Are soldiers really leftwing? I meet a serving infantryman today and he pretty much spent the whole time complaining that arts and theater in nz is underfunded by the nz goverment. Are these really the rightwing patriots that Cred Forums makes them out to be?
Are soldiers really leftwing...
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most people I met were there because it's the only way they could ever dream of making $70k/yr + benefits
Makes sense when you think about it. All military people are "gibs me dat" when it comes to benefits, why wouldn't they when it comes to other shit?
not the ones I know but I live in Texas... I was always under the impression they are generally pretty conservative with a few libs mixed in but nothing too extreme either way
Depends on your MO.
If you think someone in a combat position is a libtard, you're a fool.
The chairforce/navy want liberals so they can run drills all day and get paid to do it
A fucking flightless bird
You talked to ONE person.
How meny have you meet?
lol no
former infantry here
def conservative as fuck
you're fooling yourself if you think otherwise
I'm talking about the real army not new zealand sheepherders or cananadian mounties or whatever
There are no "left-wing" solders. Liberals are too weak to be in the military.
I'm us army and I'm right wing as fuck. Only some are, and they're Mexican or pussies
In America most of them didnt care about politics until recently.
A bunch of people around me, mostly Hispanic, all started a "fuck trump" trend. An officer leading PT even had us doing a "fuck trump" cadence while we ran 7 miles a few weeks ago. He was Mexican though.
I'm a "poo in loo", so my support of trump really doesn't carry too much weight, and nobody shits on me for it. A few black guys and white guys support him too, but they're too afraid of saying it.
Most simply don't care.
>US Army
like people in the age bracket they are apolitical retards, who are usually under 23 & don't even vote. the muh patriotism and muh service comes later in life as most people inside the service joke about it
some grow out of it. some don't
ironically, national guardsmen, who only serve part-time in the states, are the most in your face about it
>Are soldiers really leftwing?
Where the fuck did you get that idea? No, generally soldiers are considerably further to the right than civilian population.
Look mate, what you need to get through your head is that dance and theatre are an intrinsic part of manliness and hard men know this instinctively.
Years of chronic underfunding have left things like the shakespeare group and riverdance clubs so short of cash that returning troops have nowhere to properly rehearse and struggle to afford time in concert halls to dance for the public (who these days just aren't interested in live performances anymore, thanks to the internet).
I know a lot of returning troops that just sit about drinking these days, and they've practically given up all together. If you care about their welfare, you'll lobby your local MP to get some money back into the arts and get these guys some tap shoes and a good hall to put on shows in.
I always would have thought soldiers would care because POTUS could lead us into a war or something depending on who it is. I guess after having endless war basically no matter who's elected they may not care so much though
Soldiers are glorified murderers and hitmen doing the dirty work for the leaders instead of maintaining good values.
Not in particular. But there are always lefty scum looking for the ultimate welfare-queendom that take non-combat posts, most of them women.
Why is complaining about arts and theater intrinsically left wing.
Seems like you've got a pretty simplistic idea of what it means to be right or left wing
Nz Infantryman does not equal U.S Marine. Sounds like this bloke is nostalgic for the Helen Clark days.
what are the chances of getting stationed in south korea?
>Are soldiers really leftwing?
No. People in the DF generally vote right because the last Labour government fucked the military over. Lots of brown people in the military means there are a significant amount that vote for gibs, like their parents.
>he pretty much spent the whole time complaining that arts and theater in nz is underfunded
Lol, was he an officer? They're like that.
Some are some are not.
Most are a complex mix of left and right values. Successful armed forces are ones that steal good ideas from anywhere they can find them. That is generally reflected in it's members. A good idea is a good idea no matter who came up with it.
In my own experience, not really, but it's surprising how many you meet. Honestly, I'm surprised that system doesn't turn out more socialists.
Talking about gibs for art seems kinda left wing to me.
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The infantry is very conservative.
I told my Master Sergeant that I was voting for Ron Paul four years ago and he called me a liberal.
There was a concerted effort to bring more University educated individuals in for administration roles.
Most of them are Marxists. Very few members of the defense forces are combat arms.
There is no difference between the Australian Defense Force and the Australian Broadcasting Corporation. They are essentially kindergartens for highly educated people who failed to achieve acceptance in to the private sector and now rely on government assistance. They are mostly cultural marxists and anti-nationalist.
>tfw my bro is an Intel Officer and he is weary of Trump but HATES Hillary for obvious reasons
lol a story he told me
>gets into SCIF
>everything is cool
>some dumbass decides to charge his iPod on computer
>fucking put on leave
>massive fucking punishment
>massive butthurt
>removal of MOS
For charging iPod
LOL Hillary.
Soldiers are generally huge pussies that lazily take the job that's easiest to get, aka enlisting.
Marines vote for whoever is most likely to get them deployed. Peace-time marine life is hell.
