Young men dropping out of society

Now, what's the next step in your master plan?

>Lads! Britain needs you to do your duty and get flirting
archive.is/tX8BY

>The Idle Army: America’s Unworking Men - Millions of young males have left the workforce and civic life
archive.is/zYczS

>There is a shortage of educated men - husband hunters beware!
archive.is/NGVUG

>The Lost Boys – young men opt for virtual life of pornography and gaming
archive.is/eE7Lg

>The Free-Time Paradox in America
theatlantic.com/business/archive/2016/09/the-free-time-paradox-in-america/499826/

>Finland: bleak picture of the country comparisons: every five young men outside the education and labor - "Really worrying result" [Finnish]
archive.is/xZvs9

>Finland's birth rate drops drastically - why decision-makers do not wake up to the seriousness of the problem? [Finnish]
archive.is/Rlpti

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(en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_B._Calhoun#Mouse_experiments)

In July 1968 four pairs of mice were introduced into the habitat. There was no shortage of food or water or nesting material. There were no predators.

The last surviving birth was on day 600, bringing the total population to a mere 2200 mice... This period between day 315 and day 600 saw a breakdown in social structure and in normal social behavior. Among the aberrations in behavior were the following: expulsion of young before weaning was complete, wounding of young, increase in homosexual behavior, inability of dominant males to maintain the defense of their territory and females, aggressive behavior of females, passivity of non-dominant males with increased attacks on each other which were not defended against. After day 600, the social breakdown continued and the population declined toward extinction. Their male counterparts withdrew completely, never engaging in courtship or fighting. They ate, drank, slept, and groomed themselves – all solitary pursuits. Sleek, healthy coats and an absence of scars characterized these males. They were dubbed "the beautiful ones." Breeding never resumed and behavior patterns were permanently changed.

...when all available space is taken and all social roles filled, competition and the stresses experienced by the individuals will result in a total breakdown in complex social behaviors, ultimately resulting in the demise of the population.

Calhoun saw the fate of the population of mice as a metaphor for the potential fate of man. He characterized the social breakdown as a "second death,” with reference to the “second death” mentioned in the Biblical book of Revelation 2:11. His study has been cited by writers such as Bill Perkins as a warning of the dangers of the living in an "increasingly crowded and impersonal world."

>>Lads! Britain needs you to do your duty and get flirting

Why? Can't it just import more immigrants? That's been their plan so far, why are they now changing their mind?

Also
>That article
>Written by a woman
>Bashes men in the very first sentence

I have a giant dog, a jeep, and no one to bother me. I live next to the largest expanse of forested wilderness in the lower 48. Why in hell would I want some entitled harpy controlling my life, or go to work for some corporation that actively hates me?

>"In 2015, 22 percent of lower-skilled men [those without a college degree] aged 21 to 30 had not worked at all during the prior twelve months,” he said.

>"Think about that for a second,” he went on. Twentysomething male high-school grads used to be the most dependable working cohort in America. Today one in five are now essentially idle. The employment rate of this group has fallen 10 percentage points just this century, and it has triggered a cultural, economic, and social decline. "These younger, lower-skilled men are now less likely to work, less likely to marry, and more likely to live with parents or close relatives,” he said.

>So, what are are these young, non-working men doing with their time? Three quarters of their additional leisure time is spent with video games, Hurst’s research has shown. And these young men are happy—or, at least, they self-report higher satisfaction than this age group used to, even when its employment rate was 10 percentage points higher.

>these young men have disconnected from both the labor market and the dating pool. They are on track to grow up without spouses, families, or a work history. They may grow up to be rudderless middle-aged men, hovering around the poverty line, trapped in the narcotic undertow of cheap entertainment while the labor market fails to present them with adequate working opportunities.

This is essential.

The next step is simple: sit back and wait. White men can come back in and rebuild everything after the shitskins destroy it all and themselves. Why prop up a failing system?

wow another retarded repost of a thread we had two days ago! so epic guys XD

If you retards drop out of society, just kill yourself lmfao. pathetic cucks aren't needed in society.

Hurry up and open a womb farm or something and pump out all the necessary babies who can live in boarding school until they're 16.

t. beta wagecuck

You'll probably marry your high school crush after she's done riding the carousel. And you'll think you are a winner because she finally chose you. Sad.

le epic sad, cock carousel, wimminz memes

More buzzwords, kid? How about beta cuck reddit numale? Retard. You're pathetic; you're worth nothing. You "dropping out of society" means nothing; you're waste to be discarded. Kill yourself.

Let's be honest here. Statistically who is going to end up with a shittier life? Mr Alpha Traditionalist who gets married, or Mr Finnish dropout?

Well seeing as the married guy has 50% chance of having his life ruined and Mr Finland has...0% chance I would bet on the former.

Worth is subjective

fuckin hell

Depends on what set of statistics we use, what variables we account for. If you want to meme it up, let's play by the epic 50% of all menz in da us is gonna get divorced LOL. If you want to play by real world stats, you can always trust yourself to not dick down a banshee of a woman. Well, I can trust myself. You idiotic poltards can be trusted to fuck whatever has a hole lmfao. faggot nigger lover retards. get bent. Hope you "drop out of society" into the ocean, because you're fucking worthless.

inb4 roastie and other /r9k/ tier memes.

Worth is not subjective. Absolute terms are used in worth. What you bring to the table directly relates to how much you earn.

Modern western society has been set up to expect men to put fourth as much effort and work has he did 50 years ago but with none of the respect, prestige, money, security, or security he had 50 years ago. Instead he is demonized for simply being a man, and constantly told that he is not good enough.

Of course we're not interested in playing your game. There is almost no possible way you can win. I'm more likely to win the lottery jackpot three weeks in a row than be able to generate traditional success.

Said security twice because derp. Disregard second.

>he thinks there are unicorns
>he thinks he is so fucking alpha that he can find one of those unicorns and live happily ever after

+18

>what you bring to the table blah blah blah

I mean we're all basically nothing on a cosmic scale so who cares. Life is just a space of time between birth and death so spend it how you want

Well the problem is, once you've signed that contract then it's up to her not you.

We won't work for women's wages. If they want to take all the new low paying jobs to play sex in the city, let them.

keep on meming, autists. you'll get killed one day and I will be laughing so hard. stay cucked.

We all will die someday. You'll die twice: the day you get married and the day your body says "enough".

>Cred Forums in favor of eugenics to improve the genes of humanity
>Cred Forums doesn't want women to fuck alphas and ensure their kids have good genes

Well, which is it?

>Cred Forums is one person

Fuck, leaf, get your shit together.

die and let the libs have fun with muslim population

So you're against stuff like immunization and corrective surgery?

>not lifting weights
>not becoming highly skilled
>not being STEM mustard race
>playing video games
>not reading

NEETs are less valuable than an illegal immigrant. You are equivalent to Tyrone rapping about his EBT card. Docile, stupid, and pathetic. When you become a bitter middle-aged loser with no skills and no capital, you'll have no one to blame but yourself.

kek I didn't think mgtow would be a significant danger for decades. It's only been a few years and already the matriarchy is crumbling.

Can I have a STEMeme Degree and still play games?

>implying i won't kill myself before middle-age

Yeah, but don't tell anyone.

