values of Christianity are good. Why do we need to talk about God? Whether God exists or not evidently doesn't affect our current situation, since believers and atheists can come together and discuss politics and shit without invoking deities' (non)existence as reason for our values and beliefs.
See, this is what makes us redpilled. A bluepill christfag or atheist would just be incredulous that someone can have a different view, and would just invent reasons for why the other thinks like that without dealing with what they actually think.
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oh shit that not submissive part has almost swayed me. Still too hard for me to throw logic out the window for faith though. How do you do that?
>But to me it's more like we're spoiled for choice.
If you think that being able to use two contradictory arguments is the equivalent of being spoiled for choice, then that speaks volumes about how dishonest you are.
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>gay
>children
Kill yourself before you ruin the life of an innocent child
You do realize that you could make a list longer than that of countries white people have been kicked out in the last 2 centuries?
What is your stance on Mormons?
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>Comparing all white people to a small religion
Go fuck yourself, faggot.
Christianity is a fast food religion for people too stupid to understand real Philosphy
Magic underwear heretics. Same as Jehovah's Witness, Gnostics, and other cults.
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Philosophy is fast food for people too stupid to understand Christianity. See, I can just say things too.
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Nice people wrong belief.
>Jews are just a religion
I thought Christianity was redpilled?
cлaв пeдик
How the mighty have fallen.
Cred Forums is a Catholic board and Protesturds will NOT be tolerated.
Either way it's a small group when you compare them to ALL white people.
but I'm right and you're not.
Checkmate, christjew cuck.
Hail Lucifer
you what, mehmet?
The pope is a sjw faggot though.
Neither of those two arguments you posted are ideological. One is simply an argument from origin (Jewishness), the other circumstantial (led to the holocaust). Since these are apparently the only arguments you think atheists have against Christianity, I can only assume atheism seems very shallow to you.
Anderson is great.
Reminder that Jesus would've taken in every refugee and illegal immigrant
Hold on a sec
>*chomps doritos*
So you're telling me
>*licks fingers*
That Jesus Christ
>*chugs mountain dew
Was an aryan and shit?
>*burps*
No, you are an idiot.
>Still too hard for me to throw logic out the window for faith though. How do you do that?
There's no single way back to faith that'll work for everyone, and the best I can do therefore is to share some personal experience (I used to be a full-blown atheist).
Start by working out every single hang-up you have about Christianity and finding a counter-argument which resolves it for you. This is the hardest step, and may require learning about things such as esoteric writing and reading reverently. At this stage you're not looking for a definitive proof of God's existence, but rather finding reasoning that allows you to accept the Bible as God's Word: i.e. bringing yourself back to a state of pure agnosticism.
Then find a church you enjoy going to: i.e. one with a based preacher and a good community. If you're American that likely means some sort of KJV-only Baptist church, but I'll leave that jurisdiction to you.
Finally you'll be ready to make use of Pascal's Wager: only once everything else is in place will that work.
>Magic underwear heretics.
Catholics wore "magical necklaces" ie Scapulars until they were persecuted for doing so and it became less popular
>the Blessed Virgin Mary appeared to St. Simon Stock at Cambridge, England in 1251 in answer to his appeal for help for his oppressed order and recommended the Brown Scapular of the Our Lady of Mount Carmel to him and promised salvation for the faithful who wore it piously. [27][28][29]
And many christians wear other symbols of faith.
Mormons seem pretty well adjusted and non abusive for a cult and far less vulnerable to modernism.
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What does pol think of people who have an active life within the church and follow the morals of Christianity but have no belief in the afterlife or God?
>Since these are apparently the only arguments you think atheists have against Christianity
I know they aren't. You, however, deliberately responded to my post without mentioning any arguments.
How about just colonizers then?
Mormons are crazed heretics. Period. Mormons as a bloc voted for Cruz instead of Trump. Do proper research.
The only way you have to disagree is by association with reddit?
And irreligiosity is the condition of humorless scum too unaesthetic and cultureless to appreciate religion
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>Jesus would've taken in
Jesus likely would've gone to those war-torn countries himself without any fear of the surrounding war.
>Mormons are crazed heretics.
Im just pointing out that the grouds you originally rejected them on dont really hold unless you apply them selectively.
>Mormons as a bloc voted for Cruz instead of Trump. Do proper research.
And Catholics in my Country have traditionally been the bulwark of the Labour Party and democratic socialism in Australia.
Because they've been discussed a billion times already, and I don't want to argue with an aussie. Suffice to say I reacted to your shitty strawman of suggesting atheists have two contradictory arguments, and therefore can't make up their minds.
>(___) is one person
That's the extent of my posting, friendos. Jesus is Lord. Resist heresy and the wolves in sheep's clothing. Repent and be saved.
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Thanks for taking the time to write all that. Believing in nothing is boring so yeah I've been trying to find a way to convince my critical scientific personality which I suppose you can relate to previously being athiest. I'll look into it.
