Mfw I discovered Hitler did LITERALLY nothing wrong

>aggressively expand your borders
>invade Poland unprovoked
>build government property in British territory

>didn't do nuffin, he wuv a good boff

Honestly I'd love to watch a movie that was about Hitler's life starting from his childhood into his old age where it shows him growing up as an illegitimate child and going through WW1 and seeing the horrors of war and then into WW2 and seeing his beloved country get destroyed by external forces.

Throughout the movie they could leave him nameless and make him really sympathetic so the audience grows to like him and then by the end when everyone's chanting "Heil Hitler" the audience will realize they've been feeling sympathetic for Hitler this whole time and that he dindu nuffin.

I think that would be a really cool movie with a nice slow-burn "twist" that can be a pretty interesting commentary on relativism and making sure history is always seen through multiple lenses.

Well, history is written by the winners. Isn't it literally a crime in Canada and Europe to dispute the official narrative of the Holocaust?

Russia was going to enforce bolschevism on all of Europe. He had too fight back.

by signing a treaty that gave them the baltics and finland?

>Generation Z is not just awakening, they are red pilled and ready.

Gen Zers are the most retarded people I've ever seen.
They also think they're hot shit for being able to use a fucking tablet, even though they don't have the slightest idea how it works.

Nah by signing my big fat hairy dick ya bloody cunt.

>he helped jews get out of germany

I don't understand this meme, the havaara-agreement just made it easier for those who wanted to leave to leave before he started booting them out, and then later killing them. You don't just fire up the ovens, you ease into it.

Do you really think the havaara-agreement was signed out of the kindness of his heart?

Of course not, that's the point. Everything he did was for (or he thought was for) the benefit of der volk, der volk, und der volk.

It does however prove he wasn't this blood thirsty devil he is painted as.

Cool story, Schlomo.

For those with open minds, pick 'What is Versailles Treaty' for $500 and then 'Who was Weimar' for another $250.

Once you're done with that, I'd suggest looking into very close relationship between the Reich and Poland while Piłsudski was alive. The diplomatic run up to the war was engineered by the UK (((LEADERSHIP))), full stop.

It's sad what happened to Poland (I have Polish family who fled to the UK during WWII.) But Germany's hand was forced. Poland's best move was an alliance with Hitler in preparation for war with the USSR. Poland would have lost territory in her west, but gained in the (north) east.

Instead Poland had its leadership wiped out and became a slave republic to the USSR. To this day, the old commies are still in power and the country is completely dependent on monies from the EU machine. Thus, I'm not seeing the legitimacy to any argument for pride in the choice that was made to be London's bait toy.

Russia wasn't an independent state during that time. Don't confuse Soviet Union with Russia, because the former waged war on the latter.

Watch this if you want to make your blood boil.
m.youtube.com/watch?v=7mA0kk29DBA

This and the holocaust was the greatest thing that never happened.

>They also think they're hot shit for being able to use a fucking tablet, even though they don't have the slightest idea how it works.

hah
your fucking right.

>>He HELPED Jews get out of Germany
Yes, he wanted them out for they had a very negative influence on their culture and people.

>Poland started slaughtering German civilians and didn't want to stop

If Hitler truly wanted an alliance with Poland, he wouldn't ask for our clay in return. Only cuck would agree for terms like that.

Your ancestors would be ashamed of you. Traitor.

This is a great documentary and sheds real light on the overarching Soviet plan of driving to the Atlantic. It also has a great discussion on the diplomatic crisis that led to the war in Poland.

The only clay he required from Poland was Danzig, you fucking filthy snownigger.

Canada is a piece of shit country, don't even regard it as a place

Kek

>get tired of hoi3
>want to play hoi4 to check it out
>becomes slow by late 1940
>unplayable by late 1941
>I will have to keep playing hoi3
I need to build a new rig, this one's pretty old.

...

A Gdańsk, and an "exterritorial corridor between Germany and Prussia".

Which of course we didn't agree for. You don't ask for someone's clay if you want to ally with him. It's not our fault that Hitler was retarded.

HoI4 is terrible anyway you aren't missing anything.

I get how awkward and edgy nerds get off on flirting with Fascism/nazism

but he really was the original mad man

>aggressively expand your borders
Except the reunification of Germany with its minor outlying sectors was voluntarily decided by the voters from those regions. Calling something "aggressive" is not an objective observation, it's propganda.
>invade Poland unprovoked
Poles had launched countless pogroms against millions of ethnic Germans trapped in former Prussian territory, with the Polish government both condoning it and refusing to meet with Germany at the negotiating table at all. This was something that had gone on extensively since the end of the first world war.
>build government property in British territory
Brits had invaded half of the fucking world at that point. Cry me a river.

Wtf? I am now #AdolfHitllaryClinton

>Danzig
Danzig wasn't polish, it was under a league of nations mandate. Hitler demanded the whole corridor, not just the city

>Mostly believing he knew better than his generals and other officials.

this is why he lost in the east. Hitler demanded more and more control as things got worse, while Stalin gave up more and more control to his generals as things got worse.

And Churchill cucking Stalin out of all of his demands, like that Russia got to keep everything they took in the Molotov-Ribbentrop pact, was also a great move

>Poland started slaughtering German civilians and didn't want to stop
It turns out Poland was doing a favor to Europe, because to everybody's shock Germans turned out to be mindless savages

>Russia was going to enforce bolschevism on all of Europe. He had too fight back
By killing Poland which stopped bolshevism in 1920?

>Except the reunification of Germany with its minor outlying sectors was voluntarily decided by the voters from those regions.

Pushing into Russia all the way to the A-A line is not even close to Germany "just taking back muh land!"

>Poles had launched countless pogroms against millions of ethnic Germans trapped in former Prussian territory

Complete and utter stormfag bullshit. Germanic Poles were actually one of the best treated minorities in Europe and its funny that neonazis would actually cry about the mistreatment of minorities

He killed millions of civilians in concentration camps.

