1. Studies have shown that in most fields (although exceptions exist), job applications with a female name are less likely to get a response compared to identical job applications with a male name. Wouldn't it be weird if this would not contribute to a pay gap between the genders?
2. If gender pay gap is due to evolutionary psychology/biology how come it vary from 5% to 30% in OECD countries and 5% to 20% in Western countries?
3. If female employee is economically more risky to hire than a male due to parental leave, why wouldn't for-profit companies discriminate against women?
Here's a debate between a feminist and Sargon Of Akkad, and most of the top comments are Sargons subscribers telling the feminist won the debate. That's what happen when you realize your circlejerk is pathetic.
1. Women are risky to hire as they take more sick leave, work less hours, and risk getting pregnant and losing a years worth of work. 2. Gender pay gap is due to women majoring in gender studies and not STEM. 3. They do.
There is no wage gap, the truth is women are doing better than men and this was caused by deprioritising men for virtually all white collar jobs.
Noah Sanchez
OP, you made this exact same thread with the exact same arguments just a week or two ago. So I've got a question that I bet you'll refuse to answer. Why can't you come up with anything new after consistently getting BTFO?
Cameron Ward
1 = not true or based in reality
2 = gdp obviously
3 = women are less productive even before having children
4 = OP is a faggot and women are shit
Anthony Barnes
Irrelevant. COMSAD study performed by the Department of Labor showed decisively that over 96% of the pay gap can be explained, and is expressly non-discriminatory. It's mostly due to career choices and qualifications.
Any discrimination MUST fall into the remaining 4%, if it exists at all. You are talking about 4% of that 30 cent wage gap. That's less than two cents that women are paid differently for reasons that are not clear, but may or may not be sexism. Less than two cents.
The data is in. I don't care about videos, I don't care about Sargon of Cuckkad, I care about facts. My facts are ironclad. Go read the study, it's publicly available and all of the data points were published.
It was also commissioned by Barack Hussein Obama's government, you know, just in case you were worried that some of those filthy facts might've been researched by Republicans.
Sebastian Turner
>Studies have shown what studies?
Christopher Adams
1) Feel free to provide one of those studies. You're on the internet, and you just wrote "studies have shown" and then neglected to post a link. The majority of the studies that I've read on this topic are biased advocacy research.
2) What does variance in any country have to do with it? Every country has different laws and social norms. The fact remains, however, that in countries where women are better off economically, fewer women hold jobs in STEM/tech/other traditionally male industries. Thus it would appear that women, when given the choice, actually flock away from those fields, and the majority of women in third world countries holding those jobs are doing so for the higher pay.
3) It's illegal to discriminate against women. Also, it's simply factual that women are riskier than men. This is not really something you can "disprove." Women run the risk of having children and having to leave to take care of those children for a period of time. Men do not carry that same risk. This is biology, and it's not going to stop being true if you disagree with it.
Leo Jackson
As I said there are exceptions. See the links below to get the big picture.
"Whether Abramson’s pay did or didn’t have anything to do with her dismissal from the Times, one thing is certain: there is a gender wage gap. Among full-time workers, women earn 77% of what men earn. Even after accounting for the fact that women often work in different occupations and industries than men, as well as differences in work experience, union status, education and race, 41% of that gap is still unexplained. When social scientists control for every employment factor that could possibly explain the disparity, women still earn 91% of what men earn for doing the same job."
And this more the case in New Zealand than in Finland and explains it? How about parental leave system?
There are still people who don't accept the obvious fact that calling wage gap a myth is silly and that saying discrimination against women in labour market doesn't exist is against basic laws of economics.
Thomas Watson
Maddox sure is a fucking cuck but his video on the wage gap is legit
Tyler Roberts
Business owner and anti-feminist here
1. Women are an absolute nightmare to deal with in an office or out in a field of work. They are emotional, lack pragmatism and overall cause tension among the ranks with their subversive nature.
2. Strawman and not an arguement. Paygap doesnt exsist
3. We do discriminate.
Welcome to reality... not the net. This is how it works.