Man, these articles make me so happy.
Crashing this feminized society with no survivors

MGTOW is real and many many men are MGTOW without even realizing it. Feminists, sluts, traditionalists, and western society are pissing their pants in fear and going balls to the wall with the anti-male shaming tactics now that women are starting to feel the heat. Cred Forums is cucked, Cred Forums worships women, they don't want women to feel the consequences of their actions.

Western society has hated men for far too long, now the chickens have come home to roost.

MGTOW :)

We're seeing more men opt out because western women are insufferable cunts who have destroyed western culture by replacing men with the state and making interactions with women at best extremely dangerous.

Feminism has created a space where in women attempt to be men and become less feminine, the sleep about like whores because they think it's empowering, cake on makeup and tattoos. At the same time men are vilified for having a sexual interest in women, yes means yes laws, false rape accusations, "don't rape people" posters and campaigns and mandatory "don't be a rapist" classes.

Then women are all like "where have the good men gone?", when men that they can get sexual release from porn, can get entertainment online which is the last safe male space.

I for one embrace the decline, it can't come fast enough.

But if you guys aren't going to inhale helium in 5-20 years like me, you should read this:

>They are on track to grow up without spouses, families, or a work history. They may grow up to be rudderless middle-aged men, hovering around the poverty line, trapped in the narcotic undertow of cheap entertainment while the labor market fails to present them with adequate working opportunities

what's so bad about this

destroying society while playing games and generally being /comfy/ doesn't sound like a bad deal for me

I don't know what the future holds, but I haven't changed in a while. I refuse to be a slave to women and modern western society, so I'll cross future bridges when I come to them, whatever they may be. But they definitely won't involved marriage or kids.

I see that a lot, that these men are general failures in life and they're the only ones dropping out, an attempt to causally link the 2 things.

That's not true, I'm a MGTOW in my early 30's I'm an IT Director already I have a great career, loads of money, I don't want for anything I have enough to have expensive gaming hobbies and drink fine whisky and eat out every night, without a family to have to prop up life is really cheap, I just spend all my money on technology and gaming. I never have to cook for myself I don't even have to do chores I just spend all my money on making my life better and easier all the while. I could comfortably live on half my wage I only continue to work full time because I want to save and pay off a house and retire early.

The idea that I'd willingly invite a woman to disrupt that lifestyle is absolutely hysterical at best.

I was probably out of the game later in life though, a lot of the younger men are entering this harsh reality at a young age and it just makes more sense to them to opt out completely. I wouldn't suggest being a NEET quite honestly but if you find happiness doing that then more power to you, all these women now earning money can now share the taxes to support these men.

And as the reports say, men's happiness is unchanged, we can play games all day and drink beer and be just as content than if we work and support a family. Where as womens happiness has declined steadily basically since WW2, they're more miserable than they've ever been.

They deserve it.

>The idea that I'd willingly invite a woman to disrupt that lifestyle is absolutely hysterical at best.

This. Wanting a long-term relationship with a female is a spook. Why the fuck would you trade your efficiency for a literal leech who you're actively deluding yourself that you love? Because everyone around you has one and you'd get socially excommunicated for not having a girlfriend for too long? Fuck that lmao

Search for "the paradox of female happiness"

There's a lot of work done measuring the amount of freedom women have got since womens suffrage and about how they now have more options than ever, yet their reported happiness has gone down steadily since the 1940's while mens has remained stable.

There's simply no way to approach this topic other than to admit up front that if women get more agency and more control over their life and they get less happy, that they simply do not know what is good for them or for society.

Now when I look back at the behaviour of men in our past, when they stopped women from having a voice in things like politics around the dining table. I start to realize that they really had got something right and they simply wouldn't tolerate women interfering with what they'd collectively built.

The catch 22 here is that with women and children off the table, men get to not give a fuck about the future, because we're not invested in it, we have no prospects for children and so why leave the world a better place than which you found it.

Just selfishly look out for yourself, indulge all your desires.

>literal leeches
but women earn more than men now. You can get yourself a stressed out business women and leech FROM her now

>Just selfishly look out for yourself, indulge all your desires.
Well it's too late for me now. I have already proposed to my gf :3

you forgot hookers

here's another for your list OP (from NPR) archive.is/3BcVK

Isn't MGTOW destroying Japan.

As in, the government over there consider it an existential threat?

Why aren't more governments taking this threat seriously?

>Why aren't more governments taking this threat seriously?

Because no western government cares about its people and their solution is to just import shitskins

There's nothing bad with this.

NEETdom is the ultimate lifestyle.

>implying thats a bad thing

MGTOW is a symptom not the cause

Female NEET here, it's okay, we understand that we aren't worth the effort anymore, we accept the future and how it is, I just wish things didn't turn out the way it did. Have fun playing your minecraft, pokemon, overwatch, and leauge, while the only good red pilled white women give up on trying to find you.

I have a beautiful blonde aryan GF of 5 years that hate niggers and immigrants.

If I lived in the states and my only choice would be to go for a fat feminist brunette then I would definitely understand the MGTOW-movement better.

Whatever makes you happy!

Good genes for woman =/= good genes for society. Society's built on the contract that we work together to increase everyone's odds of survival and reproduction, but as far as evolution goes living 100 years in society safely without reproducing and living 20 years before dying without reproducing are the same. So when "betas" aren't benefiting from society since they can't reproduce they withdraw like this or even lash out through things like school shootings. That's why women's sexuality isn't compatible with society, if you have 80% of men getting no or barely any female attention they're going to be apathetic toward or hostile to society and it's going to fall apart through inaction or eventually destruction.

>women
>red pilled

Women don't have to look for anyone though.

It's just peer pressure and social norms that keep people on reproducing, pressure from family to produce kids and peers to get a g/f.

This is why MGTOW men are so fundamentally important, because we discuss these different social aspects and deconstruct them and generally conclude that this kind of male shaming behaviour is to get men to opt into systems that are not good deals for them. Suddenly when you red pill people like this they stop worrying about social norms and peer pressure, they learn that it's OK to not take deals that are bad for you, you don't owe anyone anything.

Men still earn more as a group largely due to our interest in more STEM like fields and as society becomes socially more free, women tend towards pink collar jobs more which is what keeps their wages down.

Whats the divorce rate in your country? You've just rolled the dice, I hope your divorce doesn't completely ruin you. Good luck fellow user.

It's not really MGTOW in the same way, they typically don't identity as MGTOW, but they're opting out all the same. Sick of working themselves to near death only to bring home the paycheque, give it to the wife and then she issues an allowance. Modern Japanese men can see their fathers were cucks in that system.

>Now, what's the next step in your master plan?

Keep living till I die.

Hope you weren't expecting a miracle.

people don't realise this is the perfect recipe for social unrest and violence, it's the calm before the storm

Trust me, you can only fuck so many hookers until you go crazy. I want someone to cook and clean for me, have some wild sex, and after that I hold her in arms and we fall a sleep.

the eternal Marxist, destroyer of nations

>look bored with drink in hand, not staring at phone
>receive at least a dozen potential suitors per hour

Hold on until you reach 40. This is my plan and i'm 31 now.

>Can't pick one because women's attraction is comparative rather than objective and they can't decide which is "best"

> 50% of people lose at game X
> But it won't happen to me I have a system

top kek

This is a very good explanation, but Cred Forums is exactly the same as feminists in the sense that this topic seems to trigger them and make them go into full "defend women and hate men" mode.

