/left pol/

Communism works when you're not a weak boo-hooing piece of shit beta. Which most communists are, so inevitably they screw up their revolution from being weak betas. That's why Stalin won.

Hi comrades

What do when you're /leftypol/ almost entirely excepts that you'd like equal but homogeneous societies ?

Communism has never been really tried, and Yougoslavia under Tito is a counter example

I agree that we should use those fleeing from war to fight those causing war.

APOLOGIZE

>Brazilian problem solving strategies

>Venezuala
>Socialist
img.booru.org/lefty//images/4/76831ee8f2a94e6f7dace1d3c94633f8ea578cc6.gif

Mother of god. A French commie. I'd tell you to eat some .45 caliber aspirin, you pinko cheese eating surrender monkey, but your weak womanly hands probably couldn't rack the slide

>Had a socialist revolution
>Ruled by socialist party since
>IT WASN'T REAL SOCIALISM GUYS

What happened to the first amendment
Also weak banter

Democracy is vital to socialism, and the problems appeared after Chavez died

Doesn't change that the means of production were privately owned, it was state capitalism if anything
Not that your burgers know what "nuance" means anyway

I've read Marx's works, in fact im reading "A Contribution to the Critique of Political Economy" at the moment.
The fact that anyone finds Marxism appealing is beyond my understanding

They can claim it wasn't real capitalism.
You can claim it wasn't real communism.

You both will never have the pure manifestation of your ideologies because purity is an absolute and absolutes don't exist.

So, the only thing you have left is the intent of the political party to decide whether it intends toward one conception or another.

Venezuela intended socialism.
USA intended capitalism.

They are what they intended.

>Communism
>Free speech

Here come the KGB to drag you off to the gulag for not espousing enough support for communism.

Don't disturb the Cred Forums comfort zone, where everyone agrees fascism is good, user.

Pic related. I don't support Stalinism.

>Venezuela intended socialism.
There is not one single kind of this ideology, and if it were the case, it was a Socialism that strongly profited to private owners of the companies.

Venezuela is not the point though. The point is that neither the environment nor the people can withstand unleashed Capitalism today. People lives matter more than profits.

What you guys consider "Socialism" is also pretty imperfect. Welfare as an example is more strictly socialist, it's merely a tool to starve off riots and allow upwards mobility - which is key in Capitalism.
tl;dr : Venezuala is unrelated to the critique of neo-liberalism and globalism today.

Facism and Communism(especially Stalinist apologetic retards on /leftypol/) are fucking awful user.

What /left pol/ needs

t. Libertarian I presume

You can support Socialism without being a retarded tankie
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socialism_with_a_human_face

Nice, thanks.

I never said anything was bad about Socialism( it's got its problems but so does every other political alignment). I'm just saying I fucking hate tankies as much as I hate stormfags.

Shit the last good thing my country did was based in socialism.

you want to fight murica? germany your clearly drunk again. i understand a crazy potato lady has ruined your country and it has driven you to drinking and you probably dont have a reason to get out of bed...

but i dont think you want to fight america. we start drone stroking you more muslims will come to germany because it will be just like home for them

aesthetic as fuck, though marx was clueless on economics and math, I can't take communism seriously

>If you agree that we should fight those causing war, instead of those fleeing from war

>Strasserism
Worse than tankies

Apologies. I have an hard time imagining Canada being socialist though, what are you talking about ?

Marx was fast from clueless in economics, his teachings (minus the conclusions he reached) are integrated in the policies of most European states.

He also correctly predicted the rapid wealth concentration in the hands of few we see today.

>marx was clueless on economics and math
His analysis was used by actual capitalists to get bigger profits. For its time (and it was really centred for its time) it was very accurate.
He's also the father of modern philosophy in a way.

We shall educate new fags

lol Germans really are giant fucking cuckolds huh

Our country isn't as socialist as the nordic countries but we're more socialist than the US. Our country recently started a program that allows younger people( between 18 and 25) to receive a bunch of subsidies for education in a trade of their choice. It also gives you a loan with extremely little to no interest for any tools required.

I think it's only started in Ontario right now but it's a decent step to single payer college education here.

I think he means USSR and such. Pretty much the same applies though. USSR was destroyed by war and under siege by most of the world. They lacked democracy and never had an opportunity to develop in peace. So it's no suprice they failed.

Capitalist countries under siege fail a lot.

This picture is too harsh for the second collum. There is some truth in feminism and the like.

I agree. Why blame kebabs? Just nuke Germany for letting them in in the first place. This is like the fourth of the fifth time you're trying to cuck Western civilization.

Everyone: The true face of the ARYAN.

THEY MUST BE SENT TO THE BLOOD REFINERY.

dont worry
you'll grow out of it

like every other Western 'communist' in his 20s since 1975

Nordic countries are not really socialist. Not even socio-democracts. They are an original style of capitalism that tries to save his own skin mixed with a lot of social liberalism.

This is much better than the USA, but still not even close to "socialism". Sweden and Denmark sucks if you're not in a trade union, for example.

Yeah, a reason Yougoslavia was more successful (and has today two good and liberal states of the EU) was warmer relations with the West. Stalin was fucking stupid.