Ayden Cook
>Sargon Of Akkad This guy is literally having a meltdown on Twitter with some kid and spamming gay porn. He's a freak who should lose his audience.
Joshua Smith
I work in HR and after numerous disasters with hiring women I started to ignore woman applications. Thats sexist and I dont fucking care, truth is men are atleast twice or even three times als productive and we pay them the same.
Levi Ward
1. why do companies discriminate against women?
3. why don't companies discriminate against women?
Joseph Sanders
>3. If female employee is economically more risky to hire than a male due to parental leave, why wouldn't for-profit companies discriminate against women? If gender pay gap exists and companies can get away with paying women less, how can any man in the country get hired?
So the difference is 0% percent in reality, and OECD is run by some feminist conspiracy?
Connor Cook
>meltdown He just found something that got under the skin of alt-right-cucks
>spamming gay porn hot
>He's a freak who should lose his audience. Triggered wehraboo?
Ryan Brown
>OECD is run by some feminist conspiracy more or less
Benjamin Peterson
That's an earnings gap. Women and men don't get paid differently in the same job with the same experience etc. That's illegal under discrimination laws and they would have a case to sue their employer. Women *choose* to work less and are more likely to value employment privileges rather than higher pay than men. Men and women have very different priorities so parity should never be expected (or desired).
Hudson Bennett
1. Actually untrue. They would likely get more male applicants in all the fields they're refering to (I.T., Engineering, etc), and because of diversity policy basically any woman who applies will get the job.
2. gender pay gap when accounting for job types etc, in western countries is like 3%. But you date mention that to a feminist and they'll scream rape.
3. The last company I worked for men were entitled to the same parental leave benefits as women, I don't know what kind of third world shit hole you live in but that's the way it is here if you work for a proper corporate piece of shit shithole cuntfest that our corporations are here in this country.
Austin Sullivan
>median wages Women tend to do more often do low paying jobs such as teaching, nursing, and child care. Men tend to do higher paying jobs such as trades, industry, and white collar.
No conspiracy. Just the reality that is gender difference.
The answer to all of your questions is that normal people are deeply annoyed by whiney faggot like yourself. End it.
Kayden Rodriguez
Fuck it I know it's bait but I'll bite anyway. >1. Studies have shown that in most fields (although exceptions exist), job applications with a female name are less likely to get a response compared to identical job applications with a male name. I'll take your word for it even though you have no source. >Wouldn't it be weird if this would not contribute to a pay gap between the genders? No it wouldn't. That would contribute to an EMPLOYMENT gap, not a pay gap. >2. If gender pay gap is due to evolutionary psychology/biology how come it vary from 5% to 30% in OECD countries and 5% to 20% in Western countries? Different cultures exist and they give women different levels of prospects. Also it's not a pay gap, it's an earnings gap. >3. If female employee is economically more risky to hire than a male due to parental leave, why wouldn't for-profit companies discriminate against women? If I was running one, I know I would.
What was your point anyway?
>He just found something that got under the skin of alt-right-cucks What did he find?
Logan Powell
Whenever someone says 'studies have shown' but won't show you those studies you can be sure they're full of shit.
Levi Wood
> unknowing that climate change is (also) a natural occurance.
Matthew Moore
>What did he find?
Interracial gay porn of course!
Adam Cox
Better Question OP Why should I care? Women shouldn't be working.
Justin Hughes
What's with people from the U.K. and fetishising shitskins?
It's like being an outspoken straight white male isn't allowed or someth-ohh wait Tony Robinson...
Adrian Carter
People mostly ignore facts when making decisions. Buy my book.
Cooper Hernandez
Who fucking cares? People are paid the lowest wage an employer can weasel out of you.
More skills, more education, healthy, not a "protected class" = less risk.
You are an asset and you are paid what you are worth.
How many white men sue employers for discrimination or harassment? The answer is zero, because they are not a protected class by law, therefore an employer can not harass a white man. This is the risk of employing a woman, a minority, etc. Based off of the market, there people are more risky and that needs to be account for somehow.