If you find believing in nothing to be boring, I'd suggest you're missing something else than belief/unbelief. For example, the sense of community often associating with church-going. Not to suggest you should take the atheist community route, if this is the case. I'd just suggest that either, if you feel unfulfilled in unbelief, you still believe on some level (or want to), or you're missing some part of the experience, which may not necessarily mean you should delve into religion as such.
But, do what feels right and don't listen to people on the internet.
>ctrl+f "orthodox"
>no results
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I don't care. Its a "grand philosophy" as good as any other. But its what you DO and the actual rules/habits/rituals that you live by that make an impact irl.
Fucking kek
I actually laughed out loud
>do what feels right and don't listen to people
I know you didn't mean it this way, but that attitude is what got Europe into its current mess in the first place...
i kek'd because the word shite feels good to pronounce it like the pirates in black flag.
he meant that you define your belief by what you are not which is believing that there is no God,sorry for bad wording can't explain it better in english.
Hmm, quite true. But in a conversation about religious belief? I not sure there's a middle ground between "do what feels right" and "just think what I say"
>yeeees goyim, fight among yourselves
>Thanks for taking the time to write all that.
No worries!
By the way, if you have a hang-up about Genesis specifically, then I'd recommend checking out 'Persecution and The Art of Writing' by Leo Strauss (a fantastic introduction to the way text can be used to convey multiple meanings simultaneously), and then his article 'On Genesis' (which explains why everything in Genesis 1 is created in a specific order from a different perspective).
Deus Vult!
>not sure there's a middle ground between "do what feels right" and "just think what I say"
When it comes to things such as questions about the immorality of [action], I usually try to argue by explaining the negative consequences which will arise if [action] is performed or made legal. I think that's about as close to a middle ground as can be reached. I can't make you believe in God. I could theoretically force you to say you do, but that's not saving anyone, and it's pretty distasteful imho.
Cred Forums is a Christian board.
As i said, if you what atheism you can go to reddit. Cred Forums is a Christian board and always will be.
>being the religion which led to the Holocaust.
no it didn't
>christians
>t. Cred Forums 2016
>muh atheism
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Yeah I know. It's just funny seeing two groups of atheists attacking Christianity for polar opposite things.
The Bible does call out the Talmudist though, which shows that the doctrine itself can be used to red-pill a Christian in regard to that.
>christians are one person
I'd prefer not to believe in the God of insecure peasants.
ONE COUNTRY
ONE GOD
ONE FLAG
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>protestantism
>not cucked by israel
Catholics, orthodox dodge this little jewish trap entirely
KJV Bible-based protestantism is anti-Israel. The Pope is pro-Israel. Just saying.
>strawman
A lot if not most of us are born again Christians, i.e. we were atheists before. It is ATHEISTS who demonstrate day after day, thread after thread, that THEY are the ones who don't understand US.
Do you ever see people in these threads claiming they have achieved a higher state of enlightened intelligence and converted to atheism from Christianity due to the infallible logic of fedora arguments?
We're winning the debate on Cred Forums and especially on Cred Forums. Christianity is objectively and demonstrably a superior ideology to achieve our political aims, saving Western civilisation and the white race.
Atheism is a relativistic belief system that puts Christianity (THE core white nationalist demographic) on the same level as islam and judaism or any other religion.
We are the ones with a personal, irrational interest in keeping the West homogeneous. You merely adhere to abstract ideology. What is built by reason can be destroyed by reason (cultural marxism). But nothing can penetrate the armour of Faith.
Enough of this faggotry. Just go back to r/atheism or whatever.
If you don't support Israel, where are you going to put all the jews? Even Hitler supported Israel.
Also, if it weren't for Christians, we would never have achieved Brexit. Conversely, if the UK were an atheist country, we would still be in the EU today.
You have Christianity and Christians to thank for living in a free and independent country. Remember that.
Everyone beliefs that because that is the thing what the jews tel them
>just saying
yes, you are literally "just saying"
The moon is made of cheese. Just saying.
If monotheistic religions are so great why do they all feel the need to copy Greek philosophers?
Heathens:1337 Monotheists:0
What was first the chicken or the egg?
Go eat shit, goatfucker. Still butthurt that you will never be European? WE WUZ GREEK PHILOSOPHER N SHIET
Underrated post, brother.
>Projecting this hard
I never mentioned any of those, I just asked a simple question and like a proper Christcuck you failed to respond intelligently.
What does that have to do with my question?
I have never met an attractive atheist. Don't get me wrong, I am a Christian but I am the type of Christian who believes God is love and that we should love our fellow man. This isn't a theist vs. atheist discussion.
But I honestly have never met an attractive atheist, even before learning they were atheist, I would think to myself, “That woman is ugly… jeez…”
Do you think that people are atheists because they hate God for making them ugly?
