>Poland is America's greatest ally in the region
>Deployed the biggest amount of troops among all other NATO nations in Iraq and Afghanistan
>74% of Poles hold a favorable opinion of the U.S., making them the most American-friendly nation in Europe, second only to Italians
>The only country in Europe that meets the NATO defense spending goals, aside from UK, Greece and Estonia
>In exchange, Americans will elect Trump, who is going to "cut a deal" with Putin
>He will sell us out and allow Putin to do whatever he wants in Ukraine, which means Russian troops across entire eastern border of Poland
>Instead of supporting Poland and helping it with becoming a local power and main opposition to Russia in region, he will basically allow Russia to rebuild its sphere of influence in eastern Europe
>All of that because Trump supporters fell for the "Based Pootin savior of da wite race"meme, as well as " not being a cuck and opposing Russian imperialism is provoking Russia to war" meme spread by Russian Web Brigades
Poland is America's greatest ally in the region
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You deserve it.
For liking obongo.
Also liking america == having google in your country
Tell me again why you dont get along with Russians?
So what exactly can Ruskie do to Poland? They are even afraid that Poland might not be buying natural gas from them anymore
>For liking obongo
What
>Also liking america == having google in your country
Google is website, you dumb nigger. It exists in the web.
Because they are uncivilised barbarians who don't understand the concept of freedom, love being ruled and told what to do, and always try to force their hegemony on the others.
Nobody who ever had expeirence with them, or was their neighbour, likes them. Much like in case of Jews.
Let that sink in.
So it sounds more like you are jelous of Russia. You have no substance as to why a big Russia would be bad. You are pathetic
>why you dont get along with Russians?
Russia was colonized by Hohenzollerns and Habsburgs. It became a german puppet state and this is when this harsh antipolonism kicked off in Russia. For instance this big victory over the Poles in 1610/12 is a russian fairy tale, because Poland-Lithuania has never wanted to destroy Moscow or occupy it, this is why the army in the Kremlin was so tiny. Poland-Lithuania ended the Times of Trouble in Russia. But this is an emanation of antipolonism inspired by Hohenzollerns and Habsburgs, so they have to falsely exaggerate historical events. In the 16 or 17 century polish-russian relations were much better
>So what exactly can Ruskie do to Poland?
Embargo our products (like they used to do with our meat even during our "friendly" period when Tusk was in charge.
High prices of gas, and monopoly of Russian gas.
Enfocring their influence on Baltic states, Ukraine, Hungary and eastern Europe in general as EU collapses.
Make no mistake. As long as we are part of NATO, in their eyes we are their enemies - and they will do everything they can to make us their cucks again.
>jelous of Russia
Jealous of what exactly?
Their GDP per capita? Their living standard? Their history of always being cucked either by Mongols or their own government?
>You have no substance as to why a big Russia would be bad
Yes I do - Russia is a poor, corrupt country. All the countries once "allied" with it hate it. And most importantly - Russia is our main rival in the region. Weak Russia = strong Poland.
>Weak Russia = strong Poland.
You are both growing a lot right now, so this is plain untrue
You buy a lot of your energy from Russia through gas and oil, am i right? So why would they want to hurt that relationship?
I dislike USA about the same as Russia.
But I hate how US can get away with doing the same crimes and acts like a hero.
Didn't you get anything from what I've said?
Russia attempts to rebuild their sphere of influence in the west, which includes US. It also threathens our position - Poland could potentially become leading country of central and eastern Europe, but it's all for nothing if Russia is allowed to grow strong again - and this is the politics Trump apparently is going to take.
>You buy a lot of your energy from Russia through gas and oil
Indeed - they have monopoly in that matter. It's not like if we have a choice. And it makes it even worse, because the stronger Russia gets, the higher prices for these resources they will charge.
You, Germany and France are the best meat shields of Europe. Don't disappoint us.
You know that one of the most commonly wargamed scenarios is a Russian invasion of the Baltics, right?
As an american I am opposed to American antagonization of Russia, but as an impartial party it's very clear to me why east European countries fear and distrust Russia.
Poor Eesti lost a quarter of their population during the ussr's reign, and you swedecucks sit there and wonder why they might have an issue with the Bear.
>how US can get away with doing the same crimes and acts like a hero
>t. middle schooler
Every superpower does "bad" stuff, it's what the empires do.
The main goal of realpolitik is to do what is the most profitable for your country.
Strong US as an ally (especially in face of EU's disintegration) and weak Russia are key to Poland's future.
why so scared, just wait when financial crisis hit china and they invade russia...
fighting with nato on west and china on east.. it doesnt sound familiar ?
>High prices of gas, and monopoly of Russian gas
But they have to earn money too
Anyway, contrary to Poland, Russia will have to decline, as always. Russia is a system of a constant imbalance
>I am opposed to American antagonization of Russia
Define "antagonization".
How does DEFENDING your sphere of influence and allies in Europe is somehow "antagonising" Russia?
And yes, this includes Ukraine, as they chose to be separate being in 1991, and gave up on their nukes in exchange for US protection.
Can't wait till Hillary wins. We'll finally get to squash Russia once and for all, and squish all Russians like the insects they are.
Prepare yourself Vlad
I don't really see how US is better than Russia. Nobody cares about our interest right now.
We should establish status quo and then take the best offer instead of licking assholes.
In that context I am specifically referring to HRC's intentions for Syria. East Europe hasn't really been a point of contention this election cycle, sorry to say.
And no, I don't actually think Ukraine is worth American blood, they've been in Russia's sphere for 500 years.
You guys and the Balts are a little different, being members of NATO, but Ukraine was trying to play east and west off against each other, that's playing with fire.
>just wait when financial crisis hit china and they invade russia
Don't tell me you seriously expect a regular war between superpowers in XXIst centiry.
>But they have to earn money too
Indeed, which didn't stop them from charging us THE HIGHEST prices of all the other countries, when they were cutting a deal with Tusk's government, which was FAVORABLE of Russia at that time. Remember?
>Russia will have to decline
I wouldn't be so sure. Once the western sanctions are lifted, they might be able to recover. And this will happen if pro-Russian politicians in the west - like Trump and National Front - are elected. That's what Putin is hoping for at the moment.
After 10 years of hibernation, president of USA and Russia woken up. Russian president take a newspaper and laugh reading:
-USA is Communist state.
POTUS also take newspaper and laugh reading:
-Riots on Poland-China border.