Brody Clark
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Thomas James
1) women are inherently inferior at positions that require logic and shrewd judgement.
2) I don't even understand what point you're trying to make.
3) That wouldn't be a pay gap due to sexism though. That would be a pay gap due to someone being worse at their job.
In summary, everyone knows that there is a pay gap between all women and all men in all positions and this is because of a variety of reasons that aren't someone paying someone less simply because they have a vagina. In fact it is already illegal to pay someone at your company less for the same position because of their gender. It doesn't happen, and when it does there is already a law to prosecute.
Colton Edwards
The gender gap is more difficult to analyze because the reasons for the difference are harder to measure. Gender differences in schooling and cognitive skills as measured by the AFQT are quite small and explain little of the pay gap. Instead the gender gap is attributable to choices made by women concerning the amount of time and energy to devote to a career as reflected in years of work experience, utilization of part-time work, and workplace and job characteristics. There is no gender gap in wages among men and women with similar family roles. Comparing the wage gap between women and men ages 35-43 who have never married and never had a child, we find a small observed gap in favor of women.
Published Paper: "Gender-specific regressions are used to estimate what part of the earnings gap between men and women is due to differences in traits. The results indicate that occupational assignment is the primary determinant of the pay gap, a result that is consistent with a "crowding" explanation of that gap."
Published academic papers, not blogs and youtube videos.
Evan Cox
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Gavin Ramirez
Enjoy your ban for posting faggotry
Hudson Mitchell
If the gender pay gap is real then why don't the evil capitalists that only care about profit margins hire more women to cut costs? Is it because men are worth more money? Wouldn't the pay gap then be justified?
This is the only argument you need, as it doesn't presume existence or lack thereof.
Remember to sage ridiculous threads like these.
Juan Robinson
Why is this faggot pretending to be Orwell, Orwell would cringe at this.
Blake Young
Did you know Orwell was a socialist?
Jayden Lewis
I've been involved in situations where my boss was reluctant to hire a woman I'd recommended because she was young and married with a child.
Maternity leave and parents (traditionally the wife) having to go home early to take care of their child are the two real issues of gender inequality, but feminists choose to focus on affirmative action and sexual harassment instead.
Josiah Foster
Almost every european country has equality laws regarding wage. It is illegal to pay women and men a different wage for the same job. The wage gap is a myth
Evan Kelly
See >3.
Yes, but how labour market works changes how taking different career choices affect a person.
For example: >Now the parental leave is paid by the parents employer who takes the parental leave, in most cases women >Solution 1: Take parental leave expenses equally from mother and fathers employee regardless of how they choose to split the parental leave between each other >Solution 2: Make state pay for the parental leave expenses instead of the employer >Solution 3: Make parental leave more equally split. So if the parental leave is 1 year, give 4 months to the mother, 4 months to the father and let them choose which one of them uses the third 4 months.
Also make childcare and part-time work more attractable. If people would really be concerned about demographics situation in the rich countries and they would seek alliances between people from the alt-right to feminists in making parental leave and childcare system better so women wouldn't be economically punished as much for having children.
For example, in the west, it is no longer the situation that lowly educated have more kids than the highly educated, the so called "dysgenic ratio" has turned into more "eugenic".
This is largely due to smart family and gender equality policies, implemented and developed by mostly left leaning, feminist, liberal researchers and politicians.
To fight homophobia, misogyny and racism in the muslim community and to raise fertility, we need to make allies, not friends and have sincere attempt to find common ground.
It is not impossibe to get many political parties enact policies that increase fertility and make immigration work better.
Jaxson Scott
>to make allies, not friends >*to make allies, not enemies
Kayden Russell
>If female employee is economically more risky to hire than a male due to parental leave, why wouldn't for-profit companies discriminate against women?
You're implying men aren't equal to women, yet claiming they should make the same amount of money?
