Trump to debate moderators: Don’t even think about fact-checking me. My supporters are watching!

>Trump to debate moderators: Don’t even think about fact-checking me. My supporters are watching!
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And you guys act like Hillary is the bad guy.

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wtf I hate Trump now

It's official I'm a #shillforhill

As long as he gets up there and says "we don't win anymore and if I get elected we are going to start winning tremendously. Right now this country is doing very poorly. I am going to make America great again." then the trumpettes will be happy. Throw in some crooked hillarys too for good measure.

I just hope Clinton shreds him on his simple bottom feeding bullshit. Go full Jed Bartlet on him.

hey ctr

sup little bitch

>bottom feeding bullshit

What like racism and identity politics?

hey shill

Coordinates with time stamp, plox. Two forms of identification as well.

Daily reminder that this racist tanned bigot with fake hair doesn't have a leg to stand on.

Trump don't like them facts much.

>Drumpfkins
>knowing facts

lol

>republishits
>being right about anything

topkek

He is right. Drumpfkins don't care for facts.

>republicans "handed" the end of the recession to obama
>in a democrat-controlled congress

I can't wait for Hillary to stroke out when Trump pushes her shit in.

drumpfshits blown the fuck out

Lol, calling Crawley "basically right"

That passed me off so fucking bad when that fat cunt dyke called Romney out, and now these revisionist Biggers are saying he was wrong? Fuck these people, seriously retarded.

at least put some effort to your trolling

don't use pictures from facebook

You Taliban now

>washingtonpost.com/
might as well post a Gawker article, senpai

>ad hominem

Not an argument.

thanks for correcting the record, OP

>OMG WASHINGTON POST DUMB SHILL!!!!!?!?!
>*posts kikedart article*

That pic pretty much explains why I'm voting Hillary. Not because I like her, but because Trump is 100 times more crooked than she is.

People can call her a criminal all they want. But until a prosecutor decides there's enough evidence to bring a case against her, it's all nothing but a pathetic attempt to smear her for political purposes.

Sorry, boys, but I take the meanings of words seriously and literally. I don't call someone a "criminal" unless they're actually convicted of a crime. Find a prosecutor with enough evidence to bring a case and win it, and then we can talk. Until then, I don't give a fuck about your whining.

truth-out.org/opinion/item/4258:glenn-greenwald-why-is-the-elite-class-protected-under-americas-justice-system

Hillary is above the law, has been for a long time.

>Leaked US Security secrets
[citation needed]
>Got people killed at Benghazi
Not her fault.
>Corruptly rigged primary
[citation needed]
>Has enemies die mysteriously
Nice conspiracy theory.

Stock markets being over-inflated is a very bad thing.

They are so high because interest rates have had to be kept so low. There is nothing else to put money into. Bonds and CDs are worthless. Nobody wants to invest heavily in Europe or China for fear of them economically collapsing. Real estate is still shaky.

It all goes into stocks because the whole of the economy is shit.

>said mean things
>was responsible for numerous bankruptcies
>said mean things
>used hundreds of thousands from his "charity" to settle his personal lawsuits
>said mean things
>created a university that existed solely for profit and wasn't really a university to begin with
>said mean things

A FUCKING TOOTHPASTE

clinton is not his chosen one, she will not survive.

Trumps alleged "crimes" do not measure up to the evil of getting a rapist out of jail by destroying the evidence and laughing about it. tell me, how much money was the rape victims innocence worth?

>Hillary is above the law, has been for a long time.

Here are a couple of possibilities:

#1: She is a criminal mastermind with the power, influence, and pull to continuously break the law and get away with it. Using a vast network of co-conspirators, who have tight lips and similar criminal mastermind status to ALWAYS somehow escape the investigations of an entire country of inept law enforcement, Democrat lead congress, Republican lead congress, Democrat presidents, Republican presidents, and all news media outlets.

She is a super villain. Greater than any ever seen. She is bullet proof and immune to attacks from foe and friend alike. She is an amazing character straight out of fiction. If this is true, she doesn't need to become president, she is already the most powerful person in the world.

OR

#2: Calling her a "criminal" is a cheap dirty way of trying to hurt her politically.

I'm a big fan of Occam's Razor. So I'm going with #2.

Comey literally said she was guilty but that no prosecutor would take the case retard

Checked

>was responsible for numerous bankruptcies
Happens in the business world all the time. Good thing the vast majority of his businesses didn't fail, but economically illiterate liberals don't care.

>used hundreds of thousands from his "charity" to settle his personal lawsuits
No credible sources exist for this, but if it allows liberals to ignore the Clinton foundation acting a a slush fund, then liberals don't care.