You can't grow out of logic and rationality, stop defending ideology
Read Zizek faggot

I agree with many things, except "returning the industry to the first world". Bangladesh and India won't be better off after that.

>gif
if that's true, why do everyone say they're socialist except you?

>Stalin was fucking stupid.
Stalin was a genius. Like Hitler and many others. The issue is not intelligence, the issue is values and interests. That is why democracy is the best system. People might not be that intelligent, but they are collectively interested in common good.

ahahaha
it's like you people have a script

Why do want to live under a jewish oligarchy?

It's vital to us and the planet, sadly. Allowing India/Bangladesh exploitative practises is absurd.

I'm in favour of heavy foreign aids to developing countries. In form of qualified workforce if necessary.

Reminder that Trump is the communist mans choice

t. Jew puppet

We already do so today. And the alt-right are their best goys, since they don't care about economics at all.

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Everyone says that racism is bad, why does this board even exists ?
this is a weak argument Cred Forums

I disagree. He was incompetent, Hitler was too. Attacking Finland was a mistake. The Soviet-
German pact was a mistake.

His strength was his personality cult.

>lol stop being an ideologue
>here, read what some dumb ideologue said

t. someone who never read marx

If there are some enthusiasts, /left pol/ needs:
1. A logo or banner
2. A manifesto

Strasserist go away

Why would a failed billionaire who has its businesses abroad be the worker's choice

>leftypol

KYS

NOT A SINGLE ONE OF YOU FUCKS WOULD EVER WATCH BASED MIILTON FRIEDMAN

youtube.com/watch?v=MRpEV2tmYz4

youtube.com/watch?v=FOMI0ORGH44

youtube.com/watch?v=DYeYPcougmA

youtube.com/watch?v=9Qe7fLL25AQ

youtube.com/watch?v=tsZt2Xc_8NI

because this board is bad and Venezuela are socialist

But allowing them to produce goods for us is, sadly, the best aid program we can offer.
The reason people in Bangladesh aren't seeing any fruits of their labour is corruption. But people in China saw their wages and living conditions rapidly improve.

I think that our answer must at the moment be the local economy. Bernie Sanders revitalised economy by supporting local entrepreneurs.

youtube.com/watch?v=Zn-aC9N0ZSA&list=PL1cUCcB25EPEoJnRJvyaw9kfr7DGEAopI&index=10

michaelhshuman.com/

Instead of a top down revolution, which at the moment is not possible, we must create a bottom up revoilution in our communities. As they grow richer, heathier and more sustainable, others will have a reson to join the grassroots socialism.

Obviously he is better than Hillary. Faintest praise anyone has ever received.

I would argue that Denmark is socialist enough. It's probably the ideal for every nation to aspire to.

An even higher tax burden would be unnecessary. Danes already get a lot for their taxes.

Because he is less likely to kill us all in WW3.

Por que no los dos?

POST PICTURE OF YOUR LOHNABRECHNUNG

99.99% CHANCE YOU NEVER PAID A SINGLE CENT OF TAXES IN YOUR LIFE

POST IT!!!

POST IT!!!!!!

>I disagree. He was incompetent, Hitler was too.
Incompetent in what? At war sure, but his focus was getting power. He managed it.

Hitler was a genius, though an insane one. He in the end was not stupid, but batshit insane and totally psychotic.

that's what happened here over last few years. george osborne and iain duncan smith's austerity measures that went so far as to deny disabled people money that they can't live without. it resulted in 2000+ documented suicides and likely more that aren't known.

Yeah I was there once. It gets better when you get into national pride my friend, just keep reading posts and refrain from posting things yourself.

Guess that's part lg why Brexit happened. Blame problems homemade by Thatcherism on the EU.

Do they have a worker-owned society ? Have class differences fade away ?

Not really. Denmark is at best a social Democracy, an original form of Capitalism that tries to solve some of its contradictions.

You're right in a way, but it must be limited. Countries needs their own national industries. France and Germany have some sectors that hold on, but it's not true of Spain, Portugal, etc...

False. Trump have had very liberal quotes about nuclear weapons that should be enough to make you say nope. Only good thing is that he would try and retreat from global police, which would make the world less fucked up.

thought so

Hartz IV NEET KEK who never paid a single cent into the system

Kill yourself

>interventionism
kys authoritarian scum

I refuse to believe this isn't a shitpost

>Hitler was a genius, though an insane one
Nah. Germany at peace under him would have failed terribly - his policy of right hand versus left one was destructive and terrible.

They were good at taking and consolidating power. Bad at statehood.

What's up with all these mentally handicapped western European cucks spamming /leftypol/ threads in recent days?

>Not really. Denmark is at best a social Democracy, an original form of Capitalism that tries to solve some of its contradictions.
I think that's sufficient, to be quite honest. Every Dane gets a shot at life, even his expenses during study paid. And I'm not against market economies altogether. Only against the globalized, deregulated insanity we see today.

