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Alright grandpa
Thanks, I heard this exact song in Wawa yesterday and I was wondering what it was called.
When somebody has forgot more than you know. You might wanna pay attention son
>When somebody has forgot more than you know
Dementia isn't something to be proud of, gramps.
You don't know a goddamn thing about how the world works. You probably should just shut your whore mouth. I want to speak to adults here.
That's a lot of implying you're doing there, newfag.
I fucking hate Autists like you. Just let it go faggot. Maybe next time you won't get BTFO.0
still the best dance song ever
It's too bad MTV took a colossal shit. Watching old videos like that really takes me back. I was 5 in 83 so I don't remember this one but I remember every Michael Jackson video there was. Headbangers ball was the shit.
Don't mind the young little effeminate newmale faggots. They don't know how to act in the presence of real men.
80's women were fucking magical creatures
The girl of my 12 year old dreams
damn right
I was 8 years old in 1983. I remember thinking the 1984 Los Angeles olympics were great.
Then Rap music.... hip hop drugs aids governments niggers pakis aids paedophiles recessions unemployment divorce and now im 41 and thats my life story
takes me back. still a good song till this day
That's not what oldfag means
while we're on the subject of my imaginary girlfriend, she's going to be playing in America for the first time at the end of this month and the beginning of Oct
that's sad user
And the saddest thing is that UK doesn't have any good rock bands anymore
Fuck off old bag. Get with the times go out and suck a big cock.
The UK used to have really good bands
A time when MTV actually played music and was cool. Remember the video of Rockwell Somebody's Watching Me as kid too, brings back memories.
I think it's the time when we started replacing sugar with corn syrup and it fucked out brains up user.
Doobs, checked! A lot of the 80s stuff holds its own even today.
I'm glad I don't drop acid anymore
That shit would've scared me for life.
>the one furiously masturbating
I think the 80's generation was the last to really feel the threat of a nuclear war as a reality
AHHH, comfy in here.
I remember they used to play this at the skating rink
fuck leafs I hate them
Oldfag here. I remember this very well. Electric boogie era.
>tfw remember first night MTV as on
>tfw it was just music videos
>tfw our faggiest pop rock was better than most horseshit that comes out nowadays
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I didn't watch anything in 1983 because I was on permanent Grateful Dead tour.
I didn't watch any tv between 1981 and 1990
Another good UK band
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Saw this live during the first Powerslave tour in the states. Copped my first fingerbang after the show.
>member berries ITT
The dead always had a cool vibe.Phish and the others don't seem to do it.
member when david bowie wasn't dead?
member when prince wasn't dead?
member when michael jackson wasn't dead?
I dont think you understand what an oldfag is newfag
>lurk more
I didn't have a TV in 1983 and I was literally working 20 hrs a day almost 7 days a week.
Why?
I'm going to post in this thread anyways.
Do something about it.
>gen x niggers thinking they have any power or control
I know those feels
I know the guy that made those robots AMA
member when marriage was between a man and a woman?
member when we were safe and there was no ISIS?
member when there wasn't so many Mexicans?
Remember Def Leppard? And The Cult? And the Ramones :-( They're almost all dead now. The Ramones, I mean. And Ian Whatever-hi-name-is is fat.
shit
>millenials obsessed with control
Shitty little authoritarian generation, aren't you?
member Chewbacca?
member Bionic Man?
The sweetest release is when you're all in daipers and homes while we continue to fix any semblance of the misguided moral compass you idiots wrought upon the world.
>Grateful Dead tour.
its like anything that tries to reproduce an original.. never as good
Saw this show ...
Jerry Garcia's 40th birthday.. we stopped on the way back from Red Rocks on the '82 Summer Tour and saw this in OKC then caught Starlight Theatre in KC,MO then the Keil Aud in STL.
. I lost one job over this but got hired by the company at another location with a promotion.
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I was on the way to these shows from California when the van dropped its driveshaft in Nevada.
I knew the guy blowing the conch shell @ 5:24
if you're over the age of 25 YOU DON'T BELONG HERE I will personally stick you old fucks in a nursing home staffed by blacks.
THIS IS OUR BOARD
fuckboy will never know the feel of not having to virtue signal just to get laid
CRY HARDER FAGET
haha yeah I member
Whole lot of implication in that post you aging neocon kike shill.