Why can't you take care of your own country? Spend too much money on muh european socialism?
i expect few nuclear hits in indtrustal, logistic and population centers and later regular war + short range nukes as support
Don't worry Poland. Nobody will ever let you get invaded again. If Russia is stupid enough to do so, they're going to get dogpiled by Ukranians, Estonians, Lithuanians, Latvians, Fins, Fucking Hungarians, and god knows who else. You'll be fine.
>Trusts britain before WW2
>Gets sacrificed on purpose to start a war
>Now trusts the Nation which gave the clean slate to britain back then, which lead to the clean slate for poland
>sure this will end well
>Deployed the biggest amount of troops among all other NATO
During the Cold War the battle would have been fought on German soil, now it will be your soil thanks to NATO troops there.
Ugh, I can't even, it's 2016
Nice proxy, Correct The Recordski
>I don't really see how US is better than Russia
Where did I say it is? Read my post again.
However, if I had to answer to your question - look at the countries that used to be US allies for the long time and their economy (UK, France, Japan, South Korea), and then look at Russian "allies" (Belarus, Khazakhstan, former Soviet republics) and their financial condition.
See the difference?
>I don't really see how US is better than Russia
Everybody cares about his own interests, but weak Russia can only be good to us.
>We should establish status quo and then take the best offer
Like we are the one to be "taking offers". In the end, if we "ally" with Russia, we will always end up as their slave. It's always been like this.
One of main advantages of alliance with US is the fact that they are on the other side of the ocean, while Russia is right next to us.
> I don't actually think Ukraine is worth American blood
Nobody talks about "spilling blood" for them. Arm them with your stuff and train them, like you used to do during Cold War. You know how to do this stuff.
>Why can't you take care of your own country?
Because we're allied with you, you dumb nigger. Alliance means mutual help. We DID help you in Iraq and Afthanistan. Also, strong Poland as a regional power and ally would be MUCH better option to US than Russia uncertain "ally".
Nobody seriously considers an armed invasion. What I'm talking about is economical and political influence, which Russia might regain if Trumps allows it. And most likely, he will.
You dumbass, Poland has an authoritarian government. It turned itself into another sham democracy in the name of alt-right bullshit.
Y'know, Gorbachev said it when you guys agreed with the Americans to build the missile shield. Russia will never trust America again.
That doubles down for you cucks. You better hope the Deutschbank fails and Europe shakes itself up enough to actually have a plan of action to deter Russian aggression.
well poles have a hard life on Cred Forums... another idiot crying that we will be left behind. Poland can handle stuff like that, don't bitch around internet and stop making me embarrassed of being a pole
Just Visegrad my shit up
Jesteś kurwa debilem, zabij się niedojebie.
>Putin is free to do whatever he wants to Ukraine
This concerns me how?
What's a "poland"?
Why do you have such opinion on Trump? Like he's a rusoboo and shiet?
>THE HIGHEST prices of all the other countries
But now they're concerned that Poland might turn down Gazprom's offer. Haven't you read about how Putin joked that maybe Poland will buy Gazprom's natural gas but through Israel?
>I wouldn't be so sure. Once the western sanctions are lifted, they might be able to recover
Maybe, maybe not. If there's a global financial crisis they won't recover anyway. And there's already conflict in the Kremlin
>Because we're allied with you, you dumb nigger. Alliance means mutual help. We DID help you in Iraq and Afthanistan. Also, strong Poland as a regional power and ally would be MUCH better option to US than Russia uncertain "ally".
Lol this alliance is not at all even.
Only Poles can save themselves from Russian domination. Freedom isn't free. It comes from the blood of patriots. America isn't your father and isn't going to come save you every time you quarrel with your brother (eh...retarded cousin, w/e). America needs to mind America's own business. Fuck everyone else.
>slapping X over a sheet of paper every few years is the pinnacle of personal Freedom.
TOPKEK
Do you think you're free in Poland?
>Can't defend yourself
>Can't own fire arms
>Can't own perpaid phone without registering it
>Purchase of gold now has an ID requirement
>Effectively can't have a business due to Janusze as well as government imposed costs
Just buy a couple nukes from the US or Israel, or build your own, and Russia will never fuck with you.
It's a hell of a lot better of a plan than "stake everything on NATO (read: America) saving us".
>Everybody cares about his own interests, but weak Russia can only be good to us.
I don't care only for my own wishes. If Russia is weak, US gets hegemony, multiculti and (((democracy))) for everyone.
>In the end, if we "ally" with Russia, we will always end up as their slave. It's always been like this.
So now you are the slave of the US which can say "we remove NATO or else" to you.
>One of main advantages of alliance with US is the fact that they are on the other side of the ocean, while Russia is right next to us.
Regarding Geopolitics: Sounds like perfect devide and conquer directed against Europe by the US.
>Just buy a couple nukes from the US or Israel, or build your own, and Russia will never fuck with you.
No one will sell us nukes and as soon as we would start developing them US of A would be the first ones to bring back democracy to us.
>Russia takes back Russian clay
>somehow I should care
>Kaliningrad oblast has been our neighbour since 1945 anyway
k.
Poles just suck US dick most actively hoping US will fight for them in WW3 they (poles) want to start against Russia and Germany. Pure opportunism.
The sucking sounds Poland and Baltics and now Ukraine make all the time trying to show how inspired they are to be "us friends" are pathetic - and everyone realizes that: including US.
I think trump should break a peace with Russia and Poland. I don't know how, but encourage it
>Germany claiming that the US is in favor of multiculturalism
Oh, that's rich. At least we didn't purposefully import millions of mudslimes.
>second only to Italians
I've never seen an Italian here actually post anything favorable about the US, kek
We'll stand by your side, have no fear !
When will this meme die? We would want a nice authoritarian gov, but have only a nationa populist party that will go away in nearest elections
I still love you, Poland-chan
I think the rest of the world should fuck off and stop asking us for help. I'm fine with losing every alliance. We carry all the weight in this relationship. Time to make yourselves self sufficient, and then we can consider a mutual alliance between equals.
Why is it that every Ukrainian and Pole that I meet is really chill and fun to be around but Russians are always drunk and butthurt?
Is it because you lost the cold war or because you lost the space race? I can't tell.
It's either Hillary and war with russia or Trump and switching immigration policy to one favorable to europeans. Who the fuck wants to stay in europe and rot.
>Google is website, you dumb nigger. It exists in the web.
Lurk more, faggot.
Nobody is seriously considering an open armed conflict in XXIst century. The proxy wars like the ones in Ukraine and Syria are the best we will get. War has changed.
>Seriously comparing pre-WW2 and current situation
This ain't 30s son. First thing, UK never really intended to help us in the first place. Second thing, Russia is not going to invade us openly. It's about economical and political warfare.
