Imagine the republican party would field a real nominee like McCain instead of Trump. He'd beat Hillary by 20% is my guess. Most of what keeps Hillary ahead is the distrust for Trump. It's like "hey even if she drops dead, her vice president is gonna take over. Still better than Trump". Not even lolbertarians are trusting the guy. He's a walking meme with no substance and flip flops around more than a hummingbird. If he wasnt around, this would be the easiest election for the republican party since the reagon days. Coincidence?
Imagine the republican party would field a real nominee like McCain instead of Trump...
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Joseph Reyes
0/10, just poorly thought out and not very well executed. You can do better.
Angel Butler
hello hillary
Landon Reyes
imagine if Americans were actual human beings capable of normal social behaviour and a more complexe political system than a 2 party shitfest.
Imagine if Americans were actual human beings and not savage, spastic cuck bois.
Benjamin Lee
The media is overwhelmingly with the Dems, they will make any Republican sound like a fool with soundbites, edited clips, and outright lies. Remember how they treated Romney? "Binders full of women." McCain was used to having friendly media around him all the time, that's why he got BTFO so hard in 2008 because he treated them like friends while they treated him like an enemy combatant.
If Jeb! had been nominated the media would have chipped away at him every day while he refused to respond, "taking the high road," and eventually Hillary would beat him by 6-7 points.
Liam Edwards
why do you still believe in the left media conspiracy. Bush won 2 times "against" it and he wasnt exactly the brightest lightbulb. McCain is just an example of the type of nominee that would completely wipe Hillary away.
Andrew Diaz
>imagine if Americans were actual human beings capable of normal social behaviour and a more complex political system
Like Germany? hows that working?
Nathan Ortiz
Hmmm, but 1% is good enough.
Benjamin Rivera
There's not any real difference between McCain and Hillary so voting would be pointless.
This is why she was scripted to go against Yeb
Ryder Harris
we're working on correcting our mistake
Carson Mitchell
>John McCuck
No thanks he's already a loser
Anthony Ward
Fox news has the highest ratings by far and it's essentially the Republican News Network: Letting you know all Dems are bad.
Luis Sanders
Why would they field a traitor who hangs out with terrorists
Ian Hernandez
Trump is really the only way the GOP would win this election.
No one is enthusiastic for some neocon establishment cuck like McCain or Romney. Neither of them have the appeal to democrat voter blocs like Trump does.
Justin Bell
McCain wouldn't last 10 seconds against the Clinton smear machine. They'd still be calling him racist, sexist, etc. every chance they get.
Blake Parker
Hillary Clinton is the most defeatable democratic nominee in 30+ years and trump is still losing.
>inb4 Cred Forums actually thinks he is winning when states that have been red for two decades are on the table
Matthew Myers
McCain was an awful nominee, he was old and crotchety and that really showed in the debates against Obama. If we had fielded Paul Ryan or Marco Rubio, Hillary would've been losing by ten points by now.
Lincoln Howard
I think establishment types don't care who gets in. It's just a pissing contest who gets the "big seat" since all other goals of globalism are mutual and they work together for that goal.
It's just when an outsider comes along they shoot to kill. Can't believe how many , metaphorically speaking, bullets Trump has dodged.
Bentley Ward
Is right beside Hillary on the Saudi payroll
I hope this old retard croaks soon
Lincoln Reyes
It's the other way around. Trump will flip blue states. The riots in NC also ensure it will go solid red.
Jonathan Rodriguez
Then we get another cuckservative trying to force "common sense immigration reform" (see Amnesty) down the throats of their white working class base.
This is a last stand election.
William Richardson
Nah, McCain would get destroyed by Hillary. McCain wouldn't get above 5% minority vote. This would of applied to any other Republican candidate besides Trump. Trump is not bought and controlled by (((them))). That is why he is tied in Michigan, and has a shot at Penn.
Gavin Scott
No she is not. Never have all of the media, the ruling politicians class and the financial elite have shilled for anyone that hard and that viciously in the USA. The pressure on the voters is North Korea tier.
Jackson Perez
He wouldn't accomplish shit, just like Bush didn't accomplish shit.
Elijah Murphy
I'd never vote for McCain and I know plenty of other people who wouldn't either.
Ian Watson
Bring dich um. Du bist eine Schande für Deutschland und die gesamte weiße Welt.
Charles Anderson
It's fact, not conspiracy. Post 2008 crisis, journalism got decimated and half have lost their jobs. Only those with *connections* get in now.