Bentley Harris
>1. Studies have shown that in most fields (although exceptions exist), job applications with a female name are less likely to get a response compared to identical job applications with a male name. Wouldn't it be weird if this would not contribute to a pay gap between the gender
ok cite them
>2. If gender pay gap is due to evolutionary psychology/biology how come it vary from 5% to 30% in OECD countries and 5% to 20% in Western countries?
that isnt the right question user because the pay gap does not exist
>3. If female employee is economically more risky to hire than a male due to parental leave, why wouldn't for-profit companies discriminate against women?
stay on topic scrub.
Dominic Jones
Did you know you are not Orwell? Faggot this is like how "Sargon" named himself after an antiquity ruler.
No, Orwell was not a socialist. If he were that would have nothing to do with you taking his identity on as a mantle.
Jordan Young
>economically punished for having children
Poor, state-dependent people should not have children. If you can not find a husband to father your children and support a family, do not have kids.
Michael Garcia
This. We should pay anyone who wants it $5,000 (at least) to be made infertile. There should be full compensation for day care, maternity leave, and other childcare assistance for white families with both parents still married and ling together and no payments for anyone else. Obviously we'd have to make that open to everyone in present conditions but there are probably some proxies for whiteness we could factor in and keep it race-neutral.
Jose Adams
No, I think parental leave system that hurts women economically for having children is unfair to women and demographically destructive.
I offer 3 solution proposals in this post, tell me what you think: >No, Orwell was not a socialist. If he were that would have nothing to do with you taking his identity on as a mantle.
Before pretending to have read Orwell, at least read how his wikipedia articles starts:
>"Eric Arthur Blair (25 June 1903 – 21 January 1950),[1] who used the pen name George Orwell, was an English novelist, essayist, journalist, and critic. His work is marked by lucid prose, awareness of social injustice, opposition to totalitarianism, and outspoken support of democratic socialism.[2][3]" >"and outspoken support of democratic socialism"
Parental leave hurts the career more the more high income job you are.
Nathaniel Kelly
I don't believe that parental leave is the sole reason for the pay gap. You are the only person making that claim. You have to prove that to me.
Dominic Miller
>Solution 3: Make parental leave more equally split. So if the parental leave is 1 year, give 4 months to the mother, 4 months to the father and let them choose which one of them uses the third 4 months.
I like this. The actual money part of parental leave is often less important than the loss of a trained and difficult to replace worker.
Joseph Harris
Animal Farm was just a book about animals goy, Orwell was a good socialist who hated guns and freedom.
Chase Kelly
I can debunk your ENTIRE argument in a SINGLE image!
Click here to find out more!
Christopher Jones
I like Orwell, I hate a faggot who pretends to be him. Also wiki is weak, you could have done better than that.
You're pretending to be a witiful English journalist who goes against the grain and isn't in it for the money just the truth where it leads which clearly is not true.
"Democratic socialism" is different from socialism. You should have cited something of substance rather than googling for wiki. Oh look, this quote shows that Orwell was in fact a socialist of the grain of a hated YouTuber pretending to be him!
You in fact aren't like Orwell in the slightest. You definitely do not have his silky prose, understanding of facts, or nuance he deployed so well. But you don't even believe I read him (LOL nice argument).
Caleb Hill
heh Pretty good, and saveed.
Levi Phillips
Who tf wants their kid in kindergarten taught by a man? In the same light I don't want a woman working on my pipes. the natural social order sure is great desu, good thing feminists don't want equality in the yucky jobs for men to compete with them in their ez clean jobs.
Or would you want a man working on your teeth? Yuck!
Tyler Reyes
*or for
Jackson Ramirez
>No, Orwell was not a socialist. If he were that would have nothing to do with you taking his identity on as a mantle. >"Democratic socialism" is different from socialism.
>You're pretending to be a witiful English journalist who goes against the grain and isn't in it for the money just the truth where it leads which clearly is not true.
These are not my videos, I'm finnish and the guy is british.
>Orwell was a good socialist who hated guns and freedom.
Women are inferior in myriad ways, so men will always call the shots. Sorry.
Why don't women just form all-female companies (or anything else) and compete? Answer: they literally can't.