Wat?
>Poland has an authoritarian government
As much as I'm not a big fan of PiS, they are not even close to being "authoritarian".
>Poland can handle stuff like that
The president of main military ally of your country "cutting deal" with your greatest rival is NOT "just some stuff". It's a realistic danger.
>This concerns me how?
By the fact that Russians retake control over literally the only buffer zone between us and them, sieze control of far more economical resources, put the wavering Lukashenko far more in their hands.
Debilu.
>Like he's a rusoboo and shiet?
This is exactly what he is, judging from his actions so far.
>But now they're concerned that Poland might turn down Gazprom's offer
How, if we have literally no other providers? And building new pipes takes ages.
>If there's a global financial crisis they won't recover anyway
Wishful thinking.
Intermarium when?
Why can't we be friends or at least not enemies, kurwa?
First we should tell Pakistan, Saudi Arabia, Israel, and Turkey to fuck off
Then we should tell Eastern Europe to fuck off
Then we should tell Japan, South Korea, Taiwan, SE Asia to fuck off
Then we should tell Western Europe to fuck off
Then we should tell "Great" Britain, Australia, Canada, & New Zealand to fuck off
Then we should tell everyone else to fuck off
...
Obama wasn't friend to the Poles. Remember the missile defense network that got moved offshore because Putin threw a shitfit? I can't say Trump will be a better president for Polish foreign policy though, because he wants what's best for Americans. Maybe that means buttressing Poland against Russia, maybe it doesn't. FWIW, I think Poland is in a good position to become a vital American ally; good territory and isn't going to be held back by the Nazi stigma if it needs to play power politics.
>Germany claiming that the US is in favor of multiculturalism
This is a fact, I don't have to claim anything
>At least we didn't purposefully import millions of mudslimes.
All these nigger just grew next to the cotton plantations right? And you turned a blind eye to mexican mass immigration for 40 years but in reality, you were really really against it.... ok
You even imported niggers when the entire planet was racist as hell and saw them as useless subhumans to be killed or sold everywhere... and you still took them in for cotton picking. Here we take them in because of our retarded as fuck government, not because the people want them to work in our economy.
While I hate the entire situation, our leaders need to hang and we need a civil war: I believe the arab and european part taken in (around 7% of all refugees) in the last 2 years is still more competent than your nigger problem in the long run.
You guys are so used to being fucked in the ass you don't even know what it feels like anymore.
That media law was passed with no real debate, and just shoved through parliament. It's a pity, I like Polish people but your politics kind of suck and you always make dumb decisions based on the fear that you'll end up drinking alchohol free Tyskie from a hookah if you don't fight the browns.
Hillary would escalate Ukrainian conflict which would push Macierewicz to send polish ground troops to help ukraine.
Putin is one of the only redpilled, genuinely decent leaders in the world today. He stands against the big corporate BS and the globalists.
Young people in Poland dont like USA that much its the old generation from the comunism era.
>All these nigger just grew next to the cotton plantations right?
We enslaved niggers to work on cotton plantations. Guilty as charged.
> And you turned a blind eye to mexican mass immigration for 40 years but in reality, you were really really against it.
I am against it. Most people are against it. Hundreds of miles of unprotected borderlands doesn't help.
>
You even imported niggers when the entire planet was racist as hell and saw them as useless subhumans to be killed or sold everywhere
Nigger WHERE DO YOU THINK THEY WERE BEING SOLD?!? WHO DO YOU THINK WAS BUYING THEM?!?
Picking cotton was important back then.
> I believe the arab and european part taken in (around 7% of all refugees) in the last 2 years is still more competent than your nigger problem in the long run.
Not so sure about that. Niggers don't normally organize gang rapes.
German here, please realize that deep down Germans love you. My dad says that the Polish are just harder working Germans. Please can we just be friends.
lel china will never use a nuke solely to avoid the wrath of usa and the majority of russian nukes either wouldnt launch or are duds
Traitor. These people are occupying our homeland and erasing our history and cultural heritage. Kill yourself.
>Lol this alliance is not at all even
No alliance with #1 global superpower can be "even", kid. But again, read my former posts. Strong Poland as a regional power and ally is much better option to US than Russia uncertain "ally".
>America needs to mind America's own business
See above.
In that case, it comes down to "do we want Poland, which is a good tested ally to be a local power, or do we want it to be Russia, which in general hates us and always aims to fucking our shit up"?
Stop memeing, wykop.
You can't get arrested for bitching about governent in Poland, either on the website or in the streets. In Russia, you can.
Average Pole criticizes the politicians. Average Russian suck their dicks.
This is why I claim Russia isn't a free country.
>and Russia will never fuck with you
Read rest of the thread again. It's not even about military, but about economy and political influence.
>multiculti and (((democracy))) for everyone
You only get that if you are a cuck yourself. Poland is US ally since 27 years, and somehow, multiculti, LGBT and feminism are nonexistent here.
>So now you are the slave of the US
Oh yes, all these US troops forcing us to eat at McDonald's and shit .The horror.
>devide and conquer directed against Europe by the US
Do you consider Russia "Europe"?
Because in that case, you are referring to an asiatic country.
>Russian clay
Ukraine is rightful clay of Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth.
>Kaliningrad oblast has been our neighbour
Do you honestly see NO difference between having a small piece of your land neighbouring with Russia vs. having this piece AND 40% of your eastern border?
>fight for them in WW3
WW3 is not going to happen.
Basically there are three problems with Russians. Actual territorial claims aren't one of them, so the situation is not tragic, but still:
>They can sabotage our businesses in Baltic states and Ukraine - as they had on numerous occasions before. And - to some degree - they can influence some countries of the western Europe in order to cancel certain deals with us. We mostly don't notice that immediatelly, but the stock market notices.
>They can try to have an economic war (embargos, gas, etc...), but thanks to Naftoport we are much safer in that regard.
>They can extend espionage and spreading of political corruption.
All in all the situation isn't that bad, and I don't think Russkies are that willing to go to extra measures in order to prove some point. They would be harming themselves in the process. However the reality isn't as simple as some Polish nationalists want to see it, and Putin is far from an ally.
As to Trump - it's really hard to say. One day he is all cosy with Putin and talks about cutting some deals, the other he talks about how he wants to strengthen NATO by valuing those allie who actually forfill their commitments (which should be good for us). I guess we're in the dark until we see his first policies.