Carson Barnes
I agree, I just chose McCain as an example of the type of nominee that would be better than Trump. McCain didnt stand a chance against Obama because he was clearly the wrong one against the type of campaign and the type of nominee Obama was. Against Hillary, a young, dependable nominee would be best. The republican party has not fielded such a candidate since basically Reagan.
Henry Thomas
>Reagan
>young
wew lad
Aaron Nelson
Go back to play a video game, kid. You're behaving like an antifa protester. Let the grown ups talk.
Zachary Scott
Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
Isaac Torres
yeh, Reagan was old but he was behaving young and energetic, while being dependable and intelligent, which is what counts. Hence the "basically"
Benjamin Adams
>he was behaving young and energetic
Hmm that sounds familiar.
>inb4 Trump is dumb meme
Cooper Hall
>the ive been following US elections for 6 months foreigner post
Christian James
the problem with Trump is that he is not dependable and he does not carry much trust outside of his diehard fans. People dont trust the guy and he's seen as being reliable by those that usually decide the election: the independents in the middle.
Gavin Walker
Would McCain get working class whites to get out and vote? Romney lost because white people in states like Ohio, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin and Minnesota thought of him as just another Establishment shill. McCain is even worse.
Trump can get these people to vote. And this is literally the last election where massive white turnout can elect a President. If Hillary wins, she will import so many Hispanics, Asians, Indians and Muslims that states like North Carolina, Georgia and even Texas will turn permanently blue.
Xavier Gutierrez
He's consistently seen as more trustworthy than Clinton which is all that matters.
Jordan Hughes
I'd like a source for that.
Juan Murphy
non white detected
Jason Allen
>projecting this much
Andrew Lopez
McCain would demobilize most of the non white vote while Trump is mobilizing it for Hillary. Which is what keeps her afloat. Romney and McCain lost because Obama was exactly that: seemingly antiestablishment and both being old white dudes with good connections. In this election however, Hillary is even worse on that front so a candidate like McCain would have no problem there. The working class white would vote for him on a basis of "not Hillary".
Carter Ward
Check pages 29 and 33. Clinton has a 28% honesty rating while Trump has a 30% rating. It's not a huge difference, but Trump usually has a slight edge in that. People don't trust clinton at all.
Noah Russell
He's a cuckservative that would generate zero enthusiasm. There's a reason why hillary praised republicans like him and romney. She wants to run against a loser
Mason Hernandez
hey, you're the one coming in like that when im trying to have a serious discussion on why the republicans arent winning the election in a landslide like they could.
what pages?
Justin Sanchez
Trump is doing better with blacks than any other Republican candidate in decades. His whole flamboyant persona is very attractive for black people somehow.
I believe he could do better to mobilize Indians too. A lot of Democratic-voting Indians in America are Hindu nationalists who would vote for Modi back home.
Carter Diaz
Xavier Lewis
You're wrong.
No matter who was running, they would've been painted as literal Hitler, even if they were the obvious insider choice. Jeb Bush himself would now be being painted as a right wing fascist, and he would be too much of a cuck to even fight back. Hillary would be beating any conventional Republican by record amounts at this point.
Eli Kelly
>cucked yuros obsessing over American politics again
it appears my superiority has lead to some controversy
Jack Brown
McCain is a loser. He knows jack shit about winning elections.
Chase Lopez
Oh look, a 92 year old warmonger!
*stays at home, doesn't vote*
Go home Ahmed
Landon Hall
Sry, when you can complain about Merkel (not that I want to defend that thing), I can discuss american politics.
A nice source. Take a look at the "qualified" ratings. Thats where the loss is. People dont trust his ability to be a president.
Im not talking about him being the nominee in this election cycle, im talking about the type of candidate he was when he ran in 2008. Not ideal but much better than Trump to win an election.
Henry Powell
We were talking about trust. Qualifications is an entirely separate issue.
Eli Rogers
People dont trust Hillary, but they think she'd be better qualified for the job. Not ideal but much better than trusting Trump a tiny bit more but not believing him to be qualified at all. They dont put much faith in him being able to do a good job, while with Hillary, they atleast know she wont fuck up too much even when they dont trust her. We're on an unprecedentedly low standard here, usually the candidates are much much better. But this time, meme magic and feminism have been the deciding factor in the nomination process, the democrats think it's time for a female president, regardless of how good she is as a candidate. It's like "last time we got the first black president, this time we have to have a first something as well to show how tolerant and progressive we are".
With the republicans, it's idiocracy time, the candidate who's putting up the best show and the best HAPPENING wins. Too bad in the general election, the HAPPENING style wears out and most people stop to think at some point and realize that just a good show is not enough for being president.
Alexander Lopez
Honestly the memes would be too bland and boring.
Jayden Long
Thank you for correcting the record.