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How did you get here , shoo shoo

youtube.com/watch?v=0nWhQO6joQs

yep, right wing press is dominant here and has spent years blaming the EU for the government's war on the poor.

it's no surprise really that the areas of the country which were most strongly in favour of brexit are the ones that are hardest hit by austerity measures. the sad thing is these areas will only get worse outside of the EU as what little money they did see was from the EU or from westminster through an EU law that forces westminster to distribute money somewhat evenly (but not really evenly at all). fuck brexit, the north of england will look like detroit in 10 years.

I actually worked 1 month in a factory last summer. Shit was hard.

It's good but not perfect. If I was campaigning, that would be my programme. Perhaps with a bigger emphasis on state-owned public services and universal work laws, not just for Trade Union members.

Liberate capitalist scum. Even the rich, the powerful, and the owners are victimized by capitalism, addicted to power and greed by it, their very purpose and meaning hijacked.

Capitalism is a virus of ideology, behavior, and habit that has infected most societies all over the world. It has evolved into the virulent global corporate capitalism we are all subjects to. It has consumed everything: first food and other basic necessities were commoditized, which benefitted the average man by drastically reducing the cost of them, but capitalism didn't stop there. It went right up Maslow's hierarchy, commoditizing social and psychological needs, sexuality, and even meaning and purpose itself. Social media, the gamified synthetic interactions of likes, favorites, shares, and subscribes, is the purified expression of this. We exist socially in a regime of total cultural capitalism.

With nothing left for Capitalism to consume it now has us consuming each other: we resort to cannibalism. The Nigger, The SJW, The Alt Righter, The Fucking White Male, the Republican, the Democrat, and everything else - just commoditized brands of hate. Cred Forums is beautiful in that it is an uncensored, unfiltered expression of this, it truly does tell it how it is.

It is apparent that we now truly live in the final stage of capitalism: after we consume ourselves there's nothing else. This is why apocalyptic narratives are so popular now: it is easier to imagine the end of the world than the end of capitalism. Having a basic faith in the survival instinct within people, I don't believe that doomsday will come, but rather we will find a way out of capitalism's hells because there is no other way.

As far as I remember, you in France had the President that came closest to an outright modern Communist - Mitterand. But his reignship wasn't all that glorious, partially due to high interest rates by the Central Bank at that time.

How is Mitterand perceived today?

>worked 1 month in a factory
>shit was hard

Jesus, you lefties really are limp wristed faggots, kys.

Why don't the communists just give up? The only people who are left to fight for a "worker's revolution" are 3rd worlders. Do you really want to live in a shit communist society AND among majority browns?

You tried your hand instilling communism in white countries and it was shit. Just imagine the death and destruction when the "revolutionaries" are africans and mestizos. I'd just fucking kill myself.

>What do when you're /leftypol/ almost entirely excepts that you'd like equal but homogeneous societies ?
You'll get neither under capitalism.

That being said I agree. People should have a right to decide who can arrive to their communities. I don't believe in any of this altruistic bullshit nor do I trust anyone who claims altruism.

I'm a socialist because I'm a fully selfish creature. I know that I am dependant on the nature and the society and thus need them to prosper for me to prosper.

>90043802
Commies have killed more than the black plague. More of my own countrymen than all of deaths combined throughout history. Most of Europe put their lives on the line to fight your cancerous Judaic ideology. I will not rest until your kind is exterminated and your teachings never to be heard of again.

It was hard. And it was a good experience nonetheless. Where have you worked ?

>Mitterand
He's only remembered for his mistress, his turn to the right in the second mandate and the 35h/week (which is now mostly a legacy status.)
He's not as noteworthy as the popular Front.

>among majority browns?
Like you do? Is more capitalism suddenly going to change the results of capitalism?

And what have Capitalism done ?

I'd say more individualist - as in, society is to help the individual and not the reverse - than selfish.

It's far fetched to attribute WW2 deaths to Capitalism, tbqh.

In fact, our countries haven't been at war with each other since they started trading. So the common market actually established peace in Europe. That deserves to be acknowledged.

It's not capitalism that causes diversity, it's the Jews. Notice how most communists were also jews. Multiculturalism has little to do with economics. Multiculturalism has little to do with anything outside of a global conspiracy to replace whites.

This will continue to happen regardless of whatever economic system is in place. The Wiemar republic and communistic Eastern Europe had their own "diversity" and degeneracy agenda, and pushed for it much in the same way we do now.

Communism/capitalism is not the source of replacing whites, it's the jews.

But my point is, there is no reason to even want to try communism when places like America are about to become majority non-white.

Pic was unrelated, but also in the case Canadian poster was a reactionary.

Sad that you can't really have this argument in modern leftist circles without being unjustly labelled as racist. I'd say that it's not only bad for us, but also for them. Immigration made slaves of them.

>Multiculturalism has little to do with economics.

It does. Multiculturalism is a direct consequence of free markets. There can be no isolated culture, if there is active trade and exchange of workers.

>tfw liberal and browsing Cred Forums for 2 years almost every day

>When you realize that the Red Pill is an addictive drug of condensed hate.

Seek rehab.

>c Eastern Europe had their own "diversity" and degeneracy agenda
50 years and total state power, yet those places are still white, and not particularly 'degenerate'. While the US is.

Blaming 'the Jews' as always.