I really wish someone could go back in time and kill Marx.

Germans have been ruining everything since the dawn of time.

Problem is, I am such a huge literal cuck.

Whenever I date a girl she is not open to fucking thick muslim men / black men.

Makes me sad really, they should know their place and take bull dick.

White people are utterly worthless, but watching my partner get fucked by a superior being is such a rush.

We do now, now that we are flooded with mexicans, blacks and shitskins, its almost impossible to find a traditional white man who isnt a fugly manlet.

I had very little opportunities growing up to do that. I basically got fucked over by society and genetics every step of the way.

still, it seems like a nice problem to have

"ugh, someone's validating my sexual desirability AGAIN? that's like, the 50th warm smile I've received today"

Tits or gtfo. Oh wait female NEET, never mind no one wants to see that.

Who are you kidding?

I've been saying we're overpopulated for years.

People are finally starting to realize that carrying capacity isn't just limited to food and water; it has economic and social elements as well.

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Thick Muslims? kek. South Asians and sand niggers have tiny dicks, why do you think they are pissed off all the time?

Shut the fuck up you dried up whore. It's your kind that brought this upon themselves. Why don't you get a bunch of cats and sleep with them.

>Everyone is angry and blames you for their problems.
>You decide to leave and chill.
>People now angrier and blames you for leaving.

What can we do?

Working is shit

Everyone should get jobs where they get paid to do what they like doing

Anyone who doesn't have a hobby or passion just deserves to get shot

This is a good thing.

It means that men who are actually educated and putting effort into achieving lucrative careers have a larger pool of dates.

Thank you, NEETs.

Mate just watch your partner get fucked by 4+ Muslim men and sit in the corner masturbating, it's the best shit ever, you won't even care about dick size as she is getting rammed in every hole at the same time.

We seriously need WW 3 or a plague or something destructive like that ASAP

You're a lying cunt. There are still plenty of Chads out there who would fuck you. You're simply wrong. But you are right about how women aren't worth it and most of us have given up. Cred Forums doesn't want to accept this, but it's the truth.

The next step is to track you down and kill you so you stop making these shit fucking threads everyday, faggot.

No plague. Plagues don't have borders. Vomiting up blood and shivering to death ain't my cup of tea.
I'd rather be vaporize by a nuke from pissed of Koreans/muslims than anything else.
I say we just start firing nukes in all directions and see what happens.

British women are disgusting.

It may not be MGTOW proper in Japan, but men are opting out. And men are opting out all over the world, in all economic classes.

This is what I'm saying about government's not taking action. Surplus men are dangerous for a society. Governments have an existential threat to their survival, festering and GROWING within them. And they, worse than doing nothing to address the problems facing men, they are piling on.

Importing cheap labor (legally through H1B visas and illegally with unenforced laws), giving college spots to females at the expense of males, and funding through Title IX, and kicking them out of college with false rape reports. The list goes on. I'm sure it is just as bad in the rest of the world, if not worse.

Are the rioting googles MGTOWs? Are the popping mudslimes MGTOWs? Are STEM majors that are keeping a low profile, not getting married, and saving for an early retirement MGTOWs?

Something BIG is going on, worldwide. The mainstream and elites are not seeing it.

We see it, and it is frightening.

Problem is women didn't lower their astronomical standards in response to this. They actually raised them.

>What can we do?
Take care of yourself first and foremost, career, money, home, security, then get a comfy seat to watch the rest of the world burn.

> All that female butthurt
> all these " true men " acting butthurt
> mfw

>Now, what's the next step in your master plan?
Crashing this society, no survivors

42 years old and MGTOW master race.

Why? The people in power won't fight and woman won't die in the war so the system won't actually change, you're just temporarily solving the problem.

The real issue is that politicians pander to women since they can be reliably counted on to vote as a group on gender based issues rather than as individuals like men will, which increasingly stacks the odds in favor of women and thus disincentives marriage even more. Just make each women's vote count for 3/5 so politicians are less incentivized to pander to them and I bet you'd see changes in the system.

women do not allow men to leech off of them

Canadian MGTOW are the most elite division of MGTOW there is.

Back to red.dit faggot.

working jobs you hate for cunts who hate you to get fucked over by a government that hates you so you can get married to a women that hates you divorces you and takes half of your life with her.

No thanks i'll do what i please.

Go to bed, Jos. Your gf is average at best.

I invite you to take the actual redpill.

>22 years old
>college degree
>no debts
>$5000+ in savings
>60k/yr after tax
>spend it on hobbies
Why would I fuck it all up on a non-virgin woman?

Boomers are getting super fucking nervous now that they realize there won't be enough tax money to pay for all their Social Security gibsmedats.
What goes around comes around, fags. Payback is a bitch.

Yes we are, the key to becoming even more elite is leaving this socialist shithole.

Save capital, and move abroad. I'm planning on doing the whole digital nomad lifestyle in SEA/SA once I finish saving up about 50k USD. Il have enough to gamble on a business and even if it fails il have a very long time to relax and enjoy the nice weather/scenery.

Fuck this frozen socialists wasteland.

i was a NEET for almost all of 30. then i got bored and decided to further my education with an online class- programming so i could learn to write games. i really liked the class but decided that a whole year of doing nothing was enough so i went back to work. i worked for three years- got promoted, got power, got a gf, got a nice place and i was miserable. my wages were shit, my gf was shit, and i was WAY happier sitting on my ass learning programming and not dealing with a woman's constant bullshit and leeching.

so i took half of 33 off too- but this time i did classes the whole time. now im learning hard science and statistics. im thinking of becoming an actuary or a data scientist.

i recently purchased an artificial vagina. it's better than my last three girlfriends. im happy, i have plenty of money when i do work, and im on my way to getting a great job in my late 30s or early 40s.

i don't think that men are the problem.

i will have no trouble finding a young wife when i am ready. i would have been ready a lot sooner if i made more money and women were less demanding and less interfering.

women don't want someone with potential. woman don't want someone who takes risks. women want a man who has already succeeded and who has already taken all the risks before they came along.

im almost at the point of giving up on american girls. they just aren't worth the trouble. the world is a big place with lots of wonderful beautiful woman- they just don't bring them up that way here.

youtube.com/watch?v=o3q2mXDSqRU
Who gives a shit?

> transfer to Christian university
> qt grill in my class
> modest, quiet, shy, always praying in the chapel/reading her Bible
> literally Christ-chan
> she introduces herself
> shes part of the welcoming committee to the school
> end up talking for a while
> She doesn't go to parties, is focused on her studies, but wants to be a stay at home mom, exercises regularly, eats healthy, no tattoos, no drugs,
> Holy shit am I talking to a real life unicorn
> Invites me to study with her in the library
> Mfw when I'm too scared of women to say anything except talk about homework

Feels bad mein.

>mfw have a nearly six figure job in Finland (really rare) in a very respect field and still haven't had a GF since i turned 18.

What are you an autist.

Just ask her if she wants to grab a coffee on x day ( make sure it's no longer than 1-2 days away ). You'll know where you stand.

Society doesn't want me, I don't want it!

>who isn't a fugly manlet

There's your problem right there. What makes you think you desever anything more?

You are worthless, successful men have better options than the average slag like you.

Settle for something on your level or fuck off.