>Wishful thinking
It's certain. There will be either a chinese debt crisis or an italian/german banking collapse
>How, if we have literally no other providers? And building new pipes takes ages
polskieradio.pl
>Why can't we be friends or at least not enemies, kurwa?
As soon as you stop sucking dicks of Hohenzollerns, Habsburgs and Western Europe in general
I'm not saying Hillary is a good pick for Poland either; Polish troops being forced to involve themselves in Ukraine is a risky move. Russia's going to become this sparsely populated minor power over the next 40 or so years, but right now it's still more than a match for people next door to it.
>the average american and their knowledge of foreign policy
No we wont nigger
You paid you debt we will sell those cucks in berlin
No they are not, ishnovitskyitzkypitzky and Alois can be friends
> WHERE DO YOU THINK THEY WERE BEING SOLD?!? WHO DO YOU THINK WAS BUYING THEM?!?
Sold by niggers, transported by (((them))) bought by you
>Picking cotton was important back then.
kek i know, still sounds funny as fuck
>Niggers don't normally organize gang rapes.
True, you seem to have partly domesticated your dark animals. But to be fair, these "rapes" were basically groping girls and put their hands down their pants on sylvester in a place where they did not expect/want that.... same situation happens every night in US (or rather western) night clubs, difference is, the sluts want it there.
it's okey poland you are with europe
The only option for Poland is to build a wall to protect from asian hordes of barbaric moskals.
how is it modern russians want a ww3? you have never been successful on a full scale modern war
They can, but not as long szcsczszcszcszzcszcsz occupies Alois' homeland.
Fair enough.
>Poland is US ally since 27 years, and somehow, multiculti, LGBT and feminism are nonexistent here.
>"Znak pokoju" action so catholics stop telling fags they live in sin
>Daily reminder that partia Razem still operates
>What is "fundacja Batorego" Granted, they took a big hit when some dipshit made an ad comparing polish teens to literally Hitler.
>Ukraine is rightful clay of Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth.
Why people are arrested for tearing down Bandera's banners on Polish soil?
Why is there a Polish school whitewashing bandera and OUN-UPA?
Why isn't government taking any measures to retake Lwów?
>Putin is one of the only redpilled, genuinely decent leaders in the world today. He stands against the big corporate BS and the globalists.
russia
not corrupt as fuck at every level imaginable
europe will blow you back to the midel ages and capture all the land to the ural mountains.
>I've never seen an Italian here actually post anything favorable about the US
pewglobal.org
>Hillary and war with russia
Stop swallowing Russian propaganda, ya dingus. NOBODY is going to start an open war in XXIst century, and most certainly it WON'T be US, simply because they have no interest in it. How do you even imagine such scenario?
Besides, I obviously hate Shillary for being a leftist dirtbag. But at the same time, I don't want a president who will be a Russian cuck and sell us out to Putin.
Soon, hopefully.
When you balkanize and stop being a threat to our interests. It will be good for both you and us - balkanzied Russian states might actually finally get successful and rich.
>Time to make yourselves self sufficient, and then we can consider a mutual alliance between equals
Read the OP again before posting, nignog.
Poland meets every NATO requirement, and covered your ass during your dumb oil wars in Iraq and Afghanistan.
>Obama wasn't friend to the Poles
I never said he was. However, any normal conservative candidate, like Cruz, Kasich, would be much better from Polish perspective.
>That media law was passed with no real debate
Yeah, that's exactly what the governments do - PASS THE LAWS. Big shock. PO did exactly the same stuff, and SLD before them. Unless they actually pass laws banning other political parties, views or censoring the anti-government speech - it ain't authoritarianism.
>Putin is one of the only redpilled
Drop this bullshit meme already. Russia's top 100 millionaires are Jewish oligarchs, and they own vast majority of Russian corporations.
>Young people in Poland dont like USA that much
[citation needed]
Statistics prove you otherwise.
I don't have anything against Germany. Historically, Prussia was our main enemy, HRE usually had good relations with Poland.
Putinboos don't understand criticism of Russia. Don't bother.
/thread
>Poland meets every NATO requirement, and covered your ass during your dumb oil wars in Iraq and Afghanistan.
your "help" will no longer be needed. Don't worry, you can fund your own army instead of nato if you like.
>It's certain
"They won't recover" is a wishful thinking.
Yeah, that's what Putin said. Reality is, we DON'T HAVE pipes that could transport gas from other countries. That's the problem. Even if we start building them, it will take long time, as I said.
>Znak pokoju
>Razem
>Fundacja Batorego
Wow, entire 3% in the elections.
>Why people are arrested for tearing down Bandera's banners on Polish soil?
Are they? Citation please.
>Why is there a Polish school whitewashing bandera and OUN-UPA?
Is there?
>Why isn't government taking any measures to retake Lwów?
>"Retaking" a city with 100% foreign population
>2016
Yeah, back to wykop.
Seriously nigger, if you ever really wish to see Poland in the place of local power (I wish it as well), you will never achieve it by falling for Russian divide&conquer tactics (HURR FUCK DA UKRAINIANS WOHLYN NEVAH 4GET). We have to do it clever. Seize control over Ukraine economically. Act as their friends. Support them in their struggle against Russia. Buy out their companies and politicians.
This is how you achieve colonies in XXIst centiry. Relapolitik.
>These people are occupying our homeland
By "homeland" did you mean "land we have stolen from them and native Prussians in middle ages and then in XVIIIth century, but somehow we claim it always belonged to us"?
>Hillary would escalate Ukrainian conflict
How the fuck is opposing an armed invasion of Russia an "escalation" goddammit. Would you do the same thing if it was Reagan in place of Hillary? Did you really swallow Russian propaganda so hard? Was opposing Russian intervention on Czechoslovakia and Hungary "escalation of conflict" as well?
GIVE BACK PRUSSIA
REEEEEEEEEE
Give it back to the Prussian tribes you stole it from in the first place.
Nah. Hillshill will be as weak towards Russians as O'bummer was.
I hope Trump will finally get it that being cucked by Ruskies is a bad thing.
>your "help" will no longer be needed
Well let's see what you will say when Russia regains its influence in Europe and then starts messing your shit up once again like in the days of Cold War.
>Are they? Citation please.
kresy.pl
>Seize control over ukraine economically
By letting their cheap labor and products flood our market?
>Acts as their friends
By letting them spit in our face and call it rain?
>Sending more equipment to ukraine
>Not an escalation
>Hillshill will be as weak towards Russians as O'bummer was
Most likely, classic conservative Republican would be much better than Hillary.
Trump, however, is going to take the cuckery to the next level. He already talks about recognising Crimea as a part of Russia.