A small dose of multiculturalism is not bad per see. Culture thrives in cosmopolite places. Though however makes everything fade to grey.

>Every year 15 million children die of hunger. In order to satisfy the world’s sanitation and food requirements it would cost US$13 billion, an amount roughly equivalent to what the people of the United States and the European Union spend on perfume each year
aasd.k12.wi.us/staff/hermansenjoel/apmuseum/vogt/starvation.htm

>On average, a US resident would have to work over 93 hours a week at the minimum wage to earn a living wage.
marketwatch.com/story/you-have-to-work-100-hours-a-week-to-get-by-on-minimum-wage-in-these-states-2015-10-13

>63% of Americans are only 1 surprise $500 bill away from financial ruin.
cbsnews.com/news/most-americans-cant-handle-a-500-surprise-bill/

>More people have been killed in the U.S. by right-wing terrorists than Jihadists since 9/11
newamerica.org/in-depth/terrorism-in-america/what-threat-united-states-today/#americas-layered-defenses

>In 2012, the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation avoided more tax than it gave in grants ($4.5 billion v $3.6 billion)
theecologist.org/News/news_analysis/2986941/gates_foundation.html

>The majority of Russians' income has fallen since the fall of the USSR
taipeitimes.com/News/world/archives/2011/04/13/2003500648

>Top 100 CEO Retirement Savings Equals 41% of U.S. Families
bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-10-28/top-100-ceo-retirement-savings-equals-41-of-u-s-families

>The wealthiest 20 Americans own more money than the bottom 160 million - half of the population.
america.aljazeera.com/opinions/2015/12/the-wealthiest-dozen-americans-own-more-than-the-bottom-half.html

>Richest 62 billionaires as wealthy as half the world population combined
theguardian.com/business/2016/jan/18/richest-62-billionaires-wealthy-half-world-population-combined

neocoms are responsible for everything wrong in the world, fuck Marxists.

Too bad that racism is the only chance for the USA not to turn into an oligarchical equivalent of Stalinism. And you're fighting that. Thanks.

Yugo was a disaster, fucking faggot.

>modern leftist circles
Literally the most useless people ever born. Those people's support makes success less likely, not more. Fuck them.

The Archdruid wrote a good post on why the modern left is utter shit:

thearchdruidreport.blogspot.fi/2016/08/learning-from-failure-modest.html

Right...

>Multiculturalism is a direct consequence of free markets.

No it isn't you monstrous faggot. It's a result of opening your borders and inviting them in like the white cuckold you are. Germany wasn't suddently more capitalistic september of last year when the millions of arabs and africans waltzed in.

>There can be no isolated culture, if there is active trade and exchange of workers.

How about you simply trade with other nations of different ethnicity? Instead of importing sweatshops into your own nations, fuckwad. but that would be too much to ask, because most of them don't even work.

If capitalism is all about profiteering, explain why the majority of browns coming in end up on welfare, a subsidy of the state? That doesn't sound very capitalistic to me.

but you're already an oligarchy
bbc.co.uk/news/blogs-echochambers-27074746

according to princeton academics, at least

Thanks, I can use some of these as headers for /left pol/ threads.

>If you agree that we should fight those causing war, instead of those fleeing from war
Sure
But you have to agree that no Islam is allowed either
You abolish religion or you are part of the problem and go to gulag

here's the actual paper

scholar.princeton.edu/sites/default/files/mgilens/files/gilens_and_page_2014_-testing_theories_of_american_politics.doc.pdf

>Muh joos

Not what I've read. During Tito lifetime it was ok. My parents went there during their honeymoon.

Yea fuck Capitalism we should give all of our money to the government to distribute it fairly :)

Is the country that is the largest importer of foreign workforce in the world telling me that? The country that supports the creators of extremist Islam (Saudi Arabia) for profit? Really?

US is a prime example of Capitalist interests leading to multiculturalism. We Germans are small copycats of your model.

Sorry, but segregation was destroyed by Jews, not capitalists. Capitalists just supported the Jews because they saw opportunity there for profit.

Typical greedy Anglos.

But what if those fleeing from war, is creating a class struggle European Communists are losing to Nazis?

>you will never have a qt 3.14 nazbol gf

segregation was stupid

>We implemented every plank of Communism besides abolishing the use of currency, which is technically impossible anyway
>This minute difference would have changed the country from a massive economic failure and possibly the most expansive destroyer of human life in history to a utopia
Pure and total delusion.

>homogeneity, a positive predictor of social stability and happiness, was stupid

K, whatever you say Juden

The state of Yugoslavia today isn't that much better, though.

>Jews
Ths is really just stupid. Everytime something goes wrong Cred Forums screams The Jews! while ignorign the monetary and other motivations at play.

Are you fucking retarded? I just said they were supported by Capitalists.

Read.