Still no answer I see...
>Do you think that people are atheists because they hate God for making them ugly?
In any question that's locked in a permanent stalemate, people are more likely to pick a side based on an emotional reaction than an intellectual one.
Your question is based on a false premise. You may as well be saying:
>If you claim the grass is green then why is it in fact blue?
well i am agnostic and think you guys are stupid. however, you are much more civilized than the goat fuckers and much more moral than the dirty jew. so i say you cunts are alright
>well i am agnostic and think you guys are stupid.
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>however, you are much more civilized than the goat fuckers and much more moral than the dirty jew. so i say you cunts are alright
Cheers cunt.
>usury is bad, don't engage in it
>only Jews should
Where in the Bible does it even say that btw?
>catholics
>kike pope
Nowhere. The Christians still made it a policy though,
>Nowhere.
We don't care about that then. If a policy is only possible to put into place due to people NOT reading their Bibles, then it's hardly something which Christianity leads to.
In fact, Martin Luther made a big deal out of how the Jews taking usury from hard working people was because of lies and blasphemous ideas.
This board belongs to Kek, you pleb.
>forcing your beliefs on other people
What are you a fucking SJW
That's pretty much what Christfags are m8.
>forcing your beliefs on other people
>What are you a fucking SJW
>This board belongs to Kek, you pleb.
The irony.
I am going to make a thread about how the new testament is in fact roman psyops, and give proofs.
Christianity ia what absofuckinglutely destroyed european beliefs and culture 500-1700 ad.
Sure, us europeans still managed to do great things despite this fucking ball and chain attached to us called christianity. It is still a religion with jewish roots. We don't want this anymore. We want the old alternatives back.
WE WANT TO BE FREE OF ALL MIDDLE EASTERN INFLUENCE. WE WANT TO BE FREE OF THE JEWISH BASED ABRAHAMIC RELIGIONS. WE WANT OUR CULTURE AND BACK.
I will make those threads every fucking day until you faggots realise it had never been anything more than just a way the romans supressed the ongoing jewish revolts 100-200ad.
Wew, nice
Don't you Christians have things better to do than shitposting on Cred Forums?
Like welcoming immigrant?
Actually finishing (and more probably starting) reading the bible and the gospel?
Or maybe forgiving (and pressuring other to do the same) a wrong doer, preventing Justice to be made, because only 'Divine Justice' matters?
What about donating your wealth to the poor?
>Hebrew religion that worships the son of a cuck
>only good when people completely ignore its principals
>constant contradictions and fallacies in its literature
>has devolved into apathy about the world because all that matters is the afterlife
Christianity seems like it's dying in the same way it started. The all powerful son of God, being shamed and abused before being executed. I hope you Christians are aware of this and simply have the faith that Christianity will be resurrected after its execution.
>WE WANT TO BE FREE OF ALL MIDDLE EASTERN INFLUENCE
It's that mentality which leads to being subverted and destroyed by either communism or Islam.
You may as well be saying "we want to be free of food". Your people have to believe in something, and if it's not God, then it'll be equality, or Islam.
just let them roleplay in peace you party pooper
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>only good when people completely ignore its principals
The western world has been going to shit precisely because people have begun completely ignoring its principles. Did you mean (((principals))) as in the pope? If so, cute wordplay.
>has devolved into apathy about the world
>on the winning side in every world war
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>have the faith that Christianity will be resurrected after its execution.
The completely suicidal and perverted nature of the secular world will bring many ex-Christians back into the fold.
>Christians are SJW
>implying they have anything in common
see
How so?
You all admit to Christian theology being Neo-Platonic courtesy of Saint Aquintas(Islam because of Mughal philosophers) and proud of it.
So why do you need heathens to make your philosophy?
You are jidf probably
>hurr durr you can only choose between these two backwards ideologies and all other choices are held in contempt except for hurr djrr christianity.
You are just as big ideologically driven cunts that would love nothing more than utterly destroy the people who do not share your ideology.
Yes because JIDF is well known for promoting Christianity... Do you have any idea how much they hate Christianity? While we learn about European history, they learn about 2,000 years of persecution by white Christians that ended in a holocaust.
Christianity is for the weak minded masses because we're all afraid to die. We all want someone to tell us it's going to be ok. The reality is nothing happens when you die, it's just over, you're done forever.
*tips fedora at all m'ladies and treats them with respect
Sorry christfags you're wasting your time.
>hurr durr you can only choose between
You can choose whatever you want, but the reality is that even if you succeed in exposing the jew, that's not going to affect the Islam/equality problem.
>You all admit to Christian theology being Neo-Platonic courtesy of Saint Aquintas(Islam because of Mughal philosophers) and proud of it.
I've never made a claim like that. Christian theology (or the vast majority of it) can be re-derived from the Bible, independent of that.
logic and faith cannot contradict
the logical underpinnings of Christian morality may have been developed by Greek philosophers pre-Christ - how does this weaken the Christian position at all? It doesn't.