Ayden Lopez
Fucking hell talk about missing the point.
Hudson Gonzalez
And who says it's the right of the government to tell businesses how much they should pay their employees? If a business wants to pay woman half the pay of men then that is the right of the business in a free market.
Luke Rivera
What's always glossed over in feminism is that feminism 100% of it amounts to whining to men. Who is doing the discriminating? Men. Why the fuck shouldn't we discriminate. It's in our collective interest to discriminate, just like its in women's interest to band together and whine and call it feminism.
But of course, cunts a genetically blind to their own narcissism and hypocrisy, and that's another reason males generally want to stay away from them.
Colton Davis
In other words 9% disparity . In Germany there was a study from the Cologne Institute of Economic that said the gap is less than 2%
In other words the exegeration from feminists that they make 25% less than man is debunked.
The aspect that can contribute to it is the fact that women arent aggressive as men, they will, despit having the same quality as a men set themselves lower and pay the same work for less pay .
And i have never eard about the claim that the pay gap is evolutionary to be honest
And last but not least that the question feminists need to answer. If omen work the same but are paid only 374 why wouldnt somebody hire a 100% women company and make big bucks?
Isaac Cooper
I think the problem here is you lack the ability to understand sarcasm.
I would joke about how you are German but I am afraid this would go above your head.
The real lesson here is this guy sonds like he should be listened to.
>REE REE MEEE!
Yet no one cares and with good reason. He sounds authoritarian as fuck and wants things his way. He has no right to force whatever crap he wants down my throat and he can keep his petty disputes on youtube a shitty platform, and that's the real meat of the story here.
That is what he fears most. Being ignored and people living their lives the way they see fit and that is the pillar of the Anti SJW movement and he needs to get over it. No one owes him anything and if women are willing to work for less then they get less. They should go to their bosses about it not the government.
Jaxon Rodriguez
>Retards like you actually believe in man made climate change.
How about the more threatening and long-term C02 collapse we are experiencing? You know, the building block for all fucking life on earth.
Kill yourself.
Asher Edwards
1) There's many reasons to suppose that females are hired less often. When the government mess with the free market such as demanding that women must get paid maternity leave when they have kids it makes women objectively less valuable as employees, which is why all successful businesses will hire a man instead of a women all else being equal. If women want equal hiring standards then they need to stop voting for government to force employers to give women free shit. Basic economics.
2) Gender pay gap is a myth, women of equal value are paid the same down to a very close margin of error. The reason women get less money on average is they work lower paid jobs on average, again basic economics.
3) Most of them do discriminate against women, there are some businesses which do not because they're run with feels rather than logic, and these businesses are always less competitive in the free market over time.
Anthony Clark
Meanwhile, women make up less than 10% of all workplace related deaths. Gee I wonder why that is? I wonder if it has something to do with the fact women work low risk jobs that don't involve manual labor? I wonder if it is a contributing factor to why women get paid slightly less on average?
I guess the world will never know.
By the way I can't wait for the day dykes get lynched. As it was, so shall it be. Progress is an illusion. The best part is how women will react to it.
You ever watch those TV shows about disasters? You ever notice how the females they interview are always talking about how their neighbors (read: the men in their neighborhood) came to help them? You ever notice how it's never women helping their neighbors? That's because women are pathetic weak minded creatures who lock up the moment they have to do anything for themselves.
Oliver Cox
I'm hearing lots of talk and not a lot of sandwich-making.
Andrew James
>2. If gender pay gap is due to evolutionary psychology/biology how come it vary from 5% to 30% in OECD countries and 5% to 20% in Western countries?
That depends on the structure of economy, size and structure of public sector and affirmative action policies.
Cooper Perry
>2. If gender pay gap is due to evolutionary psychology/biology how come it vary from 5% to 30% in OECD countries and 5% to 20% in Western countries? Different countries have different laws and initiatives to combat "gender discrimination". Affirmative action for women is more aggressive in Sweden than in Poland.
Aiden Flores
So new zealand has 3 times more affirmative action for women than Sweden, that has 3 times larger gap?