>The average wage for the bottom 90% of British Workers is £12,969 per year
voxpoliticalonline.com/2016/01/23/average-wages-for-90-per-cent-of-british-workers-are-less-than-half-what-youve-been-told/

>50 US for-profit hospitals charge uninsured more than 1,000% of the cost of care
washingtonpost.com/national/health-science/why-some-hospitals-can-get-away-with-price-gouging-patients-study-finds/2015/06/08/b7f5118c-0aeb-11e5-9e39-0db921c47b93_story.html

>The Wealthy in Florence Today Are the Same Families as 600 Years Ago
blogs.wsj.com/economics/2016/05/19/the-wealthy-in-florence-today-are-the-same-families-as-600-years-ago/

>14% of US American households (17.4 million) are food insecure. For Black and Hispanic households, the rate goes up to 26% and 24%, respectively
feedingamerica.org/hunger-in-america/impact-of-hunger/hunger-and-poverty/hunger-and-poverty-fact-sheet.html

>Retail CEO Salaries Soar But Workers' Hardly Budge
thinkprogress.org/retail-ceo-salaries-soar-but-workers-hardly-budge-b7a1266e36dd#.ay4vk7sbx

>Higher income inequality leads to less of all forms of social, cultural, and civic participation among the less wealthy
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economic_inequality#Social.2C_cultural.2C_and_civic_participation

>The poverty rate in 2014 for US under 18's was 21.1%
census.gov/topics/income-poverty/poverty.html

>fascism is bad
>t. communist

Are you a Communist, user?

>comrade

dude just pull yourself up by your bootstraps :^)

>Notice how most communists were also jews
False, and don't bother linking Nazi-propaganda, I have already read it and 100% there aren't any real sources. The Putin speech is either translated wrong, or he is misinformed. You can actually check these things.

>Multiculturalism
A neo-liberal project
youtube.com/watch?v=-IZCcUBBCd0

>there is no reason to even want to try communism
You could still have a homogenous Commune, working with other white Communes.

There's everything in your reach to allow you to do that
And instead you blame society like a stupid fucking nigger

Have you tried being yourself?

Nein

I would argue that it's nonsense that Germany intends to profit from the refugees. They'll cost far more than they contribute and will mostly stay unemployed.

how do you expect there to not be any poor people in a society that works on denying others of wealth in order for you to accumulate it?

Immigration IS GOOD for a Capitalist society. It's Capitalism. More work force = more pressure on jobs = less rights (inc. salary) for workers. True, more people also equals more demand - but the people keep pouring. Reserve army of the proletariat.

The German state, as in the tax-payers, would not profit. The businesses and corporations would. The same everywhere.

neck yourselves lads

exactly. a good capitalist would just import cheap labour from the 3rd world or outsource the jobs completely. this is way more cost efficient.

>A security check on a US company has reportedly revealed one of its staff was outsourcing his work to China.
bbc.co.uk/news/technology-21043693

2 different factories over 6 years, but I like being a farm foreman a lot better. More time in the open air. I hope it was a good experience in why the proletariat are laughing at you and think you're a pussy.

They'll have to deal with political instability now and the possibility if higher taxes in the future.

You are correct user.

Thanks for the perspective comrade

Multiculturalism is a style of management for disparate cultural groups within a given jurisdiction.

plato.stanford.edu/entries/multiculturalism/

You can have different cultural groups within a country without adhering to the doctrine of multiculturalism, which usually promotes the maintenance of different cultural groups, rather than their assimilation.

that's why self described multiculturalists don't subscribe to the older American "melting pot" view because "muh assimilation is cultural genocide"

What If I don't care about who is fighting the war and who is fleeing from it?

Apparently being anti-(((the ones causing it))) and being pro-homogeneous are mutually exclusive to these dumbfucks.

Good luck getting cannibalized by intersectionalist cucks!

Ikr

Communism is an ideology for ants, not men. A free man is entitled to the fruits of his own labor, and others are entitled to their own. Your flowery rhetoric doesn't change this basic fact and the majority of people on this board are too smart to fall for your bullshit spiel, comrade.

>A free man is entitled to the fruits of his own labor
That's not been the case in the US, for decades.

Go back to your containment board you autistic cringy neckbeards

>tfw Stalin betrayed the revolution
>tfw the USSR could have been a successful commie experiment

Feels bad man

>autistic
>quoting all those posts
haha nice one :^)

We should stay the fuck out of Middle East and Africa. If they are fighting wars there, let them kill each other. It doesnt affect us.

kys retard

>It's another larping sovietboo frogposting commie neckeard episode

I agree you should kill yourself.

Finally some non-fucks.

Why is it that every commie i have ever seen is a massive faggot? I honestly wish i wasn't raised on the NAP and could just chimp out on them because there would be none left.

No commie experiment ever has or ever will be successful.

Our intervention is part of the reason why the Middle East is such an unstable region. Now the damage is done and we'll better be leaving, him?

Kill yourself you useless commie.

>Leftypol
>workers

Have you already preordered your new iPhone?

Of course a fucking effeminate commie neckbeard cuck is a jihadist mudslime apologist

daily reminder that communism and it's neocoms are the force destroying European civilization.

This thread is not for you comrade

End NATO, socialism would become more prevalent then.

Enjoying austerity, Nikolopoulos? Was fun bailing out our banks with Greek public money? Good goy.

Lapring sovietboo neckbeard. Are you a slavnigger at least?