>falling for the pure Christian girl meme
They're sluts like atheists but better at hiding it.

t. went to private christian school and university

good christian girls don't drink coffee or go out in public with strange men without a chaperone

My life was always heading towards this...had trouble paying attention in school, ADHD meds at 14 which fucked me up. No point to anything.

This guy is right.

if we were paid twice as much to work there would be no unemployment

but instead we blame the victim

i think this is the only real solution

I know the vast majority of that info already, women vote left/socialist, they get the government to take over the role of provider/protector which diminishes mens role in society. Suddenly the state can rob fathers and husbands of their money and children to hand it to women. State spending shoots up, abuse of men shoots up, single motherhood shoots up.

Canada is pretty bad I agree, most of the social activism is happening there to back men and mens rights etc, because that's where they are the most fucked by the govt.

Sure, men are definitely opting out in Japan, it's way more advanced in their collapse than MGTOW is in the west, but there are subtle differences between the herbivore men and MGTOW, mostly the same causes though, their salary man lifestyle is utterly brutal and again they realised that to be happy and to live on your own costs fuck all and that families are shit, hard work and expensive.

What men have that means we come out on top and continue to come out on top, is that we can lead a content life with buddies, beer, hobbies and entertainment. Men can fix cars or play games or go hunting and enjoy those things for what they are. Women are social creatures and status is everything and without men their little psycho worlds of mental gymnastics falls apart.

Which is why their happiness has declined with the collapse of western society where as mens has not.

>woman
>red pilled

Have you heard the story about the scorpion and the frog?

Hilariously, I seriously think chaperoned dates will make a comeback.

Not to protect the girl, but to protect the guy.

> How many miles of dick have you taken?
is what keeps running through my head whenever i see her (or any one of the hundreds of girls at this school).

First day here, at the first event I went to, the girls were talking about hooking up with guys. Feels real bad man.

You're going to die too retard. That's how this life shit works.

I understand your pain. Realize that western culture is truly degenerate, and I mean truly, absolutely, completely degenerate. Swallow that redpill, you need to for your own sanity.

>> How many miles of dick have you taken?
is what keeps running through my head whenever i see her (or any one of the hundreds of girls at this school).
>>feels really bad man
you can always embrace Islam user.

Rebuild more societies for minorities?

no thx.

>lower-skilled men
>[those without a college degree]

I guess going to college gives you skills now

we could take a page from the old rulebook and just built a better society somewhere else

if hillary gets elected there's no way im staying in this country

Knock it off with the mouse utopia comparisons!
Population size and population density are not the cause.
Historically far east asia is the evidence that large population sizes and densities among human animal can be maintained.
We are seeing sick societies from which men are withdrawing from these days in lot smaller populations.
Problem IMHO comes with destruction of foundation of society with no fault divorce, misandry of social policies and misguided celebration of promiscuity as empowerment by feminism-cult (aided by access to birth control).

If NEETism is so great why do you have to bring it up all the time?

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it's not exactly a choice senpai

I've gone full wizard so the feminist have die out once their eggs have fell out and their menopause destroys them. Oh don't worry about me I'm just fine unlike the dying out feminazis.
> believe

these are bait threads that's why
still good bait though since I partake in them regularly

the subject is interesting

>We see it, and it is frightening

Frighteningly exciting.

>tfw you realize you will become obsolete

Oh, I have, but now I'm struggling with what to do with the red pill. Join a cult? Kill somebody? Just keep going about my life? Live it up as a MGTOW? Cred Forums is long on diagnoses and short on solutions.

> inb4 GTKRWN

how about trying to find a thing you enjoy and help changing society

There is no one right path. " Swallowing the Red Pill " is nothing more than accepting the world as it is, free of bias and emotion.

> join a cult
> kill somebody

Joining an insane quasi religious group/lashing out at random people is just an emotional response to your anger. So I wouldn't advise that.

> Just keep going about my life

What are your goals in life? What do you want? What is going to get you there fastest and with the least risk?

> Live it up as a MGTOW

If you want to sure, just don't tell people in public you're MGTOW or you'll draw contempt.

Thay first writer needs to die

only 2 scenarios with varying degrees of grey scale:

UBI

or

left to our own devices while automation services the top 2% of IQ people, and any revolt is shut down immedietly by militirized AI the likes of which any standing militia would have no chance against.

DREDD, children of men, Elysium, logans run, Wall-E, these are accurate depictions of the future.

not star trek.

Am I a NEET if I'm in a course but it's a part-time online course that only occupies me about 12 hours a week?

>Natural selection in action. begone ginger demon!

Rational self interest is what makes the most sense. Build something of your own, a career, a life, a home, fill it with things that make you happy and bring you joy, hobbies, traveling, and then protect what you have, save and invest, diversify.

Most of all do not fall for the love/white picket fence/2.5 children meme, don't let women or government near what you've built because they'll take it from you faster than you can blink.

Only question is whether mice are smarter than niggers or not.

So far it appears the mice are so. I wish the niggers would stop breeding.

The future is going to be a literal hell on earth filled with minorities (majorities) and government robot killing machines policing the streets. Why would you ever want to have a child and subject them to that?

I'd say may his soul rest in peace, but...

This happened to me once.
Later i found out about her.... "Wild past".

Have we started the fire?

holy kek

I've been thinking about that for awhile leafbro. I was talking with my psychologist earlier this week, and we realised that I haven't allowed myself to desire anything, because I had linked desiring things/wanting things with disappointment and suffering.

So at this point, I don't even really feel that I know HOW to want things. Whenever I try to imagine what it is I really, really want, I get... nothing, so I've been working on how to want things, and to allow myself to hope for/desire things.

It's been tough though. When I ask myself "what do I want", my first thought is that wanting things is overrated, and to ask: "Why I should want to do/have things in the first place?"

It sounds very zen, but in reality, it just means I have to fight myself to do anything.

> Most of all do not fall for the love/white picket fence/2.5 children meme, don't let women or government near what you've built because they'll take it from you faster than you can blink.


I agree completely. It's nice to see that there are men in every country of the world that are still sensible. I have no cultural ties to Canada, so I have no problem abandoning this socialist shithole.

South East Asia/South America is calling men like us. Freedom abounds with smaller government in many countries located there.

> 20 acre ranch east of the River Plate
> as self sufficient as realistically possible
> moderately armed
> at least 1 hour from any towns/cities

That is the dream

inb4 Latin American intellectual meme

>all the trash drop out of the race
>all the competition eat itself out of the race
>only qt men with confidence left
>women obesity rate is like 2-3x men's
>more high-tier men than high-tier women left

How is this a bad thing?

Feels good being a 9/10 female. I'm gonna go bag Chad now. Sucks to be you perma-virgins I guess.

because it sounds fucking awesome

Yes, brother. The fire rises.

nigga you need to work on your bait

A 9/10 female literally doesn't have a second of time for Cred Forums.

I get that response every time, and the only funny thing is I'm legitimate. You know it in the back of your mind to be true.

God damn life is good.

Do you like Trump at least?

where do you live what state

>do your duty and get flirting

Fuck you, how about they flirt with me. We're supposed to have gender equality, are we not?

why rate yourself on a scale though
why degrade you like that


also why have sex in the middle of a work day
something doesn't add up, I'm sorry

Dropping out? No, scheming to make bank, grab market share, undercut jews to their ruin.