Christ is the fulfillment of God's love for mankind - the fact that the reasoning by which this fact can be realized was developed pre-Christian era proves nothing against Christianity...
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>they are both ideologies, therefore they are the same ideology
o stahp u r makin me laff
>they are both ideologies, therefore they are the same ideology
Not even what I said.
I din't say you share the ideology. I said that you were just as big cunts, both of you.
Fuck anyone who thinks he can tell others how to run their lives because of self perceived moral superiority.
Go back to r/atheism, faggot
>anyone with an ideology is blue-pilled
gotcha
>anyone who thinks he can tell others how to run their lives because of moral superiority
see pic related
I think it's pretty clear that Christian doctrine doesn't call for genocides and crusades. Yet those are the greatest things to come from Christian empires. In any case, no Christian today will say they support these things.
There hasn't been a world war in 70 years. Christian attitudes have changed since then. Besides, what side were Christians on in WWII? I'd argue both sides.
It's not natural for secularism to be equality focused, yet that's what we see today. Modern atheists who believe in equality and other moral imperatives are brainwashed fools. You can live a free life with values similar to Christianity without moral imperative because you can use egotism and claim that living a Christian type lifestyle will result in the best happiness for you. Such propositions can not be made by leftist because it is obviously false that self-sacrifice for other people (oppressed minorities) will be to your own benefit.
Religion is like your asshole.
Nobody fucking wants to see it or cares about it's contents.
Christianity isn't self-perceived, it's objective morality, the object being God and the Bible.
What are you doing on a Christian board though, race traitor?
Nice meme, edgelord!
Your fortune:
>And this is the judgment: because the light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than the light: for their works were evil.
>You can live a free life with values similar to Christianity
Why should you? Everything's relative in your world. Just get a sex change and let niggers fuck you. What's the difference?
The only God I worship is the god of kek
Nigger, I am not part of your fucking race, so how can I be a traitor?
You christcucks destroyed the traditions of my people, and it is a small miracle we know anything about our pagan beliefs these days.
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>pol
>christian board.
Top kek.
>no Christian today will say they support these things.
I'll happily do so. The Crusades were at least justified, if not carried out ideally.
>Christian attitudes have changed since then.
Yea, away from the Bible and towards heresy.
>It's not natural for secularism to be equality focused, yet that's what we see today.
I'm suggesting that it is natural: you need to have both a historical narrative and a moral doctrine of some kind or another, and equality is the most well known subversion tool used to steal the place of faith in God.
>it is obviously false that self-sacrifice for other people (oppressed minorities) will be to your own benefit.
It can be and it's not self-sacrifice (for the short term) if you live in a rich gated community.
European culture is Christian culture.
>I will make those threads every fucking day
You and the rest of the anti-white shills already do and everyone thinks you're a faggot.
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Pol is an ((((((((Orthodox))))))))) board you faggot
Why would I become a tranny when trannies constantly kill themselves?
What isn't relative in a godless world is attitudes and emotion, particularly pain and suffering. The point of living a modest Christian lifestyle as an atheist is that Christian lifestyles (in theory) reduce pain and suffering if you live that way. There is no moral imperative to live that way but it is a choice you can make to reduce complications and discomfort.
Reminder that atheism is literally stupid.
>"An atheist has to know a lot more than I know. An atheist is someone who knows there is no god. By some definitions atheism is very stupid." - Carl Sagan
*kuk
Come back to Christ, it triggers the fuck out of everyone
Who cares about killing yourself. Just kill yourself. There's nothing objectively wrong with killing yourself.
>Believing that there was nothing and then a magic fairy created everything
Which sounds crazier christcuck
>pain and suffering aren't relative
Nice graph.
That just shows that a significant portion of pol posters believe in fairy tales, not that this board is exclusive to those loonies, you safe space faggot.
Go home, faggot
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Kek
Triggered status: niggered
Not an argument.
i swear, british people are the niggers of europe
is there some period of european history i'm not yet aware of where they shipped all the retards, autists and faggots to that island?
>wants only people who share his ideology to post on this site.
>accuses others of being triggered.
I am amused by your idiocy desu lads.
>wants only people who share his ideology to post on this site.
>This board belongs to Kek, you pleb.
Inb4 cucktheists claim Jesus is a Jew plant.
Jesus gave chosen status to the Goyim, forever cucking the Jews, which is why they hate him.
If you're committing suicide you are probably in pain, in the case of transexuals, emotional pain. Currently I am in no emotional pain great enough to warrant the decision of killing myself so why would I go through the trouble of becoming a tranny only to have a high likelihood of being in emotional distress.
They aren't by my definition. If you dislike a sensation or mental state it is a type of pain or suffering. The point is to act in your own self-interest. I try, as any human should, to avoid being in situation where I am in pain. This means not subjecting myself to risky behaviors or behaviors that might cause distress.