>created a university that existed solely for profit and wasn't really a university to begin with
Again, zero credible evidence that shows his hand in any part of that university beyond charging them to use his name on their door, but if it allows liberals to ignore the far more egregious crimes commited by Clinton, liberals don't care.

the light spoke through my post.
he is praised.

sorry but she has drawn his wrath.

>The commission is allowing for a custom-made podium, which will accommodate the difference in stature.

...

noice

Again, Greg,

Your claim that Candy Crowley was "correct" in the Romney debate is at odds with what the Washington Post fact checker said right after the debate itself. In fact this very newspaper awarded Obama 4 pinocchios for making the claim:

"Note that in all three cases, the language is not as strong as Obama asserted in the debate. Obama declared that he said “that this was an act of terror.” But actually the president spoke in vague terms, usually wrapped in a patriotic fervor. One could presume he was speaking of the incident in Libya, but he did not affirmatively state that the American ambassador died because of an “act of terror.”"

washingtonpost.com/blogs/fact-checker/post/obamas-claim-he-called-benghazi-an-act-of-terrorism/2013/05/13/7b65b83e-bc14-11e2-97d4-a479289a31f9_blog.html

Isn't it ironic that you accuse Trump of just making stuff up, when you just did the same thing yourself?

>the evil of getting a rapist out of jail

> current year
> not understanding the legal role that defense lawyers play in keeping prosecutors honest

>tries to conflate legal issues with a word like "crooked" which has no legal significance
>quantity over quality
>fundamentally misunderstanding how suits involving business work
Not even a trump supporter

>I'm a big fan of Occam's Razor. So I'm going with #2.
That's not how Occam's Razor works.

You cannot discount established facts simply because they're more complicated than "she didn't do it". And the established facts say that she was involved in these activities and does have a vast network of people working with her to help cover it up and advance her goals.

A good application of Occam's razor would be discrediting the belief that Hillary's health and criminal record is a conspiracy by a Russian president using online white power frog memes to discredit her.

You people who vote for hillary because trump is shit are just as morally bankrupt as the people who vote for trump because hillary is shit. Only way to win this game is not to fucking play

CTR is in full panic mode after Debate officials BTFO shillary.
>no step stool
>no coughing breaks
>stand for 90 minutes without croaking while looking like a midget next to 6'2 Trump
drudgereport.com/flashny.htm

whats your point? she laughed about it and destroyed evidence. you can't tell me a person who does this can be possibly good.

just because you're a lawyer, doesn't mean you have to be a bad person. and she chose to be one.

> not understanding the legal role that defense lawyers play in keeping prosecutors honest
> not understanding the difference between that and laughing because you know your client did it and making jokes that she probably asked for it

>Current year
>Year in which this happened
>Same
No

Judges read intent into the statute where it isn't and shouldnt be

It has nothing to do with comey. Stop spreading this meme

>the investigations of an entire country
No, she doens't go to prison because she has elite immunity, just like Bush did not go to prison for war crimes and treason. Because the members of the elite will not convict each other.

It's not the entre country, it's the justice department and the FBI, which work at the direction of the president. The FBI was instructed not to look too deeply. Only one person, Obama needed to be involved, and he has a vested interest in Hillary being elected.

>what are interest rates

Hillary is female Jeb with health problems and media backing. He will rip her apart.

>sup little bitch
Don't try to sound like a google, It's embarrassing for all of us.

>mastermind
>extrapolating until everything sounds ridiculous
Leftists sure do this a lot

>occam's razor
>literally the opposite assumption the statute in question takes
If they followed the statute, she'd be guilty.

Google strict liability and understand that the reason why intent should be in the statute is because it shouldn't matter

Actually my guess is that you haven't read or watched anything materially related to the situation and you're talking out of your ass

Because if they fact check him, he will blow them the fuck out with sources and evidence. And all his supporters will be watching and get their hands on those sources so they can blow liberals the fuck out on the streets

Hillary is far tougher and smarter than Jeb.

...

My first reaction to this post was to wonder why you were bringing race into this discussion. The memetic virus works fast.

(((fact-checking)))

vieze kankerflikker

he's referring to the fact that moderators aren't meant to "fact-check" people during debates iirc.

>why intent shouldn't* be in the statute

Hillary's case is the kind where intent don't matter, only the action commited.

What an incredibly misleading headline. Trump said no such thing nor anything even close to that.

God damn that's a nice cluster

>im 12 and dont understand what a bankruptcy is
>i dont understand the difference between personal and corporate
>i dont understand what a FOR PROFIT university is
2/10 apply yourself

>


>Sorry, boys, but I take the meanings of words seriously and literally. I don't call someone a "criminal" unless they're actually convicted of a crime. Find a prosecutor with enough evidence to bring a case and win it, and then we can talk. Until then, I don't give a fuck about your whining.

What is your opinion on illegal immigrants? They aren't criminals because there are too many of them to convict? If enough people break the law that makes it ok?