>tfw had to submit a Marxist reading on some selected short stories based off what we've studied of Marxist literary critics yesterday
>tfw fear I may have gone in too hard on some of my analysis and that I sounded too much like i was trying to sell the reader on communism rather than discuss it

i'm not looking forward to the marxist section of my "debates in history" module for the same reason, whenever this sorta stuff comes up i always let my biases get the better of me and dip a bit too deep into proselytising instead of analysing

Mudslime apologist leftcuck neckbeard virgin

The Middle east is such a mess, because we divided it to keep it weak, purposefuly so that every country would be a mixed bag of groups that hate each other, so that the fucking muslims would stop waring against us for two seconds.

Nice array of random words, serf

I don't think that we caused the divide. Sunnites and Shiites hate each other since Islam exists. But we're certainly using it.

Funny how overemotional right wingers get over different opinions.

youtube.com/watch?v=9b8xZbo6qyk

Mudslime loving cuck. Unless you are a literal shitskin. Plenty of shitskin t*rkroaches are into left wing politics in Germanistan.

Are you the millennial thread poster?

Whatever makes you sleep at night, serf

Just to remind you, potato nigger: supporting communism is supporting the Anglo.

>Greece
How's that economy going for ya, bro? Enjoying those refugees much?

I'm a left wing socialist, seeing all these right wingers have a meltdown like this is pathetic, Tumblr level. So sad.

>serf

[autism intensifies]

Whis the one frequenting threads he doesn't like here?

Pro tip - not me, serf

He's hot, any nudes of his cock?

always found it crazy that women are the ones who let thatcher in.

so much for manly individualism and feminine desire-to-help-others.

...

Maybe they didn't know what she stood for then?

>A free man is entitled to the fruits of his own labor
That's literally the point of communism.

(Not a commie, but if you were to justify communism in a line it would be "A free man is entitled to the fruits of his own labor", instead of "a free man is entitled to live as a wage slave while shareholders can live off the profits of a factory, paying someone else to handle the management of said factory, merely because they initially invested capital.")

who /hype/ for comrade corbychev winning the leadership election again tomorrow

They must have, given they kept voting Conservative even in 1997 (when Blair was obviously going to win) and 2001 (when Blair was obviously not a socialist.) only moving to Labour in 2005 (When Blair decided to manufacture red flags by dipping white flags in Iraqi blood.)

There should've been new general elections after Brexit.

>Says the autistic effemiante commie neckbeard that has spent hours in a thread always bumping it right before it gets deleted

It's that autistic NEET neckbeard from brit/pol/ again

Oh, so you're still here, serf

Fuck off Trot.

>They are what they intended.
In that case, the USSR made multiple successful moon landings. After all, they intended to.

brexit hasn't even begun yet tho

>A free man is entitled to the fruits of his own labor
Exactly

Well, -2 isn't that much of an statistical difference. But women bringing Thatcher in power is indeed interesting.

Maybe it won't even begin, if the City doesn't allow it.

>Being Pro EU
Kill yourself porky.

>serf

[autism intensifies]

>left wing
>not making everything they tough worse
wew

There's not one thing the left wing has touched which hasn't turned to utter shit.

You must be over 18 to post on this site

You're repeating yourself. Serf.

Russia
Eastern Europe
China
ect

>what I've read
and what exactly have you read?

>this is the thread for you.
really now?

yeah the schooling system seems to have failed you badly

Yeah, those countries are just great.

That hasn't* turned to utter shit

Friendly reminder.

I'm not for Hillary.

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fucking lol are you really trying to imply hillary clinton is a lefty

Are trying to say that China was better before Mao? Jesus christ.
Thanks to capitalism.

fag

>Tfw I was a former Marxist
>Can now BTFO any commie arguments in favor of right leaning views
>/Lefty pol/ permanently banned me because my opinions were too hot

Jewish slaves every one of you.

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What kind of Marxist were you and what marxist books have you read?

hurray another dirty Marxist terrorist... still at least he admits it. Unlike the other political figures who larp as conservatives and god knows what else

>Thanks to capitalism

People still argue this? Slavs are Slavs. No matter what economic system they fall under.

Yes but we did draw borders in a way where there would be a good chunk of shias, good chunk of sunnis and few kurds thrown in for teh lulz in each country. If they were all in their ideologically homogenous countries, the region would be much more stable, and we would be once again defending against raids.

I'm saying that the country would be better now without the communism than it currently is.

>Thanks to capitalism
>he thinks massive state intervention is capitalism

*dies because of the black death* oops

Hello Peter.

>get banned for shitposting
>i-i totally BTFO them u guys

nice1 cuckboy

Socialism doesn't work.

Just like you.

That's right, colonialism player a fair share. But they could've resolved their matters nonetheless. Germany and France were known for attacking each other every periodically as well. We overcame than, whilst the Shiites and Sunnites never did.

>being proud of banning people
wew

I was a Marxist loosely, so I suppose neomarxist. Didn't fall under a single category, but other than everything written by marx which I read around hs, I was pretty into Adorno and Oppenheimer. Frankfurt school type things, of course until I realized how hypocritical nearly all of it, and how much it innately puts white people as a sort of unattainable "godlike" existence built on the social construct that race is a social construct.