>Ukraine
>A real country
Pick one, Janusz.
No
That was in the name of God
WAIT
I think I see what the plan behind the refuge crisis is now
GTFO, Zhyrinovsky with a proxy.
The only hope I have is that Clinton only acts like a feminist version of Sanders for the duration of campaign, while afterwards doing what she has done outside of it: being hawkish. She voted for war in Iraq, led to Libya intervention - the point isn't that these were crappy ideas, but that she at least dared to do *something* to defend American interests, which is something you can't say about Obama.
>muh tribes
>muh i was here first
Literally injun tier shit
>kresy.pl
Yeah, just like I thought.
What are you going to post next? Russia Today?
eastbook.eu
>By letting their cheap labor and products flood our market
Now, don't you just start that Chad "hurr fooken Polacks dey took our jebs" talk.
There is nothing wrong with cheap Ukrainian labour, especially in face of massive Polish immigration to UK and western countries. Someone have to do the low wage jobs, plus they repair our demographics.
Besides, this is how free market works.
>letting them spit in our face
90% of Ukrainians consider UPA as heroes because of their struggle against Russians, not Poles. They are mostly oblivious about their actions against Poles. Hence why instead of just acting butthurt and pushing them back in the arms of Russia, we should act clever, educate them, and after siezing control over them - force them to stop the worship of nationalists, and replace them with other heroes, like Petlure, for example.
But only AFTER we make them our colony. Or would you rather see Russian troops on our border again?
>Not an escalation
This conflict was from the very beginning started by Russia, so defence against the invasion can't be an "escalation" by definition.
Cut on that divide&conquer bullshit already. Ukraine in our hands, or at least neutral, IS much better option than Ukraine in Russian hands. See above.
>Prussia
>Literally the land of Prussians
See? Even the name says it.
>Our hands
hello Shlomo. I take (((Balcerowicz))) is doing good work?
neck yourself
>Ukrainians dindu nuffin, never knew about any genocide. That's why they deny it happening :^)
>This is how free market works
>Implying Poland has free market.
Fucing knew it you'll say >kresy.pl
>FUNDACJA WSPOŁPRACY POLSKO-NIEMIECKIEJ
pot calling kettle black
Hello Ivan, please go back to Russia if you love it so much.
See? Two can play this game.
By our hands I mean the Polish state. And I ask you again: do you want to see Russia seizing control over Ukraine? Is that you wish?
>>Ukrainians dindu nuffin, never knew about any genocide
Never said that. However, only western Ukrainians were responsible for the genocide of Poles. The one from central and eastern parts (which constitutes the majority of Ukrainian population) had nothing to do with it.
In addition, I was referring to modern day Ukraine. In modern day Ukraine, vast majority of Ukrainians don't know about Wołyń.
>Implying Poland has free market
Doesn't it? Funny, I thought that private business is allowed to exist in Poland.
>Fucing knew it you'll say >kresy.pl
And isn't it true? This portal IS the source of shameless Russian propaganda.
>"Some Ukrainians in Polish school has a book about Bandera"
>HURR ALL UKRAINIANS ARE NAZI SCUM
It's like
>Some Poles shouting antisemitic slogans during the football match
>HURR ALL POLES ARE ANTISEMITES
See a pattern here?
Dumb frogposter
cuck
And you posted EU propaganda, sponsored by germans.
>Modern day Ukraine
>Not knowing their history
>Polish state
Did you mean German-Russian Condominium under Jewish trust?
Best option would be every Ukraine neighbor taking whatever they want from that shithole.
Technically you're allowed to, but go ahead try to run a small business.
Better yet, try running a private clinic :^)
Good luck, you're gonna need it.
We know who our real friends are. Never fear Poland.
The situation with Russia is definitely not black and white, it's a lot more complex. I think Trump would be capable of balancing things out with Russia. Being able to work with them but still standing with our allies and not appearing weak. Why couldn't the US work with Russia to attack ISIS together, for example?
>EU propaganda
An article calling out on blatant manipulations by Kresy is a "propaganda"?
>>Not knowing their history
Indeed, just like little Russians aren't taught about Katyń.
>Did you mean
I've meant exactly what I've meant, stop memeing and have serious discussion or go back to wykop.
>Best option would be every Ukraine neighbor taking whatever they want
>"Taking" a part of x country
>XXIst centiry
You know it's not going to happen.
What IS going to happen if Ukraine doesn't stop the Russian aggression is it getting back under Russian influence.
Is that what you want, Ivan?
Or maybe, perhaps, if you were able to overcome your butthurt and "POLAND STRONK" wykop meme idea geopolitics, you'd be able to notice that Ukraine as an ally of Poland is much more profitable to us, as it gives us more power in region, market to sell our products and potential future colony, especially in face of EU collapsing?
>but go ahead try to run a small business
Yeah, there are no small business existing in Poland.
Seriously, stop repeating every Korwin's word and start thinking for yourself a little.
Be ready for war my friend, from year to year we are growing stronger and they are weaker.
Trump has NEVER claimed that he will screw NATO.
It's simple, if you don't want to pay for the protection USA provides.. then fuck off.
>Fell for based Putin savior meme
No we fucking don't want a nuclear war with Putin over some shit Slavic wasteland no one gives a shit about.
Piece of shit toilet cleaning nigger, suck my American cock some more and call me master
>balancing things out with Russia. Being able to work with them but still standing with our allies and not appearing weak
You don't know how Russian diplomacy work. If you show any sign of weakness, they WILL take advantage of it and use it to their favor. In the first place, by enforcing lifting of sanctions that ruin their economy. In the second place, by regaining economic control and influence in eastern Europe, especially by being gas monopolist. At the same time, they will keep seing US as an enemy and threat to their interests.
>Why couldn't the US work with Russia to attack ISIS together?
Because it's just not going to work. In order to have such "alliance", US would have to first fulfill all the Russia's requirements, listed above. Besides, it's pretty much what is already happening - both US and Russia fight ISIS, just separately. And again, besides - the truth is, from geopolitical point of view, US and Europe don't really have interests in fighting ISIS. What they should focus on is opposing Islam in their own countries.
>Trump has NEVER claimed that he will screw NATO
He is, however, going to suck Putin's dick harder than hippies sucked USSR's dick.
>No we fucking don't want a nuclear war with Putin
Nobody is going to start a fucking nuclear war in XXIst century goddammit. Just arm them with your stuff and train them, like you used to do during Cold War. You know how to do this stuff.
Give that iPhone you're posting from to his rightful owner first, Tyrone.