>the elites don't see it
top kek, do you think a man that has no interest in his surroundings is going to ever resist a change/control and not just adapt?
You're deluding yourself if you think majority of 'MGTOW' aren't fat NEETs that sit on their asses and mass-consume different media.

This system only fails when men stop doing essential backbone jobs (like mining, building etc.) whih will never truly happen because of automatization as well as them just increasing monetary rewards. This leads to pacified masses that are content with scraps from the table while 10 different people own 90% of all media studios and other big corps.

Alternatively the division of masses that is actively taking place right now will take over and we will be eternally struck fighting each other because one group is oppressive, the other is racist and third is lazy etc. while fully ignoring the actual privileged oppressors who dictate the rhythm of the class/race/gender-wars.

It really is a cointoss between those two things right now with the apathy of men being the long-term plan and the splintering of masses short-term.

>this
All I need is a good job and my bros and I'm good.

> (((psychologist))) trying to knock you out of Nirvana

But seriously. Logically there is no point to struggle hard to support a woman/kids that may/may not be yours. So struggle a lot less just to support yourself.

You can't gain the drive to achieve something for yourself overnight but I suggest taking steps to get there. Try taking a trip somewhere and seeing some of the outside world.

Thailand is a great place because it has both the " culture shock " aspect of foreign nations and a lot of the amenities of the West ( without the degenerate culture ). Krabi is a great place to escape too, have amazing nature, live a minimalist but still very comfy life ( and it isn't on the tourist trail ).

Just do something bro. Don't give up.

>/pol9k/ general

Stop with the self pity. Find solutions and change things.

>implying I would be here otherwise

MAGA

It's not degrading, it's for convenience. Men rate themselves too.
>sex
???

Im older now, women no longer look at me. I am a man without purpose

"Tragic" Mason Scott Cox sounds like a fucking pro wrestler.

Fusion welder here. Work 12 hours a day, 6 days a week. Dumped pussy for money. Didn't take me long to figure out which is more loyal.

>when all available space is taken and all social roles filled competition and the stresses experienced by the individuals will result in a total breakdown in complex social behaviors, ultimately resulting in the demise of the population.

Population density was not the cause of the problems, it was a symptom.

The problem was due to the place being a utopia with no solvable problems to struggle against, no outward roles for them to take on. It resonates with us not because we are in an overpopulated world but because we are in a utopian world where struggle and pain is less and less valued.

>And as the reports say, men's happiness is unchanged
>Where as womens happiness has declined steadily basically since WW2, they're more miserable than they've ever been.
I would like to see some information about this. I'm genuinely interested

>Krabi

Are there snakes in Krabi?

Sexbots will save us.

>money
>loyal

good goy. keep turning that wheel :)

In the opening post.

RIGHT-WINGERS GET OUT OF THE GOVERNMENT REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

How old? Even in your 40s there is still hope mane

why do you even care about women?
most (if not all) of them are google loving trash

you shouldn't see your own value and self-worth in the validation of a cunt
want to fuck? get a prostitute
women became useless

Yeah, but snakes aren't as dangerous as they are made out to be. Just don't approach/antagonize them and they won't bother you either.

Then it's time to take a page out of Calhoun's Mouse Utopia and put on a little slick style this fall and winter.

Because Earth is still in the Boom Phase, and because humans have sick fucking ways to reduce their own population (not yet the courage to use them,) doing a little "prettying up" might just attract a mate or 10.

Taking a page out of the Marriage = One man and One woman, just might fix a bunch of the problems.

The Christians got that one very right.

Human default is polygamy with the alpha males breeding the vast majority of the time. Men below a score of 8 will not be breeding very often in alpha selecting society.

Barbaric attacks for food and fun will eventually come back.

We live in a world were even the 'world's sexiest men' like Tom Cruise, Johnny Depp and Brad Pitt are even getting KEKED and JUST'D and they seriously wonder why everyone else who is not a multi-millionaire is checking out.

I'm pretty forward, honestly it's so easy now. 80% of the girls that I actually speak to after I get their number tell me that I'm the only guy that has approached them so confidently in years. I'm not being creepy about it either, just going over and starting conversations with groups of girls and getting my mates involved.

I usually get 3-4 numbers per night. Last week I got 5, two of them were out together, I asked for the number of one of them and she gave it to me. The other one approached me later and I got her number then. They both have boyfriends but they're still messaging me.

The girls are out there lads. Just work on your confidence. I know it's easier said than done, though

I don't get this? How is this even viable? How do these men pay for their entertainment or food. Surely there relatives can be fully supporting their lifestyle

Have a (you) friend0, I appreciate it.

Right now I'm trying lots of different things, which in one way is incredibly demoralizing, (not much to put on the resume) and on the other hand, really liberating. I've taken dance classes, boxing classes, Hebrew classes (kek), and been reading a ton/listening to audio book about success, philosophy, goal setting, values, becoming a more positive person, better communicator etc. etc.

I'm struggling to really stick with things though. I'll try something for a bit, plateau a bit, and then move on to something else, and I know I'll never achieve mastery in anything that way. I suppose part of my fear is that I'll dedicate a bunch of time to something, and then realize that I hate it, and all that time will have gone to waste. Any thoughts?

>not in education, employment or training

I don't know how it works in USA but I'm leeching off the tax payer.

I'm always late for these threads. Glad I got in here before the 200 reply mark.

Look, I'm a white guy. I'm in my very early 20s and I really can't imagine a reason why anyone would seriously want to actively participate in modern society, let alone fight and sacrifice for it.


Women are a complete fucking joke, marriage is dead, whites are dying off, all if Western civilization may be collapsing in front of our very eyes.

There isn't anything here. We were born after the height of civilization. Making a family is a foolish idea as the world is lost the the ceaseless hordes of niggers, shit skins, and Asians.

Women's standards are absolutely ridiculous and I'd say 85% of all women are mentally ill undateable gargabe.

It's just too hard. I hate to say it, but all I have is video games and anime. That's all. I just want to be a hermit and live away from the insane cancer that is our world.

Try to write like a female next time you want to bait

What's the purpose of this whole post? Of course the pussy is easy, it's never been easier, the problem is getting a commited pussy.

The only people complaining about not getting any women are actual fucking losers, and even then it should be a non issue because decent sextoys for men are actually a thing as well as booming porn industry that's starting to acknowledge >tfw no gf themed porn as well as extremely degenerate fetishes .

inb4 beautiful ones ;_;

>You can literally fit the entire American population into New Hampshire with everyone having enough space.

>You can fit the entire human population in New Zealand


Fuck off with this overpopulation meme.

Getting dates is easier than I thought it would be but the quality of the woman is always the issue.

The few I have dated that have actually been wife material had absurd standards. They immediately shut down the relationship if you have even one thing they don't like.

It's very hard to find good women and seemingly impossible to keep them.

I do this too. You're probably decent looking. I'm shortish and have pretty crap facial symmetry, so if this shit works for me, it'll work for anyone really.

The problem with being a NEET though is that you'll absolutely hate your life in your 30s. You'll realise you're not young anymore and you're not self-sufficient which is pretty much the true test of being a man rather than a boy.

1/3 of the United States population is on welfare.

but will you survive the pole shift tho

>good little wagecuck

The only true MGTOW are the ones that do it without realizing it. Do you really think that you're "going your own way" and being independent of women when you spend all of your time on forums talking about how you don't need no women?