>Inb4 muh F scale

>en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_capitalism

Yeah those millions of illiterate peasents without access to food or healthcare it was so great senpai

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They made entire threads dedicated to the "Cred Forums problem" and got people to rage quit out of their own debates.

Pretty good time fampai, would do it again if they unbanned me.

>fight those causing war

You mean people like Hillary Clinton and Barrack Obama?

anyone who disagrees online must be banned

anyone who disagrees irl must be shot

this is how we progress

How is it hypocritical? Also explain
>how much it innately puts white people as a sort of unattainable "godlike" existence built on the social construct that race is a social construct.

If you were a true socialist you would insist that the local region act to protect the refugees - not ship them to other countries for financial benefit.

yeah

but they are not leftists

>le state capitalism meme

>access to healthcare
hahaha I see you've never had to use the NHS

>illiteratacy
yeah, those comprehensives sure are great, thank you socialism!

Both healthcare and schooling was more accessible before the government attempted to make them "accessible" for muh poor and muh retarded. I can still get private health insurance for less the contribution I make towards the NHS in taxes.

>ship them to other countries for financial benefit.

What do you mean by this?

I blame them too, for not being leftist enough. Albeit the Iraq war wasn't a Democrats' decision.

Our 'colonialism' was in response to their colonialism. It was literaly only way to stop them for a while. And now it starts to rise again and if they ever estabilish new caliph sudenly we'll find ourself with 50 million hardline salafists calling for our blood.

The conflict between shias and sunnis will never end, ever. Their arguments are exactly as tney were 1400 years ago. Only thing that we will get is some twisted version of their feud spilling in more and more countries.

all these capitalist shills are getting triggered today

don't worry boys you will get you 2p, just keep saying kys and you will become rich :^)

yeah, not even close. hilarious when americans call hillarysupporters leftists

Another Communist prophet, come to deliver the betas and omegas to the promised lands and create a rich, diverse and just world.

you can always come to work in Polan

>Our 'colonialism' was in response to their colonialism.
Never heard about Syria invading France or the UK, though, it happened the other way around.

Did you even read the article?
>no healthcare is better than mediocre healthcare
The NHS was better before Blair also have you ever heard of Cuba?

Then why were the illiteratacy rates so high?

Because Syria was made up by colonialism, you dumb fuck.

>Tfw when I have the opportunity to redpill commies but I got shit to do
>Thread will be archived before I get back.
>Will still get the "lol dropping out i see"

In a nutshell, and this is something I've debated some of my uni professors on, the concept of Critical Race Theory and the concept of race being a social construct is only possible if you completely ignore the scientific consensus behind the disease model, innate social hierarchies, and make the leap that race isn't just compilation if different ethnicities who have a similar genetic makeup. Therefore, it in itself is a social construct, especially if you do a psychological profile of the Frankfurt School. On top of that I argue that Oppenheimer and Adorno both project the shit out of their own nihilism onto the world and treat whiteness as the ontological other pathologically, yet deeply desire to be white.

While where we draw the line as to what makes someone European or African are somewhat arbitrary, if I bring up ethnicity, then critical race theory has some problem.

I meant the territories preceding the modern Syria. The Osmanic Empire never got further than Austria.

Yeah totally I mean it wasn't as if Iraq and Iran were way better before American imperialism or anything.

has it ever crossed your mind that those who flee from war are the same that cause it?
think about it for a second, and look at the different continents history for the last 70-80 years and see who has fled.

the narrowness of communists seems. we can all agree that socialism and Marxism s great Ideologies, but only that.
the fact that people believe man can share, co-operate and work together on such a large scale has been proved unsuccessful time after time, country after country.

but still people try, or believe its possible.

Marxist wacko cucks believe in the tabula rasa man. They are completely insane and should be ridiculed everywhere they go. Those retarded useful idiots are enabling the displalcement of European people from their ancestral land. They are worse than traitors. Disgusting cringy neckbeards.

>I can blow you the fuck out but I'm not going to hahahaha
>INNATE social hierarchies are a thing
What does any of this have to do with marxism anyway?

Oh, nice to still see you here, serf

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>ever heard of Cuba
The leftists always used to bring up Venezuela as a good example of socialism working. :^)

>Then why were the illiteratacy rates so high?
I don't know how to break it to you but literacy rates have been steadily declining since the 60's. I wonder what happened to education around then.

>The NHS was better before blair
It was garbage then and it's garbage now. Very little actually changed other than news reports. I've been on an NHS waiting list for a year now waiting for a routine operation. If I had taken out private insurance earlier it would've been done by now (and done better), the private insurance isn't even expensive either, even someone on the NEET bucks could afford it.

t. self hating Turk

>serf

[autism intensifies]

greek serf having autistic episode. when he stops we'll know he's now hitting himself in the head and shouting

Hmmm how could it be if you raised your minimum wage

>Greece more Turkish than Turkey

Top lel

t.nigger mudslime loving cuck

At least you are not pretending to be a "redpilled" commie like those sovietboo retards at 8gag

Ugly autistic effeminate commie neckbeard trash

People don't get full time jobs anymore

20h minimum wage -> still no living wage

aren't fedoras typically a symbol of the alt-right anyway?