They promote anything which divides us and depraves us from our ancestry, so yes, I am sure they shill for christianity too, even if they want to kill and control christians.
>Cred Forums is a Christian board
Just because you say it doesn't make it true.
>Jesus gave chosen status to the Goyim, forever cucking the Jews, which is why they hate him.
You made your point very efficiently!
You see? You have no arguments against that. We do. You would never be able to institute laws against faggotry and transsexualism in an atheist society, because it's not an argument you can make using logic or reason. You can give them a million reasons why they are wrong and they will just turn around and say, fuck you this is my nature, it's all just a social construct anyway, and go on faggot pride marches until the law is changed. What argument can you make against them? You have manifestly failed to stop them. You are the ones who enable them. Christians have done and can make laws against it based on objective morality. American law used to be based on the Bible. We don't need to reason with them. We just fucking do it because Deus vult.
If you are not a Christian, you are not white. So just go kill yourself i guess, nigger.
>another fedora who thinks he can BTFO 2000 years of Christian hegemony with memes
Here's to (You).
You are the ones in here attacking your own fucking people. White Christians. You are part of the problem.
Also the cia and the other alphabet negroes want an easily controlled population, and submission under christianity gives them that.
>throw logic out the window for faith
This is a common misconception. Science and religion are not in competition. Doctor E. Michael Jones is a great scholar on the Logos of Christianity. You should check him out, if you are interested in reason of the Christian religion, and why it is good for a moral society.
Never said that nigger
Is it a common tactic of yours to put words in your opponents mouth? Is that what absolute solitude does to a finn?
>biology
>a social construct
pick one
I honestly don't even know whose side you're on because your rambling is that incoherent
There are plenty of arguments that can be made against homosexuality and transsexualism. Just so you know.
Don't cry. There is always a place for (((Atheists))) to go.
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>Just because you say it doesn't make it true.
mirror.
look.
go.
>They promote anything which divides us and depraves us from our ancestry, so yes, I am sure they shill for christianity too
That makes no sense when Christianity is the religion best able to call out the Talmudist, and given that a Christian Europe has been historically the most successful.
>They aren't by my definition
Pain is a product of one's nervous system and people can have differently functioning nervous systems. Suffering is a product of one's mental state and people can be mentally broken or fortified. Therefore both have significant subjective components. That is all.
Jokes nigger.
>thinking that calling others hats is an argument.
>mfw christianity is pretty much dead in my homeland, as people are at best, habitual christians, and the church is so fucking irrelevant that they try to suck up to "refugees" and faggots to get at least someone to attend their ceremonies.
>Cred Forums still pretends to be Christian because they think it'll really annoy le Reddit atheist boogeyman and le Mudslime shitskins and Jews
No-one cares about your fucking LARPing. Get a life.
and by arguments, yes I mean LOGICAL arguments based on FACT and REASON
See The decline of Christianity coincides with the decline of the West. How can you possibly argue that Christianity is part of their plan? You are literally denying reality.
They are destroying Christianity because we CAN'T be controlled or reasoned with. They need atheism. They want you to be atheist so they can fill your head with whatever they want. So they can defeat you with sophistry. They've reduced you to soulless, relativistic cattle.
Not weaken it but what does it mean when two very different religions all gravitate towards a school of thought?
What does that tell you about that school of thought?
t.Solomon Shoahstein
>died for anti-Semitism
>haha he was a Jew tho checkm8
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no, it's not an argument - it's calling a spade a spade
see because you are completely incapable of engaging in any level of discourse above that of farts and funny faces
>Deus Vult.
*Tips armet*
You guys are the problem because of your failure to entertain deas besides the ones you grew up with and were forced down your throats. I used to be both protestant and a jehovas witness.
I should really stop being lazy and add a filter to these threads.
I mean, it`s just a shitfest of both sides insulting each other with no evidence to prove or disprove ones claims.
So yeah, keep your daily christian circle-jerk.
Also -
>implying that echo-chambers aren`t childish.
How about you try refuting MY point. Not the other guys'.
I am of no obligation to end anyone else's pain, only my own. Granted, the suffering of my friends and family, and perhaps members of my race might produce a small amount of personal pain for me and then I would be incentivized to help.
Where did I say that I was an atheist, you dumb christcuck?
And you seem to be far more aware of various contents of Reddit than I am.
I miss AMDG. At least he was amusing.
It just means that whites need to organize under something more beneficial. It is time for something completely new, or a revitalization and resurgence of the classical religions.
>towards a school of thought
Tells me that you're dishonest.
>religions
>a school of thought
What angle are you even trying to go for here? They both hate sodomy? With that same 'logic', does being a vegetarian make someone Hitler? Of course not.