And only 1/3 pays income tax.

fine with me, cya trash

>you'll absolutely hate your life in your 30s

I'd hate it anyway.

well, it is optional

now my boys what delights shall we fill our volumes of the mind with today
not perversions of the feet

> The girls are out there, just bee confident!

My issue isn't confidence. I'm asking why I should be bothered to even bother with girls in the first place.

Perhaps this would be a good time to remind people that women are not oppressed in western society if guys don't date or approach them. Just getting that out there. "Men these days" are not the problem, slut culture and western society elevating women at the expense of men is the problem.

Yes because overpopulation only occurs when the entire earth is overpopulated.

Did you even read what I wrote you god damned hue?

>doing things is too hard
>muh video games and anime
mgtow are the worst, justifying their fleshlight mlp pillows through any means

>elevating women
perversions of the feet indeed!

Another thing that the (((social engineers))) could try if they wanted to fix male/female relations is some basic how to talk to the opposite sex classes. The class material should be written by Alpha males who make videos about how to get women and then piece by piece show the class what they did right or wrong in a particular video.

Not that such a thing would be allowed in PC America.

The current method of raising children by the Television is a good way to teach them how to fight over petty issues and insult each other for fun.

Yes I did. And that' why I said overpopulation is a meme.

>slut culture
That would imply that women actually make an effort to meet all men, instead of just Chads.

Funnily enough, even Chads are getting fed up.

becase everything else is shit
after locking myself in my room and being high on meth everyday 24 hous for 3 years, everythings a joke. nothing or nobody will ever make me feel that good qnd i have reached a level or not giving a fuck i never thought possible

everything and everyone is worthless trash

those vids exist retard
what is PUA
dumb fuck

rsdtyler etc

Are you that new? This thread is posted daily at the least.

the basis of sexual interaction consists of males pressuring and manipulating females into doing what they want them to
never forget, rape is the highest compliment you could pay a woman
much more precious than shoes

It's true that women just want Chad and they become bitter children when they can't have him, then they demand that other men become Chad so women can be satisfied. But slut culture basically describes modern western society. Pro-female, hookup culture, drugs, alcohol, casual sex, porn, bad attitudes, no morals, on and on and on. Throw other bad things related to that scene in there and there you go.

I see no proof Chad is getting fed up, all I see is Chad not wanting to commit, and absolutely NOBODY criticizes him for it, because he's Chad. And Chad actually has "male privilege", we don't.

Give me three good reasons I should really care and fight for this society? Three good reasons and I will change my mind.

I'm working and getting a degree in cyber security, not like I'm jerking off 24/7. You can be productive and not date women or actively care about the world.

>The girls are out there lads. Just work on your confidence. I know it's easier said than done, though
Why though

the statement i am about to write is all true. no works of fiction or trolling. you niggerfaggots need to understand

35 years old.
live in momys basement
my only """friend""" is my dog, and i abuse it because i am angry, all the time
why am i angry
cant get a job let a lone a career
no money
education is a joke, its liberal indoctrination
my dick is the size of a gumdrop
overweight because i eat my troubles away like a fucking drug addict
sick and feel like death because fat
girlfriend is gone
i drive mothers car when she lets me
there is no way to better my self or fix this
i should lone wolf but i am a coward

do not go my way
man up and either fix your shit before its to late, or off your self before you are to much of a coward.

But why do men always have to submit to women? Modern men wouldn't go for that. Why don't we make videos for women on how they can become decent partners again?

The point was that many men are reasonably opting out and people notice it now.

Well fuck. So we need to reduce the population or increase our resources to exploit? Is it any coincidence we started going to shit once we stopped conquering the world?

Overpopulation is a meme. It has a specific meaning, and its meaning does not apply to our situation.

Overcrowding is the word you're looking for.

Why would I talk to many women when I only want one? Fucking disgusting honestly, enjoy your AIDS.

I started running advanced alpha male subliminal audio programming in my sleep and now everyone looks like degenerate retards who are afraid of their own shadow

that and I started listening to exclusively non-anglosphere music and hot dance tracks so romance idealization normalized

i'm too cool for my own good
just kidding, I'm a god

I don't know why the other guy thinks Chad is getting fed up. That's the exact opposite of what's happening.

Men always have to do everything for women.

I'm still unnerved by the fact that most people I've talked to consider the wedding "her day". Like the man doesn't even get any fucking consideration on his own God dam wedding.

>want to go MGTOW
>also want to just cuddle up to someone and generally have a best friend to spend time with everyday because I've been lonely my whole life

Sorry buddy but the greatest mistake you can make in life is to place your happiness in another person.

It will fuck you over every single time.

Then you don't really want to go MGTOW. Unless you're an absolute state there's hope.

You have to serve your country. :^)

>Unless you're an absolute state there's hope.

> basing your happiness on another person

Wew

I feel the same, I'm 19 trying to get an education (not very successfully) but overall i don't see much point in trying very hard. What sort of future is there for me? Obviously browsing this site reinforces that belief because you're constantly bombarded with depressing shit, but yeah, the family is pretty much a dead system, there is no higher purpose to life cause religion is dead and buried, what's the point in getting married if she's going to end up hating me and getting a divorce, happened to my dad and he worked hard his whole life. If I buy into the system this is what will probably ultimately happen to me, of course there are exceptions to this but instead I could just sit here, play games, fap to porn and watch anime. In a way I'm just trying to rationalise my laziness in that I could still improve my situation and live a happier life regardless of how shit the outside world is, but it's still true.

Retarded general education burgers aren't welcome here, friendo.

capsweb.org/blog/overpopulated-≠-overcrowded

I very much mean overpopulated. This isn't a source, but an article many people should read.

You are a result of 4 billion years of constant struggle, pain and death. Their struggle provided you with all these amazing tools you take for granted so that you would continue their work of building a future. Not so you could jerk off to cartoon horses.

Hedonism; the pursuit of pleasure, i.e. jerking off to cartoon horses is universally described by people with experience as one of the least fulfilling things you can pursue.

Helping to build society, working towards a future, planting a tree and visiting it 20 years later. Raising a child. These are universally described by people with experience as the most fulfilling things you can pursue. This all matches with biology, when you agree with your natural state you will be happier.

What kind of woman would I get if I have my own house, successful job, etc? A career woman, go-getter on my level who's not interested in children and is most likely a feminazi? Or a younger woman who might want a family but just milk me for everything I have?

Right now I'm just sticking on my own and doing my own thing. I honestly think there will be huge racial tension in the next couple of decades in the West and am just preparing for it at this point. I'll protect myself, friends, and family I have now.

Only for a world without vidya

>>Lads! Britain needs you to do your duty and get flirting
>Charlotte Gill
Googled the author.
I don't think lads are the problem love.

>Men always have to do everything for women.

No we don't. Men only accept it because we put up with it. The whole "BE A REAL MAN AND MAN UP" thing is just faux masculinity which exists to serve women. Yes, we are expected to do everything for women, but we don't have to.

I think about it this way: I still want to make money and I still have passions. But I no longer stress about my pace of doing things. There's no "fuck fuck fuck, I need to be Y before I'm X years old" because I won't have a family. If I reach my dream next year, awesome, but if it takes until I'm 72, who gives a fuck? I only have my mission in life now.