HOI4 production model is cool, desu. But the rest is shit

>Except the reunification of Germany with its minor outlying sectors was voluntarily decided by the voters from those regions.
wrong except for saarland

>Poles had launched countless pogroms against millions of ethnic Germans trapped in former Prussian territory
source?

He had to stop Bolschevism by invading Poland with the Bolschevics and giving them control of the baltic countries?

good one stormfag

>this is why he lost in the east.
No, he lost because the red army had superior morale, had superior logistics, had superior tactical capability and bastly superior operational capability. Germany also lost because USSR production was much higher and off equivalent quality, at least

get the late game performance mod on the workshop, helps a ton

I love to shit on HoI4 but the new patch has some really good features

>Germanic Poles were actually one of the best treated minorities in Europe
Nah, the polish government wasn't all flowers and nice with the german minority. Do you have a source?

It's all perspective, you should now that by now. What is right and what is wrong is all in the eyes of whomever is trying to achieve their own agenda.

you'd have to recreate the events of his life in a sci-fi type setting or many people would catch on pretty quick.

interesting idea though...

>but the new patch has some really good features
Like what? I think the game shows promise, but they need to overhaul much stuff. Diplomacy as potential, but it needs to be improved

It is. Please invade us: we won't fight you (because then you'd win).

>Isn't it literally a crime in Canada and Europe to dispute the official narrative of the Holocaust?
No it's not. It's just forbidden to deny warcrimes to fulfill your personal agenda

>West Prussia
>"Poland"

They fixed the AI sending basically it's entire army into the Sahara desert or Siberian wastelands. AI reacts a lot better to environmental attrition and prioritizes fronts better. Also they added a screen before you start the game that allows you to outright buff or nerf any of the great powers so you can create different scenarios each time you play, in addition to fixing the USSR focus tree.

All paradox games are shit on release, that's a consequence of a lack of competition. I think HoI4 will be improved substantially if this recent patch is any indication. (not defending their shitty practices though)

copying another post from a his thread

What about hundreds of German schools, bilingual administration, German political parties (including German senators for life) and so on.

This paid off because in difference to Sudetenland, only a minority of Polish Germans embraced Nazism. Some were even active in Polish army and underground.

A good example was admiral von Unrug who commanded the Polish defence of the coast. Von Unrug, a member of ancient Frankonian family and a war hero of WW1, claimed to have forgotten the German language on September 1st, 1939. He refused to leave his POW camp and spoke through interpreter even with his own fucking family.

Or the Polish branch of von Habsburgs who lived in their estates in Żywiec. The Nazis expropriated them because they bluntly refused to have anything to do with them.

As far as I know, there was even certain von Bismarck who fought with distinction for the Polish army.
in any case, the Poles werent holocausting krauts like stormfags pretend

Also checks and balance have always exited in the universe. Hitler and the far-right in Germany was created in response to socialist and far-let movements all over the world, much like how Trump rose to power in Amercia as a response to the political correctness and far-left juggernaut that has had ahold of America for the past 7 years.

>Well, history is written by the winners.

>to a booming economy and employment rate
By blowing a ton of money on re-arming.

0% unemployment is trivial when you institute conscription. No job? You're a soldier now.

>he fell for the 'dey slaughtered germunz' meme

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Churchill was based for seeing the threat that communism posed but cucked for serving international bankers instead of fighting alongside his Germanic brothers

definitely an intriguing historical figure

Polish germans did welcomed nazi takeover. Your examples are old Junkers protesting nazi rule, which was not uncommon.

>in any case, the Poles werent holocausting krauts like stormfags pretend

This is just stormfaggotry, no one takes this seriously

>Hitler and the far-right in Germany was created in response to socialist and far-let movements all over the world
If Hitler was a left vs right thing, then why did he destroyed a state that was almost as nationalistic and anti-semite as nazi germany? I bet you don't even know who i am talking about

Hitler took out women and jews from unemployment statistics.

...

Germans voluntarily asked the polish king to incorporate them to the kingdom of Poland, because they didn't want to be ruled by the Teutonic Order. This is how Poland incorporated Pomerania back as its territory. And the leader of those Germans coined the phrase "Poland from sea to sea"

Churchill was a fat degenerate with his soul on consignment to the skypes. He sold off the British Empire to fight a war on their behalf. He was possibly the greatest traitor the English people have ever known.

Here you go friend. From the Red Cross themselves

youtube.com/watch?v=iEeSPc5oTcM

International Finance was ALL that the aristocracy had left to sustain themselves with after having their ancestral rights whittled away decade after decade.

There was a time when Lords profited off their land production harking back to medieval times, and that kept them loyal to Britain's interest. By the turn of the centuries they were land-rich but bankrupt and were forced to brokering up their estates and/or getting in bed with filthy Jews as a way to stay afloat. It was an inevitable outcome to the politics of "muh entitled posh people"

>muh fake quote

Hitler was just another brand of communism, but more insane to churchill, and he wasnt wholly wrong about that either.

What makes you think Red Cross had access to all the camps in nazi germany and were able to make a precise death toll?

>Gdansk
Why do we even have to live in this timeline... towards the ruin of national states...

>muh red cross

>What makes you think Red Cross had access to all the camps in nazi germany and were able to make a precise death toll?

they didnt. This is denier shit that was disproved in the 70s

Yes, Gdańsk is the correct name of this city.
And my state is doing pretty fine, thank you.

I ask myself, what do people like you do here? You're never going to change this board's beliefs, no matter how hard you try, or how many Wikipedia articles you link.
I mean, do you keep wasting your time here because you have nothing else to do? Are you obese or something? Maybe a stinky commie, a kike, a nigger, I have no idea of how people who do what you're trying to do here look like.
But keep it up though, the more you struggle to defend your beliefs which will never be heard in this place, the more tired you get, the more satisfied I feel like.

shit this post makes a lot of sense.

why did they stop making so much money from their lands?

I know, i was on the process of debunking that shit. But your pic makes my work much simpler. Saved

Make a new thread about holocaust denial please. They are my favorite threads

>pissy butthurt comments because you lost the debate

4+Cred Forums Cred Forums is a naziboo circle jerk if thats what you want.