>keep laughing
Pure, greedy, and manipulative please :)
>Anyone who disagrees with me is a Jew
There is no way this board has a collective IQ of over 60. No chance.
The majority of Christians worldwide are either South American Hispanics or Sub-Saharan Africans. Most Christians are not white.
>your failure to entertain deas besides the ones you grew up
>implying they haven't
You're projecting your own failure to entertain the idea that someone could be an atheist and later on become a Christian again.
>RELIGION IS THE OPIATE OF THE MASSES!
>therefore don't care about anything and instead adopt a purely materialistic worldview , dude, come on, who cares dude lol
Oh wait, I actually wanted to include a somewhat insulting picture that nobody will give a single fuck about because non-autistic people don`t get offended by anyone elses beliefs.
But hey, do what you will.
The only reason that those people are Christian is that white people converted them.
We weren't all raised Jesse's. It's okay to still be frustrated that you had to go to the big conventions and suffer through Watchtower, but you don't have to be so bitter at mommy and daddy.
Kikes invented Atheism, retard
I doubt they would go back to christianity specifically because there are many other better alternatives, and once you understand the nature of Yahweh and his bloodlust and lack of control you will never go back.
Cred Forums is literally full of christian larpers or retards who struggle to believe in this nonsensical shit.
Be true to yourself
>inb4 le fedora meme
>once you understand the nature of Yahweh and his bloodlust and lack of control you will never go back.
You really quite literally are projecting your own failure to entertain the idea that someone could be an atheist and later on become a Christian again.
Thanks for proving my point, I guess?
>literally a christian cross on your flag
>can't understand that christianity has contributed vastly to the success of his country and western civilization at large
Here's just a taste:
>Catholics invented the first modern writing system known as the Carolingian minuscule! It was the introduction of lower case letters, spaces between words, punctuation, etc! : "Fredegise, Alcuin's successor as abbot at Saint Martin's, played a definitive part in the development and introduction of Carolingian minuscule. Now Western Europe had a script that could be read and written with relative ease. The introduction of lower case letters, spaces between words, and other measures intended to increase readability quickened both reading and writing. ... Carolingian minuscule - developed by the monks of the Catholic Church - was crucial to building the literacy of Western Civilization."
i am offended by that boy's teeth
close your mouth, son
And? The average Christian is still non-white.
If you people would wake the fuck up that would be their biggest mistake ever. How about you help the few sensible atheist by instead of deriding atheism, focusing the misguided atheists you fight for their own self-interest which will mostly coincide with your self-interest.
Who cares?Just remeber Jews invented Atheism.
BULLSHIT. We already have Christianity. It's jewish atheists who have destroyed it, not reason, especially Karl Marx and cultural marxism. If reason were enough to destroy Christianity, then Cred Forums wouldn't be a majority Christian board.
You've been brainwashed against your own fucking people. You're ATTACKING your own fucking people. Do you see muslims doing that? Or jews? YOU are part of the problem. You are subverting the least degenerate, highest birth rate white demographic. Why???
The European empires were Christian movements. Nazism was a Christian movement. Trump is a Christian movement. So why the fuck do we need something new? Why do you think Trump chose Pence as his running mate? He could've chosen a woman to win easy women's votes and fend off accusations of misogyny. He could've chosen a black to win easy black votes and fend off accusations of racism. But he chose a white Christian male. Why? Because the Christian right is THE most important demographic behind Trump. It's a Christian movement. Trump himself is Christian.
SO STOP ATTACKING US.
They invented Christianity too.
You have yet to weigh the alternatives or give them a try.
You also haven't bothered researching the origins of judaism, how yahweh was only one of many gods the semites worshipped, along with moloch.
Jews are great at making double-edged swords.
>literally a christian cross on your flag
Flag does not define it's people.
And sorry, I am not really keen on appreciating the ideology in whose name my people were butchered, our ways of lives destroyed, and to which we were subjugated for hundreds of years.
There is nothing Finnish about Christianity. It is a foreign faith, that was forced upon my people, which is why it is falling away fast here. Finns were never really that christian, we were pagans who were forced into following the church under the pain of death, and now that it is no longer forced, we have become extremely secular.
Christianity has no roots here, it was forced upon us, and thus, it is fading away extremely fast. Though our pagan belief systems were largely destroyed, the traditions however, endure. Midsummer pyres still blaze in our nightles nights as they did a thousand years ago, the soft songs of our ancestors are still sung, and our people still live on as our own entity, despite the repeated attempts of outsiders to destroy and subjugate us, via either sword, or foreign faiths of the south.
except, no, they didn't.
>You have yet to weigh the alternatives or give them a try.
We're Christians you fucking moron. There is no alternative. This is our reality.
...
>still no argument
>just a bunch of incoherent pagan babble
Yes, and it's fading fast primarily due to ignoramuses like you.
>You have yet to weigh the alternatives or give them a try.
You haven't read the thread if you're still deluding yourself with the idea that I haven't.