They're really stickin it to the Little Eichmanns
Phish is so much fucking better than the 'Dead. Come at me faggots
Gen X is your friend. It's the Boomers that need to go.
If nobody was over 25 you'd all literally be newfags.
Yeah. We were bashing boomers before it was cool.
Without the Dead there would be no Phish
>if you watched this in 1983
it was in vice city so everyone will remember it
Muh dick
Impossible to say, but there would surely be jazz/rock/fusion jam bands.
>mom and dad suck they wont let me hang out with my friends
Wow real original
fair enough
member when Adolf Hitler played keyboards for Sparks?
Who can forget Blondie guys?
forgetting things is good, thanks for cerrcten di reco!
She was credited with the first rap song, besides being a qt
That's riiiight, Rapture.
>You can only post itt if you watched this in 1983
I was 7yo in '83 and that vid used to scare the fuck out of me
Fuck you guys were listening to some queer shit.
Herbie Hancock? Men at work?
If you weren't banging your head in the 80s you were a faggot.
Fuckin shit, Basquait was in the Rapture video, never knew that, sick shit. Grandmaster Flash didn't show up.
>Jean-Michel Basquiat make cameo appearances. Basquiat was hired when Grandmaster Flash did not show for the filming.
Nope, more like
>you fuckers ruined our shit by giving it away in the 60s
Sound familiar?
Kowabunga dood!
Your makeup is smudged.
This
Who remembers this show?
Watched Herbie play it live on tour. Had those kicking legs all in a row doing their robotic Rockettes thing. Herbie's a good guy.
Can tell you weren't there.
Candy ass poser boys got their asses kicked at true metal shows.
This was the shit!
It was tough to find over here, but you could get video tapes.
Take your hairspray and your power-ballads and fuck off. 80s metal was shite except for a few bright spots here and there.
No one I knew was listening to hair bands.
83?
Sabbath
Ozzy
Motorhead
AC/DC
Saxon
Michael Schenker
Ufo
obligatory
Dude, Ozzy *still* wears makeup.
this didn't play out how you hoped it would did it?
Fucking Motorhead!
I saw them with Slayer, top notch show
He hasn't done anything good since Randy died.
Oldfag checking in
Was in college back in '83. Always hated the bands of the time. What an awful time for music.
Lemmy maintained a based attitude in metal when metal started getting gay till thrash rose up.
Check out "The Decline of Western Civilization, the metal years"
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The 70s were superior to the 80s in every way. Real metal and hardrock. Not that fake glam and hair metal nonsense.
The record companies weren't interested in what young people wanted to hear.
They were looking to sell stuff to boomers still as they were such a huge share of the market.
Radio stations were also leary of playing anything that would be too much for those aging hippies.
That's why punk never got any push from the industry at the time beyond some critics who felt it was time for something new.
Ok, if we're posting mtv favorites,
this is clearly the case.
if you couldn't see Led Zeppelin , The Who with Kieth Moon, The Allman Brothers with Duane, Pink Floyd you literally missed out on the greatest rock and roll music ever.
we knew this with the Dead too even though they still could bring it enough to get you off your ass and dancing they were obviously in their downhill afterglow of the 70's peak.
alas my first concert was seeing The Beach Boys in 1979 I had no older brothers
Well this post started talking about early 80s.
The glam thing didn't really start abusing the airways till mid-late 80s.
And the sad thing is to this day when you mention metal, everyone thinks you're talking about Bon Jovi or poison.
By then we had found Suicidal Tendencies, Exodus, and pre sellout Metallica.
> if you couldn't see
You forgot Lynyrd Skynyrd on that list.
I grew up in Macon; well-acquainted with the Allmans. Capricorn Records was king. Wet Willie was even better.......
>This entire thread
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Quit living in the past, failure.
Id did.. I suppose the Oulaws could make it along with a few other
here's a show I attended I thought was pretty decent as a 19 year old
Yep. My first concerts were at Woodstock when I was a young boy of only 5 years old. Remember bits and pieces of it.. Also saw Zep in' 73 at Madison Square Garden. Were the Beach Boys still decent back in '79?
I always felt Dickey never got the credit when it was really his playing that most people remember when thinking about the Brothers.
Ad nauseam.