Hitler did many things wrong.

>Trying to kill the jews because fuck them out of nowhere instead of slowly pushing antisemitism on the masses
>Gigantic lust for land started WW2, he was not forced into WW2 at all
>Thought he knew better than his generals
>Made peace treaties, yes, but he fucking broke his pact with the USSR and tried fighting a war on 3 fronts

2 fronts, not 3

bro, all that shit works both ways. You are insulting me because you see me often here, but to see me often here YOU have to be here often also.

No i'm not fat, no i'm not a commie. I am what my trip and flag says i am.

> which will never be heard in this place
lol, holocaust denial shit will be popular here, but it makes me happy that all of you are probably bullied in real life and are the absolute bottom barrel of society. I used to bully a neo-nazi, kek, what a faggot.

You poor little delusional stormie.

This is a Christian board. Go back to your cripplechan where you belong.

>Make a new thread about holocaust denial please.

no thx

I am not an expert on 19th century political changes in Britian, but I think it began as early as the 18th century. A strengthening of the House of Commons (i.e. commoners, because Lords were restricted to serve in the House of Lords only) which naturally meant that policies favoring the proletariat and working-class sentiment was the domineering force.

Horse of Lords powers being weakened and unable to keep Commons in check, ect. Financial and estate reforms and industrialization and globalized imports weren't kind to traditional domestic agriculture profits. The weakening of the British Empire.

I only have a foggy understanding you would have to have Brit historian who isn't a Marxist republican weigh in.

Here is the full article

truedemocracyparty.net/2012/06/red-cross-expose-judaic-holocaust-hoax/
Every thread we have the same fucking debate about this shit

You jew cucks still can't fucking tell me where the 6 million bodies are at.
You cant tell me how 1940s german cremators burned all these bodies.
You can't tell me where the bone fragments are.
You can't tell me where these gas chambers are, or any full evidence that they were used.

Give me some fucking proof that isnt your same tired bait, you jew cuck faggots

>Every thread we have the same fucking debate about this shit
>You jew cucks still can't fucking tell me where the 6 million bodies are at.
>You cant tell me how 1940s german cremators burned all these bodies.
>You can't tell me where the bone fragments are.
>You can't tell me where these gas chambers are, or any full evidence that they were used.
>Give me some fucking proof that isnt your same tired bait, you jew cuck faggots

not an argument. You didnt even address that your red cross argument was BTFO

I lost the debate? Where's my debate with him, nigger? Do you even know how to read LMAO

Your first paragraph proves how oblivious you are to logic. Complaining about your attitude doesn't imply at all that I'm here often. It implies I know exactly what this place is all about, and that you're desperately trying to go against it, trying to be 'inquisitive antagonist xDDD)))' no one gives a shit about lol

I also like how you say you used to bully someone like I give a flying fuck about hallucinations or something.

bro, Red Cross did not have access to nazi concentration and extermination camps.

>You jew cucks still can't fucking tell me where the 6 million bodies are at.
>You cant tell me how 1940s german cremators burned all these bodies.
>You can't tell me where the bone fragments are.
>You can't tell me where these gas chambers are, or any full evidence that they were used.

You know you can google all this shit? What is the problem with crematoriums?

>all that cuck unecessary name calling

>>>/blacked/

>Where's my debate with him, nigger?

exactly, you just admit defeat at the start and that you will stubbornly hang onto your meme history. Probably because it makes you feel special and fuels your righteous indignation

>I WAS WRONGED BY THE JEWS AND UNCLE ADOLF WAS GONNA SAVE ME!

just look at the rest of your response. You've completely abandoned your shilling for nazism and instead are engaging in a goal post moving shit post fest of "yeah, well youre stupid!"

Perhaps you should fuck off to double chan where you degenerates belong

Accuses me of
>trying to be 'inquisitive antagonist xDDD)))'

and in his 2nd post he wrote

>I ask myself, what do people like you do here? You're never going to change this board's beliefs, no matter how hard you try, or how many Wikipedia articles you link.

AHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAAHAHAH never seen such a projection attempt like this.

Keep up on posting, you are amusing me

>asks for source every other post
>deflects every question by saying just google it

If there was solid proof either way about this whole shit we wouldn't have these threads anymore

I'm sick of the same old stupid shit on this board full of retards

>If there was solid proof either way
Define solid proof.

Are you going to say >muh coroner examination? Or perhaps >muh video/photographic evidence?

You are telling me that the holocaust happend.
Please provide proof for on why it happend addressing the issues i stated.

Also, indroducing an image of a document with the title "muh red cross" doesn't btfo anything.
Give me a fucking citation for these documents, how are their statements exactly accruate, and where are they getting their data from
>haha why dont you google it yourself faggot, i dont have to argue with you or give you any citations on why the holocaust actually happened

>Give me a fucking citation for these documents, how are their statements exactly accruate, and where are they getting their data from
ironic

>haha why dont you google it yourself faggot, i dont have to argue with you or give you any citations on why the holocaust actually happened

I was just sayin man. It's all material you can easily google.

What are your questions?

One thing I'll never understand is the mass killing of Jews. Jewish bankers were no doubt the ultimate villain then and now still but I somehow doubt some backwater jewish dirt farmer in the middle of nowhere in poland and his qt daughters, for example, held any sort of power or influence, culturally or otherwise. I think Hitler spent his life fighting monsters and It took its toll, not to mention the hard drugs

Except that's a fact. I am not saying something for the sake of saying something, it's the plain truth. Simply be aware of where you are. For someone who claims to bully people you display a blatant lack of self-awareness, typical of awkward, rejected people

Anyways, I hope you enjoyed my post because when this is your amusement in life I can't help but feel sorry and pity. I really hope this amused you.

>You are telling me that the holocaust happend.

Im telling you that your red cross meme picture is bullshit

>indroducing an image of a document with the title "muh red cross" doesn't btfo anything

yeah, it actually does BTFO your red cross meme

>Give me a fucking citation for these documents

Just read them you idiot lol. Its from an article they published called "False Propaganda" and a letter they wrote about the very image you posted.