Something similar is a huge factor regarding convicting Hillary. One of the main reasons they cant convict her is because it would make hundreds of government employees guilty by association. This is also the biggest reason why even if Trump wins he won't end up getting Clinton convicted.

Not when case law has disregarded the language of the statute

The reason comey said no prosecutor would take that is because judge made law has ruined the statute and you would never be successful solely on strict liability

It's total fucking bullshit but judges have way too much power

No, no she isn't. I don't get why you guys bother with these talking points, everyone on Cred Forums is going to have seen her fail against Bernie, Obama, and everyone else she's ever debated.

>My supporters are watching!
kek

>And you guys act like Hillary is the bad guy.
She's a merchant of death.

>it would make hundreds of employees guilty by association
Iirc a breach by one person doesn't implicate the people involved that didn't breach

Unless you mean people doing something similar, in which case they either should be held accountable, their administration's could punish them, or if it's minor shit they can say there wasn't clarity in the law and basically be on notice from then on, with no punishment

...

>QUESTIONER: Lester Holt — should he be a moderator, and just ask questions, or should he be a fact checker, where he asks a question, and if somebody says something that he thinks is wrong, that he’s gonna try to correct the record? What would you like to see — a moderator, or a fact checker?

>TRUMP: Well, I think he has to be a moderator. You’re debating somebody, and if she makes a mistake, or if I make a mistake, we’ll take each other on. But I certainly don’t think you want Candy Crowley again.

>QUESTIONER: [Snickers knowingly.] She was wrong!

>TRUMP: I really don’t think you want that. That was a very pivotal moment in that debate. And it really threw the debate off. And it was unfair. So I don’t think you want that. No, I think you have to have somebody that just lets ’em argue it out.

You know, I think there’s a lot of pressure on Lester. I think Lester’s a very good person, a very good man. I think there’s a lot of pressure on him. You know, when I had the town hall, last week with Hillary, I did well, and I had tough questions. But the polls all had her taking a drubbing….They went after Matt Lauer, and I’ve never seen anything like it….That’s what they’re doing with Lester Holt…and a lot of people are watching to see whether he succumbs to that pressure.

Washington Post is at it again!

He's saying that Hillary will call Trump out and Trump will call Hillary out if any of them lie. The moderator shouldn't interrupt people to correct them, let the two people debating correct each other.

You know, like an actual debate...

Fuck I hate the media

WOW YOU RELY CORRECTED MY RECORD WIT ALL THISE ARGUMENTOS AND FB PICTURES FREUND

Fact-checking is part of their job. He just doesn't want them fact-checking because he intends to lie his ass off.

if you kill your enemies, they win

Moderators are not supposed to fact-check in a debate. Their only job is to present questions, make sure the debate is under control, and allot equal and fair time for each response.

correct the record hillary shills are here

If moderators don't fact-check, you can just lie as much as you want. That's Trumps intentions.

No they can't because their opponent will call them out on it.

Do you even know what a debate is? Not even a political debate, but a normal-ass debate?

I am by no means an expert on law.

Stefan Molyneux's presentation on Comey explained how convicting Hillary would set off a ripple effect which would result in the indictment of other govt employees. Sorry I can't provide specifics off the top of my head or give you an estimate of what time in the presentation he covers this.

are you fucking retarded?
Trump is debating Hillary, not the fucking moderators.

This is not a normal debate. This is important so moderators fact-checking is fine.

gop.com/debate-prep-survey/

Donald is so pathetic. He's literally asking ordinary people how to debate.

He knows the moderators are planning gotcha questions. He's warning them not to try their usual shit with him, like they have done in the past, where they challenged his common sense approach to the issues... "fact checking" is just another ploy to spin and re-frame the narrative in politically correct liberal context... Trump supporters, his movement, will be watching, and holding the moderators accountable for their shit... This isn't politics as usual any more.

Remainer detected

fuck you faggot, Scotland will never be free

I wanted to leave, fuck the EU. Also, fuck Trump.

>be exactly right
>this is somehow wrong

It's Sec. Clinton's job to call Trump out when he's wrong, not the fucking moderators.


And yes, Trump's supporters will get mad at the moderator throwing his dick around where it doesn't belong, just like Hillary's supporters will if done to her, or anyone else's supporters in the same situation for that matter. This isn't a threat, a call to arms, or anything of that nature; it's just a simple fact of human behavior.

It's funny though. A foreign government does not have to install a puppet, or hack electronic voting in order to install their favorite candidate. They can just make him dance to their tune, as he will do anything he perceives popular.