I don't even remember if they were all there.. I mean I think they had split up around that time ..it may not have been the full original lineup also it was at the Boston Garden and my set was at the far opposite end of the arena.. I couldn't remember a single note of it to save my life.
>pre sellout Metallica.
Nothing wrong with selling our to get bigger audiences. Metallica's only horrid record is St Anger. Music is still good even if it isn't as heavy as it used to be.
I still drive an AW11, you cannot convince me they've made a better car.
If I had two hundred grand I'd upgrade to the 2017 acura nsx though god damn
Garage days revisited was their last good album
You see any other bands in '79?
This was the best thing since Monty Python, thanks Brits.
Yes the 70s were better but I was talking about the 80s
If you think that Frampton, Steve Miller & Cheap Trick were top 40 pop music back then, which is usally the lowest form of musician, things were good.
I remember when I saw Cream back in 2005 at the Madison Square Garden.
more often than not people I told ;"I saw Cream..." expecting amazed surprise there was instead confused ignorance.. " Cream? What's that?" I remember being just aghast so many people had no idea who Cream were.. sad.
Agreed, that show was aces
I keep forgetting MTV was down in the past, damn shame what it turned into. The googs were singing about herbals even back then amazing.
Musical Youth Pass the Dutchie
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Pass the Kutchie The Mighty Diamonds & Mutabaruka
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Loved that crazy shit back in that day
No.. Grateful Dead was my next concert in March 1981.. this very show
Like I said I had no older siblings and my parents were WWII generation older people too .. I called my father 'Daddio" once when they term was going around in the 60's ..I never called him that again..lol
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I remember thinking the freaks waving their arms around in the halls all looked mentally deranged,lol
>Steve Miller
One of the worse successful musicians of all time. Meaningless lyrics, and subpar guitar work. Makes me wonder how the guy made it into the rock and roll hall.
>You can only post itt if you watched this in 1983
If that's MTV or a music video, I didn't watch it.
However, I was watching some soap opera or some other shit on TV when Walter Cronkite interrupted to announce that President John Kennedy had been shot in Dallas, Texas.
Another song that owes its riff to Chic's "Good Times."
Nile Rodgers talks about how "Good Times" became the beat for "Rapper's Delight."
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40 fag here, wish I was 10 years older,, old enough to really experience the 80s
HA
Sugar replaced Fat by paying for (((studies))) that demonized brain food
>shits on people remembering the past
>posts crusader pic
I'll take Steve Miller over Stevie Ray Vaughn anyday
No offense, I can't so simply trust the sensibilities of kids who grew up comparatively with much much easier lives than what my generation saw.
Sure, there was more technology around for 90s kids but we grew up and grew into adults watching the country slip far far away. You lost howdie doodie and the tech boom made your transition into the world much easier because cash was everwhere and there wasnt 40 years of stagnant wages.
Honestly, I don't know how you can't stand listining to the dead.
And i'm not sure many people know who Clapton is either.
A little harsh.
I could pick out 100 worst successful musicians from the last 5 years.
My Pennsylvania negro!
>if you couldn't see Led Zeppelin , The Who with Kieth Moon, The Allman Brothers with Duane, Pink Floyd you literally missed out on the greatest rock and roll music ever.
Shit tier taste. Absolute Dadcore desu you redditier faggot.
haha fucking redneck
Overtime this came on..Conversation stopped.
We watched. Pretty soon, our lower bodies were making those dog humping movements. GFs pissed, but WTF
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Ok, so your beating off to older Alyssa on Charmed reruns ( Don't Judge Me!), and this version of her gets in your mind. Do you stop or continue?
lol im born in 1983 i dont know what i did watch that year.
improvisation
there are tons of their old live shows they recorded on high end gear online.
stuff like Playin in the band from '72 -'74 where they just stretch out and explore is what I enjoy most but a lot of their stuff is just fun for dancing
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Then you should talk to my step-dad who grew up in the depression, he doesn't understand why anyone's complaining but I did finally get him to understand that Globalism is cancer.
I once went to a Herbie Hancock Jazz concert and some jackass yells out, "Hey, play Rockit!". He stopped and chewed the guy out.
Wish someone went to the trouble of matching their guitar straps.
Really should do something about this OCD issue.
was 15 in 1983
>1:47-1:52
Funny
How many people do you think have actually tried to fuck a mannequin?