You also didnt "cite" your original source either. Youre just getting flustered because your neonazi blogs failed to mention the redcross argument was debunked in the 70s

Holy fuck this much projection in one post.

HAHHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAH
Thank you bro.

>Hitler did LITERALLY nothing wrong

Invading Russia in winter springs to mind.

Barbarossa started in the middle of summer. German forces invaded USSR, of which the population was only 50% Russian, not Russia, with the help of many Russian soldiers

oh boy here we go

You jew cucks still can't fucking tell me where the 6 million bodies are at.
>I don't know what einsatzgruppen are
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Einsatzgruppen

You cant tell me how 1940s german cremators burned all these bodies.

You can't tell me where the bone fragments are.

You can't tell me where these gas chambers are, or any full evidence that they were used.
>Shortly following the camp's liberation, the Soviet government stated that four million people had been killed on the site, a figure now regarded as greatly exaggerated.[159] While under interrogation, Höss said that Adolf Eichmann told him that two and a half million Jews had been killed in gas chambers and about half a million more had died of other causes.[160] Later he wrote, "I regard the figure of two and a half million as far too high. Even Auschwitz had limits to its destructive possibilities".[161] Gerald Reitlinger's 1953 book The Final Solution estimated the number killed to be 800,000 to 900,000,[162] and Raul Hilberg's 1961 work The Destruction of the European Jews estimated the number killed to be a maximum of 1,000,000 Jewish victims.
quoted from en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Auschwitz_concentration_camp#Death_toll

Yeah, ok. Makes sense, specially when most of europe saw stalin as an enemy before hitler took the attention off of him.

>Why war? To keep that German town, Danzig, from calling itself German? No. In England’s eyes, at least, the town was not worth it. To “protect Poland,” then? No, surely not, however much the hypocrites might say so, and however much the fools might believe it. Poland could well do without the impossible “corridor.” And if she could not, who cared? No. War was waged upon Germany to crush Germany; not for any other reason. The unseen, all-powerful Jew, who governed—and still governs—England, had decided that Germany should be crushed, had to be crushed, because he hated her. And he hated her not because she had grown free, strong, and proud and was a “threat” to the peace of Europe (which she was not) but because she was National Socialist Germany, Hitler’s Germany, the herald of the awakening of the Aryan soul all over the world, and a very positive threat to the continuation of the unseen rule of the Jew behind all so-called “national” governments.

All Jews claims against Nazis are based on Soviet claims
It's as simple as this. Do you give the Soviets any credibility ?

>I don't know what jews surviving the holocaust are
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/If_This_Is_a_Man

>invade poland unprovoked

kike try harder

watch Cred Forums's video with over 6,000,000 vews

youtube.com/watch?v=AnpTWKKWQ1o

you'll realize everything the jews taught you about Hitler was WWII atrocity propaganda . They keep the lie running because it helps the zionists

many claims of holocaust survivors have already been proven false. being a holocaust survivor will literally get you reparation money, there's financial incentive to lie about it. you shouldn't believe in something based on the words of """witnesses""" alone.

Here in USA there are famous examples of people lying about being 9/11 survivors. the holocaust is no different

not an argument

>bitch about propaganda

>post a cringy propaganda youtube video

>Here in USA there are famous examples of people lying about being 9/11 survivors.

yeah, so does this mean 9/11 never happened?

>many claims of holocaust survivors have already been proven false.

Yes that may be right I actually don't have info on that. But I can however give countless evidence people was deported in great number, killed in huge pits (Babi Yar), or put in ghetto.

The Shoah happened it's a fact. I'm not here to defend jews but history.

lol

>17 posts by this ID
>not JIDF

>ad hominem
whatever burger

Invaded Russia too early.....yes Hitler did something wrong

Yes it is illegal in a couple of countries, but they won't prosecute until you gain traction.

Notably not illegal in sweden and norway though.

He also personally invented IR laws we have today such as holidays and sick pay, as well as animal rights and the banning of vivisection. What a monster.

>jewgle is now a credible source

Italy pleas youre the the traitor. All the fucking time

>The Shoah happened
Where are the bodies?

Why was the lie of gas chambers invented?

>Where are the bodies?

>Where are the bodies

It means their claims of devastation they experienced aren't true.

> Where are the bodies?

Sources please!

>where are the bodies

Even a million billion Jews were killed, so fucking what? Jews are shit people.

> where are the bodies

>where are the bodies?

those don't even have jew noses, and none of the jew curly hair.
Those are german and polish soldiers after the russians caught them.

>The peoples of Islam
>Closer to us than France

hahahahahhaahahhahahahha

> where are the bodies?

You do realize that the current legal borders of Germany are pic related?

I can't recall the Reich signing a treaty with your country granting you just one square inch of our land.
Your pathetic nation was nothing but a pawn to the jews, lol.

The treatys you signed with the "Federal Republic of Germany" are irrelevant, because the "Federal Republic" is not, and never will be, the actual German state. Even the supreme Court in this so called "Federal Republc))) has ruled that the Reich is still existing, just momentarily unable to act.

Sorry to burst your bubble.

And even if we would want to gift you our territory(wich we never will) the Federal Republic is not entitled to abandon the Reichs' Territory. The Federal Republic could as well sign a treaty with the US and abandon Honolulu.

And why should you be rewarded for siding with the jews, who are the archenemy of all europeans? Do you Poles have no shame?

It doesn't matter though, those lands are, and will always be, ours.

A FUCKING DICE

>Here in USA there are famous examples of people lying about being 9/11 survivors
so that means 9/11 was fake

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google is not a source you fucking retard. It's a way to search for sources.

How much of a retard are you that you don't even know what a search engine is? Finish high school man.

holocaustcontroversies.blogspot.co.at/2009/03/photographic-documentation-of-nazi.html

Eternal fucking Anglos

How do we sink that fucking island

lol, you retarded mate?

they signed a treaty n 1990 (I think) accepting the eastern border

aaron?