Owen Wilson
>There are still people who don't accept the obvious fact that calling wage gap a myth is silly and that saying discrimination against women in labour market doesn't exist is against basic laws of economics.
Yes the wage gap (77%) is a myth. It's a myth because while there's an absolute difference in mens and womens wages in the aggregate, it's all actually explained (down to a reasonable margin of error) by economic factors, that are well understood and have been well understood for decades.
The problem is the mis-representation of this number as if every women is paid 77% less than every man, it's fundamentally a lack of understand of how the economy works.
There is discrimination in the work place but it's not because of ideology of men hating women which is what feminists want you to think. It's because women are stupid cunts and vote for government to interfere with the market to give themselves benefits over men, such as maternity leave, and this causes biases in the market because businesses who hire smart people know that all else being equal its better to hire a man. They are the cause of the biases against them, if they went to government and said "take away maternity pay" and the government did that then those biases in the market would go away.
In economics you cannot have your cake an eat it too, you can't demand exclusive free stuff and then also demand you're paid the same. You cannot change the value of something through fiat.
Caleb Phillips
What's the point of this thread?
Of course I'd rather hire a man than a woman. So?
Liam Wood
The pay gap is a logical fallacy
>arguement: women are paid 20%+ less for doing the same job than a man >well if that's true wouldn't it make more economic sense to hire only women? And save 20% on your wage bill? >SJW: STOP TRIGGER RAPING ME SHITLORD
Jayden Richardson
See >3. If female employee is economically more risky to hire than a male due to parental leave, why wouldn't for-profit companies discriminate against women?
Easton Ross
Warren Farrell, Ph.D. analyzed the Bureau of Labor statistics and found: There's also a pay gap between MEN who work part-time and MEN who work full-time. That should shut them up
Cameron Hall
There are still people who don't accept the obvious fact that calling wage gap a myth is silly and that saying discrimination against women in labour market doesn't exist is against basic laws of economics.
And you also fail to acknowledge that if there's small biases because of things like maternity leave it's because on aggregate women are taking value from the business in other ways than their wages.
You claim it violates a basic law of economics to suit your argument to fight for better wages, but you ignore basic laws of economics that are the cause of this, which is that women shouldn't be using the violence/coersion of the state to make businesses exclusively give them benefits over men. They are (as always) the cause of their own problems.
It's no fucking surprise to anyone well educated that feminists are always hard left, they're all about running to daddy government for money and dem programs to boost women unfairly, and then they shit their knickers when the market responds predictably by devaluing them as resources.
Use your fucking brain you idiot.
Oliver Clark
>insists climate change is real and isn't just a weather phenomenon that people blame on a boogey man
Evan Nguyen
Respond to these OP.
Mason Hall
Men have more workplace accidents doesn't say anything about the wage gap
>Wage gap is a myth =/= Wage gap can be explained by many different factors
Whatever those factors are, they affect genders more three times more equally in New Zealand (wage gap 5%) than in Sweden (wage gap 15%), showing it's more to due to with social structures than biology.
See solutions here
Yes there are differences in choices genders make in labour market, which does have to do with evolutionary psychology and biology. But if that is the explanation for differences in the gap from 5% in NZ and 15% in Sweden, it would have to mean that NZ and Swedish women differ from each other biologically or evolutionary more than Estonian and Japanese women for example.
Asher Johnson
See solutions here: >Now the parental leave is paid by the parents employer who takes the parental leave, in most cases women >Solution 1: Take parental leave expenses equally from mother and fathers employee regardless of how they choose to split the parental leave between each other >Solution 2: Make state pay for the parental leave expenses instead of the employer >Solution 3: Make parental leave more equally split. So if the parental leave is 1 year, give 4 months to the mother, 4 months to the father and let them choose which one of them uses the third 4 months.
>Also make childcare and part-time work more attractable. If people would really be concerned about demographics situation in the rich countries and they would seek alliances between people from the alt-right to feminists in making parental leave and childcare system better so women wouldn't be economically punished as much for having children.