[autism intensifies]

>private property
>capital accumulation
>private ownership of the mop
>>Socialism
Pick one

Yeah since Mao got into power.

>alt-right
trust a leftist to believe in fairy tales

Seek treatment for your aphasia

Oh, wait, they're not funding your hospitals anymore, serf

same as here. unemployment is "down" but actually full time employment figures are down and zero hour contracts and self employment are up

Not really. Besides most people in the spectrum are socialists.

youtube.com/user/farshnuke

Wait so raising the minimum wage until it tripled that of my country didn't create jobs? hhmmmm how could it be

>autism cuck mudslime cuck cuck cuck
stop derailing the thread you annoying turk.

>it's only """real""" socialism until it collapses

Probably the bankers.

or whatever you want to call traditionalist anime fans who are scared of modern architecture and talk about chad and stacy etc.

Jason is that you? Or are you one of those super autistic maoist third wordism weirdos?

nice anime sword

Not until you 5 lefty/pol/ neckbeards stop raiding and spreading your autism on Cred Forums.

>traditionalist
>anime fans

>modern architecture
wew

Are you trying to say that private property,capital accumulation and private ownership of the MOP are socialist? Do you even know what socialism is? Fucking hell man

What has the minimum wage to do with rising poverty?

Why is there always such an over representation of brit neets in these threads?

M8 Jason is a leaf but I am a third worldist not autistic though

hehe triggered you :^)

Is it really privately owned if the state tells you exactly how to run it? :^)
You've never been to China, have you?

this is the first lefty thread i've seen on here desu, i don't come here very often.

Most NEETs genetic failures and in general people who were bullied for being ugly short or had trouble to fit in with society are attracted by socialism.

Plenty of trannies faggots and other sexual deviants too

WWII was socialists against communists.
Capitalists kicked the bucket of socialists in the end doing the favor to communists.

>but I am a third worldist

Are you a real British person or a shitskin? I can't imagine how a White person would be attracted to that crigne fest. Did you fall for the noble savage meme?

It is the Slavers.
Do you think they magically vanished from the face of earth?

cool anecdote m8

>Artificially manipulates the market value of work
>Raises prices
>Destroys employment
Literally slows the economy down in every way

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_capitalism

The definition of socialism is
a theory or system of social organization that advocates the vesting of the ownership and control of the means of production and distribution, of capital, land, etc., in the community as a whole.

Does that sound like Venezuela to you?

This thread made me puke in my mouth

I'm a "real British person" yes.

That's not what's been happening, at least in Geemany

Our unemployment has been dropping for months in a row and we can't even reach the inflation target set.

All of this has little to do with the insignificant minimum wage, which affects only wages at the very bottom

No it's pretty well established that the left wing is insecure, wretched and delusional.

johnchambersslu.weebly.com/uploads/2/4/8/5/24852857/schlenkeretal_jrp_2012.pdf
gsb.stanford.edu/sites/gsb/files/publication-pdf/Belmi Neale Mirror Mirror OBHDP.pdf
journalism.org/2014/10/21/political-polarization-media-habits/
plosone.org/article/fetchObject.action?uri=info:doi/10.1371/journal.pone.0050092&representation=PDF

Yet Venezuela was the shining beacon of socialist success, before it collapsed. Funny how that works eh? :^)

Socialism is nothing more than a transition phase to communism and this transition goes trough anarchy because it involves taking personal freedoms and this is a violent process.

cus britain is becoming communist

>brexit won
>corbyn about to win

the british revolution is soon comrades

The definition of socialism is
a theory or system of social organization that advocates the vesting of the ownership and control of the means of production and distribution, of capital, land, etc., in the community as a whole.

Does that sound like Venezuela to you?

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>corbyn about to win
topkek

Certainly sounds a lot like current Venezuela, government "nationalising" everything, everyone equally starving whilst the party feasts. :^)

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So this is why Europe is in debt as deeply as it is and our economies are shit-tier?

Clueless lunatic Carl Marx and his followers.
Feels oddly familiar from the past.

Venezuela nationalised hundreds of private enterprises. Oil production the mainstay of the economy accounting for 95% of exports is state controlled. Venezuela is not technically socialist if you use the traditional definition but it's shows the fundamental flaws of state ownership and central planning. No country will ever be socialist because everyone will be dead by the time (like in the Soviet Union before (((Lenin))) was forced to adopt the NEP)

Gary Johnson has solutions. youtu.be/m2o2sT8QZMs

So you're telling me 1.543 euros per month is the very bottom? Around 40% od spanish workers earn less that that
Also of course minimum wage alone doesn't destroy one countries' economy, socialist measures as a whole do.
Te more liberal the market, the more prosperous the country.

But that's because tour wages are shit-tier. 1.500€ isn't much in Germany, I earned 1.700 as a student

The most prosperous countries have a hybrid system

You should be shot for putting nazi Germany under the far right. They were national socialists,
S o c i a l i s t s.

Got it?

.

This

Our economy is shit indeed, then why do you defend similar measures measures to those that got us into this mess in the first place?

you commies are so dumb

youtu.be/pzBml56g6Eg