Don't disrespect your masters, piece of shit
If I were you, I'd welcome my new Russian overlords and thank them from liberating me from my third-world piece off shit country. I'd then move to russia and apply for citizenship to be on the winning side when the US & Russia form an alliance to rule the world together.
>If you're a Russian, I love you & can't wait to rule the world with you.
>Russians
>liberating from third-world piece off shit country
They'd have to stop being that themselves in the first place
That cotton ain't gonna pick itself, Tyrone.
>He will sell us out and allow Putin to do whatever he wants in Ukraine, which means Russian troops across entire eastern border of Poland
Good. I hope he conquer Poland too.
Congress Poland should reborn again
>Instead of supporting Poland and helping it with becoming a local power and main opposition to Russia in region,
Impossible. Poland is full of poles, and poles are the lower people of Europe
>Deployed the biggest amount of troops among all other NATO nations in Iraq and Afghanistan
so what your participation was less than 1k soldiers just like the rest of the european countries.
only the united states has put hundreds of thousands in the middle east out of all the western nations
you have done nothing poland. and nobody will say you have done anything except yourselves
Democracy in Poland is the worst meme. Please someone end it.
>tfw Russia is on its way to have a tsar again
>tfw we're still stuck with Rotations of retards competing who can steal more money and pass the country to the next loser.
Israel's war is not our war.
I believe we can free ourselves from Israel's politics without becoming butt buddies with Russia.
you've answered your own question OP
>Deployed the biggest amount of troops among all other NATO nations in Iraq and Afghanistan
>74% of Poles hold a favorable opinion of the U.S., making them the most American-friendly nation in Europe, second only to Italians
>The only country in Europe that meets the NATO defense spending goals, aside from UK, Greece and Estonia
so in other worlds they do not need to pay us to do their dirty work
why should Uncle Sam care about us if we will suck his BBC anyway?
>t. a fucking jungle ape
>We know who our real friends are. Never fear Poland.
>eagle's head turned other way around
top kek
MUH RUSSIAN INVASION. Do you check under your bed every night for the putin shills?
Another quality deluded shitpost as always leaf
What else should I expect from the little bitch that America use to wipe their ass with.
>Everyone i don't like is Fifth Column and probably a Russian spy as well
Introduction to manistream Polish politics.
in one article they are accusing PiS and Kaczyński of wanting to go to war with Russia and being russophobes
in the next article Kaczyński is a russian spy undermining our alliance with the west and US intrests in the region
it's great!
Jesus fucking christ, Poland, make Intermarium already. We need a buffer zone between us and unwashed hordes from the west.
>Ordem e progresso
>so what your participation was less than 1k soldiers
Over 3000 soldiers in Afghanistan, and over 4000 in Iraq.
>only the united states has put hundreds of thousands in the middle east
Because this war was in your interest, and noone else's. Consider yourselves lucky that you got even that.
>you have done nothing poland
We did our part of deal. No do yours.
>Israel's war is not our war.
I'm talking about Ukraine and estern Europe, not Israel.
>butt buddies with Russia
Strong Poland as a regional power and ally is much better option to US than Russia uncertain "ally". Also, see Once Poland gets under Moscow's influence again due to Trump's politics, we won't be their allies anymore.
>MUH RUSSIAN INVASION
It's not about invasion silly Ivan. It's about political and economical domination.
It would be much simplier if you adopted isolationism politics and stopped this dumb neocolonial politics of Putin.
It would make life much simpler for you and everyone else around you.
> It would be much simplier if you adopted isolationism politics and stopped this dumb neocolonial politics of Putin.
but its not Russia who has bases everywhere. So in fact Russia is self-isolated enough, now trying to maintain buffer zone.
Russian shills in Poland are a real thing. They are mostly Polish nationalists, not PiS, though. I'm also wondering about Korwin, but I think he's just an useful idiot.
>but its not Russia who has bases everywhere
You control the biggest landmass among all the other countries.
>now trying to maintain buffer zone
Except Ukraine doesn't want to be a buffer zone anymore. Just let it go. Also, leave Georgia alone.
Just get over the fact that you aren't a superpower anymore, and start focusing on improving your economy instead. All these wars sure as hell won't help it.
>we won't be their allies anymore
and they will still not care because, if they ever need that, we will still fight for them later down the line anyway
it's time to understand that west wants to rob and castrate us while russia wants to rob and rape us - non of that are good options
we will either super militarise and turn our country into a stronghold or we will forever be a nation of cucks
kek by molesting nearby countries you are doing half of Uncle Sam's job for him
>West wants to split us
>South wants to islamize us
>East wants our resources
>Global cuckening
>Bases and nuke systems in East Europe
>Knocked out countries from our sphere of influence
>Not to mention all the happenings in last 2 years
Poland, really, we are at the endgame. You want Russia out, you could get it. But your country due to us or your "allies" one way or another seize to exist too.
>We must defeat evil Russians so we can finally have progress, democracy and tolerance :^)
>Poland, really, we are at the endgame. You want Russia out, you could get it. But your country due to us or your "allies" one way or another seize to exist too.
chemical castration is still less painful than being raped to death Russia - that's why we are US bitch and not yours
>we will still fight for them later
No we won't because at that point, we'll be Russian cucks.
>non of that are good options
We can't allow ourselves to be all alone, that's a suicide.
What we must do is keeping a strong alliance with US, and strenghtening our position as strong regional power in eastern Europe. Bring V4 more together, and bring Baltic states, Belarus and Ukraine under our influence, creating Commonwealth-like confederation.
What's so bad exactly about alliance with US, except for the fact that we had to send our troops in their aid from time to time? Not a big price to pay, if you ask me.
America is tired of playing the world police. Germany or Russia, pick your overlord Poland.
>This meme pic
Of course, poor oppressed Russia, these troops are there to invade and steal your rich soil.
>Bases and nuke systems in East Europe
>Knocked out countries from our sphere of influence
Yeah, it's totally the fault of that evil west. Not because these countries absolutely hated your shitty rule after it ruined their economy keeping them 50 years behind the West, and now are afraid that you might attempt to "liberate" them again.
Yeah, except that PiS somehow opposes both EU and cultural marxism, as well as Russian shitty imperialism. Checkmate, faggot.
Again, I'm not even fan of PiS, but in terms of foreign policy, they do a good job.
Also, answer to my replies to your post, instead of just avoiding them after you keep getting rekt and moving the goalposts, you little bitch.
...
Our soldiers spilled the blood for your shitty interests in the middle east. All we ask you for in exchange is simply not being cucks to Russia.