Gavin Robinson
>Men have more workplace accidents doesn't say anything about the wage gap Yes it does.
More accidents means the jobs are more dangerous and people are compensated with more money for doing dangerous jobs. And we have data that tells us that overwhelmingly men do all the dangerous jobs. Again this is just basic economics the fact that you can't make several small logical inferences like this tells us all you're woefully under educated about how these systems operate.
>Yes there are differences in choices genders make in labour market, which does have to do with evolutionary psychology and biology. But if that is the explanation for differences in the gap from 5% in NZ and 15% in Sweden, it would have to mean that NZ and Swedish women differ from each other biologically or evolutionary more than Estonian and Japanese women for example.
It heavily depends on sociopolitical positions those countries take, if there's more social programs that take money from business and give it to women then every program that does that devalues women in the work place. These programs differ from place to place and so you'd expect pay discrepancy to also differ from place to place.
More fundamentally it's women who vote for these policies to use force to give themselves things, so I'm not sure what the problem is. Women collectively want democracy and they want leftist policies and they want to be given everything "free", so they're paid less but retrieve that value in other ways.
And what is even worse is that even if they convince the govt to take action and interfere with the market even more than they are now, then it will make the problem even worse because businesses will simply dodge the rules or move overseas taking the female friendly jobs with them, and then we'll see feminists whining that there's no more pink collar jobs to get because misogyny and patriarchy when in fact it's just their own stupid idiotic behavior causing all their problems.
Gabriel Ortiz
Sick digits brah
Jordan Fisher
>More accidents means the jobs are more dangerous and people are compensated with more money for doing dangerous jobs.
The danger of the job and how well the job is paid are not correlated. Banking is high paid profession, construction site is low paid profession, yet in construction sites much more accidents happen.
Isaiah Lopez
At work, women get all the light duties and men get have to live the heavier objects. That isn't equality, women are getting paid the same to do a less physically demanding work. They want equality when it suits them.
Adrian Jackson
Milo's a shit debater desu
Easton Moore
No one actually disbelieves in climate change, they just get paid to deny it.
See Trump and his climate change denial, and how he paid for a sea wall for his resort "because of climate change."
Isaac Smith
>men do actual work >women sit in an office checking Facebook and complaining about being cold hmmm, I wonder why one makes more
Nathan Thompson
Agreed.
Gabriel Murphy
Feminists have no problem with a 10/10 Chad Thundercock having male privilege. Feminists hate all men except Chad. They fucking love it when Chad is successful in western society and is rough with women, but they hate it when beta and omega males have it somewhat good as well.
Carson Bell
>Pics about Climate Change >Thread about Gender Pay Gap
Is this some new level of b8?
Connor Parker
man never invented climate change. climate chages naturally. it has been since earth had enough atmosphere to have climate. Blaming people for changing climate is like blaming people for the changes of the season. it's gonna happen regardless what humans do.
Sebastian Lewis
>Opinions >Appeal to authority >Appeal to the masses
Jace Gonzalez
>Point 1: Why are women discriminated against by for-profit companies
>Point 3: Why aren't women discriminated against by for-profit companies?
....
Uh, Ghenghis, I think you might have slipped up there?
Henry Adams
what role in a movie required him to eat so much after his weightloss?
Ian Cox
I remember reading a long account from someone who started up their own business and decided to employ only females. As expected, it went horribly wrong and she had to shut down the business in about a year. No one hates women more than other women and that became apparent in the story.
Grayson Lee
He claimed he gained the weight for the movie War Dogs.
He was playing one of these two men. See if you can figure out which one he's meant to be.
Wyatt Carter
>(((studies))) Nice source eurotard
Cameron Thomas
1)women experience a pay gap because of maternity leave. Some positions are not conducive to an employing leaving for six months in the middle of a project while still being paid. They are likely avoiding that risk however unfair it may be. 2) it's based on choices and differs about 5% at most in America. A percent that small can be blamed on negotiation skills or statistical noise 3) affirmative action. Although your first point shows that they may.