Population. If you read the experiment the mice had enough food and shelter to house 3000 yet they stopped at 2200

knowing what iceland is like nowadays I'd rather not procreate and give next generations the "pleasure" of living there

Well said

No. We need to have a purpose.

There's no great war.
No great hardship.
No great achievement.

We're not building an empire.
We're not fighting the Nazi's.
We're not going to the moon.

There is literally fuck all that society is striving towards other than more hedonism and degeneracy.

People are dropping out because there is simply no reason to buy in.

Their standards will gravitate to what is naturally advantagous for them (at least what appears to be so in the short term). The problems are bloated welfare and women getting advantages at every step in their life.

Articles like these tell me MGTOW is working.

MRA's have been fighting a losing battle for years, and all they had to do to win was drop down dead and useless, like a Canadian.

I'm sorry user, but that's not good enough. Struggling and being miserable merely for the sake of "trying" when I already did try and lost in this world.

Look, Western civilization is over. We are dying. Working 50 hours a week and raising 3 kids with a Harpy wife is no longer a solution and it's barely viable anymore.

We are reaching the terminal phase of our species. I honestly don't think we are going to last much longer than 2100. If that.

But your biggest mistake is thinking women are worth the effort. Sorry, they're not.

roasties have no power here.

Okay, let's suppose a government tries to take the "threat" seriously. Let's look at some of the available options:

1) A bachelor tax ... certainly there is historical precedent but it'd get thrown out as unconstitutional more or less immediately.

2) Trying to get women to stop being so awful ... I dunno, good luck with that.

3) Incentivize reproduction ... difficult to manage without adding to welfare entitlements. You'd have to restrict it to married couples making over a certain amount of money. That's a hard sell in the current political environment.

I don't see a lot of options.

It's really about doing what you want. Want to fap to ur waifu and collect body pillows? Go for it. Want to fuck sluts and play the field? Go for it. Want to try and start a family? Go for it. Just know what you're getting into.

I agree. We need to be part of something larger and modern life doesn't offer that. I can see why Ted Kascynski did what he did now

Is Iceland still a good country? Are mudslimes taking over?

singles tax will come

"if you make X amount of money, you pay 20% more, then 35% more, then 45% more if you make more than X-Z."

oh it fucking will come

Same here. feelsgoodman.jpg

No, we don't need to be apart of some big project. You're mistaking what made society successful.

I think you need three things for a people to flourish.

1. Chaste society. Strong pair bonding. Rigoursly enforced marriage. No alimony, no child support, and no birth control.

2. Ethnic uniformity. 95%+ of the same race. Keeps communities feeling connected and enforces high trust societies.

3. Space. You need space. You need some social rolls to be absent. If society gets too full, people drop out

>It's really about doing what you want.
True.
But it was also established under the premise that society is looking to bend men over and turn there starfish into a crater.

The idea of not giving into shaming, dogmatism, herd mentality, it's all for that. Have as much choice as you want, and if it hurts the society that is actively working against us, who the fuck cares?

If they claim you're not a real man?
Laugh because real men got real problems like real divorce. Fictions better, there's a goddamn reason we watch so much goddamn TV.

They tell you to man up?
Fuck that, I like the view down here.

Call you a pussy, a bitch, etc. all because you won't serve them?
Laugh it off, the more they push the harder they're getting hurt by it.

MGTOW, while being about choice, is also about men going "hang on, society really fucking needs us, huh... well they better start fucking acting like it, because I'm not giving into the stick, I want some fucking carrots."

Well, mice in socieites have less functions than humans do. We can do a lot more with the resources of the world than mice can, which creates more roles in society, meaning more people can exist.

There are none, the culture has to change so you can change law after which the economy follows.

To change culture you either need to acquire media, a catastrophe/sudden shift in demographics or any other big stuff.

Lefties/globalists imported one muslim too many instead of letting them outbreed whites over generations and that's why nationalism and 'islamophobia' are on the rise in Europe.

pls stop abusing your doggo

Those things are the larger things I was describing, user. Especially ethnic homogeneity

>. You need some social rolls to be absent. If society gets too full, people drop out
i dont understand what are you trying to say with 3

If you think women are going to allow that, you're kidding yourself. Single women will NOT let that happen, no way, no how. Feminism will go on and on about how disadvantaged women are, blah blah.

And then all we have to do is point out that restricting it to men alone is unconstitutional.

Can I be your friend?

Just leave the big cities. There's a reason why there's called rat mazes.

This kind of societal decline happens in all great cultures, because one state eventually conquers all its neighbors and institutes a centuries long period of peace and prosperity. War becomes a distant memory, food becomes a luxury rather than a necessity, and suddenly people find themselves with nothing to do and nothing to live for. That's what happened with the mice, and that's what's happening to us. This guy said it perfectly .

It's far worse in our post-industrial society than it has ever been before in human history, with almost free food and limitless cheap entertainment. This is why religion is dead and our society is in decline, because what's the point? Our lives are empty and extremely repetitive. Everything is provided for us. There's no fear of disease or war. You barely need to work for relatively high quality food and shelter, at least in a first world country. Our society no longer marries and produces children as a necessity but as a luxury. The same thing happened in ancient Rome and Augustus even tried to pass laws to fix it, making divorce laws more strict and making adultery a crime against the state. It won't be long before we start seeing similar laws being passed in our own society.

Who is more powerful, the Czech prime minister or president? I'm moving there and I can't figure it out

>be white
>work 2080 hours a year
>have 20% of your earnings pay for googles
>literally doing 400 hours of community service a year to feed niggers
no thanks let em starve

the problem is that when our society gets fixed it will be by sandgoogles who will rule just like germans ruled when the rome died

I don't have a dog in this particular fight, I was always born to be single, since I'm both ugly and handicapped.

I'm not so handicapped that I can't hold a job, I do okay with it, enough to support myself and my mom, but that's it.

Still, even if I were plain and able-bodied, I couldn't see myself wanting to get married ... I watch how my friends' wives treat them. It's not appealing. Talking to him like he's a retard. Constant complaining. About as warm as an iceberg. Foolishness with money. Blowjob maybe once a year on his birthday, otherwise "putting up with" sex. One little room in the house for him, if that. Golly gee, ma'am, where do I sign up for a lifetime of that shit?

I think you might be right. The mice had no connection to the food or water that was given to them so all they could do is distribute it. If I moved to the country and did things for myself I think I'd be better off

prime minister
same for all eu countries
president is just a celebrity

He meant "roles".

He's basically saying that people need to feel valued by society. They need to have a place in the infrastructure or else they sit around idly, leading to unrest.

>your biggest mistake is thinking women are worth the effort
Your motivations are showing, you are still trying to justify your addiction to hedonism. I mentioned raising kids as one example of a fulfilling, contributing pursuit and you go full mgtow defensive.

Plant a tree, write a book, inspire someone with shitty poetry or even shittier memes, help fix the problems facing society, they will be solved btw. Burgerland may need to be written off but the rest of the world will continue.

I'm aware of Oswald Spengler's predictions and the fate of successful socieites. It's depressing because no other society throughout has become self aware of its problems on a large enough scale to combat it's demise. Everyone just keeps chugging along until its too late

The most important thing to keep in mind is that once a civilization begins to decline, the fall cannot be stopped or avoided.

It's already far too late for the West.