I don't know, but confirmed cases are Chris Chan and that serial killer.
Hey, at least you're not upset by how the Strat player's left boob isn't the same size as her right.
10 minutes in. Not that bad
Jeez. Haven't seen this in a while.
what's it like having your best years behind you?
this too
Wawa's in 5 states dumb ass
Wasn't big into music back then but at the time I spent a ton of time at the movies. 83 was good.
>member The Right Stuff
>member when Eddie was still funny and trading places
>member cujo
>member outsiders
living hell or as near to it as I hope it gets.
weak joints, low energy. looks gone , hair gone eyes weak , hearing going. good luck getting a job if you lose whatever one you have and don't have enough to survive never mind retire in anything resembling comfort.
Herbie, way ahead of his time
Fuck if I go check that I'll be disturbed all night.
You'll be there soon Lars. I feel bad for my kids having to grow up with the bullshit that they do now.
Hell to the yes! Lots of us geezers on 4 chan.
Some deep 80s for you.
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Life is still good into your early 40s. Once you reach 50, it's as depressing as it gets.
I can't hear this song without falling into a deep melancholy.
Growing old hurts so fucking bad.
When MTV was still M.
Fuck it was a lot better being young when you could get away with everything.
If everyone was filming everything, and there were computer records avalible at every cops fingertips then I'd still be in jail.
Can someone link Sam Kinison's Wild Thing?
Regan was President, the economy was shit, and I joined the Army after high school.
She wasn't real, but I had a crush on her so hard.
Great considering how free it was, I'd hate to be growing up now.
These feels. My whole childhood group, would have been locked up, or in mental institutions, for the rest of our lives. I'm amazed at some of the stuff kids record themselves doing these days.
The 1980's started with big-haired women, transitioned to big-haired men, and then the whole big hair thing was slayed by Nirvana.
>wtf I really miss the 1980's now
Born in 1976 but I remember this video from the TV, broadcasted a lot.
And now Kek is my god.
Feels good man. Getting better each year. I can't say that much for people much younger than me. I'll kick it just before the oil fails, the world overheats, and the next mass extinction is up on us.
>How does it feel to know you're not going to make it through the bad times ahead?
What are you fuckers crying about?
I'm 51 and it's all good.
Kids are grown so I've got spending money like I haven't had since my 20s.
Quit working for other people cause I'm not worried about job security any more and can finally do what I want for a living.
Not walking around with complete misconceptions about life, the world and what really matters like some idiot kid.
Really dont give a fuck about what anyone else thinks anymore because you realize most people have their heads up thier ass.
Hell I've been run over and got more aches and pains than I'm sure most of you. So what's the problem?
Oh wait, you guys must be married.
Simpler and easier
I'm 52. Never married and never had children.
Thanks, that's great. Even with pink pointy guitars.
We'd all crowd around the TV for a drunken singalong for that.
were you that dude that sold lsd and obama just let out of prison?
for somone who all their life was healthy, strong, fully able and gifted in mnay ways. had unlimted opportunities and success with females when they starts eroding its very difficult.. stress is less sucessful;yy handled.. the tolls it takes leave more damage behind and its clear at a certain point its only going to get worse and worse.
This is a very depressing thing to have to realize .. and the thing is all the time you're drawing on your past experiences which were from your healthy virile youth but your present feedback is all difficulty and an increasing awareness of the progressing debility.
I have great genetics .. only thing is my parents were both much older. dad was 43 and mother was 40 when I was conceived.. research appears to show children of older people who escape any congenital defects have other problems later in life.
I am doing everything I can find to keep healthy but its clearly a losing battle and the losses come faster, sooner and at an increasing cost.
Glad you're not finding your 50's as wearisome as me.
I can't imagine how my dad raised me at this age.. no wonder he drank
Well I'm sorry if that's something you really wanted I can see it'd be depressing I guess.
I never married either so my kids weren't exactly planned.
At least you avoided having a couple of spiteful bitches having you by the balls for 20yrs I guess.
80's techno punk experimental sound so defined the decade
Yello
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Relax
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Remember when toys would grind your knuckles in to the pavement, and you loved it.
no I am not .. I could have been him but I walked his path a few years before mandatory minimums and was just plain lucky
this is him in the middle..