>No, he lost because the red army had superior morale, had superior logistics, had superior tactical capability and bastly superior operational capability. Germany also lost because USSR production was much higher and off equivalent quality, at least
>le red army was good meme
kys, the only reason they won is because they had more numbers

You could argue wether it was morally right to invade Poland or not, but it was hardly unprovoked. Really shows how little you know about the Poland if the first half of the 20th century

>Nationalist View and random picture never debate guy.

All the old kike apologists are here are here.

You are counting civilian deaths. If you compare germans KIA vs USSR KIA they are almost even.

Red army was vastly superior to german army by late war bro

>but it was hardly unprovoked.
What was Poland provocation?

>>le red army was good meme

they managed to push the Germans out of Moscow and then Zhukov was able to encircle them at Stalingrad.

Germany also invaded them with Finland, Hungary, Romania, Bulgaria, and 200,000+Spanish volunteers AND they caught the Russians with their pants down to Stalins incompetence and destoryed 1/3rd of their airforce in the first few weeks and the Russians still not on resisted them, not only pushed them out of Moscow, but pushed them all the way to Berlin.

ahem

and they still had 10 times more population than all 400 countries invading it, it would be shameful if they didn't had got moscow back.

The guy at 1:47 looks like captain picard.

not disagreeing with the point you're making but also the Soviets were basically fighting on just one front (albeit a huge front) while the Germans had been fighting on several fronts simultaneously for years

>it would be shameful if they didn't had got moscow back.

>back

They never lost it. Its what the entire German plan was about and it failed, so then they turned and tried to take Stalingrad and failed at that. The Russians were more than the zerg rush hordes memers give them credit for.

The Federal signed a bunch of funny treaties, thats true.
Too bad that the Federal Republic is not the actual German state. So any treaty signed by them only applies to them. Not to Germany.

>Too bad that the Federal Republic is not the actual German state. So any treaty signed by them only applies to them. Not to Germany.

what is this? autistic meme law?

I know, the topic is difficult to comprehend for an average amerilard.

It's called the truth.

>and they still had 10 times more population than all 400 countries invading it

population is irrelevant. The invading Axis forces were around 4 million, the largest invasion force in history, while the Soviets had around almost 3 million.

They were about even at 1 million each at the Battle of Moscow to. Like I said before, the worst things got, the more Hitler autistically demanded more control, while Stalin did the exact opposite and got out of the way of his generals

Is it true he used to poison his own people's water supply with fluoride?

I know that feel user... just watched Greatest Story Never Told and HOLY shit the lies they tell you in school

Sounds like russia.

>history is written by the winners
By the victors, christ.

Watch at least the first part.
youtube.com/watch?v=NSI5LkRGOKg

That's not 11 million bodies.

wintersonnenwende.com/scriptorium/english/archives/deathinpoland/dp00.html

why do you have these

>they managed to push the Germans out of Moscow

You do know they never reached Moscow?

A critical failure in not reinforcing the central push and lack of proper winter equipment was the pivotal point that led to failure to get Moscow. Had the southern offensive been slowed down and resources diverted to central army, it would've been complete faceroll over USSR.

Too bad we now have to see the results in Evropa.

So did we do anything good around WW2? Were we completely bad?

Never change Nederstraya

Yeah. Ive put it down for a while. Sunflower is alright but now i cant cheese germoney as poland. Waiting for more DLC and patches. Playing that good EU4 while I wait.

they're not even from the 'holocaust' they're from various typhus outbreaks and even something in dresden ohio, not at home computer right now so can't post proof but you can look it up

>and they still had 10 times more population
No, USSR had a population of at most 170 millions. Germany had 80 millions. Germany+France+Italy already surpass those numbers

>they're from various typhus outbreaks and even something in dresden
source?

holocaustcontroversies.blogspot.co.at/2009/03/photographic-documentation-of-nazi.html

>they're from various typhus outbreaks and even something in dresden ohio

no they arent. Funny how you fags need to lie all the time in order to make your none arguments

Just like Libya.

anybody got Hitler doing a quenelle?

>blocked in austria
of course it is

its a fake quote. Stop being such a gullible dunce

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>(24)

it's only you faggots posting in this thread

holy kek

>31

you know t is friday night, but you decide to shill jew propaganda on Cred Forums , why?

not an argument. Especially when you are also posting in the thread

from my phone you desperate jew , please spam some more random pictures though , even though they aren't of jews and don't fit into any of your religious fables about the shoah

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>>Poland did start the war. Read a history book without pictures for once.

We can't openly redpill the public on Hitler, we can only use him to destroy modern liberalism. He didnt die for nothing

>tfw grandma grew up in natsoc germany
>tfw we always have amazing conversations about society
>she's the only one I can talk freely with
>even my "redpilled" friends and gf are fucking dipshits
>tfw she'll die within my lifetime
what a cruel fucking joke

wow. really sad

>Was forced into WWII
WEW
E
W

youtu.be/G57GKUtWzNs

"Redpilled" family changed our family name from Himler because it was too similar to Himmler and Hitler. Sad times

From gen z here but I couldn't agree with you more.

So everything that exists today goes back to class conflict of Europe post-Rome?

Fuck this gay earth

He really did do nothing wrong. The whole thing could have been averted quite easily.

sorry hans, your years of anti-nazi indoctrination are coming to an end.

The whole "holocaust is exaggerated" is probably the biggest red pill I'd have a very hard time accepting. It's just so fucking insane that they've kept it going for this long.

>lend lease act

It's really not, the whole existence of Israel was hinged on this fake persecution narrative

if you think about it, and look into it. The jews started WWII and pushed this propaganda just so they could get Israel.