Gabriel Howard
Cause men get shit done
Benjamin Morris
This is not a system, this is individualist choise of business owners to preferred men over women because men are often better.
Theres no system supporting this, it's just people doing what they are free to do. Make your business and try hiring only niggers see how it goes.
HOWEVER affirmative action and diversity tax cuts are a system that opresses whites and men. Its only that white men are so very superior they preval even against the odds.
Check mate amethyst.
Gavin Reed
>Yes there are differences in choices genders make in labour market, which does have to do with evolutionary psychology and biology. But if that is the explanation for differences in the gap from 5% in NZ and 15% in Sweden, it would have to mean that NZ and Swedish women differ from each other biologically or evolutionary more than Estonian and Japanese women for example.
Compare maternity leave time and if it's payed. Male to female working population in percentage across the whole workforce. Compare average hours, compare average payed free days and non payed free days.
And you will get an answer. Along the lines of because you get more free days that are payed some drop outs by women are actually payed so they don't affect the numbers.
Also look at overtime laws and average contracts as it might be illegal or unlikely for men in that nation over the other to get over time.
Easton Baker
>race is dying >supposed to give a fuck about global warming Let it all burn. Soon they'll realise that the only people who give a fuck and have the capacity to combat climate change are white people.
Tyler Sullivan
They work better.
Jace Hill
I prefer a male dentist, powered tools are not for woman.
Dylan White
Underrated post.
Grayson Barnes
Where is this survey? I looked at the department of labor website and it had no mention of that study (googling comsad stusy has this thread as the first result)
Austin Foster
Many factors contribute towards someones pay, one of which is safety/comfort, just because other factors may (or may not) be bigger doesn't invalidate this relationship
For example if you're a construction worker you'll be paid more to work hanging off the top of a 100 floor skyscraper than you would safely on the ground of a 1 story building. That's just a fact you can go out and verify.
So yes the danger is correlated with pay. It's just not the only thing that's correlated with pay. Are you seriously this stupid, or are you just trolling? I honestly cannot tell at this point.
David Perry
>1. Studies have shown that in most fields (although exceptions exist), job applications with a female name are less likely to get a response compared to identical job applications with a male name. Wouldn't it be weird if this would not contribute to a pay gap between the genders? So you're saying the name is the only factor when someone looks at a resume? You're retarded, kill yourself.
>2. If gender pay gap is due to evolutionary psychology/biology how come it vary from 5% to 30% in OECD countries and 5% to 20% in Western countries? What kind of retard even asks this? >I have no idea what kind of jobs and degrees women typically go for
>3. If female employee is economically more risky to hire than a male due to parental leave, why wouldn't for-profit companies discriminate against women? They'll get sued and lose. Doesn't matter if you discriminate against white men, an ivy league college has proved this.
Sebastian Cox
1. I'd wager that's because applications with male names tend to be better in terms of relevant qualifications and presentation, because men are less self-absorbed than women and so take effort to cater their CV for each employer 2. Doesn't seem like a big enough difference to warrant discussion desu 3. Because it's illegal, dumbass
Ryan Rivera
God, this mentally ill faggot truly needs to be put down. Men and women aren't equal, deal with it. Women leave for maternity, men don't get pregnant so they don't leave. You are scared.
Anthony Gomez
>1. Women are an absolute nightmare to deal with in an office or out in a field of work. They are emotional, lack pragmatism and overall cause tension among the ranks with their subversive nature. And then you post >Strawman and not an arguement Ironic >3. We do discriminate. Except when you talk about them on the internet, right?
Benjamin Peterson
CO2 isn't the building block for all life on earth. That would be just carbon.
Jose Powell
>That's just a fact you can go out and verify. But it's not a generally high paying job you comprehensionless fuck
Eli Anderson
>2016 >pretending global warming isn't creationism for progressives
Ryan Martin
I used to make 6 figures, sometimes a bit less when work was slow, building towers. My job often included hanging off the edge at great heights. Standard union pay for the trade. The guys pouring concrete and taping drywall made much less.