I can't say how many times I sat in that exact spot in Santa Cruz I actually got a ticket for misuse of city property when I was taking off a sweatshirt and put it on a gas pipe just outside of the frame of this image..
If I had known that the 80s was actually a golden age compared to what was to come, I'd have paid more attention at the time.
The toys were more durable than modern vehicles.
I'm sure things are better now, but it sure seemed like shit was funner back then.
Can you get more 80's than this?
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Music and everything were just... happier then?
>get more 80's than this?
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1983 I was listening to this.
Jesus, a London girl now would be wearinf a fucking bin bag
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>Music and everything were just... happier then?
yes, i do believe so.
A thread about old school deserves some Steel Panther. So smart, so funny, so good.
Gloryhole
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Gangbang At The Old Folks' Home
"One foot in the grave, two lips on my bone"
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I'm 6ft, at my peak 220 hard lbs. I was the VP of an outlaw Motorcycle Club and always above average looking.
I can't count the hos, from strippers to shool teachers.
When I said I was run over, there's more to it.
I was a complete lunatic on a motorcycle. I've been run over 3x, the last one was bad, as well as more whipouts and crashes than I can count.
I'm 8 broken bones behind Evel Knievel at this point.
I'm a gimp now, missing several muscles in one leg, and rods and pins holding together my lower body which keeps refracturing bones.
I broke my spine and have back trouble.
I'm certainly not the hottie or badass I once was in other peoples eyes.
I'm in pain now every day. And not taking any pills.
Threw my GF out 2 months ago for being a drunk.
Happiness is in your head and life is what you make of it.
Good days
If I hadn't known ecstasy I couldn't know agony.
I was just answering Vikingbro honestly.
I don't go around moaning to everyone but that's probably becaseu apart from work I pretty much keep to myself..
specific personal problems compound my multiplying physical defects
I want to relocate becasue of noise making this condo toxic and unlivable.. its taken all summer to even get a small kitchen and bathroom floor redone.. I still need carpet done but NH winter is just weeks away and I hoped I;d have my condo on the market and sold by now
my 20 year old BMW probably needs a steering box and as much as I love the thing its one problem after another ..
rely on it for work and the prospect of the expense of having this job done is a major bummer.
I'll get all this stuff done and then hunt for a new situation but its really getting hard dragging myself around lately.
Like I said I'm still kind of at the stage where I have much more recollection of being strong and healthy so the impact of ageing is hard and more obvious...
I haven't gotten used to feeling and thinking of myself as old at all
We should hang out sometime.
>I haven't gotten used to feeling and thinking of myself as old at all
Yeah, that part is hard.
Though all of life's transformations have the same problem: when we enter a new stage of life, all of our previous experience is now no longer a benefit but a hindrance - because it's irrelevant and inappropriate for our new situation.
Well yes a few weeks in and out of a coma not sure if you're alive or dead will change your view of life.
But i really think what keeps me happy now is not worrying about myselfand being concerned with little shit.
Know that whatever happens you'll survive, until you don't, but you won't care at that point.
Another thing that makes me feel good is having a job that I get to help people out.
You feel better at the end of the day when you know you accomplished something besides make some rich douche even richer.
I also got turned on to eastern philosophy which helps have a better understanding of life.
I hope you can pull yourself out of your rut and enjoy what life us old bastards got left.
>I was on permanent Grateful Dead tour
If you haven't already grab a torrent of the 3 "Fare Thee Well" shows from Chicago. Great audio and video quality but most of all so much feeling. I never was a Dead fan (even living in SF!) but even I can appreciate those shows.
Thanks for the pep talk.. If I can make it to some sunny place to live out my days I;ll consider myself fortunate.. been looking around Albuquerque for a while.. but this relates to my concern about starting a new job at 53.. been a self employed couir for the past 20 years and while I may have excellent credit I have nothing saved ..
I'll be lucky to walk away from selling this condo with $50k
and luckier still to get a mortgage having owned my own place the past 15 years I can't wrap my head around renting... just need a n acre of so where its quiet and sunny. so wish me luck
I never liked that fucking teddy bear icon.
Every time I mention I'm 46 some 50 year old shows up. How do I feel special here?
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I saw the Cali shows online and caught the first and third Chicago's at a local Theater the middle one online.. it was actually musically pretty decent I thought and watching it all come to an end was pretty emotional I was overcome desu
pic is from the end of the final show
Trivia: The actual Grateful Dead w/ Jerry played their last show on my birthday..