Through marxist revolutions, warmongering ect.. the jews are responsible for nearly 200 million deaths in the 20th century... of course they carry on their lies

this is how and why people rightfully call the jews evil, it's because of their actions

It is a half truth that is more like 1/10th truth. They had a shitload of prisoners of war and they were kinda fighting the entire world. They couldn't afford to feed everyone and tens of thousands died in the winters and from starvation.

the most disappointing thing about this is nobody cares how many people were actually killed by occupation forces, because the holocaust drowns them out

people were shot on the spot by the thousand in east europe by both sides

where's their monuments and tourist traps?

Thank God please stop my fucking retarded generation of pussies (millennials)

Well not just that Stalin killing fucking millions of his own people and not even being part of the Geneva convention did unspeakable acts to the prisoners and the people all along the way to berlin.

>WEW
>E
>W

More like

JEW
E
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Not bad exactly. Just woefully misguided by (((certain elements))).

>Funny how you fags need to lie all the time
What is projection for six million, Alex?

I weep for the future. Gen z is absolutely indoctrinated up to their eyeballs. We're fucked. We need WWIII, and lots of liberals to be conscripted and die

>commanded the most disciplined and best equipped army in the world
>on the ground defeted by slav subhumans
>humiliated in sea and air by anglos
>hurr durr 2 years of natsoc glory muh blitzkrieg

>took a country that had been absolutely rekt by the skypes
>revived its economy, rebuilt its military
>got dogpiled by the three largest empires on the planet
>damn near wins regardless
>yeah but overwhelming odds against them they lost anyways tho lmao hitler btfo!!1!
Pull the other one, Shlomo.

Is there any proof for the supposed Danzig massacres?

(((sources)))
Spotted the leaf proxy

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>had superior morale
>If you turn around and run we shoot you ourselves
I'd charge forward too but that doesn't count as morale

>had superior logistics
No argument here. Objectively true

>had superior tactical capability
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA

>Germany also lost because USSR production was much higher and off equivalent quality,
Literally borrowed American production.

Thinking about that, America beat Japan with only like half its production power since it gave the other half off to the allies.

>Poles had launched countless pogroms against millions of ethnic Germans trapped in former Prussian territory
There were no pogroms and population of ethnic Germans in Poland was under a million in 1931 already. They also weren't trapped but free to leave for Germany.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polish_census_of_1931

youtube.com/watch?v=TW-pw4rRvUI

>free to leave for Germany
And free to leave behind their lands, farms, and businesses.
t.brother-in-law is Polish from a German family. They've got stories.

>Chapter 1: The Beginning - September 3, 1939
>September 3, 1939

Did you even read your own link before posting?

>their lands, farms, and businesses.
They could've sold them and leave as they weren't forced to stay here if they didn't want to.

He shouldn't have taken over Czechoslovakia and he shouldn't have interfered with his generals by memeing Stalingrad to importance

Taking stalingrad was Hitlers sin of pride.

He really wanted to bantz Stalin by taking the city named after him. Moscow was actually less important to hitler.

youtube.com/watch?v=5Bc_zvcsuus

>Except the reunification of Germany with its minor outlying sectors was voluntarily decided by the voters from those regions. Calling something "aggressive" is not an objective observation, it's propganda.

Ah yes the democratically decided, completely non-rigged elections of the nazi regime, very legitimate indeed.

No it isn't, the fact that people still try to defend Hitler literally proves otherwise.

Also the common American belief that the American revolution was about "states rights" is an example of history written by the losers.

North Africa

>revived its economy, rebuilt its military
The economy was on the rise despite Hitler's policy, there's a lot of evidence showing that his Government's economic policy was just garbage and only kept afloat by forcing loans off of Vichy France and Poland.

>got dogpiled by the three largest empires on the planet
>damn near wins regardless

lolno, literally the only surprising thing that happened in WWII was that France was forced to capitulate, everything else was hilariously predictable.

>Can't cross channel
>Can't take the Suez
>Can't force Russian capitulation even when their military is in disarray.
>Get stomped
>Years later non-German dumbass on anime board complain how unfair the war was for Germany (which they started)

Are you serious?

Don't trust the red cross, but do trust our soviet-backed narrative about how nazis killed millions of jews and wanted to exterminate them all, top goy.

Don't look about how goulags were objectively worse than Auschwitz. Allies didn't gave a single shit about soviets crimes on ukrainians and poles, until soviets turned their vest on the jews after ww2.

For the nazi side, the truth is some jews were executed because they were political opponents in a time of war. Lots of jews didn't gave a shit about Germany, because it's not their promised land and were very attracted to communist ideas.
Non-political jews were just put to work in camps.

Holocaust as "the systematic extermination of jews" is a lie and as bibi can say it, this lie is a hundred years old
youtube.com/watch?v=-Ju1w-iDR0o

Congrats, you found some deads from malnutrition and typhus during war times where famine was rampant

This only makes me like Hitler more. Sucks for you faggot.

>Was forced into WWII
You didn't read mein Kampf and yet you talk about Hitler ?

Yes, we slaugtered civilians.
ALL THREE OF THEM.
WE DESERVED TO LOSE 50% OF OUR POPULATION

Piece of shit, pls step into my office to talk further.
BTW don't confuse me for a nazi white dude. I'm Hispanic and the world is tired of your ppl lies

This^ Germany will rise again!

America has been under a 'far left' nothing in the last seven years. You don't even know what 'far left' realistically is.

Good to see at least some of you slavs got sense and reason in you

If anyone actually cared about the Jews they would have done something about it much earlier, because the "internment" started in the early 30s. Besides many Jews were let go into Britain/France, and once the war started those Jew trains couldn't go anymore.

So pretending the Allies had to intervene because of the lolocaust, is a big fat lie.

Fun fact: Poland is counting the expelled German population as a loss of their people

Fun Fact: Poland counts money made of selling stolen cars as a part of their GDP

>Be Hitler.
>Invade and divede shitty Poland.
>Oh i know lets start a war with your only ally, that literally providing you with oil\food\metal.
>Well nothing could go wrong huh.
>3 years and more than 10 mils white people deaths later.
>REE THEY HAD MORE NUMBERS.
The fuck is wrong with krauts.