You seriously ARE projecting your own failure to entertain the idea that someone could be an atheist and later on become a Christian again.
Thanks for continuing to prove my point, I guess?
It's fading fast because marxists took it out of our schools and now you don't understand the first thing about it or how it's an intrinsic part of your and all Europeans' history.
>dibs bedora
Recommend me some good books about the Good Book, anons.
>You also haven't bothered researching the origins of judaism, how yahweh was only one of many gods the semites worshipped, along with moloch.
Platonism, if both Islam and Christianity love Plato so much then why not listen to Plato instead?
I love my people.
I just want them to be free completely from jewish influence, and to embrace our ancestors instead of always being told we can't. The jews and everyone else can, but we are not allowed. Not allowed since almost fucking 2 fucking thousand years ago.
You had no argument yourself.
Christianity did not benefit us.
It was a tool of the Swedes to enslave and subjugate my people.
Why in the world, would I give two shits about the faith that was used to chain my kin for generations?
Christianity is fading, because there is nothing Finnish in it.
It is the faith that was born in warm southern lands, and has nothing in it that speaks to us.
You don't know shit.
Christianity is still taught in our schools, we learn about it as kids, and even go to churches etc.
Only later in school are other religions brought into the education as well, in a very factual basis.
Finns simply don't care about religion that much in general. It is a personal matter by large, and as Christianity itself is foreign to Finland, there is very little in it that draws people to it. The only thing that keeps our church going is the fact that they get tax money due to their close relation with the government, which is a relic of bygone days, of the times when Christianity was still relevant here.
Here, have the actual thing, frenchie.
>why not listen to Plato instead?
Colossians 2.
1 For I would that ye knew what great conflict I have for you, and for them at Laodicea, and for as many as have not seen my face in the flesh;
2 That their hearts might be comforted, being knit together in love, and unto all riches of the full assurance of understanding, to the acknowledgement of the mystery of God, and of the Father, and of Christ;
3 In whom are hid all the treasures of wisdom and knowledge.
4 And this I say, lest any man should beguile you with enticing words.
5 For though I be absent in the flesh, yet am I with you in the spirit, joying and beholding your order, and the stedfastness of your faith in Christ.
6 As ye have therefore received Christ Jesus the Lord, so walk ye in him:
7 Rooted and built up in him, and stablished in the faith, as ye have been taught, abounding therein with thanksgiving.
8 Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ.
Philosophy is mere vanity, outside of political philosophy, which has little going for it save for a sense of pragmatism.
Islam is diametrically opposed to Christianity, and therefore Christianity to Islam
Everyone loves Plato, because he was based in a lot of ways.
But still not nearly as based as, say, the Church Fathers, seeing as they devised a robust and proven philosophy for how to live our daily lives - something that Plato failed to do.
www.tracts.ukgo.com/didache.pdf
Fucking this, even if you are a worthless atheist you should be capable of understanding that Christianity is a major part of Western civilization, art, and our culture. Sacrificing teachings about the Bible for supposed "seperation of church and state" is only doing us a disservice, since children will grow up without an understanding of our Chrisitan roots, and the philosophical impact Christianity had on our beliefs.
Right now, I'm reading Soren Kierkegaard's book "works of love" about the nature of God's love. Its interesting, but I heard his other book "Fear and Trembling" is better, (I also have that, but have yet to read it, since I want to finish some other books first)
>listening to clergy
>ever
>ishygddt
t. panentheist christian
>It was a tool of the Swedes to enslave and subjugate my people.
> the faith that was used to chain my kin for generations
Christianity is not jewish. There is no such thing as a Christian jew. Jews are jews. WE are Christianity. You have been brainwashed and set upon us by the jews and marxists. You are attacking and subverting your own people, again, the most nationalistic, least degenerate, highest birth rate white demographic of your own people. You are an anti-white enemy. When you hear white nationalists talking about the need to deal with the traitor within first, they are talking about you.
>Why in the world, would I give two shits about the faith that was used to chain my kin for generations?
>Christianity is fading, because there is nothing Finnish in it.
>It is the faith that was born in warm southern lands, and has nothing in it that speaks to us.
Well it doesn't exactly fit with the Kalevala but it's really a great thing for your cold northern country despite being from the south.
And there are things in it and its history that mirror elements of finnish history.
>that pic
no need to use a atrocious heretic to make your point
Here's one from a based saint circa ~400 AD
Shameful ignorance of Stalin's religious upbringing. Atheism was a tool to prevent the church from coronating another czar.
>atrocious heretic
spotted the authoritarian idol... sorry "holy relic" worshipping romanist
Has your nation become better or worse off as Christianity has declined and secularism has increased?
>the times when Christianity was still relevant here
According to a 2016 census, 75% of Finns described themselves as Christian.