I'm reminded of that quote "Rome rules the world but the women rule Rome".

thx for clarifying,
its easy to misunderstand because the advent of privacy goes with liberalism
traditional healthy societies had much less privacy needs

no other society throughout history*

it's the result of industrialization and labor saving technology. We have a lot of 'surplus labor' as a Marxist would say. Once the demographic dies off we should have fewer people to use of resources, and the rest of us should be able to enjoy a true post-industrial paradise.

unless, of course, we keep importing cheap labor immigrants who are doomed to be unemployed, too.

Fucking neck yourself you cunt, that dog is worth more than you are.

think of it as a strike

Hahaha watch this is going to bite cunts in the ass so fucking hard. I love being a man.

Don't worry lads, just work hard, get in shape, and build up some self-esteem. Your sexual frustration will melt away the moment war begins, or the moment women catch up to reality.

Thankfully the worst of these cunts will never have children, and will be tortured by regret over it moving into their twilight. It's a self-correction thing, and you will get to savor their harpy tears.

>mfw my sexual value skyrockets with age and success

It's gonna be really interesting once welfare state will collapse because there are barerly any niggers in countryside and these are the only somehow self sufficient areas.

All great nations start stoic and end epicurean.

Note taken.

no study would be written like that
no study would come to such conlcusions
fiction

I think you need to shut the fuck up with your hedonism bull shit. I'm your ally here, you fool. I'm a virgin, I've never done drugs. I don't even drink. I'm as straight edge as you can get.

And I don't think the rest of the world will continue so merrily. Europe has that dying population and Muslim invasion to worry about. Now China might be fine, I'm sure they are loving the fall if the West right now.

Our best and brightest have the lowest birth rates though. It looks like sperm banks are our last hope

nope
all societies start by worshipping zeus and the company at the temple

Right on, bro.

>unicorns

ironic choice of words. in the USA a 'unicorn' is a uncoupled chick who is part of a swinger scene. A unicorn is a chick who likes to hook-up with couples.

We really need a WW3

it'll take more than dropping out of society to crash it. The numerous minority groups can contribute men to the husband-less white women, and they would inherit American society out from under of the white men.

Not necessarily, that only happened in Europe because of the Migrations period.

I don't think we can, as a society, become self aware. Though there will always be a few outliers like Spengler who recognize what's happening. If you think about it we humans are the first organisms on Earth to create such complex societies. I think that no matter how great our technological innovations, our biological programming will always keep us on the same level as John Calhoun's mice. It's a natural cycle in human culture that until the last century nobody has thought about before.

>Not necessarily, that only happened in Europe because of the Migrations period.
unlike today when migrations are not a thing

I just love how this article avoids blaming women for ANYTHING.

Somehow I don't see Muslim warlords conquering Europe any time in the near future. Not least because of the massive technological and military differences. And we have ethnocentric nation states where anti-immigration sentiment is on the rise. But fair point.

The first mosque will be built soon for foreign money ~600 muslims. Very slight problems with foreign criminal entities, mostly slav but they are always short lived here.

Small population means we can respond quickly to real threats and it's hard to hide here. We can also turn around politically much faster than most, for now there is strong pressure here like elsewhere to bring in immigrants to maintain gdp growth. The only real independent countries in modern globalist world are small ones. It's rarely worth it for global entities to jew with our politics directly.

We do have a culture of large families with nepotism and sense of community so even in worst case scenario of crazy sandnigger flood from previously unknown vein of sandniggers in the mountain we can still go jew style and maintain heritage internationally.

Volunteer, community culture still thrives here, we enjoy fighting volcanoes and shit, when it snows hard, everyone helps each other out of problems, even the muslims.
youtube.com/watch?v=ghl33n26d44

Since we are effectively dead, what comes next? In coming years I think we should expect extreme aggression on a global scale between industrialised powers, much like the mice.

Cred Forums likes to blame the Jews for modern problems but it appears it is a lot more fundamental than that . Maybe Jewish control is not a cause but more so a symptom of a dying society.

Do you think Islam is propped up by our aggressions towards them? Maybe if we stopped attacking the Muslims Islam would die off like Christianity

Previously humanity lived very close to malthusian limit of the population. But the once strong correlation between wealth and number of offspring has recently reversed for some unfathomable reason. Now the wealthiest populations which are leading in productivity are also dying out. Productivity still increases (like it did for thousands of years and will continue to do forever), but we're no longer pushing on the limit every step of the way, so thanks to all that spare productivity the wealthiest societies can afford a standard so high, some of the people aren't even required to work. Couple it with the malignant lack of interest in reproduction, and it turns out that those that don't work still live pretty decently.

Human reproduction always happened faster than productivity growth, so as long as you allow the primitives to settle in your wealthy societies, there is a chance they'll drag everyone back to the malthusian limit again, unless you manage to infect them with your sub-replacement fertility rate. But apparently it's not contageous, judging by what little I know about the immigrants in germany and their parallel worlds.

It's says it right there, "work cohort."

They want white men to continue paying for things. Until they pull of a bachelor tax it ain't happening.

More like 32.8%.
$45,000 last year and I didn't get a deed of ownership.

>plan
Plans are for retards who want to cater to a woman for the rest of their days while playing house and doing chores all day. Oh, and don't forget working to sustain the illusion that you're keeping up with the carrot-on-a-stick Joneses

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screen cap this post folks and reply with opinions

>rollback all privileges and protections bestowed upon by the state upon roasties and minorities
>equality means EQUALITY
>no affirmative action
>no exclusive scholarships, nothing
>abolish the 'right" to discriminate, that's the state's job
>destroy the divorce-industrial complex
>end no fault divorces, force joint custody by default
>pre-nuptial agreements by default, alimony curbed into the dirt
t. leftie socialist

Getting real tired of right-wingers replacing repression with patronizing.

You should read this it's pretty interesting avery.morrow.name/blog/2014/10/oswald-spenglers-decline-of-the-west-the-100th-anniversary-update/

Christianity isn't dying off, only in first world countries for the reasons I said in my other post. The places where Islam is most popular are shitholes so the people there have a reason to keep believing in their religion.

Most of the social movements that led to societal decline were founded by Jews, so I'm still blaming em

Me?

I'm going to stay in my comfy cabin in the mountains. I have a brook full of fish that runs through my 40 acre plot. I have deer, bears, rabbits, and game birds on my land. I have completed fencing and shed for my 5 goats. I made my first good cheese a month ago. My hens are content and laying eggs like crazy. My garden was excellent this year. I have been teaching myself black smithing on top of my carpentry skills. I make stained glass and wood carvings. I write and I paint and I walk my property. Visitors come to my place and I teach them local foraging for root plants, mushrooms and other wild edibles. I make my living working at a small local hospital. I know most people in my community. I think I'm doing just fine.

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poland is 98% polish, nobody trusts anybody

STFU lying cunt. You dont deserve a fucking thing. Youre pretending to be 'one of le guys' by being on Cred Forums but those are whores.
Most likely youre pic related.

"Air Tight"

I can almost guarantee you're not a 9/10, if you were you would be modeling

You are having fun with coding cheats. We all find our niche Ausbro

Religion only seems to do well when people are exposed to the ruthless nature of nature, perhaps as a defence mechanism. If we stopped bombing them back to the stone age, their lives would become cushier and Islam would have less of a grip over them.

Also thanks for the link

>lefty
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