I was 13...god damn I'm old.
Hey, we're the same age! I was born in June, 1970, was I here first?
Googled couir, you mean courier?
Well lands cheap down south and fla. is full of widowers so there's that I guess.
I hope a change of scenery will straighten out you mood. It should give a different perspective but it you don't fix the demons you've got they have a way of finding you where ever you go.
Seriously try checking out some philosophy books and try thinking about things.
It really helped me out of a pretty dark period.
Old fag here...this is true. When the Day After aired on ABC, the next day at school people were in shock... ABC had an hour long discussion about the possibility after the movie too.
You were, I arrived in Nov.
Dr that delivered me had been Army Dr, just got back from Vietnam, I was the first baby he delivered since being back. My parents said he cried.
Cool. My parents were married at 18, had me at 20, and got divorced at 22, so I didn't hear much about my early years. I didn't have kids until 30. Still married.
You know being on here talking about this shit has made me realize why being old isn't bothering me.
Because I was such a fuckin failure at being middle aged.
I was great at being an adolescent, I was one into my 30s.
My talent at talling bosses and women to fuck off, killed my chances of living the white house picket fence life.
I was never good at being a real grown up.
Now I'm old and don't have to give a shit anymore. In the end it doesn't really matter.
Thanks guys.
that feel. heh, *i* know that feel, too!
_In Pa., boomers see the American Dream slipping away_
For the class of 1976, the future was as bright as their golden gowns.
“The world was ours for the taking,” said Rick Barnett, who was on a track team that won all but one meet. “We just had to go work for it. Most of us had the feeling we could go do anything we wanted if we tried and wanted it bad enough.”
Now many in that class are turning 58 years old
People here are approaching their golden years with a sense of bitterness about the new, unforgiving economy and foreboding about what they will have to show for this life. Something their parents could count on — a comfortable retirement, debt-free and maybe in a warmer place — seems out of the question to many who say they see themselves scratching out a living until they are buried in the cemetery on the hillside near Connoquenessing Creek.
Hey this thread was cool.
Why don't we piss off the kiddies next Saturday and reminis again?
We could do it once a week and talk about movies, or happenings from back in the day.
You might want to put a light veneer of politics on top. Just put up a pic or Reagan or some such.
Anybody remember watching these when they debuted? Theme music was decades ahead of it's time.
>you will never grow up in 80s Britian
Yes good thinking.
Dubs checked BTW
herbie hancock
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Wow that music just brought me back.
My brother was addicted to this show and only having one tv...
lol yea sorry dat shit eyesight again..
the Southeast is way too humid for me.. southern CA or the Southwest looks to suit me best.
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that music sends chills down my spine, always has
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I like it and the derivative works.
Yes, please
People who like Stevie Ray Vaughan must have never heard any of the delta blues guys.
The early 70s were better. Especially on the coast. That's the only time in my life I'd actually want to go back to.
deb is high as fuck in this video
Old and in the way.
G'night fellow oldfags.
the girl of my 45 year old dreams
I was there (when black people could still music). Not even his best stuff...
I Was 7 in 1983, can I still post?
No, you really don't want that, it's always embarrassing when guys in their forties try to act like they're in their twenties
Since you will be one of us someday I hope you figure that out
i remember an interview about the 99 balloons video, some of the band members were scared and crying, much like the reporter that fired a rifle and got ptsd
I think I do remember reading something about them
i remember the first time i heard that song, knew it would be a hit right away.
too bad our current leadership is trying to put the iron curtain back up
I had the Pleasure of getting to work with Garcia in a few different capacities. I lit a stage for the first incarnation of NRPS with Garcia on Pedal Steel and Lesh on Bass. I helped cater a few Dead Shows Back East (Dressing Room "Trays n' Beer" Stocker). I also got to see him with Merle Saunders, Tom Fogarty, John Kahn, Ron Tutt and Maria Muladar @ Keystone Central. Shook The Hand and said: "Thanks, Man." We chatted at the bar for a bit and one of my Buddies asked: "Hey, why don't the Dead come to San Diego anymore?" Jerry chuckled and said: "Aw, Fuck, Man. You got the Navy and Marine Corps. What do you need the Grateful Dead for?" Classic Jerry.