>new zealand
>infantryman
>relevant
spoken like a fellow 03
My youngest brother is in the military, he's going to be an ammunition expert and is already training for his helicopter certification. He'd also be considered a millennial (born 1998) and he fucking loves the theater/musicals/drama/arts.
He said there are actually a lot of them signing up for service recently. They join, serve their country, and go to college for the performing arts as well
Like axe wounds
I was 11B, and have worked for G4S and Custer Battles.
There are extreme leftists (niggers and spics) in the military and other security companies or PMC as civies know them.
Obama and Soros have won hearts and minds.
Still a lot of based people in the military overall, but i know for a fact the extreme nigs and spics are out there.
So if I'm getting this straight - Marines prefer being in combat than whatever they have to do if they aren't at war?
0621 Bravo Zulu here. Sucked a lot of dicks. Fuck Hillary
>arts and theater in nz is underfunded by the nz goverment
He's right, though. Name a single successful culture where the arts were not supported by government or nobility.
armyfag here. they are few and far between but do exist. talked to some Bernie cuck just yesterday...
>He's right, though. Name a single successful culture where the arts were not supported by government or nobility.
That's a matter of degree and I can also name pages of failed cultures that supported arts by the government.
Might need to think about that argument a bit more.
Peacetime marine corps is bullshit appearance crap. Inspections. Parades. SHARP briefings. worthless bullshit that'll do nothing to keep you alive in an engagement.
When there's a war going on, the culture shifts back to training for things that are actually useful (like, you know, fighting the enemy)
No because my argument is the same one every civilization that respected the arts had -- the spirit must be nourished along with the body and mind. Funny thing is, you are unable to name a successful civilization that didn't prop up the arts.
Unless you have an Intel MOS and are Stationed in the Pacific.
:^)
How is Boot Life friend?
Hey now, I've got a couple friends in the army, that shit's real enough.
They're conservative, and sharp as fucking nails the two of them.
i was in us marine corps
i would fucking love to join canadian military u guys r so overpayed
and its canadian so it would be super fucking easy
>tap shoes
how about a stage adaptation of Camp of the Saints?
Well, I don't have a dick in my mouth right now, so better than yours.
>No because my argument is the same one every civilization that respected the arts had -- the spirit must be nourished along with the body and mind. Funny thing is, you are unable to name a successful civilization that didn't prop up the arts.
Name me civilizations that had zero support for any arts.
LOOOOLL
Loser.
My foot is in YOUR DICK
Not even your mouth, your DICK
>you will never go through The Quigley
>overpayed
hoo-rah
>New Zealand Army
>Hasn't fought a single war since WWII
The reason that US soldiers become redpilled is because they've been sent to some of the most backward, god-forsaken shitholes in the world.
In Iraq and Afghanistan for example, soldiers have seen the horrendous conditions these stupid, inbred people live in and the barbaric traditions and faiths they adhere to. Not too long ago some GI got court-martialed for beating the living shit out of an Iraqi Security Forces officer after the Iraqi openly bragged about raping boys in his spare time.
New Zealandian soldiers just sit around and do exercises for a war they'll probably never even be involved in. Most of the rare left-wing faggot soldiers are not combat vets and spend most time in offices or somewhere behind the lines and have never seen how subhuman these people are. Sort of like the limousine liberals who have lofty ideas of the equality of all people while they live in a gated white community. This is the entire New Zealand army.
son, don't ever behave the way you are. Your faggotry disappoints Father Mattis. Can you really bear the knowledge of knowing that Father Mattis is unhappy with you?
Arts and theater is just a reflection of whatever the culture of the time and place is; not inherently left wing. Fascism in Europe was pro-arts as fuck.
I don't have much real contact with active military, but I can imagine how it'd feel to spend all day at boot camp only to go online and night and have some pampered college girl tell you about white man privilege.
>calls us murders
>like its a bad thing
sand niggers need to be murdered
fuck dune coons
easiest job to get would be call center
nice try tho
its its not combat its all fuck fuck games and grabbing a nickle and a dime to make sure your ribbons are 1/8 of an inch above the pocket
they LITERALLY nickle and dime you
in a different way
fucking radio
i swear u fucking cunts don't start doing inventory until the day is over and we are supposed to leave
i had to stay late and help u fucktards so many times
He might be. but I am drunk. So you know what? fuck you man. I love you, but Esprit De Corps, fuck you. Just trying to get captain and buzz out.
say that to my face fucker not online and see what happens
nice beard fucking shit bag
why the fuck dont you even pretend to be a professional military force?
u cant even pretend to have grooming regulations?
just copy paste p1020.34g u dont even have to make up ur own shit
ur welcome faggot
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>Triggered kiwi fag
Topkek. What're you gonna do? Do a faggot haka war dance at me? Go back down to the South Island and fuck some sheep bitch boy.