>We have only to kick in the door and the whole rotten structure will come crashing down

Hitler's speeches are also relevant today.
youtube.com/watch?v=kzIRG525l6s

>have 96 year old grandfather
>was stationed at the Coolsingel checkpoint in Rotterdam, next to the town hall, during the bombardment on May 14, 1940
>later that day one of his soldier friends got shot in the face for not obeying German occupiers fast enough
>went home after the Netherlands surrendered
>fast forward to 1941
>since half of the German male population was enlisted, new workers were needed
>Arbeitseinsatz was started, either you work in Germany or get arrested and fined
>thus he moved to Germany, along with most able-bodied young men of his town
>guy saw Berlin pre-destruction because he worked as a welder near the city (in a town called Eberswalde) for 3 years
>always mentions how polite everybody was, and how his employer always treated him with respect
>also saw Berlin's destruction, and the Soviet rape wave that occurred in '45
>finally manages to get home more than 3 months later
>meets grandma, creates a happy family
>fast forward to now
>hates how the city he was stationed in in 1940 is now 70% non-white
>was already talking in the early 70s how the guest worker experiment was going to go destroy us eventually
>everybody in my family just ostracized him, and still do to an extent
>I'm the only one who still regularly talks about these things with him

>tfw after witnessing Soviets and post-war societal developments he regrets supporting the 'right' side
>tfw even admitting this breaks him because he feels he's betraying all the people he lost during those years

To be fair Stalin was 2 weeks away from declaring war on Hitler.

He was preparing entirely offensive positions, parked like 9/10 of his air-force on the frontlines and was nearly done setting up to steamroll forwards and since the allies weren't moving in the west was going to push all through Europe.

The reason hitlers attack was so devastating was because the Russians were caught on the defensive wehn they literally planned only for offensive behaviors and had no defensive positions to fall to. Also Stalin cramming hte air force to the front lines meant they lost a shit ton of planes during airfield bombings.

The russians had fighting spirit. But the US lend-lease literally rebuilt your armor and aircraft because hitler thrashed it good during the first bit of the attack.

>Poland started slaughtering German civilians and didn't want to stop
Except that this never happened, and is a nazi revisionist history by Hans Schadewaldt noted a year after the alleged massacres occurred

Other than shitty neo-nazi websites adding additional claims to this massacre from their ass, Hans's is the only source on this
Otherwise, there was an actual documented massacre of 400 German civilians in Poland, but that was after Germany invaded Poland

Oh, yeah, he also lost WWII, killed himself while millions of Loki Germans were liberated, and had Germany become Turko-Syria 2.0

Had he not invaded Poland he'd have literally done nothing wrong though, as he wouldn't have put his utopia at stake

But the rage filled autistic meth addict did, and ruined his country and you faggots still praise him

>inb4 durr ur a jew for hurting muh feels :'(

Where does it say two weeks?

Hey (((Nationalist View))), give me your paypal and I will wire you $1000 if you show me a picture of your face and birth certificate. Willing to negotiate up to $10,000, as I have a feeling when I get a look at you, you'll be one of those negotiating types.

Also: youtube.com/watch?v=QlBA2zp992c

Its typically recognized he was preparing within the next few months but this particular article argues it was two weeks and goes into detail on how Stalin was preparing.

heretical.com/miscella/14days.html

>Churchill: Hitler, do not invade Poland. We have a defense pact with them and we will absolutely retaliate if you do. We have had it up to here with German wars. We are absolutely not going to remain neutral if you invade Poland.

>Hitler invades Poland

>Hitler: hurp durp why you fight us?!? We offered you peace guise! Couldn't you just stay there while Germany expands and conquers the rest of Europe? Nothing bad will happen, I swear. Hold on I got to invade Russia who I had previously signed a defense pact with.

>invade Poland and start WW2

>we have to defend our lives from the foreign invaders

This is hilarious.

Fake

You do know Moscow was not that critical, right? I'd take less southern industrial and agricultural areas lost over control of capital any day.

Hell, beleiving that capturing Moscow = winning war was what defeated Napoleon.

Always believe the opposite of what Jews say.
If they say to look away, do the opposite.

just look at the names of the camps on that first list (like auschwitz)

And you can't prove any of it.

>Russia invaded more countries for their own benefit than Germany did

They did so with Hitler's permission and prior knowledge, it was called Molotov-Ribbentrop. Now if that single point of yours is easily proven to be wrong factually, how much else could you be wrong about?

>The jews started WWII and pushed this propaganda just so they could get Israel
Hitler gave the Jews their "Promised Land" of Israel, something even Moses himself couldn't do.

You'd think the bastards could at least send him a thank you card.

thezog.info/who-controls-donald-trump/

youtube.com/watch?v=TvI_TLZ6Wuc

youtube.com/watch?v=ktX4viox8zY

youtube.com/watch?v=ndRj2NtsmvM

youtube.com/watch?v=RymaodaYc0E

youtube.com/watch?v=cja6N-KGYPY

youtube.com/watch?v=xUQv3iv9fqk

thezog.info/list-summaries/

The more you know!

Objectively false, the Soviets had been ordered to construct a defensive line, not an offensive position en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Molotov_Line

The attack was so devestating because despite being on the defensive, the Red Army was literally a total shambles not capable of fighting a war with Germany at the time. Stalin literally issued an order that soldiers shouldn't shoot back at the Germans incase it "provoked" them, because he knew they were completely fugged unless they could stall a war until the mid-1940s.

The USSR survived 1941 with a minor amount of lend-lease compared to later years.

youtube.com/watch?v=ZdCNGkZoIZw

>daily reminder..never trust a jew or a muslim..Amen.

>Irish intellectuals

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All of the claims you make are wrong though..

I feel you to an extent. My great grandmother was the same. But, I was still a kid when she died in 99. Didn't get to have those amazing talks. But she was very inspiring and, looking back, redpilled as fuck. At least my grandmother carried on these traits and I can talk with her today.

Now all that I have from my great grandmother is a typed out copy of her father's diary (german and english translation, thanks ggma). Not much about specific time period events in there, but his insight was just as redpilled as I'd imagined beforehand. Makes me wish I knew him as well.