>Foreign Policy is a spineless status Quo that works only because nobody bothers coming to poland when germany has gibsmedats.
>Well if they want to come they're welcome ;)))
I'm not going to bother with you, retard.
>Gay=butterfly
That's kinda cute.
I know, I know. We should have accept the offer.
God damn our stubbornness.
I understand.
But look, what is going on in the West too.
You are jumping from one opressive state into another.
Claiming that liking America equals having niggers in your country is just as dumb statement.
Lmao truth is Poles are a nation of daft cocksuckers and they can't into realpolitik because they are driven by emotions and wanting to flip off ruskies instead of being two faced and calculating like every successful nation is. Also amerisharts can't fucking find our country on the map and would sell us for 5$ I'm shocked anyone even considers this a serious alliance.
>No we won't because at that point, we'll be Russian cucks.
there will always be enough poles willing to cuck their nation even further with stupid uprisings in the name of "our freedom and theirs"
>We can't allow ourselves to be all alone, that's a suicide.
we need nukes - and we should obtain them by any means necessary
even if that would mean dealing with Best Korean or binding ourselves to China
>What we must do is keeping a strong alliance with US, and strenghtening our position as strong regional power in eastern Europe.
those things are mutually exclusive, Germany is the safeguard of US influence and Pax Americana in the region
Poland's rise to power would change the power balance in the region and US will not allow that
>Bring V4 more together, and bring Baltic states, Belarus and Ukraine under our influence,
they don't like us, don't respect us, don't care about us, and will sell us out the first chance they get - on top of that nobody there wants to see Poland as leader of anything becouse, for reasons mentioned above, that might put them in conflict with Germany and US
>creating Commonwealth-like confederation.
it's things that will never happen episode
>What's so bad exactly about alliance with US, except for the fact that we had to send our troops in their aid from time to time? Not a big price to pay, if you ask me.
US is behind EU TTiP and CETA
PiS was not supposed to win that last election - that was supposed to be a wakeup call for PO but luckily for us our Big Brother overshot his mark
my point was that US offer is less painful not that you should follow us into the pit
If the price for peace with Russia is Poland, then we'll pay it. It sucks, but you Poles should have expected this.
>lost the space race
wait what?
A lot of Poles like Krystian Zimerman pissed in our face during the Bush years. Fuck them.
honestly polebro given that america niggerizes every country im not sure u wanna be friends with us.
do you recall who always benefits from a war in Europe?
>nobody bothers coming to poland when germany
>if they want to come they're welcome
Nobody in PiS ever said that, and they actually stop the migrants at a border, Ivan.
yahoo.com
Also, PiS denied every migrant invasion Berlin tried to force on us.
Your true colors show, Ivan. You are not a patriot. You just want to suck Putin's cock.
Reply to my arguments, or admit your defeat.
>But look, what is going on in the West too
And that's the best part.
We don't succumb to neither of the sides. If you haven't noticed, we somehow didn't magically started accepting fag marriage or feminism just because of being in EU and NATO. We're still a conservative country.
That's what our future targets should be: keping military alliance with US, profiting from EU as long as it exists, albeit avoiding any dumb laws they'd try to pass on us, and building strong nation block of our own that will oppose both Islamic western cucks and Neo-Russian Empire in the future, including V4 countries, and former Commonwealth countries.
Muslims are pop rocks. Skittle is fucking retarded.
Just because you got to within one foot of the finish line in record time does not make you the winner. You didnt cross the finish line first.
We did.
Suck it.
>Muslims are pop rocks. Skittle is fucking retarded.
>That's what our future targets should be: keping military alliance with US, profiting from EU as long as it exists, albeit avoiding any dumb laws they'd try to pass on us, and building strong nation block of our own that will oppose both Islamic western cucks and Neo-Russian Empire in the future, including V4 countries, and former Commonwealth countries.
Poland has neither money nor manpower to pull that off and nobody will help us with that
see
Well, on that point I mostly agree with you both. Just hope, you dont overplay yourself. And that we all shall not slip into hot war.
For me personally, any antiislamic alliance would be preferable.
Anyone who isnt in Europe. You name it.
>cuck
>with stupid uprisings
So, uprisings against Russians are somehow "cuck" thing now. I see.
>we need nukes
We won't get them. Cut your fantasies and think realistically.
>Germany is the safeguard of US influence and Pax Americana in the region
As long as they are stable, and things can change very soon as Islam slowly takes over.
Besides, Poland doesn't really threathen German influence, since our sphere of interest would be in the east and south - V4 and former Commonwealth states, as I mentioned before. Add the fact that most of Poles see US favorable, unlike Germans.
Strong Poland can only be good for US.
>it's things that will never happen episode
Says the man who seriously says we should get nukes in the same post.
Unlike your "plan", this one actually IS realistic. Ukraine already broke free from Russian influence, they are kind of out of options - they can either rely on us, or get partitioned. Balts are afraid of Russia, and as EU slowly collapses, they will need us as an ally. Lukashenko is wavering, but even he starts noticing that he won't be able to keep playing both sides endlessly.
>TTiP and CETA
That EU opposes, and will not accept.
>PiS was not supposed to win that last election
Cut on conspiracy theories, PiS won fair and square. Mainly because the liberal "opposition" is THAT shit.
Then krauts should fuck off and stop whining about muh Danzig.
You are not forgotten.
Don't be so paranoid. But I agree you guys are a good ally.
Thank you ameriga ;DDDD
truly our greatest ally :DDD
Google is a massive corporation with it's base of operations on America's west coast.
you just use the web service it provides in exchange for all the information it can get it's hands on.
It's ok Pole. Soon you'll have the European Union Refugee Military to look after you ;)
"Google" was a synonym of niggers in Macedonia's post.
Google as a website is accessible from every country on earth, except for North Korea, maybe.
Russia is Poland's neighbor. No treaty is going to change geography. You ought to get used to it.
>does not make you the winner
Im not even russian James
>We did
>Suck it.
>You will immediately cease and not continue to access the site if you are under the age of 18.
let me put it that way
as an ally, Russia is 9/10
Poland is 6/10 on your best days
>realpolitik
>being two faced and calculating
>Thinking Poland is in position to be "two faced and calculating" in the first place
t. wykop meme expert
See
On vacation in Poland, Zbigniew?
You keep mentioning wykop, maybe you should go back there?
>So, uprisings against Russians are somehow "cuck" thing now. I see.
So what was the endgame for January Uprising exactly? We could not win that and yet we started for no reason. Same goes for Kościuszko Uprising which only facilitated the fall of the Commonwealth.