Hey man they have bonfires some nights, don't freak!
and a tool to keep the masses from organizing in any environment that wasn't state controlled, and to keep the masses from shaking off their constant propaganda brainwashing,
and because he was a paranoidfucking lunatic who killed everyone he didn'T like.
See
>no true scotsman fallacy
protip: prior to 1517, everyone and his mother was a holy relic wor... sorry, VENERATING papist
Yahweh, you know, the God you worship, is the Jewish God. Think about it for a minute and realize what you are doing.
>Infiltrate the churches
1960s McCarthy propaganda:
uhuh.com
Former Athiest going into Seminary for the Society of Jesus in January. Deus Vult, user!
it's not the same God.
check'm
You're fucking retarded if you think that.
I don't expect murrican to know the history of Finland and the Finns.
> but it's really a great thing for your cold northern country despite being from the south.
How?
>And there are things in it and its history that mirror elements of finnish history.
Such ass?
Again, Finns did not convert to Christianity out of free choice. It was forced upon us, under the pain of death, by the Swedes, as Swedes killed anyone who refused baptism, and used the church as a tool to curb away our traditions for hundreds of years, even as recently as in the late 18th century.
Better by far.
The living conditions have improved exponentially during the last century, as is the level of education, wealth and prosperity of the people, as is their free time and freedom.
Also, most self reported Christians are the habitual Christians I mentioned earlier.
As in, they say they are christians, but in practice, they never go to the church, only Christian holidays they celebrate are Christmas and Easter (and our Easter is pretty much full of pagan stuff anyways), and that's pretty much it. The most they want from the Church is to get married in it, and get buried in it's graveyard, due to tradition.
The church is super fucking weak, and Christianity has no influence in social or political life in Finland. And as far as the younger generations are, they become increasingly majority non believers the younger you go. Because of the above, Christianity is dying here. It is a religion that has nothing to offer to Finns, who have become very secular people, though many of our pagan traditions still live on, trough well, tradition, because they ultimately, are something that actually have roots in our culture and in people.
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i dont expect you to know anything about anything
>Better by far.
Then why do you need these guys suddenly? en.wikipedia.org
>protip: prior to 1517, everyone and his mother was a holy relic wor... sorry, VENERATING papist
They have an excuse of not having known any better.
>How?
There's a lot of messages in there about standing together in te face of hardships, and about light after the dark.
I mean what the hell, christmas was put on the winter solstice, because the pagan religions before celebrated then to be able to survive the long dark winter without depression.
>such as?
People standing up against insurmountable odds, people oppressed and forced into hiding but then rising up again.
Yeah swedes were a bunch of bastards.
>I have never met an attractive atheist
God be with you in your holy mission user. Deus vult!
Nice strawman you got there
>and to keep the masses from shaking off their constant propaganda brainwashing,
The citizens of Russia were technically serfs and peasants before the Bolvshevik revolution. They had few legal rights because the church controlled everything with its constant propaganda brainwashing,
Satan is staring straight at me through those soulless eyes. KILL IT WITH FIRE.
>you can't "believe" in science and God at the same time
Wow sure showed me pal.
Fact of the matter is that Christianity was used by the Swedes as a tool of conquest and control against my people. The Swedes pretty much decreed that any Finn who was not a Christian was an outlaw that could be killed freely.
Expecting me to value the religion that was used to subjugate my ancestors is pretty silly.
Moronic larpers desu, though I do like them pissing off the leftists media fags. We have our own gods, and don't need some foreign Gods as our icons.
Also, our Church is cucked for the refugees. They spout the garbage about us having to accept those shitskins just as much as our media does.
I see your point on Christianity having some bits that might resonate with us, but again, ultimately, it was a tool of subjugation used against us.
Meh. Finland doesn't have the same demographic problems the Germanic countries do. I don't expect you to understand what we're talking about. I pray you never experience what we're going through.
Yeah.
But it would have weakened the soviet propaganda and brainwashing.
>ultimately, it was a tool of subjugation used against us.
Yes i completely understand your position
Gee that sounds alot like "The incoherence of philosophers" by Al-Ghazali, I guess that really makes sense.
>it was a tool of subjugation used against us
Subjugation by whom and to what?
honestly, leaf, this one does not look like a happy person; i like my women warm and inviting, not cold and soulless
>WE WUZ PAGANZ N SHIET
gotcha kid
That was the wrong pic to use.
Those people LOVE the UK.
The problem is not the people who love it and assimilate into the populace.
The problem are segregated communities where third generation migrants can grow up to be radicalized by first generation migrants who were let in despite never having any intention to assimilate into the culture.
>never met an attractive atheist
I've never met an intelligent theist.
You {{{win}}}!
>Subjugation by whom and to what?
He said it earlier.
Swedes.
To Sweden.
I've never met an intelligent atheist.
Czech m8
>this one does not look like a happy person;
>i like people dumb and ignorant in their bliss
Its ok we already knew this