[spoiler]Plus he was a semi-traveling pastor and made a surprisingly good amount of money which was interesting as fuck to dig into[/spoiler]

>When Nazi Germany attacked the Soviet Union on June 22, 1941 during the course of Operation Barbarossa, most of the line was not yet finished

>Most of the line wasn't finished.

I wonder where those resources went into..... a shit ton of offensive arms perhaps? Read here

also tfw you forget about spoilers

literaly murdering thousands of germans? sounds like a good reason to me.

>Grandma grew up under mussolini
>Said the italians didn't really like how he was atheist, but otherwise he basically fixed up the country quite well.
>Told me Mussolini wasn't the best guy in the world, but was the best Italian at the time except for maybe the pope
>Said all the "partisans" who overthrew and killed him were american backed literal communists and that she was forced to learn that they were "freedom fighters" in school, back when they used to beat kids who didn't obey.

red pilled me that day.

>hitler did nothing wrong
but he lost the fucking war you stupid potatonigger

We're on the winning side of History.

Which by our own measure, by the very quotes we are taught in our own academic institutions, puts us on the distorted side of history.

To quote a favorite song of mine:

>Fundamental facts have been changed and changed again.
>By the [censored] and we keep their lie alive.

Any undistorted strategic projections suggested that his downfall was inevitable from the very get-go.

That Germany held out as long as they did is a testament to the will of the German people. They were so helplessly out gunned that by the time the Allies had reached Berlin there was only children left to fight for Germany.

I was just reading this acct along with Odessa and the hostages trial.

I noticed two very interesting things.
1. Every time the material underwent another degree of separation the numbers grew.
2. These "debunkings" touted around are all from the 70s which struck me as odd until reading when the German officers died in list form (as is in the hostages trial article).

None of this is to be misconstrued as an argument because I'm sure it's just a coincidence that these "facts" were "debunked" soon after those who could testify to them died.

The first official numbers for the entire period of Odessa's occupation had deaths rendered:
>The official report on the Romanian role in the Holocaust states that in the city of Odessa from October 18, 1941 until mid-March 1942, the Romanian military, aided by local authorities, murdered up to 25,000 Jews and deported over 35,000

A few lines down and we see
>The Jewish Virtual Library cites figures of 34,000 Jews murdered during October 22–25, and the US Holocaust Museum concludes that "Romanian and German forces killed almost 100,000 Jews in Odessa during the occupation of the city."

every degree of separation coincidentally increases the severity of the atrocity...

>I wonder where those resources went into..... a shit ton of offensive arms perhaps? Read here

Not an argument. The line was unfinished because that kind of thing took years to prepare, the previous defensive line deeper in Soviet territory, the Stalin Line, was also unfinished. The German Atlantic wall was unfinished but it doesn't mean that they were preparing an invasion of Britain in 1944/1945 or something similar.

>Paul Ballard
>a literally who

Not a historian, a scholar, a teacher, or anybody. Link me something well sourced and documented instead of some revisionist nonsense.

But i'll throw you one thing because why not.

>Stalin had 1 million paratroopers

No he didn't. He had 3 million troops on the eastern front in 1941 and you mean to tell me 1/3rd were paratroopers? There's no source for whatsoever m8. Pls read something in the future instead of spouting nonsense.

not even dead...
starving and cold perhaps, but these ones are alive

fap material
did you notice the fat slut being carried by two of em in ?

I'd hit it if she lost a few kilos

It is a picture of the moral acrobatics of war.

This is what a siege does. People starve. People fall ill. The enemy has no choice but to direct all of it's available resources to the army.

What they never seem to show is pictures of the German Civilians at the time. Non combat civilians looked very much the same.

>top right corner
>Memelland

>Thinking he can invade other nations without Britain trying to restore the status quo

Hm

>BRD GmbH
>Any right to sign shit

Pick ONE

It's true, we're the only legitimate heir of the galaxy.

>Poland started slaughtering German civilians and didn't want to stop

>3 sept.
Fuckign retarded burger you deserved googles

He's almost correct.

The Czechs were slaughtering German civilians in territory that was given to the Polish by the treaty of Versailles and the Polish were refusing to either A. Stop it, or B. allow Germany access to the territory to stop it themselves.

This lead to a back and forth of aggression between Poland and Germany which eventually boiled over into the annexation of Poland.

>Believing anything at face value from the guy who's job description is propaganda

yeah that sounds like something a "Redpilled" deep thinking and intelligent person would do.

Logical thinking is for jews

Go read about how BTFO the Germans were at Kursk, it's not just numbers. They effectively deployed in depth and played to their strengths.

Though it helped that many of the German commanders were actual retards and did stupid shit like refuse to commit their armor and just let them get picked off one at a time.

>Reichsbürger Aluhut
Die BRD ist der rechtliche Nachfolger des deutschen Reiches

>Generation Z
>awakening. they are red pilled and ready

lmao gen z is the most indoctrinated and narcissistic generation yet, besides the pussy generation. You're delusional as hell m8. Those fucks are too busy following the newest trend to take the redpill/ironpill or whatever other pill exists.

>Did nothing wrong
>Was a muslim

>first quote is in reference to their fighting spirit and devotion, opposed to france's weakness and surrender
>2nd quote is again in reference to their devotion, how christians are happy just living life but mudslimes want to fight for what they believe in
>3rd quote he was speaking hypothetically, and then again referenced their tendency to strive for victory

0/10 didnt even make me think

ITT retards debating something so easily debunked my grannie could do it if she had hilberg's collection of lies on the shelf.

He was a left wing socialist like Bernie

>hitler din do nuffin!
>attacked white people
>pro gun control
>pro nationalized healthcare
>anti free speech

ISHYGDDT

It's like Cred Forums is still a bunch of 17 year old edge lords

>The Russians were more than the zerg rush hordes memers give them credit for.
no lol russians only won because they zerg rushed with the help of winter and american supplies. also japan didn't attack them in the east which helped