>We won't get them. Cut your fantasies and think realistically.
most likely we won't get them, true that - but they are still the only way out for us
>As long as they are stable, and things can change very soon as Islam slowly takes over.
last time I've checked US was not at war with Saudi Arabia
in 50 years they will still be stable and still the main "ally" of US in the region - just with sharia law
>Besides, Poland doesn't really threathen German influence,
we are the most important part of German sphere of influence
and since we would have to get free to start building our own - that would hit Germany hard
>since our sphere of interest would be in the east and south - V4 and former Commonwealth states, as I mentioned before.
thanks for modern means of communication and transportation Germany needs no intermediary to rule over them and would gladly add all that market to its sphere of influence
>Add the fact that most of Poles see US favorable, unlike Germans.
so once again - we are working for them and they don't have to pay us, why US would want to change that?
>Strong Poland can only be good for US.
we bring nothing better to the table than they currently have
>Ukraine already broke free from Russian influence, they are kind of out of options - they can either rely on us, or get partitioned. Balts are afraid of Russia, and as EU slowly collapses, they will need us as an ally. Lukashenko is wavering, but even he starts noticing that he won't be able to keep playing both sides endlessly.
they will always choose Berlin/Washington over us - want a case study see Lithuania
>Cut on conspiracy theories PiS won fair and square
they won only because two minor commie parties dun goofed
>as an ally, Russia is 9/10
You are delusional if you truly believe Russia is going to become an "ally" of US. See and
That's what you get for starting WWII fucking faggots
>mfw
Don't worry Poland, Trump won't forget a true friend :^) He's going to make sure we keep on winning and that includes our friends, we're going to win so much together that we're going to get sick of winning, we're going to ask Mr. Trump, "Mr. Trump, We're getting bored of winning lets mix things up" and Mr. Trump's going to look at all of us with love in his eyes and say "no" and we'll keep right on WINNING.
Also we'll bring Italy along for the ride and make Ferrari great again. They'll start reproduction testarossa's and Fiat will start making cars that actually look good.
Answer my arguments from previous posts, or leave this thread, Ivan.
>We could not win that and yet we started for no reason
Yeah, but how is starting a rebellion a "cuck" thing? It's completely the opposite of it, if you ask me.
>but they are still the only way out for us
Bullshit, there are a lot of rich and influential countries without nukes.
>last time I've checked US was not at war with Saudi Arabia
Saudi Arabia isn't a hellhole of a civil war that Germany is soon to become.
And after it ends, whatever is the outcome - it won't be the strongest player around anymore.
>that would hit Germany hard
And this is exactly why we should rely on US, not any western European country.
From American point of view, it's not really important if Poland or Germany will be their local ally. They are interested in loyalty in the first place.
>would gladly add all that market to its sphere of influence
Once again - Germany is slowly dying. It's a well known fact. Our advantage in race to Ukraine is that 1. They are not in EU 2. They border us 3. Ukrainians immigrate here, not to Germany 4. Germans aren't as willing to support them in their conflict with Russia as we are.
>why US would want to change that?
Because - I repeat it again - strong Poland is in their best interest.
>we bring nothing better to the table than they currently have
The situation is changing rapidly, as the EU collapses and Western Europe has to face the problem of islamic invasion. In a few years, Poland is going to be the strongest stable country in the region.
>they will always choose Berlin/Washington over us
Not if we give them ultimatum - ally with us, or we'll support Russia instead.
>they won only because two minor commie parties dun goofed
They won because people had enough of PO bullshit, and because of that retarded 500+ program.
Shit, you convinced me. I'm not worried at all anymore.
God bless Ameriga :DDDD
I know that feel, polebro.
> nie denerwuj sie Andrzeju, damy rade
>Yeah, but how is starting a rebellion a "cuck" thing? It's completely the opposite of it, if you ask me.
wasting resources and manpower in the name of someone else interests is no different to letting some other guy fuck your wife
>Bullshit, there are a lot of rich and influential countries without nukes.
Poland is neither rich nor influential our location sucks and on top of that we are currently being digested inside someone else sphere of influence
>Germany/EU fall
they are not yet lost tho - and meanwhile our current government not only agrees to the creation of EU super-state border guard, but also invites it to our country
even if the common men will look different in a couple of years, as long as elites stay in power nothing will change, so don't get your hopes up
>why US would want to change that?
>Because - I repeat it again - strong Poland is in their best interest.
So how exactly are we better than Germany?
>Not if we give them ultimatum - ally with us, or we'll support Russia instead.
threat only works if you are willing to actually pull the trigger, besides we don't have a gun and it's hard to talk with 'murica's BBC in your mouth
>They won because people had enough of PO bullshit, and because of that retarded 500+ program.
they won because SLD+TR+PPS+UP+Zieloni decided to go as one block and that 7,5% votes they got turned into no seats in parliament for them and a bonus for PiS
>Google is website, you dumb nigger. It exists in the web
being this new
...
>wasting resources and manpower in the name of someone else interests
How is fighting for your independence "someone else's interests"?
>Poland is neither rich nor influential
We aspire to be that.
>our location sucks
It provides both problems and opportunities. Opportunities being the fact that we are one of the strongest countries in region, while the west will soon face the problems of racial and religious nature that won't exist in here. In a sense, we are in a perfect position.
>currently being digested inside someone else sphere of influence
Doesn't mean we can't do our own business at the same time, if our interests are mutual.
>they are not yet lost tho
But the internal situation makes them weakar every day. Brexit did its job as well.
>our current government agrees to the creation of EU super-state border guard
I don't really see a problem with that, if they will help with keeping the Muslims out. International EU army - that would be a problem.
>even if the common men will look different in a couple of years, as long as elites stay in power nothing will change
You don't think that Muslim will just overtake them peacefully, do you? The civil war IS going to happen. It's just a matter of time.
>how exactly are we better than Germany?
We see above - we are stable. We don't have millions of Muhammads and Mehmets attempting to enforce Sharia on us.
>besides we don't have a gun and it's hard to talk with 'murica's BBC
If Trump becomes a president, I believe he wouldn't have anything against such an option. Russians as well. And Ukrainians know it well.
>SLD+TR+PPS+UP+Zieloni decided to go as one block
Neither of these except for SLD was relevant, and really, I don't thing that even them getting to parliament would change a thing. PiS would just form a coalition with Kukiz. Or still some people from Kukiz if he didn't agree.
>Poland is America's greatest ally in the region
Sorry to tell you this bro' but the nukes went to us, not you.