>"fact checking" is just another ploy to spin and re-frame the narrative in politically correct liberal context
How much mental gymnastics does it take to think something like this? Also
>ID has Fap in it

He's right though

This isn't a Trump vs Hillary vs Moderators 3way debate

It's Trump vs Hillary

drumpf is a waste

I'm sure clinton will make a very strong appearance, what with her history of lying to veterans (on video, no less), coughing up blobs, and falling down

> trumps crooked acts
> fairly standard casino/hotel shit

vs

> hillarys crooked acts
> literally killing people for money

go warm up the ovens

Fact-checking like Crowley did last election? I'd be weary of their fact-checking as well.

Don't embarrass me in front of my various Stoopids. youtube.com/watch?v=7NB7Jz27b7E

>anger
As any sensible American would

>hatred
is a piece of meaningless leftist rhetoric to villify people they don't like

>division
>implying division isn't what makes us strong

wtf I love trump now

I watched the same presentation

Molyneux is just as ignorant as most of this board and isn't privy to the case law surrounding high government classification. Basically the law says x person can't jeapordize y information. The judges of course corrupted it to read: x can't jeapordize y, but if x doesn't know y is [secret], then it would be unjust to assert they violated the law.

So when hillary clinton doesn't know something is worth classifying to begin with, and doesn't understand how sending an email can jeopardize that information, she won't be held responsible. Her """ignorance""" apparently saved her, which may or may not be the truth of the extent of her knowledge.

Comey said she was inept at best to the point where it would be like convicting a child for accidentally sending something top secret.

And this is based on my impression of the entire hearing, subsequent hearings, and some case law I've been told about. And you have to know what each person in the hearings is saying too. The vast majority of them have no idea what they are talking about. Like 3 republicans and 1 democrat spoke with intelligence on the subject.

Molyneux also getting sloppy and uses less critical thinking with each video, falling into the common wisdom of Cred Forums type beliefs

I'm fine with this as long as they fact-check Hillary as well, but they won't because they will have been specifically instructed not to.

>another 9/11

well... that one kind of came true. we've lost a few hundred civilians to terrorism over the course of Obama's administration

>Corruptly rigged primary

that one's true. unless you actually believe that DWS acted independently in her nefarios media manipulation schemes

DRUMPF CAN SUCK MY DICK FOR ALL I CARE
SAY NO TO RACIST, SEXIST, ISLAMOPHOBIC BIGOT
DRUMPF WILL NEVER WIN HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

They'll fact-check both but Trump will say on Twitter that they were biased anyway.

Oh hey Mr Trump I really want to learn from you I would even pay to learn some tips and information from you oh whats that you're going to start a training program well gee like I said I'd sure like to learn some things from you being a very successful businessman.

Do you. Even. Understand. What a free market is?

>Product required
>Product produced
>Money changes hands.

The only potential ethical concern with something like "Trump University" is that people might have the expectation that through some magic going to Trump University will immediately turn them into billionaires. Like, I invested thousands of dollars why aren't I as rich!!

Jesus people. Please think.

>business deals gone sour are worse than people getting murdered

This is the world we live in today, folks.

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>Shill gets triggered over getting exposed? Mental gymnastics is what "Fact checking" is all about... It's about defining the parameters of the argument and cherry picking statistics that fit the narrative...
Just look at the methodology of polls that give Hillary +7. The polls are clearly designed to give Hillary advantage by intentionally over sampling liberals and women... and then, MSM presents the polls as "objective facts" to sell us the, "people trust Hillary more" narrative...
How can anyone who is capable of critical thinking deny that? You have to be intellectually dishonest or morally bankrupt to do that, or you're just a useful idiot.

The shills are pushing hard today

God Emperor will win and there's nothing CTR can do about it. Remember to show your love for Trump whenever you notice more shilling than normal. Liberals are a cancer and we will remove them forcefully from our lands.

>How much mental gymnastics does it take to think something like this?
We fact checked that statement, and your opponent has never done gymnastics of any kind. Care to respond?

>she is already the most powerful person in the world.
She works for and is funded by the most powerful people in the world.

the only way trump will survive the debates is if his supporters do not care about him lying

he said earlier he could kill someone and not lose supporters

i think he is right

They're both bad guys

>He thinks Hillary that was already struggling when facing off Sanders stands a chance against Trump
AH!

Yea but thats more of a charade to provide some legitimacy to not indicting her, rather than a real compelling legal defense.

'absolutely nothing'

Trump supporters hate facts. They're not keen on policies either, which is why they love The Donald so much.

The article headline is very misleading.

No it isnt

If cases have come out a certain way, they'll keep coming out that way unless you have something interesting to challenge jurisprudence with.

Ttrying to prosecute a case that is bound to fail could even implicate professional misconduct.

The legal defense is that she isn't implicated by the statute and that's thanks to the faggot judges we have shitting up courts around the country and especially in the federal system

every last WaPo article headline about Trump is purposefully misleading so as to be as detrimental to his campaign as possible. every single one.

Broils my blood every time.